Jeff Heerema Picked Up By Rangers [Archive]

nccanes

09-30-2003, 04:42 PM

Well, I guess we shouldn't be surprised.

The only thing that can be said is that he's been given a chance in a new club. If the Canes weren't going to give him a shot here, he'll get a chance elsewhere (kind of like what Bruno said Clarke said when the Flyers traded him).

I suspect this takes a little mental pressure off Heerema with his younger cousin jumping straight to his own club's NHL roster.

Good Luck Jeff.

folgersnyourcup

09-30-2003, 04:53 PM

This kind of pisses me off. He's the Canes leading scorer during preseason last year and that's not enough for him to make the team. He gets called up when the team is decimated by injuries and scores a goal in his first game as a Cane against the Devils. As the Canes' luck last year would have it, he was injured soon after. What's the point in not keeping him around in Lowell to call up? JR was saying that this was his last chance a few weeks ago and I don't think he was really given much of one.... Oh well.

talkingcanes

09-30-2003, 04:56 PM

You can't keep every player. Who should we have exposed instead? If he wasn't going to make the Canes at any point, then this gives him a chance to get a fresh start to play in the NHL. For his sake, I hope he makes the Ranger team. If he doesn't, then maybe JR wasn't wrong after all. A fresh start for him is not a bad thing IMO.

Staal-aholic

09-30-2003, 05:09 PM

we now have no former first round draft picks except O'neill. Heerema was my pick for a breakout, I hope he scores one against us.

Rodgloveswitcher

09-30-2003, 05:17 PM

I hope he scores one on everyone but us!

moonstomper

09-30-2003, 05:20 PM

that sucks...it had to be the rangers

edit - how was he picked up today? Why didnt we wait until the waiver draft and leave him unprotected? does this mean we can leave one less player unprotected?

tommy

09-30-2003, 05:35 PM

They'll teach him how to demand more money, and how to give back the least possible return on his part.... talk about corruption... :sick:

Staal-aholic

09-30-2003, 05:37 PM

I hope we don't lose defauw too, I really like him and hope he stick around, I don't understand why he isn't up with the big team, he has filled out the frame and has flashes of offense of prowess in the 9 he played. I hope he gets his shot here.

hyena

09-30-2003, 06:09 PM

oh man, that sucks. i really liked heerema, i hate to see him go. ESPECIALLY to the Rangers. :sick:

Jeff O Rocks

09-30-2003, 06:09 PM

I thought Jeff H. had great potential....if he hadn't been hurt, I think he would have done a really good job for us.......I will miss him but wish him well!!

Captain Slack

09-30-2003, 06:54 PM

Damn! I knew this was going to happen! I just had a feeling about this guy, that he was going to be someone special. I still think he will, but not with us now.... :sad: :mad:

MoBigRed

09-30-2003, 07:41 PM

Sheesh... where the heck did this come from? Ungood.

Man. I sure do hope Staal doesn't decide the Canes did a piss-poor job with his cousin and decide he'd rather play elsewhere as well... :crazy:

Staal-aholic

09-30-2003, 07:47 PM

I don't think Staal cares, he saw how his cousin played in the preseason and he saw how he played, this is a cutthroat sport and there is no such thing as seniority with prospects. Staal nets 2, Staal stays. Heerema is a -2, Heerema goes I had hopes for Jeff but he needed a new organization.

SouthernHockeyChick

09-30-2003, 08:04 PM

OK, why on earth would we waive Hereema BEFORE the waiver draft? What is up? Something else has got to be coming, doesn't it? This makes no sense whatsoever to me.

Guyute

09-30-2003, 08:09 PM

well... I don't believe WE get anything out of a player who is picked up in the waiver draft. just like we don't get anything now. I don't see why there's a reason to wait.

if JR made up his mind to let Jeff go... do so and get it over with. Lowell is going to be Way overcrowded this year (and hopefully JUST this year). so, if you know you're going to risk losing someone.. might as well rip that bandaid off.
jmo.

Shell

09-30-2003, 08:16 PM

I don't see how that much potential can't be worth at least a draft pick??? I think this one will bite us in the ass.. Makes no sense to me.. no way should we be sharing Lowell (which I don't like at all) if it means we have to get rid of potential..

Rangers claim RW Heerema
NEW YORK (Ticker) -- Three days ahead of the NHL waiver draft, the New York Rangers on Tuesday claimed right wing Jeff Heerema and defenseman Shawn Heins off waivers from the Carolina Hurricanes and Atlanta Thrashers, respectively.

Heerema, 23, was the 11th overall pick in the 1998 draft but did not make his NHL debut until last season, when he scored three goals in 10 games. In 2000-01, he was 13th in the American Hockey League in scoring with 33 goals and 37 assists in 76 games with Lowell.

CallMeThrasher

10-01-2003, 01:02 AM

:mad: :mad: :mad: Another wasted first round pick. Hereema is going to be a good player in this league....so very sad....... coach mo's defensive system claims another one...

That said, being up here in NJ and hating the Devils, I'm becoming more of a Rangers fan, so hey, it could be worse.

Mo Must Go.

Staal-aholic

10-01-2003, 05:45 AM

we can always pick him back up if he gets sent back down

Turbulence

10-01-2003, 05:52 AM

We hardly gave him a chance! How many NHL games did he play with us? No more than 10...this move was made too quick. /shrug.

I hope he turns out to be awesome.

AbNormal27

10-01-2003, 06:55 AM

FOLKS! Please keep in mind that the GM Meeting is going on right now. This may have been a way for us to lose him and get him back via trade, picked up off waivers if the Rangers send him down, or from the Waiver Draft which is 2 days away! Relax, sit tight and stay tuned. Just my 2¢.

Aaryn

cmw00

10-01-2003, 10:22 AM

Well how long has he been with us? Since 98? If he was going to be somthing in the NHL its time he started showing it and apparently he didn't do it. Unless this is some kind of clever scheme mentioned above to get him back or somthing.

But I'm sure Muarice, Jr and PK, know more about what they are doing than us. Like sombody else said we can't keep everybody. Better to loose him than risk sombody else in the waiver draft I'm sure.

But then again I hope if the rangers leave him unprotected that we don't waste our first pick on him, unless there isn't anything else available. I could se this being some scheme by NY and Carolina where we pick him up and that would mean we would have to un protect sombody, sombody we really didn't want to protect in the first place and then we get to keep herema?

I don't know....

StormShaman

10-01-2003, 10:26 AM

I think there's something more going on here than meets the eye.

But that's just me.

corylav

10-01-2003, 10:29 AM

good luck to Jeff ... I didn't see him ever fitting in, personally ... it's sad that so many No. 1s have departed, but hopefully the latest No. 1 will make up for all that.

MoBigRed

10-01-2003, 11:41 AM

I think there's something more going on here than meets the eye.

But that's just me.

Me too.

Rutherford said a few teams inquired about trading for Heerema, 23; the Rangers were not one of them.

I won't know what to think if Rutherford turned down trade offers for the guy just so he could waive him and lose him for nothing. Not that i'd be overly surprised, but it's a little too convenient that this happens while all of the GMs are having their little tea party.

cmw00

10-01-2003, 12:08 PM

Maybe Jr was just trying to send Jeff down not thinking anybody would nab him off waivers? I'd say thats the most likely scenairio.

Unless Jr had some kind of agreenment with the devil, I mean Sather.

SouthernHockeyChick

10-01-2003, 12:11 PM

Mo, that's pretty much what I was thinking. Seems like we should have been able to get something for him and since I don't think JR is stupid I think there has to be something else coming.

nccanes

10-01-2003, 12:13 PM

guinevere

10-01-2003, 12:15 PM

I'm curious about that too. Was Jeff picked up on the waiver wire which just happened to coincide with the waiver draft? I"m waivered out quite frankly...

SouthernHockeyChick

10-01-2003, 12:15 PM

Maybe Jr was just trying to send Jeff down not thinking anybody would nab him off waivers? I'd say thats the most likely scenairio.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but sending a player to the minors before the season begins it not the same as "sending them down" once he is part of an NHL roster.

I believe you are right. Meaning Hereema didn't have to clear waivers to go down to Lowell. They actually chose to waive the guy.

Waiver draft isn't until Friday. This is completely separate from the waiver draft.

Morphine Boy

10-01-2003, 02:46 PM

Personally, I don't think he was that good.

I mean yeah, he wowed us when he came up last year, but he just wasn't showing anything during training camp.

[sigh]

Ah well. Another one bites the dust. Best o' luck to Jeff in NY.

Turbulence

10-01-2003, 03:24 PM

But I'm sure Muarice, Jr and PK, know more about what they are doing than us.

Bah! :beatup:

Guyute

10-01-2003, 03:46 PM

he has been left unprotected on the waiver wire.

Staal-aholic

10-01-2003, 05:16 PM

well if Heerema is unprotected than Barnaby is able to be protected. JR could just be doing Sather a favor, but I think Jeff is staying in New York. He seems relieved to go there.

guinevere

10-01-2003, 07:29 PM

Here's the list... for the Rangers unprotected:

Available

Pavel Bure, F; Ken Gernander, F; Paul Healey, F; Jeff Heerema, F; Shawn Heins, D; John Jakopin, D; Cory Larose, F; Lawrence Nycholat, D; Ronald Petrovicky, F; Mike Richter, G.

Wonder if Jeff knew that was going to happen?

StormShaman

10-01-2003, 07:41 PM

He seems relieved to go there.

Did he say something and I missed it?

:confused:

Shell

10-01-2003, 07:48 PM

"It's a fresh start for me," Heerema said. "I'm going back up to the NHL right now. I'm happy. ... I think I was obviously given a chance. I was at camp five times. It just never worked out. I'm going elsewhere and that's how the game goes."

StormShaman

10-01-2003, 07:57 PM

Color me enlightened. :)

cmw00

10-01-2003, 10:44 PM

Well according to this Jeff was sent to Lowell by us, so why would we then have waived him?

RALEIGH, N.C. (Sept. 24, 2003) – Jim Rutherford, President and General Manager of the Carolina Hurricanes, today announced that eight players were returned from the Hurricanes’ training camp, to the Lowell Lock Monsters of the American Hockey League. Forwards Pavel Brendl, Brad DeFauw, Jeff Heerema, Tomas Kurka, Damian Surma and Mike Zigomanis, defenseman Tomas Malec and goaltender Rob Zepp will report to Lowell’s training camp which began today. Likewise, defenseman Matej Trojovsky, a 2003 Hurricanes draftee, will return to his junior club, Swift Current of the Western Hockey League.
http://www.letsgocanes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1348

StormShaman

10-01-2003, 10:57 PM

Well according to this Jeff was sent to Lowell by us, so why would we then have waived him?

I suspect we'll find out.

cmw00

10-01-2003, 11:30 PM

Well that artcile is what made me think initially that he was just sent down but had to clear waivers, then was nabbed out from under us?

nccanes

10-02-2003, 05:50 AM

Well that artcile is what made me think initially that he was just sent down but had to clear waivers, then was nabbed out from under us?

This is incorrect. He was sent down with the rest of the guys that were "cut" and then placed on waivers. Until the NHL roster is set and the season begins, you don't have to "clear waivers" to be assigned to your minor league club. The "waiver draft" is something altogether different. The page on nhl.com explains the rules pretty well at the bottom of the list of protected and unproteced players.

We responded to your post a few posts ago:

Maybe Jr was just trying to send Jeff down not thinking anybody would nab him off waivers? I'd say thats the most likely scenairio.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but sending a player to the minors before the season begins it not the same as "sending them down" once he is part of an NHL roster.

I believe you are right. Meaning Hereema didn't have to clear waivers to go down to Lowell. They actually chose to waive the guy.

Waiver draft isn't until Friday. This is completely separate from the waiver draft.

Staal-aholic

10-02-2003, 05:51 AM

well we have every chance to get him back if we want him. JR said he wasn't adding anyone new, but Jeff isn't anything new. For some reason I don't think we will see Jeff back with the Canes anytime soon.

AbNormal27

10-02-2003, 07:03 AM

well we have every chance to get him back if we want him.

Well, while we're at it..............

Toronto Maple Leafs

Available

Lonny Bohonos, F; Harold Druken, F; Maxim Galanov, D; Aaron Gavey, F; Travis Green, F; Josh Holden, F; Brad Leeb, F; Marc Moro, D; Robert Reichel, F; Mike Minard, G.

It might just be a game that JR and the Laffs are playing with him too. ;)

Aaryn

Jeff O Rocks

10-02-2003, 09:58 AM

caveman

10-02-2003, 10:41 AM

No surprise that Irbe is not protected. Around the league, there are some interesting names afloat.

Jeff Hereema, Ian MacNeil, Nikos Tselios, Jean-Marc Pelletier, Shane Willis, Harold Druken, Josh Holden, and Darren Langdon have all spent recent time with the Canes. (And I know I've missed others).

Some others of interest are Brian Boucher (G), Pavel Bure (F), Mike Richter (G), Mariusz Czerkawski (F), Alexandre Daigle (F), Bill Lindsay (F), Curtis Joseph (G), Theo Fluery (F), and Steve Shields (G). Of course, some in that list are severely damaged (Fluery, Bure), some are retired (Richter), some are overpaid (Czerkawski), and others have not lived up to their potential (Daigle).

But I'm fairly interested in getting Hereema and Willis back... two young forward with scoring ability can't hurt any organisation.

Full list from ESPN:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=1628321