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Canesluver
12-06-2009, 09:27 AM
So... can the boys build off of Saturday's win?

Probably not... but one can always hope!! :lol:

Puck-drop at 7:30PM

LET'S GO 'CANES!!

livinthedream
12-06-2009, 10:23 AM
Bryan Rodney's been sent back to Albany and Jay Harrison's on his way up (http://hurricanes.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=508874).

Hurricanes Recall Jay Harrison from Albany
Defenseman Bryan Rodney reassigned to AHL’s River Rats
Sunday, 12.06.2009 / 10:15 AM / News By Ken Preston

RALEIGH, NC—Jim Rutherford, President and General Manager of the National Hockey League’s Carolina Hurricanes, today announced that the team has recalled defenseman Jay Harrison from the Albany River Rats of the American Hockey League. Rutherford also announced that defenseman Bryan Rodney, who was most recently recalled to Carolina on Dec. 3, has been reassigned to Albany.

Harrison, 27, played in 10 of Carolina’s first 13 games of 2009-10, before being assigned to Albany on Nov. 3. In his time with Carolina, Harrison scored a goal, earned two assists (3 points) and totaled 27 penalty minutes, while averaging 12:05 of ice time per game. The Oshawa, Ont., native has earned eight points (1g, 7a) and a plus-4 plus/minus rating in 15 AHL games since joining the River Rats. The Hurricanes signed Harrison (6’4”, 211 lbs.) as a free agent on July 9, 2009. He was originally drafted by the Toronto Maple Leafs in the third round, 82nd overall, in the 2001 NHL Entry Draft.

livinthedream
12-06-2009, 02:40 PM
Two things...

1) The road trip has officially begun...

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA7034

2) Before they headed out there was a pretty full crew at practice today. Chip was back in the building. For those who don't get his tweets, the only players missing today were Ray, Chad, and Nic Wallin (who left the game early in the third period, anyone know why?). All three goalies were there. Jussi was back. Harrison was not there, he'll join the team on the trip.

And just to prove a previous statement where I said it was not that hard to take a decent picture to post on twitter, even a seven-year-old could do it...

lgc_com: today's twitpic... guest photographer ltd jr. captures the team at practice before heading out to PGH

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2529/4163949308_75e170750d.jpg

KaniacFever
12-06-2009, 04:04 PM
Can all guys dressed in white/red please leave the arena in one piece. That's really my only request at this time. I hate playing in Pittsburgh.

nickgregory
12-06-2009, 04:49 PM
going to be at the this one in person...hopefully the Canes can at least make it interesting...

livinthedream
12-06-2009, 06:16 PM
On tonight's Rats broadcast it was mentioned that Brett Carson has been called up (Nic?). Haven't seen anything official though.

SoCalcaniac
12-06-2009, 06:42 PM
Woo- I do hope Carson is coming up!

LTD, I'm getting ready to look it up- (or if puck_it comes on he'll probably be able to answer) but I'll bet they have "called up" Carson for this whole Nicky Wallin injury/situation, I'm thinking, the "announcement" hasn't happened based on the daily deadline on call-ups and the whole NHL pay vs AHL pay. I seem to recall last season, the Flames had a horrendous issue with the Cap (those couple games where they could only dress 18 guys because of $$$) and the discussion on the intermission report on TSN was that if you call a guy up on an "off day" non game day, you're still paying at the NHL salary, to save $ you can call him up on game day, and pay him for the 'game'. Then there's deadlines Noon, 5pm etc. that all play into the call up dealio too. It's very confusing, but knowing how much we need to shave expenses, it probably has something to do with that.

shill22
12-06-2009, 07:30 PM
any word on Wallin's injury/situation? a friend who went to the game the other night called to see if we saw it on tv or heard anything. we missed it.

SouthernHockeyChick
12-06-2009, 07:47 PM
No Corvo, no Wallin, and it's about time for Pitkanen to break another nail. This should be interesting!

toastmasterbone
12-06-2009, 08:41 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2529/4163949308_75e170750d.jpg

My God...

What they say is true: We really are Candy Canes.

:(

caneshockeychick
12-07-2009, 08:27 AM
:lol: @ toast


It's a good hockey week for me as far as seeing the games. All the road games are on TV and they are on night's I'm not working. Let's see how bad I can hurt my liver this week ;) :lol:

IceSun
12-07-2009, 09:24 AM
Pittsburgh with our defense decimated...Should be a great opportunity to rack up another 0 points toward one of those top draft picks...so that we can pick an underrated player who most teams would foolishly pick in the third round :beatup:

c-girl
12-07-2009, 09:38 AM
Here are the Pens' projected lines, according to the official Penguins website:

Forwards
Talbot-Malkin-Guerin
Dupuis-Letestu-Fedotenko
Cooke-Staal-Kennedy
Rupp-Adams-Godard
Defense
Gonchar-Orpik
McKee-Letang
Eaton-Skoula
Netminder
Fleury

Looks like Sid's still out with his groin problem. He didn't play their last game.

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 10:31 AM
Carson's official now (http://hurricanes.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=508939), will join the team in the Steel City.

superdave
12-07-2009, 10:32 AM
Somebody hit Malkin, then, hit him again.

nccanes
12-07-2009, 10:36 AM
I was Lowes yesterday and passed a car in the lot that had a "YINZ" sticker in their window (the round black/white OBX style sticker) and then 2 cars down was a red van with fancy tinted windows that had SCC graphics and the 4 SCF tickets in the back rear window and the plate was "ONEILL 1".

I have no idea why I felt like sharing that, but there you go.

edit: oh yeah: A wise man once said: It's not a hill it's F****** Sagarmatha, as you start out the climb.

Kat
12-07-2009, 11:41 AM
E, that is pretty random! :lol:

KaniacFever
12-07-2009, 12:09 PM
Here are the Pens' projected lines, according to the official Penguins website:



Looks like Sid's still out with his groin problem. He didn't play their last game.

Oh good. Only Malkin can undress our decimated D again and again and again. We might be able to keep the score in the single digits now ;)

SoCalcaniac
12-07-2009, 12:36 PM
:lol: @ E. I've seen a car on the beltline multiple times with that YINZ OBX style sticker and it makes me howl everytime I see it. I agree with Kat, very random post by our legend. :lol:;)

My random post back - did you know you can follow the YinzCam on Twitter? follow them on Twitter @yinzcam.:laugh:


My Saturday night hockey was great with the Canes winning early then my 'Hawks beat the Penguins and only my Sharks let me down by losing to CGY.

Anyway, the Pens lost a game- they didn't look so spetactular vs CHI, so I'm of the mindset that if these guys can focus, and the call ups can play well, we should be able to skate with them and get the freakin' first win.

pamski01
12-07-2009, 12:37 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't know what YINZ is? Can someone
translate?

Thanks!

aldamon
12-07-2009, 12:39 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't know what YINZ is? Can someone
translate?

Thanks!

For the uninitiated:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_English

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yinzer

SoCalcaniac
12-07-2009, 12:40 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't know what YINZ is? Can someone
translate?

Thanks!



Yinz = in the simplest form is like Ya'll - common for most from the western PA region (PIT) area. Also common in West Virginia. Yinz is plural for youn's depending on who you speak to from what specific area of Western PA. It's very complex; especially if you've not heard the word uttered before. :-

ex: I'm going with yinz to the mall. or Yinz'eat yet?


Signed,

Spouse of Native Western PA-er

pamski01
12-07-2009, 12:42 PM
OK, thanks. Guess I've seen it spelled y'uns before. This is a good
place for learnin'.

superdave
12-07-2009, 12:44 PM
OK, thanks. Guess I've seen it spelled y'uns before. This is a good
place for learnin'.

...and we get called rednecks.

SoCalcaniac
12-07-2009, 12:59 PM
For those who don't get the tweets from nhl_canes, Forslund will be on 99.9 with David Glenn at 1:40 you can stream the show live off 99.9's site.

A tweet from KuklasKorner and the Pens say that Crosby is back tonight.

c-girl
12-07-2009, 01:04 PM
Officially (if y'all is an official word :lol:), y'all is actually spelled y'all. It's a contraction of you and all with the apostrophe taking the place of the o and u in you.

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 01:13 PM
I finally finagled all my spell checkers so that y'all is in my lexicon and doesn't get prompted anymore as a mis-spelling. As much as I use it there's a time savings.

And, might I add, "you all" is grammatically correct.

SoCalcaniac
12-07-2009, 01:16 PM
:lol::lol: Ok, ok, Got it. Pretty glaring that I'm not a southerner. :lol:;)

I'm sorry y'all. :lol:

SoCalcaniac
12-07-2009, 01:35 PM
The Forslund appearance on David Glenn has moved to 2:40 per nhl_canes tweet.

c-girl
12-07-2009, 01:48 PM
Heh. Southernese is like a foreign language. I can't even imagine what it's like for someone who wasn't born here to understand the way we talk. :lol:

SouthernHockeyChick
12-07-2009, 01:56 PM
...and we get called rednecks.

EXACTLY what I was going to say.

But trust me...half my family is from PA and half is from the hollers of Western NC. And the bigger rednecks....by leaps and freaking bounds....are the PA half.

Officially (if y'all is an official word :lol:), y'all is actually spelled y'all. It's a contraction of you and all with the apostrophe taking the place of the o and u in you.

And "yinz" is actually "yu'ons" as it is a contraction of "you ones" which is NOT grammatically correct. At least that's my story. :lol:


Now, wait, was there hockey involved here?

I'll make a prediction: Our first road win will NOT be against the Pens.:sick:

Kat
12-07-2009, 02:12 PM
...and we get called rednecks.

EXACTLY what I was going to say.

But trust me...half my family is from PA and half is from the hollers of Western NC. And the bigger rednecks....by leaps and freaking bounds....are the PA half.


There are rednecks everywhere. And generally, good ones too.

Yinz, from what I understand, originates from young ones, young'uns, you'uns, to yinz. It may also be the you ones from A's post. They aren't really sure.

No, I don't say it.

Signed, native Western PA-er.


That being said, I doubt this will be our first road win either.

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 02:20 PM
Couple of game comments in Branecky's blog about Leighton...

Rutherford said that Niclas Wallin will not play tonight at Pittsburgh, paving the way for Brett Carson to make his season debut on defense. He also said that Jussi Jokinen will be in the lineup, and that Coach Paul Maurice would need to make one forward a healthy scratch.

And speaking of the Juice, since his countryman hasn't given me any new quotable quotes lately I'll pick out this one from today's N&O (http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/story/229104.html):

"Obviously, that's important for us, a big goal for us, to win that first one," forward Jussi Jokinen said Sunday.

Has losing on the road become a mental thing?

"Maybe," Jokinen said. "Obviously when you lose that many in a row it starts to become mental.

"We'd like to get that out of the way [tonight] and not have to think about that anymore. What better place would there be to start to win on the road than against the best team last year, the team that won the Cup?"

LeslieK
12-07-2009, 02:25 PM
We've been waiting for this day to come...
99.9 FM the Fan has learned that Rod Brind'Amour will be a healthy scratch tonight for the Carolina Hurricanes...

nccanes
12-07-2009, 02:27 PM
We've been waiting for this day to come...

Wow. (about the scratch...not your comment)

Kat
12-07-2009, 02:28 PM
^^As much as that makes me happy, it makes me sad, too. Poor Brindy. I hate when these older players play until the org has to force them out, rather than just retiring with style.

LeslieK
12-07-2009, 02:31 PM
My comment was more along the lines of I'd rather see Sutter, Jussi, etc have the minutes. If Brindy's in, Mo tends to give him the minutes. With Eric & Jussi "healthy", I guess it forces the issue.

nccanes
12-07-2009, 02:33 PM
My comment was more along the lines of I'd rather see Sutter, Jussi, etc have the minutes. If Brindy's in, Mo tends to give him the minutes. With Eric & Jussi "healthy", I guess it forces the issue.

agree.

I guess we'll hear Tripp babble on endlessly and unnecessarily about this tonight.

kermelbar
12-07-2009, 02:35 PM
Yinz = in the simplest form is like Ya'll - common for most from the western PA region (PIT) area. Also common in West Virginia.

It must be the Pennsylvania part of West Virginia. I'm from outside Charleston (my parents and every other family member, born and raised in southern West Virginia; I attended college in West Virginia with natives from around the state and kids from the northeast because we were super-cheap compared to their schools) and I don't think I've ever once heard a West Virginian say anything other than "y'all."

I get that yinz comes from "you ones," but I can never figure out who in the heck would have said "you ones" instead of "you all" in the first place.

Now, in regards to tonight's game (I like how our game day threads are becoming more like unofficial off-season threads :lol:), wow re: Roddy being scratched. And I'm with Kat -- it might be needed, but it makes me sad, too.

On a totally unrelated note, CL, I'm finally going to "A Christmas Carol" tomorrow night.

Alicia
12-07-2009, 02:46 PM
Wow. (about the scratch...not your comment)
Double wow.

"Obviously, that's important for us, a big goal for us, to win that first one," forward Jussi Jokinen said Sunday.

Has losing on the road become a mental thing?

"Maybe," Jokinen said. "Obviously when you lose that many in a row it starts to become mental.

"We'd like to get that out of the way [tonight] and not have to think about that anymore. What better place would there be to start to win on the road than against the best team last year, the team that won the Cup?"

Obviously. ;)

caneshockeychick
12-07-2009, 02:48 PM
OMG!!!


:eek:

RE: Brind'Amour

And I echo Kat's comments as well. :(

To be honest...I was really thinking it would be Rosey scratched.

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 02:49 PM
I'm a little shell shocked.

Forslund's having a difficult time putting any kind of positive spin on this one. Referred to it as humbling and embarrassing for the Captain.

My head gets it, my heart hurts about it.

Darkwing
12-07-2009, 03:02 PM
I'm a little shell shocked.

Forslund's having a difficult time putting any kind of positive spin on this one. Referred to it as humbling and embarrassing for the Captain.

My head gets it, my heart hurts about it.

Did he use overdue as well? As much as everyone loves #17 and all of his contributions to the organization, if you have to pick a forward to sit, against a team that you're going to need speed to compete against, who else do you pick?

Honestly I'd almost put Brindy on D and put A. Ward in the pressbox, then him and Tripp could spend the entire time playing pattycake and forslund could call the game, but that'd be too many good things to see in one game.

KaniacFever
12-07-2009, 03:03 PM
Wow! Never thought I'd see the day when the Captain is a healthy scratch. :crazy:

ButtersSaysNo
12-07-2009, 03:06 PM
^^As much as that makes me happy, it makes me sad, too. Poor Brindy. I hate when these older players play until the org has to force them out, rather than just retiring with style.

I don't think it really is about him being older. He just never has been the same since he hurt his knee. The fact that he seriously hurt his knee given his age is the issue. That is so unfortunate too, for him and the Canes.

I don't blame him for not retiring yet, I would not leave 6-7 million dollars on the table. That being said, I do hope after this season he hangs it up. Last thing I want to see is him get bought out or for them to make someone else the C while he is still on the team.

Brindy is still my favorite Cane and one of my all time favorite players. He was one of my favorite players even before the Canes. (him and Recchi from me growing up a Flyers fans). I remember the day it was announced that we were getting him, I was so excited. He definitely is not above scrutiny, but for what he has done for the organization he gets less grief from me when I am complaining about our players.

SoCalcaniac
12-07-2009, 03:16 PM
I don't think it really is about him being older. He just never has been the same since he hurt his knee. The fact that he seriously hurt his knee given his age is the issue. That is so unfortunate too, for him and the Canes.



That's how I feel too Butters. It's just real sad -- it's come to this.

and all the piling on I "get" - he shoulda been gone and all that stuff, I get that too, but in this big ol' ugly mess, there's enough blame to go around, I just have a hard time putting it "all" on the captain.

E, the first thing I thought about when I got that tweet about Rod was Tripp and the blathering that will go on in an effort to "defend" Rod's honor. :lol:;) I was probably just as upset just thinking about that, as I was hearing about Rod.

I could tell Forslund was really struggling with the whole idea of the scratch, and I'm guessing it's because of his loyalty to Rod, or that he feels that there has to be a more honorable (my word) way to do this. Well if there is, I sure as heck would like to know..... I thought it was interesting at the end of the interview with David Glenn, Forslund said "I'm still wrapping my brain around the Brind 'Amour scratch. " That was pretty interesting to hear.

nccanes
12-07-2009, 03:20 PM
At the risk of another kinda random post....

During the Canucks game, they had that "flashback" or whatever they call it - and it was when O'Neill scored his 40th goal to become the first hurricane to do so. Anyway, it was an EN goal (they also showed the 39th goal) and after it was over, Ronnie and Brindy came over to congratulate him. Rod looked SO animated in whatever it was he said to O -- made me think about how long it's been since we've seen him like that.

caneshockeychick
12-07-2009, 03:24 PM
IMO its somewhat of an odd thing to be so stacked at center, with good players, that when looking at who would be scratched it would be Brind'Amour. I've always been a fan. I swear sometimes it was him willing our guys back in 2006 to win that cup. But he's not the same as he was back then. We finally learned that he's just as likely to fall to injury as is anyone else and maybe, maybe, at his age, he just doesn't come back from it. Not like he was.

He's a different Brind'Amour, there's no doubt about it. I'm definitely sad. But, then I wonder, looking at our roster....who do you scratch?

toastmasterbone
12-07-2009, 03:45 PM
My head gets it, my heart hurts about it.

x2

A severe reduction in ice time... I get. And I can't stand Brindy starting on 4th (where he should) and ending up with 2nd line minutes, so is this Mo's way of putting a Master lock on the refrigerator? What?... he's can't resist the temptation to give Brindy top minutes? Our Captain is a big yummy Mallomar sitting in at a weight watchers meeting? I can't believe he's getting full-on dropped from the line-up, but like LTD said, "my head gets it."

The thought of the "C" sitting in the press box is putting a sad "holy crap" into all of my thoughts at the moment.

...and we're still gonna' get killed tonight.

superdave
12-07-2009, 03:49 PM
We've been knowing it was coming but now it's like "S*it. I can't believe it". That's a major statement for the team. I'm almost surprised they didn't say he had a nagging injury.

SouthernHockeyChick
12-07-2009, 03:55 PM
I'm a little shell shocked.

Forslund's having a difficult time putting any kind of positive spin on this one. Referred to it as humbling and embarrassing for the Captain.

My head gets it, my heart hurts about it.

Me too.

caneshockeychick
12-07-2009, 04:05 PM
Maybe this means though....we'll get to see the new Canes commercial featuring #15 and "Intimidation"

:D

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 04:07 PM
I wanted the word for #15 to be "Courage". That was my vote. Not too many folks who watch the commercial are probably going to understand "Sisu".

ETA: YEAH BABY (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=353212145286)

KaniacFever
12-07-2009, 04:16 PM
I was in Florida last year when the team went out West and eventually sent Roddy home. I never did get the full story. Did they send him home to rest a 'nagging' injury or was it more of the same of what's going on here, just sending him home rather than scratching him like tonight.

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 04:18 PM
To be honest, it was kind of quietly reported, we were on a west coast swing with less media coverage and without today's twitterazzi, but no, he was sent home specifically to rest an injury versus healthy scratch. At the time one could have read into it what they wanted to, but it was always represented as injury-related.

Convert
12-07-2009, 04:21 PM
While its hard to grasp, this if finally the mgmt of this team making a statement. Brindy's performance has been lacking and the perception is that has also impacted his leadership.

We wanted a statement and we have one......lets see what happens from here.

Its sad for Brindy, but he is collecting some nice cash this year and next.

shill22
12-07-2009, 05:00 PM
just questions but...whatever is bothering Brindy(mental/physical, or whatever) why doesnt he just retire from playing? why not retire before the backsliding gets worse/on a higher note instead of a lower one? the reduced ice time can't be fun.
I certainly don't know the right answer but just questions!

superdave
12-07-2009, 05:04 PM
just questions but...whatever is bothering Brindy(mental/physical, or whatever) why doesnt he just retire from playing? why not retire before the backsliding gets worse/on a higher note instead of a lower one? the reduced ice time can't be fun.
I certainly don't know the right answer but just questions!

About $7 mil on the table this season and next.

nccanes
12-07-2009, 05:06 PM
just questions but...whatever is bothering Brindy(mental/physical, or whatever) why doesnt he just retire from playing? why not retire before the backsliding gets worse/on a higher note instead of a lower one? the reduced ice time can't be fun.
I certainly don't know the right answer but just questions!

Because the man is a competitor.

Because he has worked his ass off his ENTIRE life to do what he's doing.

Because he has faith in himself (justified or not) that he still has the ability.

Because a lot of things in life are a LOT easier said than done.

I have no idea why Rod Brind'Amour isn't the same player. Could it be his knee that's affected his speed/strength. Could it be some hard to explain thing - much like how awful this team is when it shouldn't have been THIS awful.

There are a helluva lot more players that don't have the work ethic or the consistency (up til now) that #17 has....and they don't walk away either, because something inside tells them they can get thru it.

And if they didn't have that internal drive to fight against the odds and compete every day of their lives - they would never be where they are (or have been) to begin with.

superdave
12-07-2009, 05:16 PM
Because the man is a competitor.

Because he has worked his ass off his ENTIRE life to do what he's doing.

Because he has faith in himself (justified or not) that he still has the ability.

Because a lot of things in life are a LOT easier said than done.

I have no idea why Rod Brind'Amour isn't the same player. Could it be his knee that's affected his speed/strength. Could it be some hard to explain thing - much like how awful this team is when it shouldn't have been THIS awful.

There are a helluva lot more players that don't have the work ethic or the consistency (up til now) that #17 has....and they don't walk away either, because something inside tells them they can get thru it.

And if they didn't have that internal drive to fight against the odds and compete every day of their lives - they would never be where they are (or have been) to begin with.

That and the money. Look at it this way, he's been lacing up the skates every day for over 30 years because he's a hockey player. That's who he is.

goalie33
12-07-2009, 05:17 PM
Eric Staal scores twice tonight.

SouthernHockeyChick
12-07-2009, 05:40 PM
Because the man is a competitor.

Because he has worked his ass off his ENTIRE life to do what he's doing.

Because he has faith in himself (justified or not) that he still has the ability.

Because a lot of things in life are a LOT easier said than done.

I have no idea why Rod Brind'Amour isn't the same player. Could it be his knee that's affected his speed/strength. Could it be some hard to explain thing - much like how awful this team is when it shouldn't have been THIS awful.

There are a helluva lot more players that don't have the work ethic or the consistency (up til now) that #17 has....and they don't walk away either, because something inside tells them they can get thru it.

And if they didn't have that internal drive to fight against the odds and compete every day of their lives - they would never be where they are (or have been) to begin with.

Well said.

Brindy could never make another cent and retire better than he ever dreamed. I'd be willing to bet that's plenty for him, as far as the money goes.

nccanes
12-07-2009, 05:46 PM
I agree - I guess no one knows but Rod, but I cannot imagine him doing this just for the money.

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 05:50 PM
On a different topic, Forslund just said possible concussion for Nic Wallin. He's not with the team in Pittsburgh.

SoCalcaniac
12-07-2009, 05:53 PM
I agree - I guess no one knows but Rod, but I cannot imagine him doing this just for the money.

AGREED heartily and your first post was bang on.

If Rod's a football player or a basketball player, I'd say those guys all spend money like it's water and don't realize the career ends and they're trying to sell a championship ring on Ebay or something and they NEED the money gotta keep chasing the money because they're ill equipped to be normal people when it's over; Hockey players, IMO just aren't that way the ones that are, are exceptions. Sure they're going to make money. Sure, they want to be paid. Rod has made his money and even if we buy him out, he's going to get a good chunk of this contract we keep talking about because he's over 35. So to me, the money argument isn't my scene.

Alicia
12-07-2009, 06:10 PM
On a different topic, Forslund just said possible concussion for Nic Wallin. He's not with the team in Pittsburgh.
Ugh...fabulous!

SouthernHockeyChick
12-07-2009, 07:03 PM
Dammit...between all the "yinz" and Brindy talk I missed this.

Crosby will play tonight. (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=508963)

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 07:05 PM
Not a surprised, but confirmed on the radio that Timmay will wear third 'A' tonight.

shill22
12-07-2009, 07:17 PM
yep-we all want/need money-i'd love to have a skill/talent that would net me 7 million /year but what about pride/conscience/whatever. i know he brings more to the game other than on the ice only and stats(like knowledge/in the locker room) but is it worth 7 million? probably not. I AM not bashing him-just legit questions.

puck_it
12-07-2009, 07:31 PM
YOU GUYS

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 07:33 PM
I thought it was yous guys.

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 07:37 PM
Did Forslund just say that Crosby has 19 goals this season?

Our leading scorer doesn't even have 19 points.

And no mention of the scratch in the pregame comments unless I missed them. Tripp mentioned during the standard "injuries and scratches" segment as a coach's decision that will be evaluated on a game-by-game basis since all the forwards are now healthy.

KaniacFever
12-07-2009, 07:38 PM
yep-we all want/need money-i'd love to have a skill/talent that would net me 7 million /year but what about pride/conscience/whatever. i know he brings more to the game other than on the ice only and stats(like knowledge/in the locker room) but is it worth 7 million? probably not. I AM not bashing him-just legit questions.

If you play a sport for 19 years, a game you love and invested so much in, I can't imagine its very easy to walk away from.

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 07:44 PM
ALBIEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

What a pretty goal. He showed great patience.

FinFan
12-07-2009, 07:45 PM
OMG! What a shot! Gorgeous play!

Alicia
12-07-2009, 07:45 PM
WTG, Andrew!

Lainienc
12-07-2009, 07:56 PM
Is there a live internet feed to this game?

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 07:58 PM
JUSSSSSSSSSSIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!

Through two defenders.

Jussi is money.

FinFan
12-07-2009, 07:58 PM
And the Fin Line does #2!

SouthernHockeyChick
12-07-2009, 08:04 PM
Awesome!! And, delayed penalty so we keep the PP!! (I'm behind in the broadcast, FYI)

Brett Carson has blocked three shots!!

SouthernHockeyChick
12-07-2009, 08:06 PM
I object to the phrase "even terms on the ice" when Malkin is out there. We ain't got nothin' that evens that up. Especially not on defense.

Alicia
12-07-2009, 08:10 PM
Awesome, Pitkanen grabbing Crosby by the head, Gleason tagging the hell out of Guerin...woooo!

SouthernHockeyChick
12-07-2009, 08:11 PM
That may be the most honorable fight I've ever seen. Guerin let Timmy get ready before he started, and Timmy stopped swinging once the linesmen had Guerin's arms. Lovely job, boys.

FinFan
12-07-2009, 08:11 PM
I'm surprised Guerin didn't get an instigation.

SouthernHockeyChick
12-07-2009, 08:14 PM
Tripp says the Pens got a "shot of insulin"??? WTF? Adrenalin maybe?:crazy:

FinFan
12-07-2009, 08:15 PM
Tripp never knows what he's saying.

SoCalcaniac
12-07-2009, 08:24 PM
Tripp says the Pens got a "shot of insulin"??? WTF? Adrenalin maybe?:crazy:

:lol: SHC, hub says to me - I gotta quit listening to you , now that you've pointed out how horrid Tripp can be with messing up words, I am noticing it.

I think the Rod-is-scratched lack of comments from Tripp are his way of respecting Rod. He's been scratched. I think Tripp can't deal with it, so he's taking another road.:lol:

Our call ups are doing a solid job and Joni cracks me up when he waltzes over into a scrum and grabs a guy by the head and then gives a face wash. Cracks me the hell up.

Oh, and I better not see any sitting back nonsense with this 2-0 lead. If ATL can come back & win a friggin game being down; the Cup Champs and that bunch sure is heck can come back from being down 2 goals. I will scream bloody murder and y'all, youns, yinz will hear it from wherever you are.

Greensboro Hurricanes
12-07-2009, 08:25 PM
Tripp says the Pens got a "shot of insulin"??? WTF? Adrenalin maybe?:crazy:

Dr. Tripp at it again.

This is the same guy who said that all the blood on the ice when Cam got hurt was a good sign. If Tripp ever says you're looking good you better head to the nearest ER.

SouthernHockeyChick
12-07-2009, 08:34 PM
WOOOOHOOOO! NICE Whit!

And nice job by TKO to use his body to make that room in front of the net! :lol:

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 08:34 PM
WOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOo

SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND

kermelbar
12-07-2009, 08:35 PM
How well trained am I? I'm sitting here working on Christmas card stuff on my computer and I have the game on in the background (well, actually foreground, because if I raise my eyes, I can easily see the TV) and I hear, "AND THEY SCORE!" and my first response is to wrinkle my nose in disgust. Then I realize "they" is really "us." But I was just sure "they" was "them."

Greensboro Hurricanes
12-07-2009, 08:35 PM
I understand why a puck would need eyes, but why eyelashes?

Caniac4life
12-07-2009, 08:35 PM
Tripp says the Pens got a "shot of insulin"??? WTF? Adrenalin maybe?:crazy:

Maybe in the back of his mind he was thinking the Pens are feeding off the Candy Canes.

Nevermind... I shouldn't waste my time trying to understand Tripp's logic.

:lol:

caneshockeychick
12-07-2009, 08:36 PM
Nice one Whitney!!! Nice!!

FinFan
12-07-2009, 08:37 PM
I understand why a puck would need eyes, but why eyelashes?

I was wondering the same thing. Someone needs to teach Tripp "color etiquette".

nccanes
12-07-2009, 08:37 PM
Mellon has the best acoustics and quietest crowd so that you can hear Staal's high pitched WOOOOO.

WillLikeWhoa091
12-07-2009, 08:38 PM
Anyone have a live stream here?

I'm dying in virginia. DYING.

FinFan
12-07-2009, 08:41 PM
I saw that happening before it happened. Who's Manny going to blame this time?

SouthernHockeyChick
12-07-2009, 08:43 PM
Anyone have a live stream here?

I'm dying in virginia. DYING.

We're all dying now. :sick:

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 08:43 PM
There's their two in two.

WillLikeWhoa091
12-07-2009, 08:44 PM
(As soon as they scored their first goal, I looked at my roomate and said "So this means they will score within the next two minutes, and our defensive breakdown should be complete by the end of the second period)

FinFan
12-07-2009, 08:44 PM
We need to skate better. They look so lackadaisical now.

Ooh! Tripp just blamed Manny on that one. Big boy!

Kat
12-07-2009, 08:50 PM
Man, really? Really?? I thought to myself, oh no, we are up 3-0. Time for the comeback to start...


As to Tripp, for a broadcast journalist, you would think perhaps the English language wouldn't be mangled quite so much. My least favorite (and both of them do this one) is "real" good. As opposed to imaginary?

nccanes
12-07-2009, 08:57 PM
Aside from "insulin", I enjoyed hearing that Ray's puck "had eyelashes".

FinFan
12-07-2009, 08:59 PM
There are times when I think even John is like us: WTH is Tripp talking about? He gets really frustrated sometimes with Tripp.

Okay, maybe that was the 10 min. we have the lapse this game and we'll skate a clean and strong 3rd. Of course, I have my fingers crossed.

SouthernHockeyChick
12-07-2009, 09:03 PM
NICE job by Gleason and Legace there!!

Oh, but I guess Legace isn't supposed to need his d-men's help. :roll:

SouthernHockeyChick
12-07-2009, 09:07 PM
Man, what a great play by Sutter. And great save by Fleury, dammit.

FinFan
12-07-2009, 09:07 PM
Yeah, but he blames them for him missing a soft shot.

Oh my! What a try by Tom! Why don't we just bring all the Rats down and ship the money up there. These guys are playing better.

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 09:11 PM
Non-stopoulos was robbed. Nice set up by Brando.

And I can tolerate Crosby but I do not care for Malkin AT ALL.

Lainienc
12-07-2009, 09:15 PM
Anyone have a live stream here?

I'm dying in virginia. DYING.

Likewise in Danbury, CT... from what I can tell, there's only radio. I'll have to thank NHL Fan Faceoff for nothing... their free week of NHL Live pw didn't work and I was counting on that this week. So much for that. :bye:

Caniac4life
12-07-2009, 09:24 PM
Our forwards (some that I won't mention) need to back check with as much effort as they do on offense. Once the puck is turned over, they relax and drift back. They're leaving the defense no option but to lay back and that's feeding right into the skills of the Pens forwards; Open ice, speed thru the neutral zone and room to create chances. Our forwards lack of hustle back is feeding right into their hands.

KaniacFever
12-07-2009, 09:25 PM
Non-stopoulos was robbed. Nice set up by Brando.

And I can tolerate Crosby but I do not care for Malkin AT ALL.

Ditto. I perfer Malkin in the box, glad he's been there twice now. He can go back if he likes.

That play by Sutter was sweet. Shame Fleury made the save on Kostopolous, cause now we'll have to hear how great Fleury is :eyeroll

Well its the 3rd where we tend to give up 5 goals. Not sure a 1 goal lead is gonna get it done.

FinFan
12-07-2009, 09:31 PM
Matty needs a point. Keep his streak going...

Tuomo isn't playing up to his normal self. Think he's playing hurt?

SoCalcaniac
12-07-2009, 09:36 PM
Anyone have a live stream here?

I'm dying in virginia. DYING.

Center Ice?

Where did Non-stopolous come from for TK? Not flattering. I liked how he drove to the net.

If the Captain can be sat down, AWard, can go too. I know they're hurt but the turnovers. UGH.

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 09:37 PM
Tuomo isn't playing up to his normal self. Think he's playing hurt?

Rhetorical question. He's always hurt. But yeah, he's fighting it tonight.

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 09:38 PM
Where did Non-stopolous come from for TK? Not flattering. I liked how he drove to the net.

Uh, Non-stopoulos? It's a compliment.

Goes back to his days with the Habs. A good nickname for a guy who has a good work ethic. Not so good if he were a goalie.

Wally's getting his workout tonight LOL.

FinFan
12-07-2009, 09:47 PM
Good grief! Are we the only D that can't keep the puck in when a team tries to clear?

ltd - I want the old Tuomo back. He needs to heal so he can help get the Fins the gold in February.

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 09:48 PM
Me too.

Yikes, nasty collision with Jussi.

FinFan
12-07-2009, 09:56 PM
Can we PLEASE stop passing the puck to the opponents stick?

Great stop Joni!

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 09:58 PM
Joni seems to play with a little more nasty when we play the Pens.

SouthernHockeyChick
12-07-2009, 10:03 PM
THIS LAST MINUTE IS KILLING ME!!!

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 10:03 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

FIRST ROAD WIN

Monkey off back

We just beat the defending Stanley Cup Champions

Ahhhhhhhhh. That felt GOOD.

Well deserved, fellows. Well deserved.

SouthernHockeyChick
12-07-2009, 10:03 PM
OMFG OUR FIRST ROAD WIN!!!!

AGAINST THE PENS!!!


OMFG!!!!!

IceSun
12-07-2009, 10:04 PM
Wow - Awesome ending for 1st road win - Woooo

SouthernHockeyChick
12-07-2009, 10:04 PM
That end was almost pathetic but, WHO GIVES A ****!! :laugh:

FinFan
12-07-2009, 10:04 PM
Holy crap! What a scrum there in the last few seconds! That was great D there. Fantastic win! Bring on the Devils!!!

Kat
12-07-2009, 10:07 PM
Wow! Yay for the win!

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 10:07 PM
Two games in a row!

And Joni's actually sweating! He was a beast down the stretch.

IceSun
12-07-2009, 10:08 PM
^ SD Faints

SouthernHockeyChick
12-07-2009, 10:08 PM
^^Now comes the 14 loses, right?


LOL, a Pitkanen interview. This should be interesting! :laugh:

IceSun
12-07-2009, 10:09 PM
Loved how Joni didn't come out for A Ward :laugh:

FinFan
12-07-2009, 10:10 PM
Complete Joni Love!!! Gotta love the Fins. :) He played awesome!

toastmasterbone
12-07-2009, 10:11 PM
It looked like Pitkanin, Cullen and Gleason had no sticks at the end.

Wowsers.

KaniacFever
12-07-2009, 10:13 PM
Hell has officially frozen over. Its the only way to explain our first road win against the all mighty Pens. Gawd their fans gotta be pissed :laugh:

And I didn't get to mention earlier, but that pass to Jussi from Joni, pretty. I can never get enough of those 2. And 30:36 for Joni. Dude is a beast.

Oh and we didn't give up a goal in the 3rd. Amazing.

SouthernHockeyChick
12-07-2009, 10:13 PM
Coaching genius, right there. You sit Brindy down and the team snaps right out of it! Now, we can put him back in for second line minutes in NJ and go from there!

:sick:



Jeebus, Joni played over 30 minutes!! No wonder he was sweating! :lol:

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 10:14 PM
I don't think Joni left the ice during the final two minutes.

FinFan
12-07-2009, 10:17 PM
I don't think Joni came off during the last FIVE!

nccanes
12-07-2009, 10:18 PM
Funny that tripp thought about the flight crew that's had to wait until mid December to have a winning team on their departure from an away game :lol:

And wtf is an "oscar-like finish"?

Solracer
12-07-2009, 10:20 PM
So Brindy's out and the whole team plays better defense. Are they over compansating for Brindy and wearing themselves out when he is playing... so wierd..

SoCalcaniac
12-07-2009, 10:21 PM
Joni was sweating in the post game interview. He's actually human. :lol: Plus he's a little funny with his post game interview. Joni's ability to play lots of minutes without looking tired is amazing. He does have outstanding recovery time. After that icing, I was like - UGH, DUDE. But he seems to thrive.

That ending was scary, but it's not how you win, just do it.

Hub's nephew was in the bldg for the game as usual, he sent hub his typical 1st period text, (after the 2 goals were scored by us) and says "I' don't get how the Canes are in last place? this team looks like the team I remember? WTH?) So hub texts back- we play for 40 mins, this is how we often look- good for a stretch then collapse; so hub, who's usually positive about everything related to this team, says "I'll bet you a dinner at Ruth's Chris that this lead evaporates" we score the 3rd goal in the second, and then the Pens get those two, and nephew says, "should I have taken you up on dinner?" and he sends a text back "there's lots of time for collapse is what I'm saying" :lol: Nephew says, they look too strong in all zones to me, I can't bet.

It's pretty crazy when your own family has a stronger belief than you do about the team. I guess that's what fresh eyes does eh?

I'm glad they regrouped and we won. However it happened, doesn't matter. :lol:

caneshockeychick
12-07-2009, 10:23 PM
Guess I'll take that Christmas Tree down and start it up again on Wed. seeing as how I started doing that after the 2nd Pens goal :lol:

Good win by the Canes. They looked so much better out there. They held their own most times.

Hated those last few minutes though...my stomach was rolling and it wasn't the wine.

Pitkanen's a beast.

SoCalcaniac
12-07-2009, 10:27 PM
I really liked Brett Carson's poise out there. Some people can take cues from him especially on the PP. Harrison looked good too.


LOL @ CHC, you might have to do the tree thing every game!

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 10:33 PM
LOL @ Forslund saying Joni needs to be "propped up" every now and then.

SoCalcaniac
12-07-2009, 10:34 PM
Joni played 30+ minutes. Unreal.

Oh, and I really hate it when #6 fights, but admire him every time he does. He's got guts and courage. Love that guy.

E, I have no clue what "oscar-like" finish.

KaniacFever
12-07-2009, 10:38 PM
I don't think Joni came off during the last FIVE!

He played the last 4:11

18:09-20:00

Dude is a freakin beast. Maybe its the sauna :lol:

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 10:39 PM
He played the last 4:11

18:09-20:00

Dude is a freakin beast. Maybe its the sauna :lol:

Holy SH!T

:eek2:

Wait a minute. That's one minute and 51 seconds. Am I reading that wrong? What am I missing? Still freakish.

NCCaniac42
12-07-2009, 11:08 PM
He played the last 4:11

18:09-20:00

Dude is a freakin beast. Maybe its the sauna :lol:

It is the sauna. That will do it for any good Finn.

livinthedream
12-07-2009, 11:55 PM
Mr. LTD asked me earlier what I thought was possible out of this four-game road trip. I'm usually a pretty optimistic person but I told him I thought we'd be lucky to get two points out of it.

So as far as I'm concerned any points from here on out are just gravy! :lol:

Although winning sure feels good, so I hope we do some more of it.

And since it's time to move forward, they're on their way to NJ.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA7033

x
12-08-2009, 12:42 AM
Brind'Amour scratch = 1st road win

Coincidence??? I think not.

I will first state that Rod Brind'Amour has had a fantastic career, and has made immeasurable contributions to our organization. He was the MVP of our Cup run, and should've won the Conn Smythe...

However, there's no question that this move was long, long over-due. It has been obvious for two years now that Rod is neither the player nor the leader of this team that he used to be. It appears that when he isn't playing the way he's expected to, he cannot hold the rest of the team accountable for their shortcomings. Plus, the team plays better without him, and has for two years. If our organization wasn't scared to death to hurt someone's feelings or be labeled as disloyal, this situation would've been handled a long time ago. Performance can decline quickly after 35, and this process was likely hastened by the major knee injury Rod suffered. I understand that Rod has too much pride and confidence in himself to give up the C or retire, and that's why the coaching staff and management has to step in in these situations. It all goes back to the lack of accountability that exists in this organization. It's too bad that our season is already too far gone before significant action was taken on this front or any other. So actually, I am not blaming Brind'Amour for this mess, but rather our incompetent management and coaching staff.

puck_it
12-08-2009, 01:10 AM
i didnt see much of the game, but i'll tell you one thing, the alberts goal was an extremely difficult thing to pull off. i've rarely seen a backhand chance from that angle. he showed great patience, even staal/oneill/francis, anyone, would have shot that IMO. Let alone a low scoring defenseman.

Kahz
12-08-2009, 01:23 AM
Holy SH!T

:eek2:

Wait a minute. That's one minute and 51 seconds. Am I reading that wrong? What am I missing? Still freakish.He played 4:11 of the last 5:00, including the last 1:51.

nccanes
12-08-2009, 06:20 AM
E, I have no clue what "oscar-like" finish.

Maybe that they were "acting" like an NHL team? Although the last minute wasn't exactly what I think someone would choose if trying to "act" like an NHL team.

SHC - I'm with you, I found myself looking at the damn clock on that screen about 50 times over the last minute or so. It was like "just get this **** over with one way or another". :laugh:

nccanes
12-08-2009, 07:03 AM
When we replayed the Alberts goal a few times, we did get a big chuckle out of Cole checking Orpik. :lol:

He took a feed from teammate Ray Whitney just above the left circle and carried the puck toward the net and, after Hurricanes winger Erik Cole knocked Penguins defenseman Brooks Orpik out of the play in front of the net, threw a backhander past goalie Marc-Andre Fleury.

Cole didn't get an assist on the play, but probably deserved to get onto the scoresheet for an interference minor.

"I thought so, yeah," Orpik said. "[Cole] was driving to the net, and just kind of pushed me back into the net so I couldn't get over to [Albert]."

c-girl
12-08-2009, 07:48 AM
i didnt see much of the game, but i'll tell you one thing, the alberts goal was an extremely difficult thing to pull off. i've rarely seen a backhand chance from that angle. he showed great patience, even staal/oneill/francis, anyone, would have shot that IMO. Let alone a low scoring defenseman.

It was a beauty. Alberts had a good game. I thought all three of the goals were nice patient goals.

Convert
12-08-2009, 08:17 AM
I don't think Joni came off during the last FIVE!

Dup of other posts.

livinthedream
12-08-2009, 08:51 AM
He played 4:11 of the last 5:00, including the last 1:51.

Gotcha, thanks for clarifying that, I didn't look at the TOI report. Dude was a machine. During that last two minutes, he'd already been on the ice for the equivalent of a full shift and I watched him skate behind the net away from the play and he held up ever so (trippism) slightly for 10 seconds or so, like he was trying to recover, then he turned the burners back on like he'd just started a new shift. He's something else.

Interesting that we've played two of our best games this season (and tallied 3 of 4 points) against the team we were supposedly built to play against.

All my Pens friends are strangely quiet this morning.

KaniacFever
12-08-2009, 09:27 AM
It was a beauty. Alberts had a good game. I thought all three of the goals were nice patient goals.

I thought Alberts had his best game as a Cane last night. Guess only being a year removed from being a Flyer boy the rivalry is still there.

livinthedream
12-08-2009, 11:26 AM
On a different subject, we appear to have come out of last night's game unscathed injury-wise, which may be a new milestone for a game at the Igloo.

puck_it
12-08-2009, 11:32 AM
lol good point :lol:

VandyCane
12-08-2009, 11:34 AM
I have a completely random question about this game. How come we were actually able to see it? With Versus showing the Devils-Sabres massacre I thought that with the exclusivity thing we shouldn't have been able to see it. Trust me, I enjoyed every minute of it, I was just wondering if they changed the Versus contract.

livinthedream
12-08-2009, 11:39 AM
I think that during football season the Versus exclusivity is actually on Tuesday nights and not Mondays.

nickgregory
12-08-2009, 11:48 AM
fun time at the igloo last night. I have to say, I kind of like being in a town like pittsburgh, with people razzing you as you walk down the concourse.

Sat behind the goal and saw the Alberts and Jokinen goals and they were both incredible shots. Fleury was on fire though. Probably should have been 3-0 at the end of the first.

Overall gracious crowd and glad I got to see the igloo before they knock it down...and yes, they were all mumbling on the way out the door "how do we lose to a team without a road win in December?"

BlueLine
12-08-2009, 11:50 AM
On a different subject, we appear to have come out of last night's game unscathed injury-wise, which may be a new milestone for a game at the Igloo.

I certainly hope you're right, but have to wonder about Scott Walker. He didn't touch the ice past 11:42 into the 2nd. Yelle played another 4 shifts after that, and Samsonov played 3-- but no Scott Walker. I replayed his last shift, but didn't see anything that seemed remotely close to an injury.

(completely off topic-- but wow, what an expensive 4th line!! Walker @ $2.5M, Samsonov @ $2.5M, and Yelle @ $0.55M = $5.55M for 4th line. The only thing that would make it worse would be if Brindy were to beat out Yelle for 4th line duties, which would make it an $8M 4th line!! :eek2: )

livinthedream
12-08-2009, 11:52 AM
Crap! I missed that.

I don't remember anything being said in the post-game. Wonder what's up?

nickgregory
12-08-2009, 01:27 PM
My jersey made the post gazette blog...half way down

http://community.post-gazette.com/blogs/emptynetters/archive/2009/12/07/hurricanes-3-penguins-2-final-s-12-07-09.aspx

caneshockeychick
12-08-2009, 01:46 PM
Nice....he needs to stop with the Whalers crap he's got going on though. :mad:

FinFan
12-08-2009, 02:19 PM
Maybe it was an equipment issue with Scotty and the refs weren't going to allow us back across the ice again. :lol:

Carson and Harrison are HUGE! 6'4" and 6'5". Eric can't claim to be tallest anymore. Best thing is both can skate great. I hope we can keep this up tomorrow night.

Joni only was off the ice for 49 sec. Wow, he's so amazing. I loved it when John said that AWard did a good job of stalling so Joni could get his breath back before the faceoff. :lol:

SouthernHockeyChick
12-08-2009, 03:12 PM
When we replayed the Alberts goal a few times, we did get a big chuckle out of Cole checking Orpik. :lol:

Yeah, but he just got lucky.:evil:





For the record, I think Cole had another great game.

FinFan
12-08-2009, 03:15 PM
For the record, I think Cole had another great game.

I completely agree. His skating has gotten so much better as of late. And he's been relentless on sticking with the puck.

Greensboro Hurricanes
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