What's the Roster Look Like? [Archive]

ChickenParm

03-03-2010, 03:43 PM

So who is going to play for us tomorrow? Do we have to make some call ups to ice a team?

By my count, we're short one up front if Yelle is indeed gone, and at exactly 6 on D (with four R shots). JR, Albany on line 1...

PennsylvaniaCanesFan

03-03-2010, 03:45 PM

^ And Albany's playoff chances may have just went out the window.

wa10

03-03-2010, 03:48 PM

Staal - Whitney - Jokinen
Sutter - Ruutu - Larose
Brind'Amour - Samsonov - Cole
Kostopoulos - Dwyer - ?

Pitkanen - Gleason
Pothier - Picard
Carson?

Peters - Legace

Missing? Osala playing right away?

Jay

03-03-2010, 03:48 PM

By my count, we're short one up front if Yelle is indeed gone, and at exactly 6 on D (with four R shots). JR, Albany on line 1...

How would we have 6 on D?

Pitkanen
Gleason
Carson
Picard
Pothier (if he shows up on time)
???

puck_it

03-03-2010, 03:50 PM

moving posts here... be patient...

Jay

03-03-2010, 03:50 PM

Up front, more like: (IMO)

Staal/Whitney/Jokinen
Sutter/Ruutu/LaRose
Dwyer/Samsonov/Cole
Brind'Amour/Kostopoulos/(Goertzen?)

Staal - Whitney - Jokinen
Sutter - Ruutu - Larose
Brind'Amour - Samsonov - Cole
Kostopoulos - Dwyer - ?

Pitkanen - Gleason
Pothier - Picard
Carson?

Peters - Legace

wa10

03-03-2010, 03:53 PM

Up front, more like: (IMO)

Staal/Whitney/Jokinen
Sutter/Ruutu/LaRose
Dwyer/Samsonov/Cole
Brind'Amour/Kostopoulos/(Goertzen?)

Yeah, sucks not having Cullen.... No real 3rd line center and can't break up the Staal/Jokinen match.

Jay

03-03-2010, 03:54 PM

Yeah, sucks not having Cullen.... No real 3rd line center and can't break up the Staal/Jokinen match.

Jokinen is too good to be delegated to 3rd line center at this point... but Dwyer has had a lot of kick at C, and I'm not sure I mind him there for the rest of the season.

msgtcody

03-03-2010, 03:55 PM

time to stick an enforcer on the 4th line to make up for the toughness we lost. having just gleason no longer qualifies as team toughness.

Jay

03-03-2010, 03:56 PM

time to stick an enforcer on the 4th line to make up for the toughness we lost. having just gleason no longer qualifies as team toughness.

Goertzen!

BrooklynCaniac

03-03-2010, 03:56 PM

Theirs an e5 rumor that Ruutu has played center even though i've never seen it.

Fghtr4jc

03-03-2010, 03:56 PM

time to stick an enforcer on the 4th line to make up for the toughness we lost. having just gleason no longer qualifies as team toughness.

I'm just curious, where do you propose we find this enforcer with the trade deadline passed? Really, not sarcasm, because I'm trying to think of one myself.

Goertzen is about as much an enforcer as Wade Brookbank.

caneshockeychick

03-03-2010, 03:58 PM

I guess we just wait and see what happens. But the pessimist/optimist in me sees...we suck the rest of the year :(/get one of the top 2 draft picks :D

ChickenParm

03-03-2010, 03:58 PM

I would expect Rodney back up now that he's healthy. Albany's off until Friday, and even then they're in Hampton Roads, so I'm going to assume we'll call up 2 & 2 if we can and ship them back in time for Friday's game.

ontheboards

03-03-2010, 03:59 PM

Theirs an e5 rumor that Ruutu has played center even though i've never seen it.
He played center during the Olympics. He was acquired because of his ability to play all forward positions.

livinthedream

03-03-2010, 03:59 PM

Theirs an e5 rumor that Ruutu has played center even though i've never seen it.

He came into the league as a center, and can play there in a pinch.

ETA: ^ OTB I didn't see him play at center during the Olympics, I thought he mostly played on Mikko's wing?

And for the other 'D', Jay Harrison?

Captain Slack

03-03-2010, 03:59 PM

Captain Slack

03-03-2010, 04:00 PM

He came into the league as a center, and can play there in a pinch.

And for the other 'D', Jay Harrison?

Could be. Also could be Rodney.

msgtcody

03-03-2010, 04:01 PM

I'm just curious, where do you propose we find this enforcer with the trade deadline passed? Really, not sarcasm, because I'm trying to think of one myself.

Goertzen is about as much an enforcer as Wade Brookbank.

Riley Cote on waivers, Benn Olson in the ECHL is pretty good. Goertzen or Conboy is temporarily fine as well, just need that 2nd punching bag once Kostopoulos is knocked out. Jay Harrison is a good fighter and isn't bad on D, he could be a call-up.

superdave

03-03-2010, 04:02 PM

Definitely going to have to pick up a roster sheet tomorrow night from Jim at the door of The Eye.

"Who's that guy"

BrooklynCaniac

03-03-2010, 04:06 PM

Definitely going to have to pick up a roster sheet tomorrow night from Jim at the door of The Eye.

"Who's that guy"

Enver Lisin on waivers thats the guy:laugh:

aldamon

03-03-2010, 04:07 PM

I'm more worried about the roster in '11 - '12.

wa10

03-03-2010, 04:09 PM

Jokinen is too good to be delegated to 3rd line center at this point... but Dwyer has had a lot of kick at C, and I'm not sure I mind him there for the rest of the season.

Nope, can't disagree. Jokinen has earned his spot on the top line (as Sutter has earned his spot on the second). I missed Dwyer playing center.

caveman

03-03-2010, 04:18 PM

I'm more worried about the roster in '11 - '12.

How about wondering where goals will come from as soon as next year. Anyway...

PennsylvaniaCanesFan

03-03-2010, 04:32 PM

How about wondering where goals will come from as soon as next year. Anyway...

We may be on the 3 year rebuilding plan. Sell this year, began to develop next year (knowing you will be bad). Try and make the playoffs the following year. If you do, great. If not...oh well. By the 3rd year, hopefully a lot of our picks from this year, and a few ones that develop quicker then expected will be ready to step up and start being a perennial playoff team.

superdave

03-03-2010, 04:37 PM

We may be on the 3 year rebuilding plan. Sell this year, began to develop next year (knowing you will be bad). Try and make the playoffs the following year. If you do, great. If not...oh well. By the 3rd year, hopefully a lot of our picks from this year, and a few ones that develop quicker then expected will be ready to step up and start being a perennial playoff team.

Not here, the market won't bear a 3 year plan. J.R. has to put a playoff caliber team on the ice next year. Wallin, Walker, Yelle, and A. Ward weren't coming back. Corvo and Cullen may be back anyway. Who knows about Whitney. The guys that were leaving anyway weren't exactly top guys anyway and we have younger players who can do as much for less money.

SoCalcaniac

03-03-2010, 04:44 PM

Before everyone starts jumping off bridges on this offense thing, there is such a thing as July 1st and Free Agency. We're seriously not on a "3 yr plan". Just don't see it.

I'm willing to give our GM a chance to work all this out. I fully don't believe that he's making plans to play a bunch of teens or young dudes next season. YoungER maybe, but not the kiddie corral.

I think the GM has been clear to the team and the public on what his intent was for the trade deadline. This doesn't surprise me; but it's disappointing to see so many dudes go. But since I prepped myself --- to a point, this is how I expected today to go.

PennsylvaniaCanesFan

03-03-2010, 04:44 PM

Not here, the market won't bear a 3 year plan. J.R. has to put a playoff caliber team on the ice next year. Wallin, Walker, Yelle, and A. Ward weren't coming back. Corvo and Cullen may be back anyway. Who knows about Whitney. The guys that were leaving anyway weren't exactly top guys anyway and we have younger players who can do as much for less money.

I don't think we are that far from a playoff team. If we had gone .500 during the 12 game losing streak, we would be fighting among the 6-7-8-9 teams. And we did clear up some cap space for FAs.

I do agree that three may be a bit much for the Raleigh market (I'll defer to those that live there to answer for sure). I think we can survive another year of sucking though, especially if we are putting it out there we have young, hard working players. The key is the second year though. I think we can miss the playoffs, but we can't suck.

caveman

03-03-2010, 04:49 PM

Heh, I'm not a bridges kind of guy. (I'm still saying stupid things like 9 points back of the 7th place team with 2 games in hand...) But the UFA goal scoring list is "Marleau, Kovalchuk" this year.

http://www.sportscity.com/nhl/2010-nhl-unrestricted-free-agents-by-position/

But you know, I went down the list of players and we have enough bodies who can put in 15-20 goals. What we're missing is a second 30+ goal scorer (Jokinen is on an incredible run I won't disagree, is he cemented on Staal's wing now?) -- if anything we're too "middle heavy" and Cole and Ruutu and Samsonov are not goal scorers right now. Though we have a long list of 15-25 goal scorers "in theory" ... it would take a combination of Whitney coming back and some of the kids really making a jump, or something very, very unexpected in free agency.

Or, you know, winning the draft lottery I guess.

KaniacFever

03-03-2010, 04:50 PM

I think the GM has been clear to the team and the public on what his intent was for the trade deadline. This doesn't surprise me; but it's disappointing to see so many dudes go. But since I prepped myself --- to a point, this is how I expected today to go.

Agreed. We had the following UFAs:

Cullen - gone
Wallin - gone
Corvo - gone
Walker - gone
Yelle - gone
AWard - gone
Whitney - here

JR said from the get go he was going to trade his UFAs and that he did plus one contract.

PennsylvaniaCanesFan

03-03-2010, 04:51 PM

caveman

03-03-2010, 04:55 PM

I'm unashemedly pro-Corvo (and Cullen and Whitney for that matter) returning if it makes sense. The contracts which are hurting next year are Cole, Brindy, LaRose, and Samsonov. Hopefully most of that group can have a real bounce back year I guess.

msgtcody

03-03-2010, 05:10 PM

Boychuck and Jay Harrison recalled for the game tomorrow.

I like the Harrison recall, lets give him a chance to prove himself and he can drop the gloves if need be.

kermelbar

03-03-2010, 05:22 PM

I swear, I will never again schedule a doctor's appointment for the finale hours of trade deadline! I nearly ran off the road when I was driving home and heard all the names! (The last pre-doc updated I'd heard was Ward and Walker.)

...we suck the rest of the year :(

As much as I don't want to witness suckage this year, I am about ready for a good reason to ditch this av. (Right, ncc? =.)

nccanes

03-03-2010, 05:24 PM

Yes - I am afraid to change the scat av now that we're not sucking. :lol: But I'm sick of this one!

SoCalcaniac

03-03-2010, 05:55 PM

Oh come on girls, it's like the seasons, you wanna new spring wardrobe, you go out and pick out a few nice outfits and you're good to go. Same with the Av- time to wash it out of your hair. :lol:

livinthedream

03-03-2010, 06:09 PM

I don't understand why y'all think you have to be changing your avs all the time. Sheesh. Just pick one and stick with it. How hard can it be?

nccanes

03-03-2010, 06:11 PM

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Before I use LTD's "variations on a theme" approach, I believe I need a new theme. :lol:

SoCalcaniac

03-03-2010, 06:11 PM

^^ Uh-huh........

:lol:

superdave

03-03-2010, 06:17 PM

I don't understand why y'all think you have to be changing your avs all the time. Sheesh. Just pick one and stick with it. How hard can it be?

Yeah, what she said.

My theme is "no theme". I stuck with Smilin Bob last year for so long because of mojo. It was rough since I switch avatars about as often as I change underwear. I am taking a liking to Captain Chaos.

livinthedream

03-03-2010, 06:22 PM

I challenge anyone to find a collection of avatars as impressive as mine are. Just sayin.

:smoke:

kermelbar

03-03-2010, 06:30 PM

^^ I think "mojo" is why ncc and I feel stuck with ours. IIRC, there was mass change for "lucky 13" and then some of us went with crappy avs when that didn't work and damned if the guys stopped sucking full time. I've been scared to change it every since, but I am ready to move on.

I challenge anyone to find a collection of avatars as impressive as mine are. Just sayin.

Well, forgiving the Flyers jersey, but David Boreanaz + hockey (http://www.searchingbones.com/files/2009/01/bones_fireice-sc28_0141.jpg)(and let's not forget that he's played a vampire!) = tailor-made porn for me. :evil:

So slightly back on topic ... My girls are bringing dinner over tomorrow night so they can keep an eye on me post-surgery and we're going to watch the game. I'm going to have to remember to print out a freakin' roster tomorrow or we're going to be LOST.

superdave

03-03-2010, 06:33 PM

I challenge anyone to find a collection of avatars as impressive as mine are. Just sayin.

:smoke:

You really think Ruutu beats Captain Chaos, or Captain Jack Sparrow Staal, or Smilin Bob, or the Let's Go Canes Cows, or Mo as Forest Gump, or any of the others I've had.

I think not.

SoCalcaniac

03-03-2010, 06:33 PM

Kermie, "Surgery"? did I miss something? Be well & good luck!

& LOL @ David Boreanaz= porn comment. :lol:

SouthernHockeyChick

03-03-2010, 06:47 PM

I swear, I will never again schedule a doctor's appointment for the finale hours of trade deadline! I nearly ran off the road when I was driving home and heard all the names! (The last pre-doc updated I'd heard was Ward and Walker.)

Now imagine you heard them all at once. I almost drove off the side of the parking garage!:lol:

kermelbar

03-03-2010, 07:03 PM

I think I'm still recovering from the Walker news -- I get that it's to give him a chance at the Cup, but his name just wasn't on my radar (not to be confused with Rudar) -- and then to hear this whole list of names ... Oy!

And, as our friend LTD/Judy pointed out, not one of those names is the Wizard! Dude, I fell for the smoke and mirrors! :lol:

^^ Nothing too serious -- having my knee scoped tomorrow morning to smooth out the cartilage under my right knee. It causes me a certain amount of pain even though I haven't run in months and the noises it makes when I bend are just unreal. I should be home well before lunch.

livinthedream

03-03-2010, 07:14 PM

You really think Ruutu beats Captain Chaos, or Captain Jack Sparrow Staal, or Smilin Bob, or the Let's Go Canes Cows, or Mo as Forest Gump, or any of the others I've had.

I think not.

AMATEUR

Don't toy with me.

Jay

03-03-2010, 07:19 PM

I may not have an epic collection, but I think I'm the only one with an original Klaus Shmidheiser piece of art as an avatar (He's the illustrator of http://plaidavenger.com, and a talented web designer who works for the same company as me).

livinthedream

03-03-2010, 07:41 PM

So have we established that our avatars are more interesting than our roster?

ETA: Jay, that's pretty cool!

kermelbar

03-03-2010, 08:13 PM

Well, I think we need to know more about our roster first. Until Thursday night, I lean toward avs. :) I hope I don't have to say "avs for certain" after Thursday night.

Jay

03-03-2010, 09:07 PM

ETA: Jay, that's pretty cool!

Yeah, I'm lucky. He does them for co-workers as a 20% project (spend 20% of your time doing something good for the company but maybe not on your normal plate of things to do)

superdave

03-04-2010, 07:21 AM

AMATEUR

Don't toy with me.

My avatar can beat up your avatar.

aldamon

03-04-2010, 07:53 AM

So have we established that our avatars are more interesting than our roster?

ETA: Jay, that's pretty cool!

Yes.

ontheboards

03-04-2010, 10:11 AM

He came into the league as a center, and can play there in a pinch.

ETA: ^ OTB I didn't see him play at center during the Olympics, I thought he mostly played on Mikko's wing?
Perhaps that is how he played center in the Olympics. I can't recall which game, but he the game announcer commented that he was playing center, which surprised me as I too, usually saw him on the wing, but there he was in the face off circle. He's not the most effective center and Jussi is more versatile than he is.

PennsylvaniaCanesFan

03-08-2010, 09:28 AM

For lack of anywhere else to post this...

I'm very impressed with the roster as of late, especially Sutter. We seem to have that energy and speed that was lacking over the course of the season. Now that the dust has settled past the trades, I think we should be in good shape for the upcoming season. We have some cap room to supplement our needs, and have plenty of draft picks to stock for the future. If we can get one of these draft picks to make a 1st year impact, and young Boychuk comes up to speed, I think we are in very good shape for the next few years.

puck_it

03-08-2010, 10:26 AM

yeah, well, i was impressed with the roster at the end of last season too :lol:

caniac97

03-08-2010, 10:54 AM

who would have thunk we would have lost the players we did and still play pretty darn good.

Darkwing

03-08-2010, 02:41 PM

who would have thunk we would have lost the players we did and still play pretty darn good.

In some fairness the ones we lost were either hurt (Walker) or horribly irresponsible defensively (Corvo), it's not a stretch to imagine us playing well without them. Alberts gone and Harrison in is the only one that leaves me feeling uneasy.

SoCalcaniac

03-08-2010, 03:04 PM

In some fairness the ones we lost were either hurt (Walker) or horribly irresponsible defensively (Corvo), it's not a stretch to imagine us playing well without them.

Surely the AWard deletion in this conversation was just an oversight eh? Corvo played what 2 months this season for us and came back for 3 or 4 games? I'd take Corvo back on July 1 as I believe he played well for us. He needs the right situation and I think he had that here.

The whole Jay Harrison call up personally baffles me. I was hoping with the exit of Alberts, they would call up Jamie McBain, considering how hell he's done in Albany this season and it's been brought up. or at the very least call up Bryan Rodney. Then I was reminded quickly by our buddy Tripp during the Saturday broadcast that Harrison is one of the Coach's dudes from his days in TO. "Paul Maurice is very comfortable with Jay Harrison, he had him in TO". Nothing against Harrison, but yeah.........

Darkwing

03-08-2010, 03:08 PM

Surely the AWard deletion in this conversation was just an oversight eh? Corvo played what 2 months this season for us and came back for 3 or 4 games? I'd take Corvo back on July 1 as I believe he played well for us. He needs the right situation and I think he had that here.

The whole Jay Harrison call up personally baffles me. I was hoping with the exit of Alberts, they would call up Jamie McBain, considering how hell he's done in Albany this season and it's been brought up. or at the very least call up Bryan Rodney. Then I was reminded quickly by our buddy Tripp during the Saturday broadcast that Harrison is one of the Coach's dudes from his days in TO. "Paul Maurice is very comfortable with Jay Harrison, he had him in TO". Nothing against Harrison, but yeah.........

Aaron who? ;-)

Certainly not saying Corvo wasn't a good defenseman, but until I see Pothier lose a puck as he skates behind our own net and give up a turnover while he 's attempting to skate through our own crease on a breakout and give up a goal, I'm happy with the trade.

SoCalcaniac

03-08-2010, 03:14 PM

KaniacFever

03-08-2010, 03:16 PM

Caniac4life

03-08-2010, 08:48 PM

:lol: @ Darkwing. +2 points for you. :laugh:

I like the trade up and down and I think Pothier is one of those underrated type dudes. You look at him and he just plays, and always has even back to when he was with OTT. I like what he brings, considering our defensemen are an interesting group of guys who to me are literally game to game on what can 'happen'. Pothier has just rolled in and he's a calming force back there. Kinda reminds me of a guy we all liked a lot around here---- Glen Wesley.

I agree. He seems like a steady defenseman who makes good decisions with the puck. We needed a bit of that. It's good sometimes when a difficult situation develops in our end and your heart doesn't skip a beat because of which of our guys is defensively responsible.

:lol:

livinthedream

03-08-2010, 08:54 PM

In roaming around the internets I've seen several posts from Caps fans who say Pothier's a good character guy on and off the ice. Can't have too many of those on your roster either.

KaniacFever

03-08-2010, 09:13 PM

In roaming around the internets I've seen several posts from Caps fans who say Pothier's a good character guy on and off the ice. Can't have too many of those on your roster either.

They also say he's a BIG family guy. I've heard the triangle is a great place to raise a family ;)