Game Thread .... vs. Sabres, 3/21/2010

[nccanes]

So - I'm guessing that CL is resting this evening, she's had a pretty eventful week! Sweet dreams CL!

So, I am only going to imagine the following as I will not make the game:


Drunkard 69 strolls into Snooterville East about 4:41 and waves to his friends/neighbors/enemies upon arrival....lgc_com tweets his arrival moments later.

At least 1 Sabres fan gets tossed from the RBC.

At least a dozen never make it in from the parking lot. (will the girl with the too short mini skirt and platform flip flops stumble back into the RBC? I've so missed her since '06)

There will be a much smaller "fan-to-Raleigh's finest" ratio.

Oh wait - there's a hockey game?

So yeah - who will be the back up goalie? Tripp? Jorge? Matthew Forslund?

Will McBain's points streak continue?

Will Dixie be in attendance....and as importantly, her cowboy hat?

Y'all have a blast. I will be listening to this one and awaiting tweets/txts from the front line!

:laugh:

[FinFan]

How about Barraso in goal? He can put the 30 on and pretend he's Cam. If not Tom, then I pick Matthew Forslund. He can cover more of the goal than Tripp.

I've seen the Slug fans once this season and that's enough. I'm going to be sleeping up until game time (hopefully) so I can watch it and stay up late for the Pack Women's NCAA game.

[DSCanesfan]

I'll be out there tomorrow. I think some of my crew will be there around noon. I hope to be paddling at Falls Dam from noon until two or three since the Corps decided to release water at 2500 CFS all weekend long. After I get my kayak fix in I'll be heading straight to the RBC Center. For anyone that wants to stop by and say hello, I'll be in East Lot Premier. It'll be hard to miss me, Blue Wrangler with a red Dagger Mamba 8.0 kayak on top. Stop on by!

For those of you wondering, tomorrow's game is a must win game for the Canes.:laugh:



Go Canes!!!!

Doug

[rbochan]

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[IceSun]

I will be expecting a full report from those in attendance on if "kilt-boy" shows up!

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[kermelbar]

The seatmates and I will be at this one and we're also doing the Backyard Bistro tailgate. I didn't have the potty-mouthed kids and oblivious dad kicked out last week, so I'll be quick on the draw to grab an usher today.

[Canesluver]

Thanks for starting the thread, NCC! You guessed right. Actually --I was pretty out-of-it with a high fever yesterday afternoon/evening. Fortunately, I'm much better this morning.

We're planning to brave this one (as long as I'm up to it). Fingers crossed!! :beatup:

[shill22]

eh gads-not the kilt beast. reason enough not to go or load up on the after surgery pain meds

[caniac97]

regardless of how our season goes, as long as we beat these douchebags 4 times a season then I am one happy man.

[e2ipiand1]

I'll be sitting downstairs for this one. Six of my sister's friends are attending, so naturally she's sitting with them and somehow I got talked into sitting down there too.

[SoCalcaniac]

CL, glad you're doing better today- and crossing fingers you'll be good to go for this one!



At least a dozen never make it in from the parking lot. (will the girl with the too short mini skirt and platform flip flops stumble back into the RBC? I've so missed her since '06)

:lol::lol: I have her in the back of my head in my '06 memories-I-can't-let-go-of bank; I have to believe she was TRULY a traveler to Raleigh for that game, so hammered out of her mind and it was what 3pm? :lol: Only regret was that she never fully splat on the ground although she teetered so very elegantly that afternoon, got mesmerized into believing she'd be a goner and always seemed to have a fellow drunk to keep her propped. ;)

Looking forward to this game, regardless of the types of visitors we'll have in the building.

So are we to presume Manny is "ok"? No call up ? Will we need Matthew Forslund to step in? I've not seen or read anything about Manny's status..... interesting.

[superdave]

Looking forward to a good afternoon of tailgating. Looking forward to squashing the Slugs. If they would just let me into the RBC with a taser or tranquilizer gun for a few select Slug fans it would be the perfect day.

Any word on the goalie situation?

[Kat]

Hey, E, time? You need to take lessons from CL on posting game day threads. :D

[nccanes]

Oops!!!

Puck Drops at 5pm!

Y'all be careful out there! :D

And it's on FSCarolinas in HD

[nccanes]

Guess Manny is good enough to backup?

Seems odd that there's no mention from anywhere confirming that.

[Greensboro Hurricanes]

I'm down in 121 today defending an old seatmates seats from Sabre squaters.

In honor of Stormy's (fake) birthday, I'm wearing my Stormy 1998 gamer and foamhead. I dare any Sabres fans to try and knock it off!

[ultrablue55]

I'm down in 121 today defending an old seatmates seats from Sabre squaters.

In honor of Stormy's (fake) birthday,

I guess you're going to tell me Santa Claus is fake too, right? C'mon, get real.

[ultrablue55]

I'm down in 121 today defending an old seatmates seats from Sabre squaters.

In honor of Stormy's (fake) birthday,...

I guess you're going to tell me Santa Claus is fake too, right? C'mon, get real.

[Greensboro Hurricanes]

Holy crap, the Oriole Bird is here! I must find him!

[Greensboro Hurricanes]

I guess you're going to tell me Santa Claus is fake too, right? C'mon, get real.

I'm not saying Stormy is fake (he's real of course - we've all seen him). My quibble is with when they celebrate his birthday.

Stormy was "born" on 10/10/97, the same day we won our first game. For some reason they've moved his birthday to the spring the last several years.

[FinFan]

Best. Sign. Ever.

Got Ruu-tu-de?

[FinFan]

There is going to be a nasty fight in this game.

Wow... we need to play better!

And that is not happening. 1 on 4 and they score?

[puck_it]

There is going to be a nasty fight in this game.


..in the stands.

[KaniacFever]

Well we left after the 2nd. Mark this day down, cause its the first game i've ever left since 2001. The row in front of us were all Slug fans and I along with the boyfriend were mere inches from punching the one guy in front of us. Its no wonder these Buffalo people continue to be jacka$$es, they continue to help the population and their kids grow up to be like their jacka$$ father. If that 6 year old child put his finger in my face one more time going "Sabres #1" I was seriously going to punch his father. Then the father had the nerve to say I was being a poor sport after I asked him to teach his son manners. F*ck you and go back home to that ****ty place you call home.

Knowing how much these guys know we hate it when Buffalo comes to town, you'd think they would have shown up when the puck as dropped, not where there's 20 minutes left, you are already getting your a$$es kicked, and half the Canes fans left.

And I seriously wish Timmy wasn't injured b/c Montador needed a Timmy beatdown.

ThankS God we won't be seeing these jacka$$es anymore this season. Here's hoping for a 1st round exit.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

God, I ****ing hate Buffalo. But, I'll tell you what...if my team had packed it in after the second period like that I'd be REAL worried about my chances in the playoffs. Not that anyone remotely related to Buffalo has ever had a clue what it took to win.

[FinFan]

Wow, sorry you had to deal with that, KF. I noticed how many Slug fans there were in the stands. It was awful. I quit watching the game in the 2nd, so frustrated with our play. I understand we were probably so tired. It's hard playing two very physical teams back to back. They only played Florida last night. And they said that they had come out late for warmups the last three games they'd played. I hope they get rested up.

[kermelbar]

There are just not words to describe how much I hate those b*tches. ThankS God my area was somewhat well insulated -- there was one Sabres fan at the end of my row, but I don't think he ever stood to cheer, just an in-the-air-fist-pump and I'll accept that. But otherwise? Mother of God, if Buffalo is so freakin' awesome that its fans can't let it go, then MOVE THE EFF BACK.

Also, love the girl in the front of 101 who had the NO GOAL 99 jersey. Goodness knows I can hold a grudge with the best of them, but REALLY? You paid for that? And I bet you somehow think it's going to change history and someone will blast the Stars' names off the Cup and etch the Sabres' names on?

[nickgregory]

at the game today with my 3 year old...and we are walking through the concourse to our seats and there are a group of 4 sabres fans...mid twenties...my daugher says "excuse me" so we could get past, and they move, and one of them noticing her Canes jersey says "nice jersey, too bad you are going to have to find someone else to root for when this joke of a franchise goes away" with his friends snickering I walk over and get in his face and say "junior, either you are going to walk away or I am going to lay you out in front of your friends and this three year old...you choose". He looks around for a second and his buddy says "come on, lets go" and they walk away...

classless...how the hell do you talk trash to a 3 year old?

on the game...I am continually impressed with the youngsters...yeah, some teams are probably not playing their A game, but I like the heart and effort I see from the kids...

[c-girl]

Two obnoxious Slugs fans sat down behind us and the more boorish one of the two bellowed out "THERE AREN'T ANY CUP HOLDERS UP HERE. THAT'S B***S***!!!!" Then he bellowed it a second time. A third time. I turned to Hubs and said "well if he bellows that ten more times maybe a cup holder will magically appear . . . up his a**."

After a few minutes, he bellowed again that they ought to go steal a seat downstairs and I'm thinking "There is a god." They never came back but I'm betting they got thrown out before they ever reached the lower bowl.

On the other hand, there was a cute Slugs family in front of us - mom, dad, and two little kids. They supported and cheered for their team and didn't bother anybody. I know it's hard to believe but it IS possible to act like decent people.

We left after the second. Only the second game we've ever left early.

[toastmasterbone]

Two obnoxious Slugs fans sat down behind us and the more boorish one of the two bellowed out "THERE AREN'T ANY CUP HOLDERS UP HERE. THAT'S B***S***!!!!" Then he bellowed it a second time. A third time. I turned to Hubs and said "well if he bellows that ten more times maybe a cup holder will magically appear . . . up his a**."

After a few minutes, he bellowed again that they ought to go steal a seat downstairs and I'm thinking "There is a god." They never came back but I'm betting they got thrown out before they ever reached the lower bowl.

The lack of cup holders is a sobriety test. Buffalo FAIL.

[kermelbar]

"Well, since you don't have a Cup, I don't see what the problem is." ;)

[c-girl]

^Oh my gosh, I wish I had thought of that! :laugh:

Actually, Hubs has forbidden me to speak to fans of the opposing team. For good reason. :crazy:

[SoCalcaniac]

classless...how the hell do you talk trash to a 3 year old?

Cause they're from BUF? UNBELIEVABLE. and APPALLING. Sorry to hear your story Nick, I hope the little one is ok and not permanently traumatized.

KF, OMG. Hate for you to go through what you did.

I've got a couple stories, but the biggest one that happened before the game even friggin started. One of the guys in our row confronted a Slug fan during the anthem who was standing in the aisle during the anthem, talking to his friend (loudly) and holding two beers (natch) while he kept his hat on. The Canes fan in our row said "you need to take your hat off" and of course the guy turns around, and looks at the guy and tells him to do something to himself (loudly). The guy then sits in his seat in the next section and begins drinking his two beers while Katherine is still singing. By this time, an older man (I'd say late 60ish-maybe 70) comes up to him and confronts him about sitting and wearing his hat and the guy flips him off and continues to sit. The lady and kids sitting directly behind him promptly got up, and got an usher--- I am guessing she asked to be moved. Meanwhile we had a Slug couple in front of us, who apparently didn't realize they were at a game because literally every 5 minutes they were up getting booze and she was eating every item in the concession stands.

Fast forward to the post game nonsense, hub was literally SURROUNDED by drunken men high fiving and hooting at the top of their lungs in the men's room, in hubs words "as if they won the Cup or something of note; this is one game, if they think they've got it all wrapped up and just need the thing etched with their names, they'll be gone after the first round". My husband speaks very few words. he rarely allows stupid people to get to him- and I don't think they did, I think he was just floored at the levels of stupidity in the men's room of all places, and shook his head in disbelief.

So to the game- all of this crap makes for a hellacious night. Of all the damn teams to lose to, I can't accept losing to that trash unit that is BUF.

Patrick Kaleta is a punk like he's always been, as is Adam Mair. Craig Rivet used to be likeable, but of course now he's a slug and the filth rubs off. Adam Mair cross checking LaRose in the face was real bush. and Rivet attempting to slew foot and then cross checking #12 from behind in ONE play, was real elegant, and Kaleta tried to drill #17's head into the glass. It's no longer Slugville, it's Thugville.

I am impressed with the kids- McBain is just so poised and likeable. I'm just rooting for him to be in this mix next fall.

I am hoping to all hell that The Coach, who had no trouble scrambling lines, wakes up and decides to move Boychuk up with #12. If he's going to play in this league as a highly touted "offensive" guy, well get him up there and let us see what he's got. If he's indeed the heir apparent to #13, as #13 has said, then let's GO. /off my soapbox on the Boychuk kid

Time to move on but this BLOWS CHUNKS. I friggin hate Buffalo and more specfically their FANS.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

at the game today with my 3 year old...and we are walking through the concourse to our seats and there are a group of 4 sabres fans...mid twenties...my daugher says "excuse me" so we could get past, and they move, and one of them noticing her Canes jersey says "nice jersey, too bad you are going to have to find someone else to root for when this joke of a franchise goes away"

Things the Buffalo Sabres have done that the Carolina Hurricanes have not: declared bankruptcy (even with the Center of the Hockey Universe and their waiting list less than two hours away).

Things the Carolina Hurricanes have done that the Buffalo Sabres have not: won a Cup.

We win.


On the trash-talking to a three year old, though can you really blame him? He was just trying to find someone of the same intelligence level as him.

Nope, scratch that. She's WAY more intelligent than him. He was looking for someone with the same level of schooling.
Maybe?

[brindyfan]

I have two things to say:

1) I have officially banned myself from home games against Buffalo. Their fans bring out the absolute WORST in me.

2) I really HATE their fans. UGH!!!

I could say more but they are so not worth it.

[ontheboards]

I was not the least bit offended, insulted or annoyed by a single Buffalo fan today. Not a single one. However, I was absolutely mortified, disgusted an appaled by a number of Hurricane fans this afternoon while tailgating. Multiple Canes fans near us started talking smack, yelling things at Buffalo fans and even talking trash with young kids wearing Buffalo colors/shirts. The most obnoxious were two couples, not together, in the premier west lot. One guy, in front of his girlfreind, yelled unprovoked at two female Buffalo fans that they sucked co** and repeatedly flipped them off. Another guy kept calling calling the Buffalo fans walking by "mother fu***rs!" I have a bad potty mouth, am of strong opinion and am not easily offended, but in these instances, I was absolutely appalled and disgusted. I swear I wish someone had walked over to either of these fat heads and just laid them out. They finally shut up once they got bored, but I thought we'd have to move from our spot. Then, a mom with her kids in tow, called out a kid with his family for wearing a Buffalo jersey, telling him he ought to be ashamed of himself, so he said something back and she then told him how rude and poorly raised he was, which escalated into two families bickering. All of the delightful encounters I witnessed were initiated by Hurricanes fans. I am now of the opinion that Buffalo no longer has a corner on the "bad fan" market.

[brindyfan]

I was not the least bit offended, insulted or annoyed by a single Buffalo fan today. Not a single one. Howver, I was absolutely mortified, disgusted an appaled by a number of Hurricane fans this afternoon while tailgating. Multiple Canes fans near us started talking smack, yelling things at Buffalo fans and even talking trash with young kids wearing Buffalo colors/shirts. The most obnoxious were two couples, not together, in the premier west lot. One guy, in front of his girlfreind, yelled unprovoked at two female Buffalo fans that they sucked co** and repeatedly flipped them off. Another guy kept calling calling the Buffalo fans walking by "mother fu***rs!" I have a potty mouth and am not easily offended, but in these instances, I was absolutely appalled and disgusted. I swear I wish someone had walked over to either of these fat heads and just laid them out. They finally shut up once they got bored, but I thought we'd have to move from our spot. Then, a mom with her kids in tow, called out a kid with his family for wearing a Buffalo jersey, telling him he ought to be ashamed of himself, so he said something back and she then told him how rude and poorly raised he was, which escalated into two families bickering. All of the delightful encounters I witnessed were initiated by Hurricanes fans.

That wasn't me, I promise. The worst thing I said was "Go Home Buffalo"

[JohnH]

Are there that many Buffalo exiles living in the Triangle, or did half an arena's worth of Slugfans drive down for the day? It's the only time I've ever heard cheers for the opponent not get drowned out by "LET'S GO CANES!"

I bought the Backyard Bistro tailgate package (good fried chicken, mac & cheese and banana pudding today) and have spent five games in 111, row S. I think row T has been occupied at every one of those games by fans of the opponent. Today's Slugfans in those seats were polite and well-behaved. When Miller made a good save, they chanted "U-S-A! U-S-A!" - and who's going to argue with that? I did see a Slugfan a couple of sections over standing and waving his middle finger in every direction after our last goal, but all in all I witnessed considerably less Slugslime today than I've seen in the past.

John

[livinthedream]

I roved more than Joni today, and the sections I roved in were full of Slugs fans. It was loud but ThankS God no issues otherwise.

I was a little nervous walking through the concourse afterwards though.

[brindyfan]

JohnH, I agree. They did seem better behaved this year than in years past. But I am still going to ban myself from these games mainly because I just don't want to deal with it anymore.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

I had thought they had been better behaved this year....until today.

I didn't see Drunkard 69 or the kilt guy, though. First time in a while.

Though, I'm not entirely sure Drunkard didn't trade his jersey in for a Torres jersey. Luckily, I didn't see that guy again after the 1st, though.

[c-girl]

Chip's being humorous again. :lol:


The Canes' Joni Pitkanen then crosschecked Derek Roy into the boards at 7:30 of the first. Roy fell to the ice as if crushed by the hit, then popped back up for the power play.

Roy also got an assist on Connolly's goal, on the rebound, so it appears Roy wasn't seriously injured on the Pitkanen hit.

[SoCalcaniac]

LOL @ BrindyFan, I feel your pain.

I'm one to believe that all of this hatred, (and make no mistake, it's full on HATE both ways) is never going to die- it ebbs and flows (read: when we're in the playoffs and they're not, like last year, it's eerily quiet when they are seated 3rd in the east they're world beaters; like this year) I can live with all that, that's why you have rivalries, but it's this arrogance for their team and contempt that they have for us, because they can't win a dang thing is what galls me.

What's hilarious to me is that I at one point in my life had low blood pressure. My mom has it, I battled it, and now I'm essentially normal. But I kid you not, I feel like my blood pressure is about to go off the freaking charts every time we get ready to play this team in our building.

[KaniacFever]

The last home game against Buffalo, I thought they might be turning a page, but today they reminded me that they can't ever turn that page.

Slug fans just bring out the worst in us all I believe. I'm pretty tolerant with other fanbases, even Pittsburgh's, but Buffalo, one thing and I'm ready to punch someone. They look at me the wrong way and I just get so tense and my hands start balling in fists. And I've never ever gotten in a fight, but I swear one of these days I'm gonna pull a Ralphy from a Christmas story and start pounding on one of these jacka$$es.

I actually like having other teams fans in our building, but with Buffalo I seriously wish there was a way to keep them out. Atleast not have any games on the weekend where they can sit out in the parking lot drinking for hours before the game.

[brindyfan]

All I have to do is see that "lovely" jersey and I can feel my blood pressure just skyrocketing. Since I will not only get banned from the RBC Center but also get fired from my job should I ever get in an "altercation", I think it best I stay away next year for those two games.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Yeah, Buffalo is the Center of the Diving Universe and Derek Roy leads the pack. He practically patented it. I couldn't BELIEVE he got that call.

The last home game against Buffalo, I thought they might be turning a page, but today they reminded me that they can't ever turn that page.

Slug fans just bring out the worst in us all I believe. I'm pretty tolerant with other fanbases, even Pittsburgh's, but Buffalo, one thing and I'm ready to punch someone. They look at me the wrong way and I just get so tense and my hands start balling in fists. And I've never ever gotten in a fight, but I swear one of these days I'm gonna pull a Ralphy from a Christmas story and start pounding on one of these jacka$$es.

I actually like having other teams fans in our building, but with Buffalo I seriously wish there was a way to keep them out. Atleast not have any games on the weekend where they can sit out in the parking lot drinking for hours before the game.

That is so exactly me.

I mean, I find myself sitting there seething because they move down here and take our jobs. I mean WTF is that all about?!? :crazy: That's about as logical as tits on a boar.:lol:

It's probably PTSD from actually having glasses thrown at me in 05-06.

[brindyfan]

It's probably PTSD from actually having glasses thrown at me in 05-06.

That's it! I know what I have now.:laugh:

[Kidder]

THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS!!!

I am SO SICK of hearing nothing but venom from Canes fans about Buffalo fans. Well, guess what? Plenty of Canes fans are NO BETTER THAN THE BUFFALO FANS!

Has anyone ever thought about this.... maybe if those IDIOT Canes fans didn't try to rile up the Buffalo fans, or go LOOKING for something to ***** about, then the majority of the "problems" seen wouldn't even happen?

And as for things like taking your hat off during the anthem, is that any less respectful than the group of idiots that are screaming "GLEASON" during the Anthem? And not one is spoken about that, eh?



I was not the least bit offended, insulted or annoyed by a single Buffalo fan today. Not a single one. However, I was absolutely mortified, disgusted an appaled by a number of Hurricane fans this afternoon while tailgating. Multiple Canes fans near us started talking smack, yelling things at Buffalo fans and even talking trash with young kids wearing Buffalo colors/shirts. The most obnoxious were two couples, not together, in the premier west lot. One guy, in front of his girlfreind, yelled unprovoked at two female Buffalo fans that they sucked co** and repeatedly flipped them off. Another guy kept calling calling the Buffalo fans walking by "mother fu***rs!" I have a bad potty mouth, am of strong opinion and am not easily offended, but in these instances, I was absolutely appalled and disgusted. I swear I wish someone had walked over to either of these fat heads and just laid them out. They finally shut up once they got bored, but I thought we'd have to move from our spot. Then, a mom with her kids in tow, called out a kid with his family for wearing a Buffalo jersey, telling him he ought to be ashamed of himself, so he said something back and she then told him how rude and poorly raised he was, which escalated into two families bickering. All of the delightful encounters I witnessed were initiated by Hurricanes fans. I am now of the opinion that Buffalo no longer has a corner on the "bad fan" market.

[Kidder]

And how is it that I have NEVER had an altercation with Buffalo fans?

Hell, I even parked in the middle of a huge group of them during the 06 Playoffs, and was wearing all Canes gear. They gave me a bunch of crap, and I gave it back to them.

But guess what, they were just there having a good time giving me crap, and I gave it right back to them.

Told them in the end to enjoy the game, and they offered me a beer to drink on the way in.

If you're looking for trouble, it will usually find you...

[SouthernHockeyChick]

If you're looking for trouble, it will usually find you...

And since that is all you're EVER doing on this board, I think we can all move on from this conversation. Thanks...enjoyed the tired, old lecture!

[JohnH]

I am SO SICK of hearing nothing but venom from Canes fans about Buffalo fans. Well, guess what? Plenty of Canes fans are NO BETTER THAN THE BUFFALO FANS!

I've said more than once (though maybe not on this board) that the single most obnoxious hockey fan I've ever encountered was unfortunately one of ours. It was during the 2002 playoff series with Toronto and he tried to rip a Canadian flag out of the hands of a Leafs fan who waved it after TO scored. However...


Has anyone ever thought about this.... maybe if those IDIOT Canes fans didn't try to rile up the Buffalo fans, or go LOOKING for something to ***** about, then the majority of the "problems" seen wouldn't even happen?

We didn't start this. Not by any stretch of the imagination. This dates back at least to the 2006 ECF, and it's all on them.


And as for things like taking your hat off during the anthem, is that any less respectful than the group of idiots that are screaming "GLEASON" during the Anthem? And not one is spoken about that, eh?

I loved the TB game where Martin St. Louis didn't remove his helmet until a bunch of our fans berated him into it.

We've talked about the "Gleason" scream on this board, and I don't know of anyone here who likes it.

John

[kermelbar]

OMG, yes, because I have nothing better to do at a game that I paid good money for than to rile up the gentle-as-baby-bunnies Buffalo fans. :sick:

I look at it this way. I was at Game 1 of that series in '06. I didn't see the worst of the behavior some saw/were victims of, but I did see the worst behavior I had ever seen at a sporting event before. And they won that game! If people will behave like that when they've won a game -- when they should be in good spirits, rather than throwing some really cool pint glasses at the losing team's fans -- well, we're just talking about sh*t on the bottom of my shoe. It will only go downhill from there.

[JohnH]

And how is it that I have NEVER had an altercation with Buffalo fans?

Hell, I even parked in the middle of a huge group of them during the 06 Playoffs, and was wearing all Canes gear. They gave me a bunch of crap, and I gave it back to them.

But guess what, they were just there having a good time giving me crap, and I gave it right back to them.


I guess you weren't the guy I saw get the crap beaten out of him in the parking lot after one of those games.

John

[Kat]

^Or the one driving the mini-van (with kids inside) that I saw a bunch of Buff fans shaking.

As to the national anthem, I do have to say that I am not a fan of anything being yelled during it, including Jussi and Red. I guess I am just old-fashioned that way.

[kermelbar]

As to the national anthem, I do have to say that I am not a fan of anything being yelled during it, including Jussi and Red. I guess I am just old-fashioned that way.

Me, too.

[JohnH]

Me, too.

I don't mind people emphasizing certain words, whether it's our "you see" and "red," the Caps' fans "O!" or the Thrashers' fans "night" (not sure about the significance of the last one?) I do draw a line at people changing the words. Gleason isn't gleaming, folks. JMHO.

John

[DSCanesfan]

If you're looking for trouble, it will usually find you...


Ok, I'll bite. So you're saying that the barfalo fan that tried to climb into the back of my truck in 2006 after I asked him not to only did it because I was looking for trouble? Then when he started to push me out of the way when I was standing on my truck, it was my fault? Or the Sabres' "fans" that were throwing the pint glasses only did it because they were provoked by Canes' fans? Surely you kid.

I will say today, thankfully, I had very little interaction with any barfalo fans. I guess, they were intimidated by the crazy looking kayaker decked out in all red.:laugh:

Too bad we had the breakdowns that we did tonight. A win would have capped off an almost perfect weekend. The Canes gave me a win up in Pittsburgh, I started learning the back deck roll Friday night, got my 1st combat roll of 2010 Saturday on the Neuse at 2500 CFS, had a 2nd good day on the Neuse today with my 2nd combat roll of the year. Offsides none-the-less wooohooo. BTW thanks to the Army Corps of Engineers for the water releases at the dam.:) So a win today would have just been icing on the cake. Oh well.



Go Canes!!!!

Doug

[goalie33]

I didn't see Drunkard 69 or the kilt guy, though. First time in a while.

Drunkard was behind us somewhere in 328/329. Didn't seem to be bothering anyone, but my only evidence for that was he didn't get hauled out by security.

As for the "Gleason" thing, it started somewhere in the NE corner of the lower bowl, and the first time I heard it I found it so silly that I had to help. I'll just go back to yelling "ramparts," though.

In general I thought we were okay, just an off day for Peters. There was some grumbling about the goal that Legace let in, but I chalk that up to frustration with being in a hole from softies; any other game and it's just unfortunate that no one could climb on that puck before it crossed the line.

[StormChaserBH]

I don't mind people emphasizing certain words, whether it's our "you see" and "red," the Caps' fans "O!" or the Thrashers' fans "night" (not sure about the significance of the last one?) I do draw a line at people changing the words. Gleason isn't gleaming, folks. JMHO.

John

It came from the Atlanta Knights, they were an IHL team in the 90's before the Thrashers. I think they still use that name in Atlanta for a youth hockey program.

Since it came up again....I really don't like *any* of the yelling during the anthem, but we've been down that road on this board and others before, so I'm just content being in the minority.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Drunkard was behind us somewhere in 328/329. Didn't seem to be bothering anyone, but my only evidence for that was he didn't get hauled out by security.

LOL. I've never actually been too bothered by him (or kilt guy, but I've never say right beside either of them). Some games he gets thrown out yelling his way up the stairs, and some games I see him but barely notice him. I think it might depend on how many empty cups are stacked up in his cupholder. :lol:

[Doohickie]

God, I ****ing hate Buffalo. But, I'll tell you what...if my team had packed it in after the second period like that I'd be REAL worried about my chances in the playoffs. Not that anyone remotely related to Buffalo has ever had a clue what it took to win.

Second game in less than 24 hours, and they built up enough of a pad that they could rest on their laurels a bit... nope, doesn't bother this Buffalo fan one bit. A little annoyed at Miller's giveaway; that's an ongoing theme that drives me nuts, but a letdown in the 3rd when up by 4 goals? Nah.

I'm not gonna talk trash with you though. Teams hate teams; their fans hate each other, that's what makes rivalries. I grew up in Buffalo but now live near Dallas*, so you can imagine how it is when the Bills and Sabres come to town; the Dallas teams have smacked both teams down in championship games. Still, when I go to a game, I honestly have a good time with the Dallas fans. I've tailgated with perfect strangers, them in their Cowboy colors and me in a Bills jersey.

I think the person that called out the 20-year-old Buffalo fans for picking on a 3-year-old pegged the problem: The "I remember my first beer" syndrome. They're young, they're drunk, therefore they're low-lifes, especially in enemy territory. F-em and move on.


*Why do I live near Dallas? Why do so many Sabres fans live in North Carolina? Why don't we just go home if we like Buffalo so much? Simple: There are no freakin' jobs up there. I might even go back, but my wife has health problems and the cold weather would chew her up. Still, you never forget where you're from, and I'm pretty loyal to my Bills and Sabres. I bet that most of the Sabres fans you run into would prefer to live back home in Buffalo if they had the opportunity to, but it's been a bad economy up there for years, recession or not.


One last little note and then I'll go away and haunt your forum no more (at least for now). In the summer of 2000, a year after Brett Hull ripped the collective soul out of Sabres fans, I met him in at DFW Airport. We were both waiting for our bags so I decided to talk to him. I explained I wasn't expecting to run into anyone famous and had nothing for him to sign, but would he mind signing his boarding card? He said, sure. I told him my nephew plays hockey, so could he address it to him? So he signed it, "To Matt, Good luck in hockey, Brett Hull." So now we were talking, and I finally had to ask him... "Hey, about that goal last year....?"

*Brett rolls eyes* "You know, I still catch **** for that goal! I'll be lining up for a faceoff and the other player shoulders up against me and says, 'That was no goal!' But what can I do? It went in. They called it a good goal. I can't give it back. And besides.... it won the Cup!"

Looking at it from his perspective, I really couldn't hold it against him. So I told him, "Well anyway, thanks for the autograph. I'll take it up to my nephew up in Buffalo when we visit home this summer." :laugh:

He managed a wry smile.

Even though my nephew is graduating college this year, he still has that boarding card on the wall in his old room in my brother's house in Buffalo. He has it wedged into the frame of his NO GOAL poster..... ;)

[aldamon]

Join Date: Oct 2006
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Wow!

[nccanes]

THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS!!!

I am SO SICK of hearing nothing but venom from Canes fans about Buffalo fans. Well, guess what? Plenty of Canes fans are NO BETTER THAN THE BUFFALO FANS!

Has anyone ever thought about this.... maybe if those IDIOT Canes fans didn't try to rile up the Buffalo fans, or go LOOKING for something to ***** about, then the majority of the "problems" seen wouldn't even happen?



I appreciate OTB for posting his experience as well. AND anyone else that cares to point out that there's rude people wearing Canes jerseys (I'm pretty sure Kermel pointed out an obnoxious Canes fan at her last game as well). It indeed DOES happen from time to time when you've got 15,000-18,000 people in once place.

HOWEVER, to suggest that it's Canes fans that go LOOKING for something ***** about is the funniest, most off base way to look at this whole issue.

I've been to all but 2 playoff games at the ESA/RBC center and there has never been (to date) a display as the one that occurred for Game 1 of the ECFs on that weekend. The game where glasses were smashed, where countless observations of awful human behavior were observed, where I decided after Game 1 to NEVER leave my seat during intermission. The behavior that req'd the increase in Raleigh Police presence.

I happened upon our 'scrapbook' from '02 yesterday while cleaning. I have photos of me with Leaf fans (I was situated in the LL N, one of the last rows of STHs and had Leaf fans everywhere around me) and even photos of me with Wings fans. Mingling with opposing and visiting fans is what I do. I am CERTAIN there are nice Sabres fans -- several posters have mentioned it here in this thread. But the sheer number of boorish, drunk, obnoxious (and even violent) Sabre fans have paved the way for their reputation as a whole and it is accurate and well earned.

Whoever wants to dump this on Canes fans, be my guest. But your are kidding yourself....and wrong.

Do I think that if we played the Pens or the Flyers in the playoffs as some point, that we might have a similar situation? Perhaps, but until that happens -- Buffalo "wins" the prize.

Given that the SCFs experience with Oilers fans was SO positive and so respectful on the very heels of the "Buffalo experience" also makes it difficult to blame the Canes fans. If ever there was a franchise that could look down on the Canes fans/franchise it would have been the Oilers. But they didn't. They enjoyed their visit here and we enjoyed them. We felt like they had open minds and allowed us to experience something...together.

As a little footnote, post 2002, there was a lot of Leaf hating going on in Canes fandom, but the 'hatred' was directed at the Leafs themselves. They admitted that they thought, once they saw the matchup with the Canes, that they had ALREADY made the SCFs - that this team/franchise had no chance. There was Gary Roberts v. Erik Cole, there was bad blood ON THE ICE. In the stands there were a few stories to tell, sure. But in 2006, the Sabres and the Canes were two similar teams with much respect on both sides. The fact that the fans created the hatred (and still do) was the root.

I've been to about 8 road games. I NEVER trash talk the home team, players, or fans. I ALWAYS speak to the people seated around me. I typically say something stupid/negative about our team as a 'self-deprecating' comment so they know I'm just there to have a good time and not make their life miserable. I had 1 negative encounter in ATL when I'm sure I was cheering the Canes quite loudly (it was the road game with the largest Caniac presence I've been a part of) and when the Thrashers came back and went ahead he kept tapping me on the knee to gloat. I quietly leaned over and told him if he touched me again I was calling an usher. His g/f advised him to turn around and leave me alone. He did. I tell that story as full disclosure that it isn't THAT HARD to avoid conflict at a visiting arena.

[c-girl]

You're going to find rude obnoxious people in just about any group, including Canes fans, but it seems to me that the per capita Buffalo rude obnoxious people far exceeds any other group I've seen. And the obnoxiousness seems even greater when they are visiting our building. After the Buffalo Invasion of 2006 and the Throwing of the Glasses (what genius in the organization thought giving out breakables to drunk people was a good idea anyway???), dealing with the Oiler fans was a pleasure. Of course there weren't nearly as many of them given the travel distance but the ones I saw were truly there to enjoy a positive experience.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

And now here come the Buffalo faithful. WTF? You (royal you, directed at dregs of fanbase....wait can it be called "dregs" when its the majority? lol) invade our state, our town, our building, and now our board. GO AWAY!

Second game in less than 24 hours, and they built up enough of a pad that they could rest on their laurels a bit... nope, doesn't bother this Buffalo fan one bit. A little annoyed at Miller's giveaway; that's an ongoing theme that drives me nuts, but a letdown in the 3rd when up by 4 goals? Nah.
To one of the worst teams in the league, after they were gutted at the trade deadline, with an AHL defense, and a one-legged goalie? It should. A letdown like that will result in a loss to a team above that little line at #8.

Like I said....not that anyone from Buffalo has a clue about what it takes to win something. :evil:;)

Look forward to seeing you bounced.....whether it be the Pens, Caps, or an earlier more humiliating exit!


I bet that most of the Sabres fans you run into would prefer to live back home in Buffalo if they had the opportunity to,

And therein lies the problem, I suppose. And this is why you exhibit the behavior that makes us hate you. It's hilarious to me that anyone would think the statement "Oh, we'd rather NOT have to live there" would somehow seem like a nice thing to say.

Go make something out of your own city instead of coming to ours and then holding a grudge against us for NOT having a bad economy and taking all of your pent-up anger out on us at sporting events.

That's OK, though....seriously, the years you're all taking off your life from the stress of pining over Buffalo instead of making where you live your home is consolation enough for me.


Didn't I say we weren't having this conversation. Damn.





And yes, this post was totally tongue in cheek....except the part about being worried for the post-season and not knowing what it takes to win.

And we've now discovered what will get me to take 5 minutes to visit LGC from work....a boring meeting (that I'm not leading, for once!), a laptop, and Buffalo.

[Darkwing]

clearly the solution is to wear a finland jersey. had one guy in a buffalo jersey stop me and go "HELL YEA RUUTU" and another person stop me and want to take a pic after the game. easter egg blue is the key to winning!

[Convert]

Was not at this one due to my son having a hockey tournament...But my take on the whole fan/idiot issue is this.

I think every other team's fans should be given one chance to be good fans and not idiots. Its wrong for Canes fans to start berating Buffalo fans unprovoked and vice versa.

The Slug fans have not earned more than one chance--if they start acting like idiots, you know they are "one of them."

On the other hand there are plenty of Slug fans that aren't jerks and aren't idiots and getting lumped in with them--and, hence, getting treated like crap by Canes fans isn't fair to them either. When we start harassing them, unprovoked, we are behaving just like the slugnuts. And that speaks badly for our fans (I do have friends from Buffalo that are great people and very reasonable. They plan carefully before Canes games to try to sit in sections--usually the 200s--where there won't be idiot fans from Buffalo or Carolina. They tell me they have been berated as much as the idiots by some of our fans).

I guess my point is all this is not to apologize for any idiot slug fan---but to remember that they aren't all idiots and don't start treating anyone in a buffalo jersey like an idiot until they act like one.

[superdave]

Last night I did have one Sabres fan tell me I looked gay in my jacket and hat. I just said "thanks for noticing". Of course my wife and daughter were with me at the time. What I should have said was "well, your mother doesn't think so". I wasn't quite quick enough for once in my life.

[kermelbar]

Any fan whose fellow fans wear those ridiculous Buffalo wing hats really has no right to comment on anyone else's fashion. Plus, it seems all the women are stuck in the '80s.

[Kidder]

Last night I did have one Sabres fan tell me I looked gay in my jacket and hat. I just said "thanks for noticing". Of course my wife and daughter were with me at the time. What I should have said was "well, your mother doesn't think so". I wasn't quite quick enough for once in my life.

And there's a perfect example of handling it the proper way. If they want to be idiots, let them.

And if you had said what you really wanted to, all you would have been doing is making the situation worse, and probably gotten into a fight. And would that have really been worth it to be a smart-azz back?

[Doohickie]

Wow!

Yeah, I noticed that as well. Obviously I joined back then to talk some trash but I think there was a moderator approval needed and by the time it got approved I was calmed down.

This thread got linked from the Sabres forum so a few of us are over here taking a peek. In actuality, it's almost a mirror image with two camps, one saying "All the fans from the other side are JERKS!" and the other camp saying "No, some are jerks; some are decent people."

As for those people who say that once you move away from Buffalo you should adopt your new city as home, I'll throw this out there: A lot of people are loyal to the college they attended, years and years and years after they graduated and moved to another city. If someone grew up in Buffalo, the loyalty to the Bills and Sabres is akin to that same kind of loyalty, maybe because there really isn't a "major league" college sports program in town. Buffalo ex-pats may call their new city home, and really, we've moved on and accepted it, but when our "alma mater" comes into town, we're gonna pull for them.

[SoCalcaniac]

I wanna just plaster the Canes. If they would have just won this friggin game, we would be having an entirely different discussion.

Worse than that, I spent the early morning in the gym to let this one "go" and the rest of the morning in a calming myself down state, since I will always hate to lose to that bunch and now I'm just irked.

First off, it's all well and good that OTB and Kidder have had these outstanding experiences with BUF fans-- bravo, let's throw you both a party. But I'd take exception as other have with Kidder's assertion that people are "looking for trouble" with these tools from Buffalo, and that's right, I'm lumping the whole lot together--- I don't care if you're Mother Teresa and you're wearing those colors/that jersey, you're from there, and my past experience with people from Buffalo has required me to now lump the whole bunch in one pot. That's the breaks, and it's not changing for me. Oh well.

Several people have talked about 2006 and that experience with that fan base. I personally think, that the people who now are harassing fans are definitely feeling some sort of post-traumatic effects. I don't condone anyone stooping to BUF fan behavior, but I get where it may be coming from. It's what a good friend of ours who I know is suffering from post trauma from 2006 when his wife, afer Game 1 ECF's had a glass thrown right at her feet while the infamous car sped by and nearly hit her; The mentality is "hit or be hit". No, its not right, in my opinion, but unless you experienced what happened during that series, there's never going to be a time you go to a game where we play the Sabres and you're not thinking "Something is going to happen". I go to games because I love this team, I support them and I'm a season ticket holder, and I enjoy the RBCC and enjoy seeing all the people we know & enjoy the games. That's so not possible when that team is in our bldg.

On the flip side, like nccanes said - it's enjoyable to have other teams in the NHL in our bldg and their fans--- I know we've not played PHI yet in the playoffs, however, I find it difficult to believe that their "notorious" fan base would even come close to BUF. The gold standard in fandom will always remain EDM for me. That group that came down here, those people who literally out in the parking lots after their dream died, hugging and shaking hands with people and congratulating us, and chatting about their experience here while clearly still devastated? There will never be a group of people like those. So any measure of a fanbase will be in two distinct camps- The Buffalo people and the EDM people. Not gonna change for me in this life.

ETA: this is pretty rich; someone linked this thread to a SLUG message board/fan forum? Why do they even care what the lowly Canes fans are doing or saying? If you and your team are so wonderful, go on and be "Wonderful" together. Trolls.

[superdave]

And there's a perfect example of handling it the proper way. If they want to be idiots, let them.

And if you had said what you really wanted to, all you would have been doing is making the situation worse, and probably gotten into a fight. And would that have really been worth it to be a smart-azz back?

No, the issue is that they come in our building and are disrespectfull, not that I handled it the right way. You go into the opponents building, wear your colors, chear your team, and don't lip off. I didn't start a thing.

[Doohickie]

There will never be a group of people like those. So any measure of a fanbase will be in two distinct camps- The Buffalo people and the EDM people. Not gonna change for me in this life.

Part of the difference lies in the expectations. Buffalo fans sincerely believed they would beat Carolina. Edmonton was a low seed that knew it would be a miracle if they won.

ETA: this is pretty rich; someone linked this thread to a SLUG message board/fan forum? Why do they even care what the lowly Canes fans are doing or saying? If you and your team are so wonderful, go on and be "Wonderful" together. Trolls.

I'm not sure really why it was linked. I came over expecting to see... I don't know what, but what I found was just normal folks, mostly, anyways.

I don't condone anyone stooping to BUF fan behavior,

And yet, you spew the line of hate. Do you see that as in any way inconsistent?

[ontheboards]

I wanna just plaster the Canes. If they would have just won this friggin game, we would be having an entirely different discussion.

Worse than that, I spent the early morning in the gym to let this one "go" and the rest of the morning in a calming myself down state, since I will always hate to lose to that bunch and now I'm just irked.

First off, it's all well and good that OTB and Kidder have had these outstanding experiences with BUF fans-- bravo, let's throw you both a party. But I'd take exception as other have with Kidder's assertion that people are "looking for trouble" with these tools from Buffalo, and that's right, I'm lumping the whole lot together--- I don't care if you're Mother Teresa and you're wearing those colors/that jersey, you're from there, and my past experience with people from Buffalo has required me to now lump the whole bunch in one pot. That's the breaks, and it's not changing for me. Oh well.

Several people have talked about 2006 and that experience with that fan base. I personally think, that the people who now are harassing fans are definitely feeling some sort of post-traumatic effects. I don't condone anyone stooping to BUF fan behavior, but I get where it may be coming from. It's what a good friend of ours who I know is suffering from post trauma from 2006 when his wife, afer Game 1 ECF's had a glass thrown right at her feet while the infamous car sped by and nearly hit her; The mentality is "hit or be hit". No, its not right, in my opinion, but unless you experienced what happened during that series, there's never going to be a time you go to a game where we play the Sabres and you're not thinking "Something is going to happen". I go to games because I love this team, I support them and I'm a season ticket holder, and I enjoy the RBCC and enjoy seeing all the people we know & enjoy the games. That's so not possible when that team is in our bldg.

On the flip side, like nccanes said - it's enjoyable to have other teams in the NHL in our bldg and their fans--- I know we've not played PHI yet in the playoffs, however, I find it difficult to believe that their "notorious" fan base would even come close to BUF. The gold standard in fandom will always remain EDM for me. That group that came down here, those people who literally out in the parking lots after their dream died, hugging and shaking hands with people and congratulating us, and chatting about their experience here while clearly still devastated? There will never be a group of people like those. So any measure of a fanbase will be in two distinct camps- The Buffalo people and the EDM people. Not gonna change for me in this life.

ETA: this is pretty rich; someone linked this thread to a SLUG message board/fan forum? Why do they even care what the lowly Canes fans are doing or saying? If you and your team are so wonderful, go on and be "Wonderful" together. Trolls.
WTF???? I posted a blip about my experiences YESTERDAY, at one Buffalo game, and you're chewing on it today. My comment was made to illustrate a point that not all fan nations are bad and not all fan nations are good. But hey, if you plan on attacking Buffaloons and some good folks who post here, have at it...

[nccanes]

Part of the difference lies in the expectations. Buffalo fans sincerely believed they would beat Carolina. Edmonton was a low seed that knew it would be a miracle if they won.


I can't imagine anyone actually buys that as a 'reason' for bad human behavior? You don't think that the Edmonton fans believe their team could win? Sure they were the 8th seed.....from a different conference and had won 12 games thus far and suddenly it was going to be a miracle to win 4 more? Didn't they beat the Wing and the Sharks?

I'm sorry - but you don't suddenly become a different person because you think your team might win. That's bizarre thinking.

I tell my kids all the time, you are who project you are. If you are willing to step in front of a 40-something woman who is merely walking to the restroom, block her path, and scream in her face "you don't know hockey, you know NASCAR" - then that's who you are. It has NOTHING to do with how good you think your hockey team is.

If you are the kind of person that gets in their car, throws an entire beer on a person simply walking in the parking lot, and then SPEED OFF (among pedestrians), then that is who you are.

If there were Canes fans that said/did awful things yesterday or back in 2006, same thing - that's part of who you are. Own it - don't make excuses for it.

But no matter how many posts are written by the apologists, *my* experience remains the same - that the fans associated with Buffalo are the most unpleasant that have been at the RBC. Mob mentality at its "finest".

[TheReaper49]

Look. There is nothing wrong with remaining a fan of the sports team from your home town. What I think is asinine are the people who leave their city because it sucks (be it Buffahole, Pittsburgh, Philly, or anywhere in Jersey or Upstate New York) relocate to a new, better place and hate on it. Root for your team, fine, but don’t constantly bash the area that is providing you a haven from the craphole you left, the folks who live here, and the fans who have the sense to embrace the local team.

And you can whine all you want about how you left because of the local economy. Well, there’s a reason why the economy sucks in Buffalo, because no companies want to be located there. Why not? Well, after getting a good look at the quality of human beings that hale from that region, I have a pretty good idea. Pretty sorry talent pool to draw from…

[Dammit100]

In no way am I condoning Buffalo fans behavior, but wouldn't you have a sh**ty attitude towards sports if the following happened to your sports town:

-Your NBA franchise leaves to become the beacon of suck that is the Clippers.
-Scott Norwood
-getting blanked by the Skins in the first half en route to losing super bowl #2
-Cowboys PASTING them, leading to Super Bowl loss #3
-Cowboys coming back for more easy pickins, like Tiger Woods at a Vegas hotel for SB loss #4
-Brett Hull's skate (waaaaaaa)
-Music City Miracle (which was a lateral, get over it)
-Having consecutive captains leave town as soon as free agency hits
-winning a president's trophy but not getting it done in the playoffs AGAIN
-signing T.O..... because THAT'S a good idea
-seeing your NFL franchise test the waters in Toronto by playing home games in the Rogers Centre, as an obvious bit of foreshadowing
-creating an ATROCIOUS banana slug logo, which gets mocked by all fan bases. Then, Sabres fans shell out $$$ for those jerseys, only to have them scrapped for the upcoming 2010 season, screwing their fanbase out of even more $$


Then again, I simply find all of this to be hilarious fodder to throw back at the d-bags who come down here.

[caneshockeychick]

Part of the difference lies in the expectations. Buffalo fans sincerely believed they would beat Carolina. Edmonton was a low seed that knew it would be a miracle if they won.
Bull$hit!! and nccanes said it much, much better than I ever would regarding this asinine statement


And yet, you spew the line of hate. Do you see that as in any way inconsistent?

I see it as there's a big difference than talking about it ON A MESSAGEBOARD then getting up in someone's face when you are visiting THEIR arena

[ontheboards]

All I kept thinking yesterday was how sad it must be to be Buffalo/Niagra Region sports fans-- even the Saints have won a Super Bowl title :lol:

[TheMadCap]

Brothers and Sisters, Brothers and Sisters PLEASE!!!!!

can we all agree there are people of crass behavior in all cities and towns, and it sucks having to deal with them? Let's not cheapen ourselves by roping the good and bad together.

In the grand scheme of things, this matters so little in our lives...

[SoCalcaniac]

WTF???? I posted a blip about my experiences YESTERDAY, at one Buffalo game, and you're chewing on it today. My comment was made to illustrate a point that not all fan nations are bad and not all fan nations are good. But hey, if you plan on attacking Buffaloons and some good folks who post here, have at it....

My post was not attacking you- I was making a point- you and another poster had great fan experiences with BUF fans. That's all well & good. The objection I had was in Kidder's post that normal fans were "inviting trouble" from BUF fans. I should have separated my commentary to specifically address Kidder's comments.My Apologies to you specifically because I'm glad you had a good experience and no interaction issues, but in this case, and many cases when we speak about this matchup--- that's a rarity. Again- Apologizes OTB to lump you into another statement.

Part of the difference lies in the expectations. Buffalo fans sincerely believed they would beat Carolina. Edmonton was a low seed that knew it would be a miracle if they won.



Yeah, there's that whole deal with expectation and the now legend Buffalo sense of entitlement. That's why they play the games. Especially when the logic is completely skewed. EDM was a "low" seed but they were seeded and they beat great teams to get to the Finals. It doesn't matter where you're at standings-wise when you're in; the old adage applies "anything can happen" and it almost did for EDM. But all this doesn't explain why this would be a "good reason" for horrific behavior. It never made sense when it was happening back in 2006 and it certainly does not make an ounce of sense today. But I guess that's a good excuse to hang on to.

[nccanes]

In the grand scheme of things, this matters so little in our lives...

This is true. But then again, the same can be said in regard to the entire reason for this boards existence. :lol: At least as compared to real-life real-world concerns, worries, and challenges.

[caneshockeychick]

What's the saying...."A few bad apples spoil the bunch..." Yeah, that ;)

Although I guess we could turn that around and go "it's hard to see the good ones surrounded by all the bad ones" ;)

[TheReaper49]

What's the saying...."A few bad apples spoil the bunch..." Yeah, that ;)

Although I guess we could turn that around and go "it's hard to see the good ones surrounded by all the bad ones" ;)

Yeah. It's kinda like the smiley face on that turd in nccanes avatar. (at least I think that's what it is)

[c-girl]

Root for your team, fine, but don’t constantly bash the area that is providing you a haven from the craphole you left, the folks who live here, and the fans who have the sense to embrace the local team.


As a native Raleighite whose ancestors have been here for generations, I could write a book on this. Unless you (the royal you) have been here for 20 or 30 years, you can't imagine how much this area has changed. Just last week, someone in my office who moved here from New Jersey was complaining to me about "your crowded schools", "your traffic" and "you crappy drivers." My response was "We didn't have crowded schools or traffic until all of you moved here" and "How do you know it's the natives who are the crappy drivers - maybe it's the New Jerseyites." Nobody issued a gilt-edged invitation to anybody to move here. If you're here to take advantage of jobs, lower house prices, better weather, or any of the other myriad reasons to be here, don't complain or act disdainful while you're here.

BUT there are advantages to being a growing area. Concerts (I remember when we had to drive to Greensboro to see anybody), bigger museums, better stores, AN NHL TEAM. It's a trade off.

Disclaimer - Not talking about anybody here, just in general.

[ontheboards]

My post was not attacking you- I was making a point- you and another poster had great fan experiences with BUF fans. That's all well & good. The objection I had was in Kidder's post that normal fans were "inviting trouble" from BUF fans. I should have separated my commentary to specifically address Kidder's comments.My Apologies to you specifically because I'm glad you had a good experience and no interaction issues, but in this case, and many cases when we speak about this matchup--- that's a rarity. Again- Apologizes OTB to lump you into another statement.

You're a good egg, SoCal. I had hoped it was a situation of someone speaking passionately versus a pot shot. Thanks for the clarification and apology.

[Doohickie]

I can't imagine anyone actually buys that as a 'reason' for bad human behavior?

Yeah, a reason, not a justification or excuse.

Look at it this way: You're a fan of a team that barely squeaked into the playoffs, managed to get to the finals, face it: You didn't expect your Cinderella team to get this far, so when the finally lose, you can hold your head high and be gracious to the winners.

Or: You're a fan of a team that had a really, really good season, up against a historically weak team, looking forward to a finals appearance. When the David knocks off your Goliath team, you feel betrayed and bitter (especially since your city hasn't won a championship since before the Super Bowl started) and if you've had a few beers, the worst among you get ugly.

...

I wish I could say that all the folks from the city of my birth were always on their best behavior, but I can't control them. You can't control which city you're born in, just like you can't choose your parents.

[KaniacFever]

And how is it that I have NEVER had an altercation with Buffalo fans?

Hell, I even parked in the middle of a huge group of them during the 06 Playoffs, and was wearing all Canes gear. They gave me a bunch of crap, and I gave it back to them.

But guess what, they were just there having a good time giving me crap, and I gave it right back to them.

Told them in the end to enjoy the game, and they offered me a beer to drink on the way in.

If you're looking for trouble, it will usually find you...

Are you male? I've found that these asshats tend to speak bile towards children and females. And I'm first hand knowledge of that. I'll be walking with my boyfriend, minding our own damn business, and yet I'm getting all kinds of bile thrown at me. Why are they not saying such things to my boyfriend? Answer because they are COWARDS.

I'm sorry, but I had a 300 lb man, come mere inches to punching me, a 100 lb female b/c I celebrated a CANES goal in the RBC center.

You can get on your high horse all you want, but I've experienced crap first hand minding my own business.

If I was in HSBC wearing Canes gear, fine throw bile my way all you want. The fact is that I'm in MY HOUSE and I shouldn't have to put up with that sh!t. If I were to go to another teams arena, no way in hell would I act anything like those asshats do. Its something called RESPECT which I have yet to see them from these clowns.

[TheReaper49]

Yeah, a reason, not a justification or excuse.

Look at it this way: You're a fan of a team that barely squeaked into the playoffs, managed to get to the finals, face it: You didn't expect your Cinderella team to get this far, so when the finally lose, you can hold your head high and be gracious to the winners.

Or: You're a fan of a team that had a really, really good season, up against a historically weak team, looking forward to a finals appearance. When the David knocks off your Goliath team, you feel betrayed and bitter (especially since your city hasn't won a championship since before the Super Bowl started) and if you've had a few beers, the worst among you get ugly.

...

I wish I could say that all the folks from the city of my birth were always on their best behavior, but I can't control them. You can't control which city you're born in, just like you can't choose your parents.
No, you can't choose your parents. But it is a choice to act like a complete d-bag to the foster parents who take you in once you run away from the losers who birthed you.

[Doohickie]

That's why they play the games.

Trust me, fans from Buffalo understand this better than just about anybody. Four Superbowls, no rings? OUCH.

Add that to all the other negativism that's associated with Buffalo and being from there, and yeah.... some of us kind of crack. Sorry about that. I wish they wouldn't.

You can't excuse it; neither can I. But I can kind of see where it comes from.

[Doohickie]

No, you can't choose your parents. But it is a choose to act like a complete d-bag to the foster parents who take you in once you run away from the losers who birthed you.

I agree with you. But bear in mind: I'm not one of those d-bags; I've never been to Raleigh.

[KaniacFever]

Drunkard was behind us somewhere in 328/329. Didn't seem to be bothering anyone, but my only evidence for that was he didn't get hauled out by security.



He sat behind a friend of mine. Apparently he would say 'OJ Simpson' every now and then. Didn't bother my friend in the least bit. He said he got enjoyment out of him since the game was so bad.

[Doohickie]

If I was in HSBC wearing Canes gear, fine throw bile my way all you want. The fact is that I'm in MY HOUSE and I shouldn't have to put up with that sh!t. If I were to go to another teams arena, no way in hell would I act anything like those asshats do. Its something called RESPECT which I have yet to see them from these clowns.

Then sell out your sacred RBC and you won't have to deal with outsiders.

Just sayin'.

[superdave]

For me right now it's...

1a. Buffalo Fans
1b. ch.com moderators
2. Pittsburgh Fans
3. Osama Bin Laden

then I kind of just lose interest

[Doohickie]

For me right now it's...

1a. Buffalo Fans
1b. ch.com moderators
2. Pittsburgh Fans
3. Osama Bin Laden

then I kind of just lose interest

At least we made an impression. ;)

...and with that, I'll leave now. I don't really mean to stir up trouble, I suppose it's just part of my nature as a Buffalonian.

Good luck next year.

[Greensboro Hurricanes]

Then sell out your sacred RBC and you won't have to deal with outsiders.

Just sayin'.

Sell out HSBC and it won't be so hard to tell where the game is when you guys play the Leafs.

Buffalo has earned the reputation. They seem to actually enjoy it.

Oh, and I love people yelling things during the anthem, but I'm kind of tired of the anthem anwyay.

[nccanes]

Yeah, a reason, not a justification or excuse.


We are talking about adult people. You either have the capability to control your actions or you don't. Period. You either think throwing beer on someone is funny or you don't. You either think destroying property is funny or you don't. I don't care what play on words you want to use.


Look at it this way: You're a fan of a team that barely squeaked into the playoffs, managed to get to the finals, face it: You didn't expect your Cinderella team to get this far, so when the finally lose, you can hold your head high and be gracious to the winners.

Or: You're a fan of a team that had a really, really good season, up against a historically weak team, looking forward to a finals appearance. When the David knocks off your Goliath team, you feel betrayed and bitter (especially since your city hasn't won a championship since before the Super Bowl started) and if you've had a few beers, the worst among you get ugly.


Thank you for the history lesson, I think I got (and disputed) that the first time.

The funny thing is, Buffalo may indeed have an inferiority complex about things....but so does Raleigh. We have that little chip on our shoulders that people have been poking at for over 10 years now. NASCAR, Redneck, Mayberry, etc. And what the fans do here (with noted exceptions) is roll out the red carpet. Kill 'em with kindness. Not scream in their faces about how they don't know what the eff they are talking about.

Among my photos from '02, I found one of 2 guys video taping our tailgate BBQ. They had come down for the Leafs games (which also fell on the weekends) and decided to come back for the Finals, even though the Leafs lost. One was wearing a Team Canada jersey, the other a Canes jersey. They loved it.

I met 2 Edmonton fans on the day of Game 1 when I was at the box office meeting a friend to hand over tickets. They were wide-eyed and smiling a treat to chat with. They'd just gotten into town and had already been told how much people appreciated how nice and friendly they were....as compared to the Buffalo experience.

And now I'm boring myself -- so my apologies to those I bored a page or so ago. :lol:

[ButtersSaysNo]

Then sell out your sacred RBC and you won't have to deal with outsiders.

Just sayin'.

That is the price the Canes have to pay for playing in an area where there are many many things to do, you are going to have a hard time getting a full house for most games.

Now, when you live in a place like your sacred Buffalo, there isn't much to do. You can go to a slugs game, go to a bills game, take a barrel over the edge of Niagra Falls hoping to end the misery of living in your sacred Buffalo or go to a local bar to try to drink away the fact that one lives in your sacred Buffalo.

Just sayin'.

[caneshockeychick]

Then sell out your sacred RBC and you won't have to deal with outsiders.

Just sayin'.


ahhhh...but then we wouldn't have any reason to b.itch about Buffaslug fans anymore ;)

[KaniacFever]

In no way am I condoning Buffalo fans behavior, but wouldn't you have a sh**ty attitude towards sports if the following happened to your sports town:

-Your NBA franchise leaves to become the beacon of suck that is the Clippers.


My NFL Franchise (Cleveland Browns) moved to Baltimore. That doens't give me the right to act like an a$$hole to other NFL fans or even the Baltimore team and their fans. Sure to this day I still hate the owner, but I would never attend a Ravens game in Baltimore and pull the crap I have that Slug fans do.

[KaniacFever]

Then sell out your sacred RBC and you won't have to deal with outsiders.

Just sayin'.

Too bad your building is FULL on Leafs fans when the leafs come to town. You have NO f*cking room to talk.

Secondly, if I were to go to an oppossing team's building. No way in HELL would I act anything like these idiots. No way in HELL would I throw beer, cuss, or anything else to young children, females and males alike. I would cheer for my team in a respectable manner. Something Buffalonians don't even know the definition of.

Thirdly, you and all the other assclowns can say whatever it is you want to me. I'm from Philly I can take it. My point is that when I'm in MY BUILDING, I shouldn't have to stick up for myself. If I was in HSBC wearing Canes stuff, fine, just have a little REPSECT.

And last but not least, I'm done with you. Go on back to your Slug board and talk about how the Canes fans are nothing but redneck, nascar, loving beatches.

[Kat]

Yeah, a reason, not a justification or excuse.

Look at it this way: You're a fan of a team that barely squeaked into the playoffs, managed to get to the finals, face it: You didn't expect your Cinderella team to get this far, so when the finally lose, you can hold your head high and be gracious to the winners.

Or: You're a fan of a team that had a really, really good season, up against a historically weak team, looking forward to a finals appearance. When the David knocks off your Goliath team, you feel betrayed and bitter (especially since your city hasn't won a championship since before the Super Bowl started) and if you've had a few beers, the worst among you get ugly.
.


Last time I checked that season we were NOT the Cinderella team. We even had home ice advantage, and a previous Stanley Cup appearance (after the last Buffalo one, in fact). So the David/Goliath argument doesn't really fly, sorry.

[nccanes]

I was going to include that but I've been posting too much in this thread. :lol: Also, this 'issue' with Sabres fans began before the puck even dropped for Game 1. It's not like they got surly after Game 7. :lol:

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Or: You're a fan of a team that had a really, really good season, up against a historically weak team, looking forward to a finals appearance. When the David knocks off your Goliath team, you feel betrayed and bitter (especially since your city hasn't won a championship since before the Super Bowl started) and if you've had a few beers, the worst among you get ugly.

If Sabres fans were actually hockey fans, they'd have known we weren't a David that year. Sure, Buffalo won the President's trophy....now go back and look who one of the biggest challengers was for it. "Historically" didn't matter for sh*t in 05-06...the first year of the New NHL era. We were at or near the top of the standings all year. Our slight skid came in March and we obviously kicked the Hab's a** after we put Cam in and Jersey's a** soundly. Maybe they can pay attention next time so they won't be so surprised they can't control themselves.
Then sell out your sacred RBC and you won't have to deal with outsiders.
We're not the team who a) has declared bankruptcy and b) has Canada 10 minutes away keeping us in business. Your building wasn't full, even WITH the Canadians, when your team was in 26th place, either.

But we know....we're different because we're a team in the South and ice doesn't naturally occur here therefore we don't even deserve hockey, much less the Cup that we stole from you. :roll:

[Kat]

If Sabres fans were actually hockey fans, they'd have known we weren't a David that year. Sure, Buffalo won the President's trophy....now go back and look who one of the biggest challengers was for it. "Historically" didn't matter for sh*t in 05-06...the first year of the New NHL era. We were at or near the top of the standings all year. Our slight skid came in March and we obviously kicked the Hab's a** after we put Cam in and Jersey's a** soundly. Maybe they can pay attention next time so they won't be so surprised they can't control themselves.

We're not the team who a) has declared bankruptcy and b) has Canada 10 minutes away keeping us in business. Your building wasn't full, even WITH the Canadians, when your team was in 26th place, either.

But we know....we're different because we're a team in the South and ice doesn't naturally occur here therefore we don't even deserve hockey, much less the Cup that we stole from you. :roll:

E, sorry, Buff didn't win the President's Trophy that year. Detroit did. Buffalo was 5th in the NHL, we were 3rd (Dallas had the tie-breaker).
From Yahoo Sports NHL Standings:

Eastern Conference
<TABLE class=yspwhitebg border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=ysptblthbody1><TD colSpan=2>Team</TD><TD >Pts</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD height=18>1.</TD><TD>z-Ottawa (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/ott)</TD><TD align=right>113 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD height=18>2.</TD><TD>y-Carolina (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/car)</TD><TD align=right>112 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD height=18>3.</TD><TD>y-New Jersey (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/njd)</TD><TD align=right>101 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD height=18>4.</TD><TD>x-Buffalo (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/buf)</TD><TD align=right>110 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Western Conference<TABLE class=yspwhitebg border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR>Team</TD><TD>Pts</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD height=18>1.</TD><TD>z-Detroit (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/det)</TD><TD align=right>124 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD height=18>2.</TD><TD>y-Dallas (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/dal)</TD><TD align=right>112 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD height=18>3.</TD><TD>y-Calgary (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/cgy)</TD><TD align=right>103 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD height=18>4.</TD><TD>x-Nashville (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/nas)</TD><TD align=right>106 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD>

[nccanes]

No problem Kat (but it was SHC, not me :) ) but I was thinking that she was combining 06 and 07 finished for the Sabres.

[Kat]

No problem Kat (but it was SHC, not me :) ) but I was thinking that she was combining 06 and 07 finished for the Sabres.

Oops sorry! I should have known better, really. :)

Sorry for the wonky formatting, too. Yahoo copied it over as an HTML table and I tried to edit it once, but I left an end tag on it so it wound up even wonkier, and with no editing capability.

[Kidder]

We've talked about the "Gleason" scream on this board, and I don't know of anyone here who likes it.

John

Actually, for one, SoCal has stated that she thought it was great. Check the 3/4 Ottawa game thread. Post #63. And I quote...

"The "twilight's last Gleason" thing was GREAT."


Also, from livingthedream , Post #40.

Quote: "Oh, not sure if they shared this on the broadcast. During the anthem, folks sang "at the twilight's last GLEASON"

AWESOME"

[nccanes]

I'm like Gboro Hurricanes -- I'm over the anthem (not anti-anthem, just in the current form in sporting events).

I laughed at the "Gleason" the first time I heard it, but iirc, it was just after the Olympics and his silver medal. Guess it's stuck around, I haven't managed to get to a game early enough for the anthems since. Though I think if someone disliked "Gleason" they should dislike every other thing that's not simply singing along or listening quietly. None of them are emphasizing the words or syllables for their intended meaning.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

E, sorry, Buff didn't win the President's Trophy that year. Detroit did. Buffalo was 5th in the NHL, we were 3rd (Dallas had the tie-breaker).
From Yahoo Sports NHL Standings:

Eastern Conference
<TABLE class=yspwhitebg cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysptblthbody1><TD colSpan=2>Team</TD><TD>Pts</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD height=18>1.</TD><TD>z-Ottawa (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/ott)</TD><TD align=right>113 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD height=18>2.</TD><TD>y-Carolina (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/car)</TD><TD align=right>112 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD height=18>3.</TD><TD>y-New Jersey (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/njd)</TD><TD align=right>101 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD height=18>4.</TD><TD>x-Buffalo (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/buf)</TD><TD align=right>110 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Western Conference<TABLE class=yspwhitebg cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR>Team</TD><TD>Pts</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD height=18>1.</TD><TD>z-Detroit (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/det)</TD><TD align=right>124 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD height=18>2.</TD><TD>y-Dallas (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/dal)</TD><TD align=right>112 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD height=18>3.</TD><TD>y-Calgary (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/cgy)</TD><TD align=right>103 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD height=18>4.</TD><TD>x-Nashville (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/nas)</TD><TD align=right>106 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD>

LMAO!!! Thank you!!

So, they thought they were Goliath to a team with a BETTER RECORD? Brilliant!

Were I not at work saving lives *ahem* I would have been able to think long enough to realize we had home ice. :lol:

[JohnH]

Actually, for one, SoCal has stated that she thought it was great. Check the 3/4 Ottawa game thread. Post #63. And I quote...

"The "twilight's last Gleason" thing was GREAT."


Also, from livingthedream , Post #40.

Quote: "Oh, not sure if they shared this on the broadcast. During the anthem, folks sang "at the twilight's last GLEASON"

AWESOME"

Okay. I modify the comment, then. Most of us don't seem to like it. It doesn't bother me all that much, but I won't participate in it.

John

[dakuwan]

E, sorry, Buff didn't win the President's Trophy that year. Detroit did. Buffalo was 5th in the NHL, we were 3rd (Dallas had the tie-breaker).
From Yahoo Sports NHL Standings:

Eastern Conference
<table class="yspwhitebg" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="ysptblthbody1"><td colspan="2">Team</td><td>Pts</td></tr><tr class="ysprow1"><td height="18">1.</td><td>z-Ottawa (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/ott)</td><td align="right">113 </td></tr><tr class="ysprow2"><td height="18">2.</td><td>y-Carolina (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/car)</td><td align="right">112 </td></tr><tr class="ysprow1"><td height="18">3.</td><td>y-New Jersey (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/njd)</td><td align="right">101 </td></tr><tr class="ysprow2"><td height="18">4.</td><td>x-Buffalo (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/buf)</td><td align="right">110 </td></tr></tbody></table>

Western ConferenceTeam<table class="yspwhitebg" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td>Pts</td></tr><tr class="ysprow1"><td height="18">1.</td><td>z-Detroit (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/det)</td><td align="right">124 </td></tr><tr class="ysprow2"><td height="18">2.</td><td>y-Dallas (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/dal)</td><td align="right">112 </td></tr><tr class="ysprow1"><td height="18">3.</td><td>y-Calgary (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/cgy)</td><td align="right">103 </td></tr><tr class="ysprow2"><td height="18">4.</td><td>x-Nashville (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/nas)</td><td align="right">106 </td></tr></tbody></table>

Facts dont fit into the fantasy that Buffalo has created for themselves that year.

Here's my .02

All the crap that came about, which we all know about and has been rehashed here, from 06 was widely reported on Canes and Sabres boards. Since then they get bounced the next year when they actually had a good team and were favorites and had their last real shot. So they lose to a "historically" weak team as characterized before by the buffalo fan one year, incorrectly as Kat pointed out, and then get bounced the next. Buffalo fans latch on to the fact that they swept us in the regular season that year after losing to us in the playoffs. We keep talking about how bad they are while they're still acting out and hurt from losing to us the year before and they keep reading it and stirs them up. (Why they seem to have no real venom for the team that knocked them out the year they should've won i dont know.) So they get more bitter and more bitter. Every game we talk about some buffalo fan, usually deservedly so, and someone links to us from their boards and stirs them up again. The old adage holds true, you usually hear complaints more than satisfied, so we and they hear about the bad apples.

In the end I think Buffalo fans have just latched onto the idea that we think they're the worst fans and they love it so they do everything they can to live up to it. Since they didnt get the Cup and frankly almost always have everything going against them (bad owner, bankruptcy, bad economy, players bolting, Leaf fans invading their building, Super Bowls, etc) they're enjoying the fact they can tick us off and do everything they can to do that. It's like a badge of courage to them and they'll stick it to us any chance they get because frankly what else do they have till something up there changes.

Nothings going to change at this point. I dont see Buffalo fans reforming and being respectful even if they do somehow finally get the Cup and redemption for decades of mediocrity. Trying to tick off fans of a team thats done as much and more as they have in a fraction of the time they've been around is becoming part of who they are and who they'll be.

I just do my best to ignore them and enjoy my team. The one thats had 2 Stanley Cup finals appearances and one Stanley Cup in 13 years or existence instead of dwelling on the one thats had two finals appearances separated by 24 years and no Cups in over 29 years of existence.

[caniac97]

Okay. I modify the comment, then. Most of us don't seem to like it. It doesn't bother me all that much, but I won't participate in it.

John

MOST would imply a majority and I would have to disagree with you there.

[aldamon]

I think we need an official Slugs fan complaints thread instead of 4 every year.

My NFL Franchise (Cleveland Browns)

:beer:

[Caniac]

The complaint department is in the back, next to the portable toilet.

[livinthedream]

Actually, for one, SoCal has stated that she thought it was great. Check the 3/4 Ottawa game thread. Post #63. And I quote...

"The "twilight's last Gleason" thing was GREAT."


Also, from livingthedream , Post #40.

Quote: "Oh, not sure if they shared this on the broadcast. During the anthem, folks sang "at the twilight's last GLEASON"

AWESOME"

Since you chose to drag me into this conversation, I'll state for the record that I did think it was AWESOME to hear fans chant "Gleason" on the first game of his return from his silver medal performance in the Olympics.

And not that it's anyone else's business, but personally I didn't chant it myself, nor have I chanted it since, nor do I yell "JUSSI" or "RED" during the anthem, although I really don't care if others do.

Otherwise, please keep me out of this conversation. I have no desire to be a part of any of it.

[Caniac]

For someone named kidder, you sure take things seriously. :spin:

[Kidder]

MOST would imply a majority and I would have to disagree with you there.

Just so I don't misunderstand what you're saying... you like, and condone, fans yelling "Gleason" during the Anthem?

[kermelbar]

For someone named kidder, you sure take things seriously. :spin:

Maybe "Sh!t-Stirrer" or "Slug-in-Canes-Clothing" would have been better choices ... :)

[Doohickie]

Last time I checked that season we were NOT the Cinderella team. We even had home ice advantage, and a previous Stanley Cup appearance (after the last Buffalo one, in fact). So the David/Goliath argument doesn't really fly, sorry.

Ummm.... Edmonton was the Cinderella team I was referring to.




...and I'll even refrain from the obvious Ugly Stepsister remark since I know this lot will turn it into some kind of "I'm rubber, you're glue" nonsense.

[caniac97]

Just so I don't misunderstand what you're saying... you like, and condone, fans yelling "Gleason" during the Anthem?

Yep, Gleason, Jussi, and Red. also like yelling ramparts but they stopped yelling that because it offended UNC-CH fans.

[Dammit100]

us in 328 started yelling "ramparts" one playoff year, and have kept it a playoff-only tradition.

the "GLEASON" thing, I cannot take credit (or blame) for. I think it was some guys in 317 or so, and a bunch of us found it hilarious, so we've kept it going.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

And 9 posts later......

Ummm.... Edmonton was the Cinderella team I was referring to.




...and I'll even refrain from the obvious Ugly Stepsister remark since I know this lot will turn it into some kind of "I'm rubber, you're glue" nonsense.

But, apparently, you're sticking to the erroneous David/Goliath comparison. :lol:


And yes, we enjoy this and are out of the playoffs and thus bored so don't expect it to end anytime soon. :beatup:

[Doohickie]

But, apparently, you're sticking to the erroneous David/Goliath comparison. :lol:

From your perspective, maybe, but from the perspective of the pumped up Buffalo fans that year, not so much. Buffalo fans didn't take the Hurricanes seriously, just as Goliath did not take David seriously. In both cases, the haughty were toppled. How is that erroneous?

[SouthernHockeyChick]

David was an underdog. The Hurricanes were not.

[caneshockeychick]

At least we made an impression. ;)

...and with that, I'll leave now. I don't really mean to stir up trouble, I suppose it's just part of my nature as a Buffalonian.

Good luck next year.

I thought this Slug fan said he was leaving....alas...he remains :lol:

[IceSun]

Goliath was the clear favorite.

Not sure how Buffalo is given the impression that they should have come in mightily and were overlooking "David" Carolina when:

a) Buffalo ("Goliath") finished the season with a respectable, but 3rd place 110 points
b) Carolina ("David") finished the season in 2nd place at 112 points and 1 point behind President's Trophy winner Ottawa (which they were well on-track to winning outright before Brooks Orpik decided to break Erik Cole's neck). (Yes, I know Buffalo had injuries too, but this was apparently not important to the fact that they were "clearly superior" to the Canes in their deluded minds.)

Whatever, those are the facts. This discussion is tired. Two closely-matched teams battled. Canes won. You guys want to move past it - focus on this season, not 05-06.

[JohnH]

MOST would imply a majority and I would have to disagree with you there.

Okay, fine. I haven't paid that much attention to the discussion, but most of the posts I've read don't like it. It's entirely possible that there are many more on the other side and I just haven't seen them. Whatever. I don't feel that strongly about it, and I don't want to argue the point.

John

[DSCanesfan]

David was an underdog. The Hurricanes were not.

And correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm on my BB and I'm too lazy to look it up,:) but I'm pretty sure we won the regular season series.


Doug

[IceSun]

Doug

Yep
Nov 9 won 5-3
Feb 12 won 4-3 so
March 22 won 4-3
April 18 lost 0-4

and from that last game apparently Goliath rose

[SouthernHockeyChick]

^ROFLMAO!!:laugh:

I thought this Slug fan said he was leaving....alas...he remains :lol:

Hey, this has been one of the most entertaining game threads we've had all year!:lol:

[MoBigRed]

I think next time the Sabres come to town, we should just hire some 16-year-old kid to pick up the mic and announce, "Attention, RBC customers: All Sabres fans, leave the arena now."

[caneshockeychick]

Hey, this has been one of the most entertaining game threads we've had all year!:lol:

I know...I was pulling a "Kidder" by going back and finding someones words and then putting them back out there ;)

I think next time the Sabres come to town, we should just hire some 16-year-old kid to pick up the mic and announce, "Attention, RBC customers: All Sabres fans, leave the arena now."

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Kat]

Fair enough, that Edmonton was the Cinderella team referred to in the original post.

However, you bringing up your Ugly Stepsister status is awesome! :lol:

Again, don't see how a team with 2 finals appearances total, no Cup, and who hadn't been to the finals since the team in question (Canes) had been to the finals, AND finished beneath said team in the standings, is a Goliath. Oh, and the same team in question (Canes) suddenly becomes a "historically weaker" team.

Stats. All about stats.

[aldamon]

The complaint department is in the back, next to the portable toilet.

Outstanding. That's where all the Slug fans hang out.

[Greensboro Hurricanes]

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[SoCalcaniac]

Actually, for one, SoCal has stated that she thought it was great. Check the 3/4 Ottawa game thread. Post #63. And I quote...

"The "twilight's last Gleason" thing was GREAT."

Also, from livingthedream , Post #40.

Quote: "Oh, not sure if they shared this on the broadcast. During the anthem, folks sang "at the twilight's last GLEASON"

AWESOME"

Yes I did think it was "great" because we were celebrating our OLYMPIANS and people were in a celebratory mode. Do I win a prize for you pointing this out??? I'm not big on doing anything but putting my hand over my heart and being respectful during the anthem, although I realize others in the building like to shout "Jussi" "Red" and all that other stuff that's their thing, I choose not to participate, but as I said, people were celebratory, and they continue to do it, I, however don't participate. Good to know you're counting post #'s and have recall on what game thread people posted in. Or you spent a heck of alot of time looking that junk up. Are you sure we played the Sens that night? *roll*

What this has to do with anything related to the Buffalo lunacy is beyond me. But I'm sure you'll let us all know when you decide to come out to post and play with the rest of us.

Since you chose to drag me into this conversation, I'll state for the record that I did think it was AWESOME to hear fans chant "Gleason" on the first game of his return from his silver medal performance in the Olympics.



Ditto.

[SABuffalo786]

If that 6 year old child put his finger in my face one more time going "Sabres #1" I was seriously going to punch his father. Then the father had the nerve to say I was being a poor sport after I asked him to teach his son manners. F*ck you and go back home to that ****ty place you call home.


A 6 year old. You wanted to fight someone because of a............6 year old.

Congratulations KKKane Fan: ALL of you are pure passive aggressive, taddle to the usher when no one's looking, whitebread, sheltered, soft, everything that's wrong with America SCUM.

Kindly **** off and die.

Let's Go Buffalo.

[superdave]

A 6 year old. You wanted to fight someone because of a............6 year old.

Congratulations KKKane Fan: ALL of you are pure passive aggressive, taddle to the usher when no one's looking, whitebread, sheltered, soft, everything that's wrong with America SCUM.

Kindly **** off and die.

Let's Go Buffalo.

Thanks for making our point.

[ButtersSaysNo]

One time this buffalo loser poster named SABuffalo786 posted on our board, yet all I heard coming out of his mouth was "FRANKS AND BEANS!"

http://i41.tinypic.com/33kdafp.jpg

[c-girl]

For all you Buffalo fans coming over here, just so you know, this IS a Canes board and you have about as much chance of winning this debate here as your team had of winning on June 19, 1999 in triple overtime in Game Six. Or in Raleigh on June 1, 2006.

[Darkwing]

this pool represents how deep Buffalo will go in the playoffs if Miller doesn't maintain a 0.98 GAA:

http://www.coolfunpics.com/slides/Dive_In_Empty_Pool.jpg

[kermelbar]

A 6 year old. You wanted to fight someone because of a............6 year old.

Congratulations KKKane Fan: ALL of you are pure passive aggressive, taddle to the usher when no one's looking, whitebread, sheltered, soft, everything that's wrong with America SCUM.

Kindly **** off and die.

Let's Go Buffalo.

“It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.” ~ Mark Twain

[Caniac]

Or better to keep your mouth shut than to open it and prove you are the world's worst troll. I mean come on at least TRY. That was the worst effort I've ever seen.

I had to ban 'em on pure principle. We can't have lazy people around here.

[nccanes]

Congratulations KKKane Fan: ALL of you are pure passive aggressive, taddle to the usher when no one's looking, whitebread, sheltered, soft, everything that's wrong with America SCUM.


I know it's awful to quote this loser, but this (as SD said) SO proves the point we're trying to make.

KF asks the father to reel the kid in from rude antagonistic behavior. When that doesn't happen, they opt to leave the game rather to risk escalating their own agitation and SHE'S what's wrong with the America? :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm sure what America needs it more kids with no respect for others or adults and more parents encouraging that kind of behavior. Yeah, that's it! :lol:

[DSCanesfan]

I had to ban 'em on pure principle. We can't have lazy people around here.

Good thing you missed my post from the Blackberry.:laugh:

[sandstone]

In no way am I condoning Buffalo fans behavior, but wouldn't you have a sh**ty attitude towards sports if the following happened to your sports town:

-Your NBA franchise leaves to become the beacon of suck that is the Clippers.
-Scott Norwood
-getting blanked by the Skins in the first half en route to losing super bowl #2
-Cowboys PASTING them, leading to Super Bowl loss #3
-Cowboys coming back for more easy pickins, like Tiger Woods at a Vegas hotel for SB loss #4
-Brett Hull's skate (waaaaaaa)
-Music City Miracle (which was a lateral, get over it)
-Having consecutive captains leave town as soon as free agency hits
-winning a president's trophy but not getting it done in the playoffs AGAIN
-signing T.O..... because THAT'S a good idea
-seeing your NFL franchise test the waters in Toronto by playing home games in the Rogers Centre, as an obvious bit of foreshadowing
-creating an ATROCIOUS banana slug logo, which gets mocked by all fan bases. Then, Sabres fans shell out $$$ for those jerseys, only to have them scrapped for the upcoming 2010 season, screwing their fanbase out of even more $$


Then again, I simply find all of this to be hilarious fodder to throw back at the d-bags who come down here.


Why bring Norwood into this? Yes, the kick was wide right but he has handled it like a man, unlike some posters on here.
The NBA team left in 1978-why is that relevant today?
At least the city does have two pro sports franchises to feel bad about.

[Caniac]

* Why not bring Norwood into it?
* It adds to the level of suck that Buffalo keeps setting new records with.
* The Bills and Sabres are nothing to be proud of, collectively.

I just love it when people are sitting in Durham and will defend Buffalo to the death.

[ontheboards]

I just love it when people are sitting in Durham and will defend Buffalo to the death.

Ouch! :lol:

[JohnH]

* Why not bring Norwood into it?
* It adds to the level of suck that Buffalo keeps setting new records with.
* The Bills and Sabres are nothing to be proud of, collectively.

I just love it when people are sitting in Durham and will defend Buffalo to the death.

Speaking of Durham, and Buffalo teams that suck:

International League Baseball, 2009
Durham Bulls, 83-61, won South Division and league championship
Buffalo Bisons, 56-87, last in North Division

John "can we make this a four-sport sweep?"

[Dammit100]

Why bring Norwood into this? Yes, the kick was wide right but he has handled it like a man, unlike some posters on here.
The NBA team left in 1978-why is that relevant today?
At least the city does have two pro sports franchises to feel bad about.


I guess you missed my point with that post. I was posting a list of reasons for Buffalo fans to hate sports. Sorry you couldn't pick up on that.

You heard Norwood tried to shoot himself after that Super Bowl?

the bullet went wide right.

[dakuwan]

I guess you missed my point with that post. I was posting a list of reasons for Buffalo fans to hate sports. Sorry you couldn't pick up on that.

You heard Norwood tried to shoot himself after that Super Bowl?

the bullet went wide right.

Then there was the time they found him in a hotel with a noose around his neck but he couldnt kick the chair out from under him. :evil:

[kermelbar]

They've said it themselves! Raleigh big pop winner, Buffalo big loser (http://buffalo.bizjournals.com/buffalo/stories/2010/03/22/daily14.html)

[SouthernHockeyChick]

A 6 year old. You wanted to fight someone because of a............6 year old.

Congratulations KKKane Fan: ALL of you are pure passive aggressive, taddle to the usher when no one's looking, whitebread, sheltered, soft, everything that's wrong with America SCUM.

Kindly **** off and die.

Let's Go Buffalo.
Damn Buffalo fans. Don't you know it's more fun when we get to make you look stupid rather than you doing it for us in your first post in the thread?!?:lol:



And, I'm taking up a collection to buy sandstone a sense of humor. Although, he's/she's obviously a drive-by poster so, guess it's really not necessary. Let's just get another keg instead!


Lest we be further maligned by those with no sense of humor......I'll take a moment to mention that Doohickie has, despite some ill-informed beliefs IMO, represented the decent portion of Buffalo fans nicely. And TheMadCap (I think I'm remembering you being Buffalo-faithful?), of course, always does so.

[superdave]

Let's get this back to what it's really about, me.

I can't believe that a Slughead said I looked gay. I was wearing my finest and sporting two of my prettiest ladies.
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3025/famv.jpg
You wouldn't call this "gay" now would you? Not that there's anything wrong with that. Thanks to LTD for providing the family portrait.

[SoCalcaniac]

:lol::lol::lol: OMG I missed the party.

What's entirely hilarious is SABUFFalo was/is on my ignore list. :lol: I know it had to have been done back in 2006 or maybe the year after we won the Cup, but I knew that name was "familiar".

Ain't no party like a Buffalo fan invasion in the bldg and of course on LGC.

[DSCanesfan]

Let's get this back to what it's really about, me.

I can't believe that a Slughead said I looked gay. I was wearing my finest and sporting two of my prettiest ladies.
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3025/famv.jpg
You wouldn't call this "gay" now would you? Not that there's anything wrong with that. Thanks to LTD for providing the family portrait.


Well, you do look pretty happy to me.:) But then with those two ladies on your arms why wouldn't you look happy.

[superdave]

Well, you do look pretty happy to me.:) But then with those two ladies on your arms why wouldn't you look happy.

I've gotta find the little one a "mini me pimpcoat" for next season.