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Jillsdad
09-08-2003, 01:09 PM
I am starting this thread mostly as a joke but if people would like to use to bash any member of the Canes then feel free. It has become painfully obvious to me after reading other posts that nobody can offer an opinion about a certain goaltender without other people thinking that they are bashing said goaltender. I know from personal experience since I was quite critical about this goaltender last year and was called racist because of it. That being said, here is a specific thread if you only want to bash someone. Those people who get upset when their favorite player gets bashed respond here as well. If you have criticisms of a player or players feel free to post in whatever thread you deem necessary. Hopefully this will stop all the 'you bashed so and so thus I must defend their honor" posts that inhabit other threads.

Thank you for listening!!!! and have a nice day.

rons#1fan
09-08-2003, 01:17 PM
Hey JILLSDAD....a good idea. I'm surprised my screen wasn't oozing blood from the PRACTICE thread :beatup: I was hesitant to come into this one for fear of some HOT venting....but maybe this will make for safer threads.....

guinevere
09-08-2003, 01:43 PM
As a health care professional I have to endorse the idea of prophylaxis use when bashing. Only you can prevent the spread of blood and body fluids... http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/nurse.gif

As you were.... :)

cmw00
09-08-2003, 02:01 PM
Well well, I have my doubts as to how long this will stay open, but I'll get the ball rolling!

I'd like to take this chance to bash the canes management! I feel like we really should have brought in a proven 1st or 2nd line winger(no not Magnus).... I know, I know, what most of you think "lets give the younger (Unproven) guys a chance" :roll:. I'm sorry that I'd rather go with a proven talent than unproven potential...

I'd say we relly need a proven 2nd line left winger if I had my way! 1st line would be Cole-Brind'Amour-O'Neil. 2nd would be (Proven Left WInger)-Francis-Vrbata. Where ever cole plays we still need a left wing. But what are we going to get at left wing? Probaly Josef Vasicek. I'd rather keep him at center. Vasicek could probaly be an OK lefty, but I think in the future he'd be better utilized as a center if he can get alittle better offensively.

Cool Hand Luke
09-08-2003, 02:39 PM
:p

ahhhhh, just when I thought this topic was over...... :sick:

I suppose this thread is regarding some of my posts. (Just to make clear ... I never called anyone a racist, or incinuated that in any way. I'm not sure where that came from nor did I see that from anyone else. I doubt that would be tolerated by any moderator here).

Obviously people are entitled to voicing whatever opinions they choose, for or against said goaltender no matter how ludicrous they might seem to be. If some of my posts were considered to be "defending his honor", I guess I should apologize again. I will cease and desist immediately. ;)

By the way, I was also "defending the honor" of Danny Markov after some people were voicing negative opinions, (not bashing), concerning his threats to play in Russia. I didn't see anyone make comments afterwards complaining about how people were not allowed to voice opinions on Markov, but maybe I missed them.

hmmm, perhaps I should be a public defender?

:angel:

nccanes
09-08-2003, 02:44 PM
As a health care professional I have to endorse the idea of prophylaxis use when bashing. Only you can prevent the spread of blood and body fluids... http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/nurse.gif

As you were.... :)

Can I just have an OT-moment and say that I'm so glad that Guin has decided to crank up her posting output. I love 'em. :D :kiss:

And this thread topic is interesting. Enter at your own risk, etc. ;)

Stormbringer
09-08-2003, 02:47 PM
As a health care professional I have to endorse the idea of prophylaxis use when bashing. Only you can prevent the spread of blood and body fluids... http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/nurse.gif

As you were.... :)

Can I just have an OT-moment and say that I'm so glad that Guin has decided to crank up her posting output. I love 'em. :D :kiss:

Me too...tis nice to see that Guin's baaaaack. http://www.electrichyena.com/other/notworthy.gif

talkingcanes
09-08-2003, 02:53 PM
I agree that more Guin posts are a good thing :spin:

Anytime a thread heads toward "your favorite player sucks...." territory it can get ugly really fast.

It can also be a fascinating discussion as long as people don't let it get too personal.

MoBigRed
09-08-2003, 03:42 PM
I can't speak for Caniac or the other moderators, but this thread is fine by me. Quite obviously i enjoy this type thing, no? http://www.randakk.com/emo/angel.gif

If another mod feels differently, of course, knock yourself out.

MoBigRed
09-08-2003, 03:47 PM
It has become painfully obvious to me after reading other posts that nobody can offer an opinion about a certain goaltender without other people thinking that they are bashing said goaltender.


Hey.. are you bashing Weekes? Watch it! http://www.randakk.com/emo/whip.gif

guinevere
09-08-2003, 04:03 PM
Can I just have an OT-moment and say that I'm so glad that Guin has decided to crank up her posting output. I love 'em. :D :kiss:

It would be ungracious of me not to acknowledge... thank you all very much..

http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/1042866958.gif

SouthernHockeyChick
09-08-2003, 04:28 PM
Just to make clear ... I never called anyone a racist, or incinuated that in any way. I'm not sure where that came from nor did I see that from anyone else.

That happened on another board last season.

Jillsdad
09-08-2003, 05:18 PM
Thank you SHC for clearing that up. I believe in my original post I said that I was called a racist last year. I was not directing this too you cool hand just like I was not opening this thread because of you. I just felt it was a good idea to open up a thread like this so other threads don't get filled with the back and forth that bashing always starts.

raleighcanesfan
09-08-2003, 06:43 PM
I'm definately not a racist because I think all our goalies SUCK! (-:

SHC--you'll stick up for me, right? (-; Remember all those battles I had your back! Heehee!

No, beyond sucking, I really like(d) Irbe, but you honestly do have to admit he was never much more than an average goalie. Unconventional style on a small frame. Weekes has the bigger frame and plays his angles better (when he's on), but is not as strong mentally. That's what scares me over a long season, where he's unproven. He becomes rattled after a goal--what will happen when the team goes on their annual winter slide?

SouthernHockeyChick
09-08-2003, 07:00 PM
SHC--you'll stick up for me, right? (-; Remember all those battles I had your back! Heehee!

As always.


I'm definately not a racist because I think all our goalies SUCK! (-:

{snip}

No, beyond sucking, I really like(d) Irbe, but you honestly do have to admit he was never much more than an average goalie. Unconventional style on a small frame. Weekes has the been frame and plays his angles better (when he's on), but is not as strong mentally. That's what scares me over a long season, where he's unproven. He becomes rattled after a goal--what will happen when the team goes on their annual winter slide?

And also as always, I agree completely.

Shell
09-08-2003, 08:57 PM
speaking only for myself, I have no problem with this thread as long as everyone behaves ;)

However, the word racist has never been used on this board as an accusation so there is no reason to even bring it up. It makes me cringe. I don't hate white people because I don't like Tie Domi. You're allowed to have concerns about Weekes. Obviously anyone posting racist comments would be banned in a new york minute.

carry on... :beatup:

RIO
09-09-2003, 12:14 AM
I'm just here for the prophylaxis. :D TAY-STEE!

Guyute
09-09-2003, 09:17 AM
no problems here, long as it's not bashing people for having feelings about certain players. use one of the other hockey boards for flame fests. :)

puckin_A
09-16-2003, 11:06 PM
personally, I have great concerns when it comes to Weekes. He had a
great run before his concussion and not much after that. There is probably
a reason he was back up goalie for so long. Hopefully (and this is a huge
hopefully) it was just a confidence thing and JR is determined to build his
confidence and believe in him. I hope his gamble pays because that is
what it is, a gamble.

GOOD LUCK WEEKSEY!!.....WE ALL WANT YOU TO DO WELL!!!............. :smoke:

AbNormal27
09-17-2003, 07:10 AM
GOOD LUCK WEEKSEY!!.....WE ALL WANT YOU TO DO WELL!!!............. :smoke:

Speak on! Go on wit' yo' bad self! I'm on board with that. I'm not really a fan of goalies (most likely because I was a forward for so long and now an offensive defenceman), but I'd like to see Weekes shut every single "experts" piehole by playing his butt off and showing that he is MORE than a capable #1.

Aaryn

guinevere
09-17-2003, 07:46 AM
Awww Abnormal- you're not all that offensive... :D

I will say.. in a very small little voice- that I have concerns about Weekes too. If you look at the few games he played before the concussion - his numbers were not all that hot. Some games below a .9 save percentage.
Overall, his numbers have improved every year though. I"m hoping with a strong defense and the confidence in being the declared number one he'll be able to step up and do well on a consistent basis.

Cool Hand Luke
09-17-2003, 08:41 AM
Weekes definitely has glaring weaknesses. His puck handling is not good and puck awareness (after making a save), seems to be lacking at times. On the otherhand, he has excellent reflexes and great ability to deflect or stop the initial shot. He hasn't impressed me so far in camp though, but I'm still hoping for the best. My wife witnessed a disagreement between him and a coach, in which the coach actually gave him a little shove. Maybe they were just playin, I don't know. My wife seemed to think it was a genuine argument.

If he can't be successful this year with our loaded for bear defense, I'm afraid he never will be.

MoBigRed
09-17-2003, 09:54 AM
If he can't be successful this year with our loaded for bear defense, I'm afraid he never will be.


Can't argue with you there at all. Looking at the Canes' defense right now, i'd almost feel safe with Moss and Fichaud out there.

Note i said almost...

1Irbegirlforever
09-17-2003, 04:55 PM
Just to make clear ... I never called anyone a racist, or incinuated that in any way. I'm not sure where that came from nor did I see that from anyone else.

That happened on another board last season.

I can't imagine what or who you might be talking about... ;)

1Irbegirlforever
09-17-2003, 04:57 PM
As a health care professional I have to endorse the idea of prophylaxis use when bashing. Only you can prevent the spread of blood and body fluids... http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/nurse.gif

As you were.... :)

Can I just have an OT-moment and say that I'm so glad that Guin has decided to crank up her posting output. I love 'em. :D :kiss:

Me too...tis nice to see that Guin's baaaaack. http://www.electrichyena.com/other/notworthy.gif

I third and fourth that! This place wouldn't be the same without her! :)