View Full Version : Game thread...Canes vs. St. Louis 1/6/04
crazy4canes
01-06-2004, 07:54 AM
Well, I'm depressed. Five games into the homestand and the Canes are 2-3. Not to mention being utterly embarrassed on Sunday by the Coyotes. Now they have to take on St. Louis who is third in the West. Great. Shoot me now and get it over with. I don't even want a blindfold. Good news? There is no good news. No wait, that's not true...last night I was watching the Rangers/Flames game and Mike Dunham came out to play the puck. Then BLAMMO! the puck hits the boards and ricochets straight into the Rangers net. Ok, so it would've been funnier had I not witnessed the same thing happen to our very own Kevin Weekes not even a week ago.
Ok, enough of that....let's talk about the game. The Blues are doing well this season. With Keith Tkachuk leading the way, they've managed to put together 22 wins and sit only 7 points behind division leading Detroit.
So that's what Carolina has to deal with. To put it in perspective, our team leading scorer has 20 points, theirs has 38. Yeah. Two words: We're screwed. It's ok, only 12 people will be there to see the carnage. Sigh. Actually what's probably going to happen is that the Canes will win and breathe new life into my hope for this team....only to destroy it 2 days later. Such is the life of a caniac... :cry:
Here's the pre-game skate (http://www.carolinahurricanes.com/news/news.asp?articleid=1162) from ch.com. Go Canes!! Discuss...
ausoleil
01-06-2004, 08:11 AM
It's about time for this team to show heart...if they have any left.
Guyute
01-06-2004, 08:26 AM
I agree. Sunday was an utterly heartless effort. The fans know it, JR knows it, Lav knows it... I would hope the Canes know it. But more importantly, are they prepared to do anything about it?
I want to see at LEAST 5 solid checks in the first 2 shifts tonight. Otherwise I'll resign myself to watch the ass-kicking that will ensue.
Cool Hand Luke
01-06-2004, 08:35 AM
It will be interesting to see how the guys respond to Lavi challenging their "manhood". We should be able to see who wants to stay here and who wants to be shipped out.
cmw00
01-06-2004, 08:53 AM
Its good to see Laviolete talking tough instead of saying everything is alright like others have done in the past....
If the canes don't put fourth an effort tonight it will not be easy to watch. I wouldn't mind if they loose, just as long as they look like they are trying to put fourth an effort tonight.
I think the blues are easily one of the top 3 teams in the league so this isn't gonna be an easy game any way we look at it.....
moonstomper
01-06-2004, 09:18 AM
the blues are not a good team to try and break a slump against, heres hopin
Captain Slack
01-06-2004, 09:20 AM
I have a bad feeling about this game. :sad:
caniac369
01-06-2004, 09:21 AM
I just got back into town last and I have one thing to say:
WHAT THE FU...????
I didn't get to watch any of the games but I DVR'd them and am contemplating whether I want to depress myself furthur with the lack-luster highlights... :sad:
guinevere
01-06-2004, 09:24 AM
It could go either way - they tied last night, correct? Here's hoping that the back to back in different times zones paired with some Laviolette inspired fire will get something going. Our defense for the most part seems to be doing something right (excluding Phoenix game which was played by bobbleheads) - Predators got thumped in a much worse fashion by Detroit - made me feel a little better anyway.
Guyute
01-06-2004, 09:29 AM
I'd suggest not watching Phoenix for sure. Detroit was a slightly better game than the score showed, but still verrrry frustrating.
and yes guin, the Blues tied last night. I did a brief recap of that game in the Games to watch tonight (or whatever it's called. I started it and I don't remember. lol) thread.
Guyute
01-06-2004, 09:40 AM
Referees Don Koharski #12; Jay Sharrers #22
Jeff O Rocks
01-06-2004, 09:56 AM
I dont know what to say... I just hope they come out hitting hard so they can cause some kind of stimulation.. I think we need a fight in the first period too.. JESSE..... that may jumpstart some hearts on the bench and in the stands...
I know the team has heart..that is the one thing that I have always loved about them...hopefully they can find it again..what was the Stanley Cup slogan?? One Team, One Dream?? I took a sign to the party after they got home and it said "One Heart, One Team".... **sigh** If they don't turn it around tonight.. I am not sure what to say anymore!! :sad:
Flanman
01-06-2004, 10:19 AM
Tonight...
WE WIN
:eek2: I Guar-ron-DAMN-tee it! :eek2:
You heard it here first.
Fear Coach Lavi!
00Flanagan
corylav
01-06-2004, 11:01 AM
I think this is the kind of team we can beat ... doesn't anyone remember why Osgood was sent packing from Hockeytown? Because he lets in a bunch of 50-foot shots ... I say we sit back at the red line and just bounce pucks at him all night!
P.S. I can't wait to watch Barret Jackman, probably my favorite young player in the league (minus any Canes)
the blues are not a good team to try and break a slump against, heres hopin
Exactly. In spite of Cory, I think Osgood will be a big problem. He's been playing pretty confidently lately, and I think he'll come up big against us, especially since we play like we're on hefty drugs. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, baby. And if Osgood doesn't create a worry, it'll be Pronger. The man, as odious as I find him, can play. And play. And play some more.
SouthernHockeyChick
01-06-2004, 11:48 AM
I'm just too scared to even address any real details. I've been trying not to think about it. :sad:
I agree with RIO that Osgood has been playing very well....but I also agree that, in the past at least, he has had some focus issues. Let's hope for an off night. Although, would even that be enough?
The only think I want to see of Jackman are his skates....flying up in the air as one of our players takes him out! :evil:
At some point as we were watching the World Junior game last night Mr SHC asked "Why don't we ever play like that?" and without even thinking my response was "Because we don't have that kind of heart anymore." Please, let them find that heart again!!
I hate the Blues. :sick:
Guyute
01-06-2004, 11:48 AM
and Tkachuk (one of the top 2 most dangerous power forwards in the game, the other being 'Tuzzi).... oh, and the lil guy named Demitra....
and a host of others. yes, the blues have off nights. but pound for pound, they're one of the most dangerous teams in the league, imho. I love 'em for it. But I also don't look forward to them playing the Canes.
Cool Hand Luke
01-06-2004, 11:51 AM
I think this is the kind of team we can beat ... doesn't anyone remember why Osgood was sent packing from Hockeytown? Because he lets in a bunch of 50-foot shots ... I say we sit back at the red line and just bounce pucks at him all night!
Osgood has been sent packing from a few teams, but he looks like a new and improved Osgood this year. I've watched a few Blues games, and the dude is playing like he is on steroids, he's stepped up bigtme. I'm hoping he gets the night off since he just played last night and I think Divis is their backup now. Although I think Divis shut us out last year in his first ever NHL start. Maybe time for some payback tonight? ahh, it probably doesn't matter who is in net for them tonight. :D They're in for it.
Two things going for us tonight, the Blues played a tough game last night so they might be a bit tired, and I read somewhere that Demitra isn't playing. Cool for us. Bad if you want to watch Demitra.
Guyute
01-06-2004, 11:54 AM
Demitra is back. cleared by doc's (of possible concussion). He played last night. Not good for us, good if you want to watch him. ;) hehe
goalie33
01-06-2004, 12:01 PM
P.S. I can't wait to watch Barret Jackman, probably my favorite young player in the league (minus any Canes)
Jackman reaggravated his shoulder injury after one minute of play the other night. I hope we don't see him, but only because he's such a damn good d-man.
The game last night was ugly. I feel bad for Rolie that he let that scramble goal in, because he was really good for the rest of the night.
Cool Hand Luke
01-06-2004, 12:05 PM
Demitra is back. cleared by doc's (of possible concussion). He played last night. Not good for us, good if you want to watch him. ;) hehe
(doing my Maxwell Smart impression)
Would you believe, one good thing going for us?
folgersnyourcup
01-06-2004, 12:39 PM
I will be at tonight's game and am scared for the Canes. The Blues are a good team and I would really hate to see the Canes pummeled all night. I am hoping to see the Canes come out hitting and looking to play ALL NIGHT as opposed to either starting strong and then doing nothing or not playing hard until they are down by a couple goals.
At last year's home game against the Blues I believe the Canes did not show up at all until they were down by 3. They begin a furious rally towards the end of the game that came up just short, but it was too little too late just like so many games over the past year have been. I hope they can change that tonight...
Thank god I missed the Pheonix game as I was sleeping in from driving back after the Panthers playoff game the night before.
murda338
01-06-2004, 12:59 PM
Here's hoping weekes confidence didnt go down the drain, cause Storr is obviously not the same goalie we thought we saw with the Kings, hes almost worse then Irbe in his flopping.
And the lil skate like hell out of the crease to get the puck played, helps no one but tire him quicker, soo...hmm...why do it? he's dropped the puck once after catching it, and didnt lead to anything really besides a tired canes line on the ice expecting him to cover the freaking puck.
SO HERES TO WEEKES :) lmao
of course winning 6-5 dont bother me either
Shell
01-06-2004, 01:27 PM
Looks like Barret is out and Osgood is in tonight..
Gameday: Blues at Carolina
- Derrick Goold
01/05/2004
BLUES REVIEW
They have won their past three trips to Carolina, and overall are unbeaten in their past five against the 'Canes. ... Goalie Chris Osgood is expected to start. ... There has not been a shutout in the series for nearly 15 years, stretching back 29 games. ... The Blues have scored 39 first-period goals, second-most in the NHL this season.
HURRICANES PREVIEW
Eric Staal played 29 minutes Friday vs. Detroit, the most ever by a rookie forward in the NHL since ice time has been kept as a stat. ... Carolina has two goals in its past 46 power plays. ... Eric Cole has not scored a goal in 23 games, yet is tied with Staal for second on the team in points (17).
LEADERS
Blues: Doug Weight - 7 goals, 10 assists, 17 points in 13 road games
Hurricanes: Jeff O'Neill - 3 goals, 9 assists, 12 points in 21 home games
KEY STAT
0: Total first-period goals scored by Carolina in its past 11 games. The 'Canes have 16 first-period goals, fewest in the league.
INJURIES
Blues: Reed Low (ribs), out; Al MacInnis (eye), out; Steve McLaren (hands), out; Matt Walker (groin), out.
Hurricanes: None.
and from a game recap:
Osgood, who will start tonight in Carolina for the Blues, made 23 saves, two in the scoreless overtime
On his second shift of the game, Barret Jackman took a hit that re-injured his left shoulder. Jackman has twice missed a stretch of games, the most recent a 17-game span, because of the injured shoulder. He did not return to the game, and the Blues will have an MRI taken of the shoulder today. Jackman did not make the trip to Carolina, and he could be out for his third extended absence of the season.
tommy
01-06-2004, 01:30 PM
The Blues have scored 39 first-period goals, second-most in the NHL this season.
Turby, I'll let you do the honors with the picture.
Guyute
01-06-2004, 01:32 PM
this has gotta be approaching a record:
Carolina has two goals in its past 46 power plays
God that's sickening.
Night Train
01-06-2004, 02:10 PM
this has gotta be approaching a record:
Carolina has two goals in its past 46 power plays
God that's sickening.
If I remember correctly, Edmonton was 1-for-46 as of the other day. Still that doesn't excuse our lackadaisical play on the PP.
Shell
01-06-2004, 02:18 PM
If I remember correctly, Edmonton was 1-for-46 as of the other day. Still that doesn't excuse our lackadaisical play on the PP.
Nope, in december they scored on the PP on 12/9, 12/12, 12/27, and 12/28 :)
corylav
01-06-2004, 02:18 PM
too bad about Jackman ... he's the kind of player that makes hockey fun to watch. But, at least he's out for the game vs. the Canes!
Night Train
01-06-2004, 02:30 PM
My bad. It was Calgary.... (and they got another one last night)
http://nhl.com/onthefly/scoreboard/recaps/591_2_recap.html
Turbulence
01-06-2004, 03:15 PM
You got it, Tommy. http://turbulence.homestead.com/files/we_re_screwed.jpg
And we are...this is such a dangerous team. And we're so not dangerous that it's heartbreaking. Yet I still believe that the guys will have taken Lavvy's message to heart and will play their butts off. If we see the same team that we saw on Sunday, some heads will be rolling for sure.
SouthernHockeyChick
01-06-2004, 03:40 PM
Last minute change in plans....I AM going to the game. Like I could resist. This probably means they'll stink....sorry about that. See you all there!
GO CANES!!
suamme1
01-06-2004, 04:19 PM
See you all there!
Too bad I don't know what anyone looks like, or I'd say Hi tonight, or when I'm working.....
Nothing like personalized attention from random arena employees....
(I'm hoping we do win tonigh because Thursday's game is national and we need a large crowd to look decent on ESPN2.)
netterau
01-06-2004, 04:46 PM
boooo-hooo, I have such a bad feeling about tonight's game...
gonna keep an eye on it via espn.com while putting down the finishing touches on my study (it has to be finished and handed in by tomorrow at 12.oo, so I guess I can allow myself to take SOME time off to cheer the boys on all the way from Stockholm, Sweden)...
c'mon, gooooooooo CANES!
cheers, n. :smoke:
Kapanen024
01-06-2004, 05:15 PM
We're there in spirit!
GO CANES!!!!!!!!!!
*Kali*
:angel:
Shell
01-06-2004, 05:43 PM
Last minute change in plans....I AM going to the game. Like I could resist. This probably means they'll stink....sorry about that. See you all there!
GO CANES!!
nah, I can cancel you out.. I was in a meeting until 5:15 and then went and checked my voicemail, had someone offer me 4 free club level seats for tonight, but only if I called back by 5:00 *d'oh* (obviously I called at 5:15 but she was already gone).. I figured that meant we were in for a great one ;)
canefan2k1
01-06-2004, 06:19 PM
The all important first goal...
1-0 'Canes.
....see what happens when you crash the net?? :eek:
Edit: ANOTHER FIRST PERIOD GOAL BY THE 'CANES??? :eek:
And to that...Kevyn Adams AGAIN shorthandedly...
2-0 'Canes..wow :spin:
tommy
01-06-2004, 06:25 PM
THIS is hockey!!!!!
It looks like PLav has done what Mo could not: motivate the team after a loss.
caveman
01-06-2004, 06:33 PM
Last minute change in plans....I AM going to the game. Like I could resist. This probably means they'll stink....sorry about that. See you all there!
GO CANES!!
nah, I can cancel you out.. I was in a meeting until 5:15 and then went and checked my voicemail, had someone offer me 4 free club level seats for tonight, but only if I called back by 5:00 *d'oh* (obviously I called at 5:15 but she was already gone).. I figured that meant we were in for a great one ;)
That is definitely one of the best ways to know it will be a good game, getting offered tickets but not being able to take advantage of it!
Shell
01-06-2004, 06:49 PM
especially when said tickets are $99 each lol. She did actually say she had this game and one other.. I'll be sure to warn you on the one other. Stay away that night ;)
So far it is working like a charm.. 2 first period goals, and keeping St Louis out of their most dangerous period.. I like it.. now, let's see it sustained all game!!!
It's amazing how quick I can get greedy, I went in hoping for a goal and then when we had an even-handed and a shorty and got the power play, I wanted one of each flavor lol
For those at the game, I thought it was interesting that John said Lavi has had 1 on 1 meetings with almost everyone since the Phoenix game. I think that's a good thing.
murda338
01-06-2004, 06:53 PM
You know the less I watch on TV the better they play? I was playing NHL 2004 and won 6-0 and then i come on to see the Canes up to 2-0....Weirdness....and the games i cant watch we win...cept phoenix didnt see that one
But thier 10-2-1 when i goto the games personally
netterau
01-06-2004, 06:55 PM
Wooooow! What do you know, here I am struggling with my study not checking the score for like 12 min or so... and next time I check - 2-0 Canes! I say, Mr. Adams! Way to go! Soon he'll have collected more SH goals than O'Neill has collected goals altogether!
Keep it up and GO CANES! :D :D :D :D :D :beatup:
cheers, n. :smoke:
Rodgloveswitcher
01-06-2004, 07:50 PM
Its good that we are up by 2 goals, but come on......how many wide open scoring chances does it take? I look forward to some games where we win easily.
tommy
01-06-2004, 08:34 PM
Yay, a win!!! Let's do this again!
Kevyn Adams was superb tonight! 1 shortie, an assist, and great play overall. Weekes was excellent as well! 5 shutouts this season is great! Hopefully they can get on a roll now, and not destroy our confidence in them!
Only complaint is that our PP is still abysmal. We are less than 4 percent on our last 50 power plays. (2-for-52, I believe.)
Rodgloveswitcher
01-06-2004, 08:34 PM
Of course a 2-0 win over St. Louis ain't bad.
Stormbringer
01-06-2004, 08:39 PM
Yay, a win!!! Let's do this again!
Kevyn Adams was superb tonight! 1 shortie, an assist, and great play overall. Weekes was excellent as well! 5 shutouts this season is great! Hopefully they can get on a roll now, and not destroy our confidence in them!
Only complaint is that our PP is still abysmal. We are less than 4 percent on our last 50 power plays. (2-for-52, I believe.)
:spin: (does the Myposian Dance of Joy) :spin:
Fully agree with you Tommy...looks like for the most part that Lavi got to them. Thought the game was overall great, save the power play (which wasn't horrible but was at best mediocre) and there being a few chances we could have scored on. But, I'm just happy that we beat one of the best teams in the West AND NHL. :spin:
netterau
01-06-2004, 08:41 PM
yup! I do get your point, rgw... but frankly I'm in too cheerful a mood to care right now! I'm just so happy to yet again having a feeling that the players CARE about this! yeeee-hooo! :D
cheers, n. :smoke:
Kapanen024
01-06-2004, 08:45 PM
YEA! 2-0 Final! :D ("Yea Yea Yea" says PCF) Way to go Canes!!!
canes4ever63
01-06-2004, 08:49 PM
good job kevyn!! :p
we socred not 1 but 2 goals in the 1st period, that has to be a record! :D
i had a fun time watching the game at home today, i found out that I could take pictures of the tv! lol, fun times are ahead w/ me and a camera! :eek:
tommy
01-06-2004, 08:50 PM
Also, Ottawa is beating Tampa 4-2 with 7 minutes left in the game, so it looks like we can make up 2 points on the Bolts tonight! Always good when that happens!
Turbulence
01-06-2004, 08:51 PM
Geez, I love winning. That was a great effort tonight....two very good teams were on the ice tonight. Though I still don't like our 0-for on the pp, and the limited 5-on-5 offense, a win is a win, and the guys really showed how much they want to succeed tonight. And Kevin Weekes.....the guy's an all-star, for sure. MVP of the game and of the season for the 'Canes.
Bring on the Rangers!
ausoleil
01-06-2004, 09:01 PM
Now let's see some consistency.
These Hurricanes are consistently inconsistent.
MeanGene
01-06-2004, 09:18 PM
Now let's see some consistency.
These Hurricanes are consistently inconsistent.
Well isn't that what you want. Consistency?
:D
MeanGene
01-06-2004, 09:21 PM
Man it feels good to get a win again. It was nice to see everyone standing up for the last 1:30 of the game cheering and hoping for a goal!!
suamme1
01-06-2004, 09:22 PM
I ended up in Sec 125 tonight and was very happy. I am glad I found hockey.
I was very upset that the open net shot from the other side was about 2 inches off. That would have been nice....
nccanes
01-06-2004, 09:29 PM
Yay - that was fun!!
I got to sit with some fellow lgc-ers and we all agreed the goal judge that lit the lamp when we didn't score in the first should be fired. ;) :beatup: That's just mean. :p Thankfully we scored two in the first.
I think we held StL to 2 shots or something in the third? Nice.
Funny to see Jeff Heerema skating around in a Blues jersey.
Crowd was very small, but as usual very enthusiastic. Cheered good shifts and threw in a few good Lets Go Canes cheers - really strong when they pulled their goalie.
I feel a tad bad for CAdams. PLav was questioning effort and CAdams does give that, so it had to hurt that he was scratched anyway.
Murray and Adams are quite a pair, no? What fun to watch them.
Cole slammed his stick hard when he went back to the bench after missing that open net on that PP.
Yay team! :D
folgersnyourcup
01-06-2004, 09:34 PM
I'm glad that we won this game and I'm happy for Kevyn Adams BUT....the people we MUST have score just aren't getting it done. After Osgood woke up he made some nice saves but it was the same old thing with juicy scoring chances that we just found ways not to convert! The team was working hard, of that I have no doubt, but were just completely unable to finish chances... I enjoyed the win over the Blues, but found it at times to be very frustrating as well. The long, agonizing trek that the puck took as it crossed the ice towards the empty net at the end of the game only to wind up hitting the post sums up some of how I feel.
Maybe I should just enjoy this win.... However, despite how hard Kevyn "shorthanded" Adams works, and he works damn hard, I just don't see him being capable of scoring over and over, night in and night out. We need the Francis', the O'Neill's, the Coles, the Brindamours', the Vasiceks', etc. to step up and FINISH chances. Brindamour had a few instances where he lost sight of the puck but worked hard, Cole did well overall and thankfully kept the falling down to a minimum tonight, I was praying for Staal to just shoot it after another juicy pass to O'Neill was met with no finish for one reason or another (shot wide, stick not on the ice to get the pass, stick lifted, etc.) O'Neill must do something with these nice passes...
The amount of chances we had to score were quite high which happened because of working hard. During the Coyotes game we got next to no scoring chances due to not much effort. So to sum up here, we've got the work ethic down, but confidence isn't rising when nobody can finish chances...and that in turn can lead to games where the team works hard but gets shutout or scores one goal and loses due to an inability to finish and then feels bad about themselves and turns in an effort like the Coyotes game. We've seen this sequence happen several times over the past year and a half. I don't want to see it ever happen again.
I'm out of luck in terms of suggestions for what to do to avoid this though, for example Pittsburgh may work their butts off night in and night out but they don't win consistently because they just don't have the talent. I think we've got good talent, but the majority of it is mired in what I hope are merely horrendous slumps that are almost over. Never scoring three goals and more often than not scoring 0 or 1 is just not going to get us into the playoffs. Weekes won't get a shutout everynight so goals are a necessary part of winning hockey games.
Tonight, the defense did a nice job of limiting St. Louis' scoring chances down to very few (being on the 2nd half of a back to back may have attributed to that as well) and Weekes did fine with what little he was faced with but I felt the Canes were helped by a not so stellar start to the game by Osgood. He made some strong saves in the late going, yes, but just did not look very sharp in the early going. Particularly the shorthanded goal by Kevyn Adams is one that he should've had. But kudos to Adams for getting it on net, though it wasn't as pretty as his last shorty, it was still a much-needed goal.
For those at the game, (I don't know if you could hear this on tv) the prophetic "The puck did not go in the net" over the PA system not more than 10 seconds before the first goal was great. The announcer said that over an earlier chance that I believe some fans thought might have gone in. When the Canes' first goal was scored moments after that announcement was made I felt like saying, "Yes it did!" in response.
But I'll shut up now and take the two points. They were much needed and give us the momentum necessary to help us finish with a winning record on this 7 game home-stand should we beat the Rangers on Thursday. The Canes laid out some nice hits and it was nice to see them beat a team higher in the standings.
Shell
01-06-2004, 09:35 PM
I feel a tad bad for CAdams. PLav was questioning effort and CAdams does give that, so it had to hurt that he was scratched anyway.
hhmm, good point.. lessee, a 4th liner gets Lots of ice time and then is a healthy scratch? Wonder if he was being displayed for a trade?
Murray and Adams are quite a pair, no? What fun to watch them.
Cole slammed his stick hard when he went back to the bench after missing that open net on that PP.
Yay team! :D
Marty and Kevyn were great fun to watch! Cole slammed his stick, so the TV camera was zoomed on him as he let an F bomb fly.. nowhere near as bad as one of the Blues' tirade in the sin bin though
ahhh winning is good.
nccanes
01-06-2004, 09:43 PM
Maybe I should just enjoy this win.... However, despite how hard Kevyn "shorthanded" Adams works, and he works damn hard, I just don't see him being capable of scoring over and over, night in and night out.
You are absolutely right Folg. I was thinking the same thing and said it out loud to hyena. But I'm happy we won, because we need to.
The announcer said that over an earlier chance that I believe some fans thought might have gone in.
The light went on! I wondered why they had to make the announcement because it was pretty obvious by then that it hadn't, lol.
But I'll shut up now and take the two points. They were much needed and give us the momentum necessary to help us finish with a winning record on this 7 game home-stand should we beat the Rangers on Thursday. The Canes laid out some nice hits and it was nice to see them beat a team higher in the standings.
You got it!
VandyCane
01-06-2004, 09:43 PM
Lol, shell. I'm glad my kids were in bed, 'cause Cole's f-bomb was quite a doozy! I went to the pre-game skate today (didn't post in the practice thread since I just now made it to the computer) and Markov, Ward, Wallin and Boughner practiced blue line slapshots for over 15 minutes. I was so glad to see that Markov took his practice to heart! :)
Turbulence
01-06-2004, 09:45 PM
And I gotta add....Not only were Murray and Adams great tonight, but what can you say about Boulerice? He may not be dropping the gloves as of late, but he was a force in quite a few of the chances that his line created. Perhaps Lavvy will see this potential and give him some more ice time...
agentpreppie
01-06-2004, 09:47 PM
I had to go play indoor soccer at the end of the second and I was expecting to come back and see that the Blues got a goal so the win would be the usual 2-1. A nice surprise. What little bit I did see, they looked good. Still not scoring but they were showing the hustle that will result into something (crossing fingers). I was real glad to see that the "discussion" they had after Sunday's fiasco didn't turn anyone off.
goalie33
01-06-2004, 09:52 PM
A great game all around. Weekes had one of those nights where you could just tell that nothing was going to get by. Another shortie for K. Adams, sure, but HOW ABOUT JESSE BOULERICE? Great pressure on offense, net-crashing, working for the puck. I like Murray/Adams/Boulerice more than Murray/Adams/Adams. Bad shot placement on the open net by Cole, but you've gotta hand it to Osgood for getting his paddle down to stop the puck. The shot on the empty net was one of the most exciting moments of the year...the puck was going soooooo sloooooow. Let's see this again on Thursday!
On a BB note, thanks to Flanman & Co. for alerting me to the fact that I had forgotten my jacket as I did a happy dance out of 328, and thanks to Stormbringer for reminding me of my long lost cousin Larry and a time when Bronson Pinchot was actually novel.
drwFischerFan2
01-06-2004, 10:00 PM
On behalf of Wings fans, I would just like to thank the Canes for winning this game. ;) No but really, it's good to hear that they won.
Fandragon
01-06-2004, 10:05 PM
I have faith in the Caniac nation. I'll go with Franis, Storr, Wesley, Boogie or...
On that note, I'll predict a goal by Staal. Also, a goal by Jesse. Or a fight. Either one. Not sure what our chances are, but it's my birthday, and any of things would make a GREAT birthday present. :D
Or, y'know, we could win. With a shut-out. That works too. :D :D :D
caniac369
01-06-2004, 10:07 PM
Whoo Hoo!! Go CANES!!!!!
I am starting to see a pattern here- everytime I fly out of state and we play, we loose and everytime I come back we win the first game. Does this mean I can't go to New Orleans in 2 weeks? :eek2:
HOW ABOUT JESSE BOULERICE?
... but what can you say about Boulerice. He may not be dropping the gloves as of late, but he was a force in quite a few of the chances that his line created. Perhaps Lavvy will see this potential and give him some more ice time...
That's my boy!!!! :kiss:
Shell
01-06-2004, 10:14 PM
great post folgers, I definitely agree.. I thought we could at least break the 2 goal maximum with an empty net for a couple minutes!! Blues were definitely not on their game tonight, and I am glad we were there to take advantage of it!!
Boulerice did look good, and Boogie did the fighting, though Markov sure "had a bee in his bonnet". Cole stayed on his skates even with 2 defenders wrapped around him.. Did Kristi finally come in and give some pointers???
Man, I think that may have been a full-out 60 minute effort WITH a win. That's the stuff dreams are made of.
Captain Slack
01-06-2004, 10:17 PM
I have a bad feeling about this game. :sad:
Well, obviously I don't know what I'M talking about! :beatup:
This is the game Lavi needs to hold up as an example of the Canes SHOULD play! For the first time this season, they put up three solid periods of hockey, they pressured the opposition, and kept driving all night! IMHO, this was their best game of the season.
That said....
They only scored two goals and Lavi needs to harp on that. Also, the PP still stinks! I don't understand how we can go two minutes on the PP and can barely keep the puck in the zone, but when it goes back to 5-on-5, we immediately rattle off three or four shots on goal. Can someone explain that to me?
StormShaman
01-06-2004, 10:17 PM
Does this mean I can't go to New Orleans in 2 weeks? :eek2:
No Mardi Gras for you!
On behalf of Wings fans, I would just like to thank the Canes for winning this game. ;) No but really, it's good to hear that they won.
Down with the Blues!! :evil:
Flanman
01-06-2004, 10:29 PM
Tonight...
WE WIN
:eek2: I Guar-ron-DAMN-tee it! :eek2:
You heard it here first.
Fear Coach Lavi!
00Flanagan
Great game tonight. Fun to watch. Fun to cheer for a team putting it all on the line. My and 5 of my cohorts in 328 decided during the anthem to stand THE ENTIRE GAME in hopes of turning our luck. With no one behind us to block their views, we stood the entire game and cheered our lungs out. Maybe a small crowd, but definatley appreciative of what the boys did tonight. Kudos to KAdams, Jaro, Jesse, and others for having such a great game. Let's keep it up for the dirty, dirty Rangers.
Fear Danny Markov's slapper...
00Flanagan
Stormbringer
01-06-2004, 10:35 PM
Also, Ottawa is beating Tampa 4-2 with 7 minutes left in the game, so it looks like we can make up 2 points on the Bolts tonight! Always good when that happens!
Official score: Tampa Bay - 2, Ottawa - 5
http://www.sportsline.com/nhl/gamecenter/live/NHL_20040106_TB@OTT
Nothing else happening in the Southeast Div. tonight. Let's hope TB keeps up their downward slide. :smoke:
Jeff O Rocks
01-06-2004, 10:51 PM
Excellent game.. a great effort by the entire team and they were thrilled when they won... to see smiles on their faces at the end, was very nice...
Now to keep this winning thing going...
jhardman
01-06-2004, 10:59 PM
Now let's see some consistency.
These Hurricanes are consistently inconsistent.
Well isn't that what you want. Consistency?
:D
From the department of redundancy department....
This just in - I think they have been consistent. :-)
SouthernHockeyChick
01-06-2004, 11:00 PM
For those at the game, (I don't know if you could hear this on tv) the prophetic "The puck did not go in the net" over the PA system not more than 10 seconds before the first goal was great. The announcer said that over an earlier chance that I believe some fans thought might have gone in. When the Canes' first goal was scored moments after that announcement was made I felt like saying, "Yes it did!" in response.
Oh, don't think I didn't!! :beatup:
I had a lot of fun and I think they played fairly well. But I do think we were helped along by the fact that (at least in the first) the Blues stunk. Somewhere in the second period I said that if they win this game 2-0 it really means nothing. We still haven't been able to get more than 2 goals and I'm sick of needing a SO from Weekes to win. We simply HAVE to start managing to get those great chances finished!!
I agree with Folg that Kevyn Adams and Murray (or did the officially change that to Markov?) are not going to score on a regular basis. We need all those other guys to score, damn it!!
I don't have any problem with C Adams being scratched (except, like Eileen, maybe my heart hurts for him). I don't think we are a worse team (and we might have the potential to even be a bit better) without him. Jesse is working hard and I have always thought he had some offensive talent but if he's not going to be the enforcer then let's send someone down and bring up Tetarenko (what's he been up to?).
I thought I saw consistent effort and HEART from everyone. Lotsa hustle and, though there still weren't necessarily a bunch of huge hits, there was some physical play. Even Vrbata was being a bit of a pest!! AND he pinned someone along the boards at some point!!
Now, if ANYONE could just start scoring. *sigh*
Still, FUN win!!
Cool Hand Luke
01-06-2004, 11:07 PM
Some things not to change about tonight...
Keep scratching Craig Adams. He was late in covering his man for the 1st goal scored by Phoenix on Sunday. I guess it didn't go unnoticed. I thought Jesse, Jaro, and Bayda, (who hit the post on a beauty of a shot), all had good games tonight and good chances. Why change a thing?
Dixie, leave your hat at home. First time in 4 years I have seen the girl at a game without her hat. Maybe it changed our luck?
The Blues were off their A game, but nice game and effort by our boys.
jhardman
01-06-2004, 11:14 PM
Yep - a fun win. I'll definitely take it. :-)
I definitely was watching the same team, though. We got a tad lucky tonight, and that by itself is a good sign. We were lucky to catch a really good team on a really bad night for them. We were lucky to get a goal from KAdams that should have been an easy stop. I'll definitely take the change in luck. :-)
Another goal from a D-man and a shorty from KAdams. We still have more goals scored by defensemen and special teams situations than our entire forward lines since the introduction of PLav. We have to hope this is just some horrible combination of hideous slumps by our main offensive weapons. The PP was awful again, and it still needs to be called a PPKill team. I agree that that missed empty netter just personified the season thus far for us.
For now, I'll hope that the change in fortunes are going our way. The same team was there, but perhaps the full moon brought some luck, and the luck will stay.
if nothing else, let's hope the locker room is a brighter place tonight.
SouthernHockeyChick
01-06-2004, 11:14 PM
Dixie, leave your hat at home. First time in 4 years I have seen the girl at a game without her hat. Maybe it changed our luck?
Well, OK, if it changed our luck but I didn't think hatless was a flattering look for her. :crazy:
;)
StormShaman
01-06-2004, 11:20 PM
Dixie, leave your hat at home.
Can we leave Dixie at home too?
jhardman
01-06-2004, 11:21 PM
Dixie, leave your hat at home. First time in 4 years I have seen the girl at a game without her hat. Maybe it changed our luck?
Well, OK, if it changed our luck but I didn't think hatless was a flattering look for her. :crazy:
;)
Agreed. Dixie wore her hat during the SCF. That can't be it. :-)
It just goes to show - some people are just hat people. She looks much nicer with one.
MeanGene
01-06-2004, 11:22 PM
Dixie, leave your hat at home.
Can we leave Dixie at home too?
Well, I was going to e-mail this thread to her. :D
StormShaman
01-06-2004, 11:24 PM
Dixie, leave your hat at home.
Can we leave Dixie at home too?
Well, I was going to e-mail this thread to her. :D
I'd like to leave the rest of them at home, too. Not singling anyone out.
goalie33
01-06-2004, 11:34 PM
Cole stayed on his skates even with 2 defenders wrapped around him.. Did Kristi finally come in and give some pointers???
Holy schnikes, I totally forgot that Cole only fell down once. He tried to split the defenders instead of going around, too! Maybe the old Cole is actually back this time.
jhardman
01-06-2004, 11:36 PM
Dixie, leave your hat at home.
Can we leave Dixie at home too?
Well, I was going to e-mail this thread to her. :D
I'd like to leave the rest of them at home, too. Not singling anyone out.
Gene - as long as you and Dixie keep hitting the third deck with shirts, you are keepers.
Please note that I think you should receive some sort of penalty for firing free stuff into the 200 level. Put a forcefield up or something.
One other thing - Dixie zinged a shirt just past me tonight in 105 that was a missile and made it one inch below the concession stand window behind 106. Please keep us posted here on great shirt shots like those. Extra points for putting one in the door of a restroom, into the visiting team radio box, into a concession stand, or a spotlight catwalk. God status for getting one stuck in a place where no one can get it. Entertain us, please, for you are the man.
Cool Hand Luke
01-06-2004, 11:39 PM
I'll stick up for Dixie, she's one of the original Storm Squad isn't she Gene? I like her hat too, but we needed a change. She can wear her hat again after the next time we lose at home. Hopefully that will be a long time coming. :)
Stormbringer
01-06-2004, 11:43 PM
:laugh:
Whatever it was Dixie did, be it not wearing her hat or something else, please tell her to keep it up Gene! :)
One other thing - Dixie zinged a shirt just past me tonight in 105 that was a missile and made it one inch below the concession stand window behind 106. Please keep us posted here on great shirt shots like those. Extra points for putting one in the door of a restroom, into the visiting team radio box, into a concession stand, or a spotlight catwalk. God status for getting one stuck in a place where no one can get it. Entertain us, please, for you are the man.
Again: :laugh:
JHardman said it best, you are da man, Gene. :cool:
MeanGene
01-06-2004, 11:43 PM
Dixie, leave your hat at home.
Can we leave Dixie at home too?
Well, I was going to e-mail this thread to her. :D
I'd like to leave the rest of them at home, too. Not singling anyone out.
Gene - as long as you and Dixie keep hitting the third deck with shirts, you are keepers.
Please note that I think you should receive some sort of penalty for firing free stuff into the 200 level. Put a forcefield up or something.
One other thing - Dixie zinged a shirt just past me tonight in 105 that was a missile and made it one inch below the concession stand window behind 106. Please keep us posted here on great shirt shots like those. Extra points for putting one in the door of a restroom, into the visiting team radio box, into a concession stand, or a spotlight catwalk. God status for getting one stuck in a place where no one can get it. Entertain us, please, for you are the man.
I will do my best!! :spin:
I did have somone at work tell me yesterday that I landed a shirt in her popcorn tub on the floor in the SAS box. I was aiming for that! :D
AbNormal27
01-07-2004, 05:52 AM
I didn't get to watch much of the game, but did get to see bits of it on the Nhl Network. From what I saw the Hurricanes played very well in their own end. They kept the Blues to taking shots from the perimeter and were first to most of the rebounds. Bayda and Staal both looked like they knew their jobs may be at risk and Vasicek made Pronger look like a novice on several ocassions, including one time in the third that lead to a scoring chance. Cole seemed VERY upset with himself for missing that open net and was cussing a blue streak on the bench. That was nice to see, of course the miss wasn't. I'd have to say that Lavi's post Phoenix game talk has lit the fire, now the test will be to see if the boys can keep it lit.
Aaryn
crazy4canes
01-07-2004, 07:52 AM
Yeah, poor Cole talked to himself all the way to the bench. That's good. They should be pissed at themselves for not scoring on a half empty net.
It was nice to walk out of the RBC after a win. Three guys nearly tackled me and my sister with excitement in the parking lot. Too much beer I guess. :crazy: :beatup:
Canesluver
01-07-2004, 07:54 AM
Last night's game was definitely much more entertaining to watch. I love to see them when they're working hard. Boy, Markov's shot was a bullet-- I don't think Osgood even saw the puck until it bounced out of the net!
Here's the N&O's wrap up:
Canes make progress
Adams sets tone as Carolina ends skid
By LUKE DECOCK, Staff Writer
RALEIGH -- At the end of warm-ups Tuesday, the RBC Center scoreboard had the St. Louis Blues up 1-0. The way the Carolina Hurricanes have played lately, that wasn't a bad guess. The Canes hadn't scored a first-period goal in 12 games, while the Blues lead the NHL in that category.
When that changed, so did Carolina's three-game losing streak. The Canes scored two quick goals and Kevin Weekes made 19 saves for his fifth shutout of the year in a 2-0 win.
The win broke a three-game losing streak in which the Canes had been outscored 10-2, but they matched that total in little more than seven minutes Tuesday.
With the fourth line of Kevyn Adams, Marty Murray and Jesse Boulerice setting the tone, the Canes found out for the first time in a long while what playing with a lead is like.
And in the process, they issued an emphatic rebuttal to Sunday's 3-0 loss to the Phoenix Coyotes, perhaps their worst home game of the season.
"We were keyed up," Adams said. "You have to have that mentality of desperation. It's only halfway through the year, but we're at a point where we can't let any points slide."
Weekes, meanwhile, is one short of Arturs Irbe's franchise record of six shutouts in a season.
While the Canes have yet to score more than two goals in any of Peter Laviolette's 10 games as coach, they have won five of those games. That counts as progress.
"We still have a ways to go," Laviolette said. "We still have to get better at a lot of different things. When we do, I think we'll just keep improving."
Tuesday was a start, and it started at the beginning. After Weekes made a point-blank save on Keith Tkachuk and a stretching toe save on Eric Nicklaus during the Blues' first possession, the Canes never let up.
The game was barely five minutes old when a Danny Markov shot hit the stick of St. Louis defenseman Christian Laflamme and slipped past Blues goalie Chris Osgood.
Murray set up the goal, fighting for the puck after Adams won the faceoff, feeding Markov and then setting up shop in front of the net.
It took less than two minutes for the Canes to strike again when Adams slipped a short-handed backhand through Osgood's legs.
Adams now has three short-handed goals on the season and two in the past three games -- as many goals as the Carolina power play has generated in the past 12 games.
With the Blues tired from a game Monday and the long flight afterward, the Canes applied pressure from the beginning.
"It looked like the strength on the puck and the energy levels were at two different levels tonight, and they had a lot more of it," St. Louis coach Joel Quenneville said. "You could tell on the first goal. The puck's there, they beat us to the front of the net, it's in our net."
Said Carolina defenseman Sean Hill: "If we can get leads, we can do our job on most nights."
Carolina's NHL-worst power play remains a problem, going 0-for-5 to extend its current skids to 0-for-22 and 2-for-51, but no one really seemed to mind.
After all, every power play came while the Canes had the lead. That makes their failure to convert a little less frustrating.
And when Erik Cole found the narrow shaft of Osgood's extended stick when presented with an open net in the third period, only Cole -- who hasn't scored in 24 games -- seemed perturbed.
In fact, everything was a little less frustrating for the Canes on Tuesday, maybe because they put out a little more effort in every area of the game than they did in Sunday's 3-0 loss to the Phoenix Coyotes.
And it's a good thing the Canes came out strong early and converted, because the final two periods went more according to recent routine -- 15 shots, four power plays and no goals.
"Did you see the ones that didn't go in tonight?" Laviolette asked. "It's mind-boggling that we have to sweat that out 2-0 at the end, but at least we were sweating it out and it wasn't 0-2."
Edited to add:
Forgot to say that since Laviolette loves stats, he should have noticed how well we're doing when leading at the end of the 1st period-- maybe then he wouldn't need the extra shot of Right Guard!! Aren't we something like 9-0-2 now when leading after the 1st period?
corylav
01-07-2004, 07:55 AM
Great game from the guys ... I can't think of anyone who played poorly tonight. I thought Wesley had a great defensive game, as did Boogie. I don't think we can pour too much praise on Weekes b/c he didn't have to do too much for this SHO, but when he flashed his left leg out in the first to make that stop, it was HUGE! That's the kind of goal that could've taken us out of the game.
Osgood gave up the kind of goal that cost him his job in Detroit ... that might've been the weakest goal I've seen given up this year ... isn't it standard to let the defensemen worry about the second guy and the passing lane? Inexcusable ... but it works for me!
Guyute
01-07-2004, 08:13 AM
k, couple of things.
Man, I think that may have been a full-out 60 minute effort WITH a win. That's the stuff dreams are made of.
bingo. definitely a full 60 minute effort. it's really all you can ask for. come to think of it... all I HAVE been asking for, for the past 100+ games. ;)
next- Dixie w/out the hat?? hrm. I guess that's ok... but give someone else the hat then. Dixie's a cutie, but it's the hat that Really does it. :D so if she doesn't wear it, let someone else try. gotta love a girl in a hat.
Murray's goal was changed to Markov, for those that didn't see it. The defenseman actually tipped it in. good break to start the game.
Kevyn's goal was a monstrous lift... but jeeez... talk about the very definition of a soft goal. Never should've gone in. Bad angle, and a weak backhand. terrible goal for Osgood. oh well... Thanks!! :p
Blues weren't the blues last night. But I'll certainly take it. we played the game we needed to play, other than burying chances, that's for sure.
StormShaman
01-07-2004, 08:28 AM
It seems that Lavy's ear-blistering after the Phoenipeg game had its intended effect, because everybody showed up to play last night and really took it to a Blues squad that seemed to take them way lightly until it was too late.
Will this give the team life? We'll see.
As for the Storm Squad comments I made earlier, well.... I would rather we be known for hockey than for having scantily-clad cheerleaders. But I guess that's just me. *shrug*
Guyute
01-07-2004, 08:34 AM
um... I don't think we're called the Carolina StormSquad. We DO have an NHL team. it even shows up on NHL teams on NHL.com. 'magine that!
besides, I hope the few of us that mentioned Dixie aren't getting flack, I really do. I'm sure you've seen at least one of the 18 women's threads we have here.
I could also say I hope our hockey players are known for playing hockey, and not modeling. *shrug*
Shell
01-07-2004, 08:38 AM
I agree guyute, and as a person and not speaking as a mod, I thought that was a really rude thing to say TO a storm squad member.
If it was that much of an embarassment all the other teams wouldn't be adding them on fast and furious. JMO
StormShaman
01-07-2004, 08:42 AM
For the record, I don't like them on other teams either--so I'm not singling anyone out. Cheerleaders are just not something that goes with hockey, IMO.
Cool Hand Luke
01-07-2004, 08:51 AM
Just to bring up the subject one more time, the original reason I mentioned Dixie and her hat, or missing hat, was to show that the absence of it was a change of luck for us. I didn't mean to say that she was hot or not hot with the hat or without it. My original post wasn't clear. Sorry about that.
:)
guinevere
01-07-2004, 08:52 AM
Chiming in late (as usual). I unexpectedly got to go to the game and had a great time for the first time in a long time. I still am very concerned that none of our scorers have scored in such a long time and that our penalty kill has been better for us offensively than our power play has. It was great the effort was there for all three periods but we really need to hunt down whoever is putting the force field in the crease because these empty net failures are extremely frustrating.
I'm not as astute in hockey analysis as many of you but I don't think the forechecking was where is should have been and we still did a lot of turning the puck over then skate to the neutral zone to wait for it to come back out.
Still - great time was had by all. I think I'm starting a pool as to what period and minute Cole will first fall off his skates. Dixie had a bad case of hat hair (or lack of hat hair) and I think the announcer should call every non- goal over the PA system just to see if it will make Kevyn Adams put one in. It could become a Pavlovian response. :beatup:
ausoleil
01-07-2004, 09:22 AM
Agreed. Dixie wore her hat during the SCF. That can't be it. :-)
We did lose that series, right? :angel:
Canesluver
01-07-2004, 09:23 AM
I think Dixie skipped the hat last night because of the tumbling. Wasn't she the one doing back flips at one of the Intermission?
ausoleil
01-07-2004, 09:30 AM
As for the Storm Squad comments I made earlier, well.... I would rather we be known for hockey than for having scantily-clad cheerleaders. But I guess that's just me.
Maybe if the hockey team was successful on the ice, the Storm Squad would return to their place as an adjunct to the real product -- the game.
Thing is, it is a successful promotion, and it doesn't detract from the game to have them there. It isn't like Dixie goes skittering acorss the ice while play is underway or something. Anyway, ANYTHING that helps this team get people in the seats and attention is a good thing, IMHO. .
AbNormal27
01-07-2004, 09:32 AM
Dixie and her "Hat". Just 2 more reasons (like I really needed or wanted any more) for me to get down to Raleigh and take in a true "home" game.
Aaryn
PS: Aren't we venturing OT and towards the "Men Only" thread?
Guyute
01-07-2004, 09:50 AM
well, it's not really OT if the last 2 pages have consisted of pretty much nothing but this subject. /shrug.
lol
but, I did just add to the mens thread.
StormShaman
01-07-2004, 09:53 AM
As for the Storm Squad comments I made earlier, well.... I would rather we be known for hockey than for having scantily-clad cheerleaders. But I guess that's just me.
Maybe if the hockey team was successful on the ice, the Storm Squad would return to their place as an adjunct to the real product -- the game.
I'm sorry--again, perhaps it's just me, but even when the team was successful on the ice people talked a lot about the Storm Squad and the skimpy outfits on the female members.
Hockey and cheerleaders don't mix. I've said it before and I'll say it again, and I'm sorry if people don't like it.
Guyute
01-07-2004, 10:09 AM
yeah, and people are always talking about something. when we were winning a lot they were also talking about us being a fluke. so what?
you should put your energy towards something else, imo.
if you're really that disgusted by it, have a talk with marketing. as a male who has been watching/playing hockey for 25 years now, going to watch a game AND see some young good looking women cheering on the team does NOT detract from my hockey experience. I have never spent more time at a game looking at SS members than I have the game itself. If all I wanted was scantily clad women, I'm Sure I could find something on tv that would fit.
and as ausoleil said... I'm sure it helps sell an occassional ticket now and then.
do you not like/watch other sports? why is it that hockey is not a "cheerleader" sport, but others are? I don't see much logic other than you not wanting good looking girls with their belly showing at a hockey game. although you can find those in the crowd as well.
so I'm not sure what the solution is, if it is indeed considered a problem.
crazy4canes
01-07-2004, 10:14 AM
I don't mind Dixie except that she NEVER shoots a t-shirt my way. Why is that? I mean, does she have to shoot it into the rafters every time? Besides, if you don't like looking at all the girls, ya know the Storm Squad is made up of a few guys as well (just ask MG ;)).
StormShaman
01-07-2004, 10:16 AM
do you not like/watch other sports?
I have been known to watch baseball--and that doesn't mix with cheerleaders either. Same with Aussie Rules Football.
Football and Basketball, yes. But hockey? Ummm, no.
Whatever.
jhardman
01-07-2004, 11:20 AM
As for the Storm Squad comments I made earlier, well.... I would rather we be known for hockey than for having scantily-clad cheerleaders. But I guess that's just me.
Maybe if the hockey team was successful on the ice, the Storm Squad would return to their place as an adjunct to the real product -- the game.
I'm sorry--again, perhaps it's just me, but even when the team was successful on the ice people talked a lot about the Storm Squad and the skimpy outfits on the female members.
Hockey and cheerleaders don't mix. I've said it before and I'll say it again, and I'm sorry if people don't like it.
I don't have a problem with it. I hated the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders when they showed up, and now look what has happened. it's not like this was an original idea. I don't like arena naming rights either, Same reason. Don't think it belongs in the game. Totally agree with the perspective.
One of the cool things about attending over 100 Dallas Cowboys games was the lack of beer sales in the stadium. There was almost never any issue with stadium security/unruly fans. Personally, I get tired of going to every game and dealing with drunks too and having f-bombs launched in front of my kid. But I'd rather go to the games and I guess I have to put up with it if I want to watch hockey in person.
CaneZilla
01-07-2004, 11:45 AM
do you not like/watch other sports?
I have been known to watch baseball--and that doesn't mix with cheerleaders either. Same with Aussie Rules Football.
Football and Basketball, yes. But hockey? Ummm, no.
Whatever.
I probabably shouldn't fuel this inferno but, the Canes weren't the first Hockey team to use cheerleaders. We may have been the first in the NHL but I know there are many HS teams in the US that have them. The other thing is this is a professionel sports franchise and a BUISNESS. As a buisness they found a valuable marketing tool in the SS and if the extra revenue they supply helps keep my beloved Canes here I'm all for it. (I guess it helps that I find Candace & Lili gorgeous, No offense Gene you're just not my type :smoke: ) My only gripe with the SS and all the promotions marketing in general is that our section 332 NEVER EVER gets anything shot, handed, tossed, drug, or anyhow placed even NEAR us.
As for the game, That was the most solid 60mins I've seen all season. I loved their hussle. I think the Blues came out a bit flat and we took advantage, Yeah Us! Jesse,Marty,Ryan all played great! I was so hoping O would get scratched but he actually played better(not hard) than he has of late. I love that our D-men are shooting as no one else save K. Adams seems to be able to find the net. I hope the fire&brimstone speech Lav gave after Phoenix continues to ispire full 60min games like last night from here on out. I was SOOOO happy when stepping out into that bitter cold last night.
CaneZ
Flanman
01-07-2004, 11:48 AM
do you not like/watch other sports?
I have been known to watch baseball--and that doesn't mix with cheerleaders either. Same with Aussie Rules Football.
Football and Basketball, yes. But hockey? Ummm, no.
Whatever.
I probabably shouldn't fuel this inferno but, the Canes weren't the first Hockey team to use cheerleaders. We may have been the first in the NHL but I know there are many HS teams in the US that have them.
CaneZ
Actually, we were not the first. The first, believe it or not, was the New York Islanders. They actually had figure skating girls in orange and blue figure skating outfits skate on the ice to clear the excess ice with the shovels like our ice crew does at commercial breaks. So, this idea was born in a "hockey market". For my opinion, the Storm Squad is a nice addition. Thanks for being part of the team guys.
CaneZilla
01-07-2004, 11:58 AM
Actually, we were not the first. The first, believe it or not, was the New York Islanders. They actually had figure skating girls in orange and blue figure skating outfits skate on the ice to clear the excess ice with the shovels like our ice crew does at commercial breaks. So, this idea was born in a "hockey market". For my opinion, the Storm Squad is a nice addition. Thanks for being part of the team guys.
I stand corrected! :p
BTW, You guys in 328 looked great on the Jumbotron and as always, thanks for making my times at the games even more enjoyable with your antics. I think Captainslack and Fandragon would agree. (Fandragon is the other LGC'er you met with me outside the eye.)
EyeOfTheStorm
01-07-2004, 12:05 PM
was it just me or did boughner get beaten up trying to defend his own crease for about 2 minutes BEFORE he finally got tired of it and retaliated? ..just didnt seem to me like that was a fair penalty call..sorry to get back on subject and everything :)
SouthernHockeyChick
01-07-2004, 12:07 PM
My only problem with the Storm Squad (and I'm sure this isn't their decision) is when they shoot t-shirts into the crowd during the game. Intermission is fine but I hate it when they do it during a stopage in play. Number one, because I think it's pathetic that people will scream louder for a free t-shirt than for the team (although, lately, I can see why and at least they are screaming for something!). Number two because I'm always distracted by it and miss the face-off trying to figure out why one section is screaming. You'd think I'd learn. :roll: <---See, rolling my eyes at myself!
Other than that I have no problem. Hey, I figure if I get to look at Jeff O'Neill at all the games my hubbie is entitled to check out Barbie at all the games. Too bad Jeff is in 3 feet of protective equipment and Barbie is walkng around in her jammies. :beatup:
Honestly, if I had my choice there would be no in-game promotions, no Jumbo-Tron extras (just the replays).....just the game. That's all I really want and the rest is really just a distraction to me. But I'm sure there are lost of folks that are very entertained by the extras and being that I don't rule the world (yet) they have to be considered as well. And I understand why many people don't think cheerleaders go with hockey. I've heard many a person use the SS to slam on the Canes (they seem to ignore or not know about the Islanders Ice Girls....maybe cause the Islanders haven't been to the finals lately?). But, I understand they are trying to attract new fans with the extras and I'll deal with it. Just like Cam does. But we still have the right to ***** about it, don't we?
All I really think we need is Gene and Dixie.....OK, and Barbie for the hubbie. I'm most entertained by you guys by far. Dixie is the best at getting the t-shirts into the 3rd level. And I totally agree with whoever said we need a no-t-shirt forcefield around the 200 level. Like those luxury box people need free stuff!! ;)
EDIT: Sorry to get back off-subject. I type slow.
Guyute
01-07-2004, 12:11 PM
was it just me or did boughner get beaten up trying to defend his own crease for about 2 minutes BEFORE he finally got tired of it and retaliated? ..just didnt seem to me like that was a fair penalty call..sorry to get back on subject and everything :)
that was great. he stood there for a GOOD 10-15 seconds, just looking at the guy as he repeatedly double-arm-shoved him. and he didn't move, just stood there. that was a riot.
agentpreppie
01-07-2004, 12:22 PM
was it just me or did boughner get beaten up trying to defend his own crease for about 2 minutes BEFORE he finally got tired of it and retaliated? ..just didnt seem to me like that was a fair penalty call..sorry to get back on subject and everything :)
That was one of my favorite parts of the game showing that some of the players had gotten their heads on straight. That guy was doing everything he could to move the Bogey Man, pushing, slashing, you name it and Bogey did NOTHING until the guy put a fist in his face. Obviously he had gotten under the guys skin with his play but wasn't going to get thrown in the box by himself for a stupid instigator penalty. I was laughing like crazy during the replay seeing how hard that Blues guy was working it.
Shell
01-07-2004, 12:26 PM
Actually, we were not the first. The first, believe it or not, was the New York Islanders. They actually had figure skating girls in orange and blue figure skating outfits skate on the ice to clear the excess ice with the shovels like our ice crew does at commercial breaks. So, this idea was born in a "hockey market". For my opinion, the Storm Squad is a nice addition. Thanks for being part of the team guys.
Nope, we were before the Islanders (I remember posting on this board when the Islanders started it)
The Islanders started it in 2001 and we started it in 1999. Not sure if we were the first, but I do know we started before them.
(sources: Pepsi Ice Girls (http://www.gameops.com/content/interview/02/03.htm), Storm Squad (http://cheerleading.about.com/library/weekly/aa122202a.htm))
I LOVED the Boogie play. He was getting rammed, cross-checked, punched, sliced, and diced and stood there as if he was waiting for a bus or something.. I couldn't even concentrate on the play because I was enthralled watching him heh
Guyute
01-07-2004, 12:32 PM
don't forget Dallas started having Ice Girls at games too.
well.... maybe "having" is not quite the right word....
was it just me or did boughner get beaten up trying to defend his own crease for about 2 minutes BEFORE he finally got tired of it and retaliated? ..just didnt seem to me like that was a fair penalty call..sorry to get back on subject and everything :)
Shall I quote the Flanster? :)
*ahem*
Fear Bob Boughner! lol :smoke: He stood there and patiently got hacked at for a small eternity when I would've knocked that kid's teeth into his throat. Good on ya, Bobby, for waiting, and even better on ya for smashing him into the ice like a Fruit Wrinkle. :evil:
don't forget Dallas started having Ice Girls at games too.
well.... maybe "having" is not quite the right word....
Wee perv. :p
Guyute
01-07-2004, 12:55 PM
wee? dear Rio, I thought you'd know me by now. ;)
::grabs a pickaxe and tries to re-shape the tracks, though it's probably too late::
caveman
01-07-2004, 01:02 PM
was it just me or did boughner get beaten up trying to defend his own crease for about 2 minutes BEFORE he finally got tired of it and retaliated? ..just didnt seem to me like that was a fair penalty call..sorry to get back on subject and everything :)
Is this the face of someone who gets easily riled?
http://www.carolinahurricanes.com/images/SecondImages/BOBB_03_big.jpg
CaneZilla
01-07-2004, 01:14 PM
Is this the face of someone who gets easily riled?
I swear I can't help but think of FogHorn Leghorn sayin' "Now go away son you're bothering me".
http://www.dragg.net/users/pennywitt/foghorn/foghorn12.gif
Shell
01-07-2004, 01:16 PM
don't forget Dallas started having Ice Girls at games too.
and Calgary has the Fire and Ice Girls whewwhew
just came across this lol
NHL Replaces Refs With Large-Breasted Young Women
12/8/03
NHL President Alf Ziegler announced today that all of the league’s current referees will be replaced by young women with large breasts.
“Other sports have cheerleaders,” said Ziegler, flanked by the three former Hooters waitresses who will serve as the league’s new premier officiating crew. “All we have is ugly, imcompetent middle-aged men out there in striped shirts.
“Hell, if I wanted to see that, I’d just call a meeting with the guys in our marketing department.”
Head of the NHL player’s union Tork Regionault had no comment on the change, but did request the phone numbers of all the new referees so he could consult with them before passing judgment.
As part of the makeover, hockey referees' traditional uniforms will be replaced by zebra bikini tops and black biker shorts.
Ziegler says the new refs will also not be required to know how to skate.
“We look at that as part of the fun,” chuckled Ziegler. “I mean, the only thing people are more bored of watching than holding penalties are anorexic teen figure skaters doing triple lutzes and frowning at the judges.”
Ziegler then turned to the former Hooters waitresses and with a smile said, “With Bambi, Suzie and Chrissy here stumbling around the ice, the visuals should be pretty spectacular.”
Bambi admitted that in addition to not knowing how to skate, she and the other new refs boast little or no knowledge of hockey.
“Alf told us it wasn’t a factor,” she said, smiling at Ziegler.
“Hey, most hockey penalties are so random anyway,” Ziegler shrugged. “What’s holding, anyway. I dunno. Don Koharsky sure as hell doesn’t know. So what’s the point in pretending anybody understands it.
“Hell, most fans can’t even figure out where the puck is half the time, much less where there’s a holding penalty going on.”
Another rule change will dictate that games continue during fights, according to Ziegler.
“It’ll be great” gushed Ziegler, startling Bambi as he enthusiastically flailed his arms. “Guys skating around brawling piles of other players laying on the ice, beating the hell out of each other, bleeding profusely.
“That’s entertainment!”
As if that won’t be enough, Ziegler said the NHL is also instituting changes to create more violence.
“In the middle of each period, we’ll send a giant robot zamboni out to clean the ice. Anybody who gets caught under it...well, I guess you could say the home team will have a new logo, blood red. By the middle of the season, every team will just be called the Blood and Guts.
“I like that girls, don’ you,” smiled Ziegler turning to the confused Hooters trio. “The Boston Blood and Guts. The Montreal Blood and Guts. The Edmonton Entrails.”
“Don’t forget breasts,” giggled Bambi.
HubbyHatesHockey
01-07-2004, 01:19 PM
was it just me or did boughner get beaten up trying to defend his own crease for about 2 minutes BEFORE he finally got tired of it and retaliated? ..just didnt seem to me like that was a fair penalty call..sorry to get back on subject and everything :)
But did anyone else see where Boogie's stick was? It was rammed firmly up... well, let's just say it was between the other guy's legs. ;)
SouthernHockeyChick
01-07-2004, 01:22 PM
Is this the face of someone who gets easily riled?
Actually, it looks like the face of a guy who has smoked way too much pot. :D
Or maybe he's just saying "Hey, watch the threads, man!"
Stormbringer
01-07-2004, 01:23 PM
What Boogie did to the pipsqueak that kept poking and prodding him with the stick was nothing short of awesome. Dude deserved every bit of retaliation he got...
http://www.missfantastic.com/stormbringer/reports/games/2003-2004/01-06-04.htm
And Chad/CaneZilla, that Foghorn Leghorn picture is RIGHT ON about how Boogie looked last night! :laugh: :smoke:
Honestly, if I had my choice there would be no in-game promotions, no Jumbo-Tron extras (just the replays).....just the game. That's all I really want and the rest is really just a distraction to me. But I'm sure there are lost of folks that are very entertained by the extras and being that I don't rule the world (yet) they have to be considered as well.
Just wanted to chime in on this part of the Dixie/SS/what-not discussion within the thread...I don't mind Jumbotron extras if they're hockey/Canes related. As a matter of fact, I think stuff like the Forslund Focus can be very effective at getting a crowd into the game. A classic example being when they played the FF about Jeff Daniels at the November 23rd game against Tampa Bay...the way that got the crowd on their feet and cheering was simply spectacular and easily made for the greatest moment of that game. But yes, stuff like the Hardees Burger Races could most certainly go.
Just my two bits... :)
SouthernHockeyChick
01-07-2004, 01:25 PM
But yes, stuff like the Hardees Burger Races could most certainly go.
That's totally what I was referring to. I like the Forslund Focus, the "Ask the Canes," the Fan Focus and all that stuff, too. It's the stupid animations and games down in the corner of the arena that I could live without. But, I bet kids like them.
Shell
01-07-2004, 01:26 PM
stuff like the Hardees Burger Races could most certainly go.
I would certainly agree, but even something so silly as that is individual preference.. we had some girls in front of us that stood and cheered like crazy for the Mountain Dew in thePepsi race, yet never even clapped for Vrbata's hat trick.
As a mechanic, I am deeply offended by racing hamburgers. :evil:
nccanes
01-07-2004, 01:38 PM
Actually, it looks like the face of a guy who has smoked way too much pot. :D
Or maybe he's just saying "Hey, watch the threads, man!"
http://www.tridead.net/canes/images/smilies/rofl.gif http://www.tridead.net/canes/images/smilies/rofl.gif
Thanks SHC - I needed a laugh today. :D
EyeOfTheStorm
01-07-2004, 01:40 PM
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOS FRA BA.
...anger management allusion.. harhahrar
Stormbringer
01-07-2004, 01:41 PM
As a mechanic, I am deeply offended by racing hamburgers. :evil:
:laugh:
crazy4canes
01-07-2004, 01:43 PM
As a mechanic, I am deeply offended by racing hamburgers. :evil:
I'm sure Mo is offended that you're offended.
moonstomper
01-07-2004, 01:45 PM
As a mechanic, I am deeply offended by racing hamburgers. :evil:
youd be singing a different tune if they let you soup them up :D
Guyute
01-07-2004, 01:48 PM
Actually, it looks like the face of a guy who has smoked way too much pot. :D
that's exactly what I associate with boogie's looks most of the time. lol.
and shell, I just saw the article you posted. lmfao. nice find :D
caveman
01-07-2004, 01:49 PM
But yes, stuff like the Hardees Burger Races could most certainly go.
That's totally what I was referring to. I like the Forslund Focus, the "Ask the Canes," the Fan Focus and all that stuff, too. It's the stupid animations and games down in the corner of the arena that I could live without. But, I bet kids like them.
Uh... doesn't Hardees pay the Canes for the racing burgers spot? And doesn't Pepsi pay the Canes for the "under which Mountain Dew is the puck" spot?
CaneZilla
01-07-2004, 01:50 PM
But yes, stuff like the Hardees Burger Races could most certainly go.
That's totally what I was referring to. I like the Forslund Focus, the "Ask the Canes," the Fan Focus and all that stuff, too. It's the stupid animations and games down in the corner of the arena that I could live without. But, I bet kids like them.
I'd much rather those stupid promotions ie: Burger Races, Pepsi Shuffle, Squel factor, etc. went away but if they insist on having them, Hook those of us in the Cheap Seats up! :D
Guyute
01-07-2004, 01:51 PM
yup, it's alllll about advertising dollars.
same reason they spent millions of dollars for the ribbon board. == more advertising.
ausoleil
01-07-2004, 03:16 PM
More advertising = more revenue = a better chance for you to see NHL hockey in Raleigh.
The thing is, it pays money to the franchise and there are those who actually enjoy that sort of stuff. The dasher boards and even the KOHO logos on the backs of the sweaters make money somehow.
As much as the purist might like it to as it once was, it shall never be that way again.
JaroFan
01-07-2004, 04:04 PM
what drives me the most crazy about the games is that you unscramble a player's face, with 3 clues and half the time the crowd's giving you the answer and you win a Jersey! Meanwhile, the rest of us pay $100+ for ours. I saw someone do that eat a jar of salsa and just win a prize pack (hat, t-shirt, puck). That seems a tad bit more difficult, imo.
jhardman
01-07-2004, 04:11 PM
But yes, stuff like the Hardees Burger Races could most certainly go.
But, I bet kids like them.
Unfortunately, yes. At least mine do.
SouthernHockeyChick
01-07-2004, 04:24 PM
Uh... doesn't Hardees pay the Canes for the racing burgers spot? And doesn't Pepsi pay the Canes for the "under which Mountain Dew is the puck" spot?
Yep, just as RBC Centura pays for it to be the RBC Center.....but it's still the ESA to me. Of course it will exist and of course it's to our benefit but that doesn't mean I can't and won't complain about it on a message board amongst friends.
JaroFan....what drives me the most crazy about those win a jersey things is that it's usually some moron who doesn't even know the answer!! Where do they find those people? "Ron Francis is number 2 all-time on the NHL assists list. What player is number 1?" "Uhhhhhh....." I mean come on!!! I always hope they just have stage fright or something. :crazy:
But, anyway, as long as there is a hockey game in there somewhere I'm happy. :spin:
nccanes
01-07-2004, 04:36 PM
But yes, stuff like the Hardees Burger Races could most certainly go.
But, I bet kids like them.
Unfortunately, yes. At least mine do.
Alas they do. I totally ignore them now (because I'm in the SHC training school of blocking out stupid crap ;)) and have been successful in doing so. The other night (Detroit?) there was a big reaction to the race, my kids included, and I asked what the deal was. Apparently the racing pucks had tied or something and the kids thought that was stupid. :crazy: :beatup:
SouthernHockeyChick
01-07-2004, 04:39 PM
The pucks tied? WTF?? Were they trying to make us feel better about all the ties in our record? :crazy:
talkingcanes
01-07-2004, 04:50 PM
every time they show the racing pucks, the man a couple of rows behind me yells "here comes the Ed Grimly run" :)
every time they show the racing pucks, the man a couple of rows behind me yells "here comes the Ed Grimly run" :)
Ed Grimly.... lol!!! I must say. :D
As a mechanic, I am deeply offended by racing pucks. :evil:
moonstomper
01-07-2004, 07:14 PM
every time they show the racing pucks, the man a couple of rows behind me yells "here comes the Ed Grimly run" :)
Ed Grimly.... lol!!! I must say. :D
Ed Grimely was awesome, he reminds me of the time I almost met Pat Sajak...
Stormbringer
01-07-2004, 08:16 PM
every time they show the racing pucks, the man a couple of rows behind me yells "here comes the Ed Grimly run" :)
Ed Grimly.... lol!!! I must say. :D
As a mechanic, I am deeply offended by racing pucks. :evil:
Again: :laugh:
You never fail to crack me up, girl... :D
wolfnuke
01-08-2004, 03:18 AM
As the guy that stands on the landing next to the corner where they do those "eat _______ the fastest" and the "name that player" games sometimes those players do get stage fright. Then again there are the ones that have never seen a hockey game and just happened to be picked to play.
My only problem is that they use two entire pies in those contests. I mean come on, just use one and split it in half and feed us poor security people the other half. Then again I can live without it since I get the Storm Squad wiggling on either side of me for most of the game. :beatup:
stewart123
01-08-2004, 06:26 AM
Then again I can live without it since I get the Storm Squad wiggling on either side of me for most of the game. :beatup:
Security guy, huh? I bet Elvis, Bigfoot, and Osama Bin Laden could walk arm-in-arm past you at certain points during the game with nary a glance.. or perhaps I'm just projecting my own inclinations.
Did they give the guy at the Phoenix game a prize when they misposted the question on the display board? (I think for the Best Seat in the House contest.) He answered the written question correctly, but the announcer read a different one.. and they gave the other guy the win.
wolfnuke
01-08-2004, 06:42 AM
I dunno, the storm squad aren't that great....
But in other news, they usually give the 'loser' a small gift just for being there, something like a shirt or coupon for a burger. For the Phoenix game I was up on press row so I'm not sure about that particular incident.
Jeff O Rocks
01-08-2004, 06:44 AM
Recently my sister and I were putting lids on our drinks and a girl came up and asked us if we would like to ride bikes on the ice during intermission... we quickly declined!! :eek: :crazy: I can see that they might have stage fright...
ausoleil
01-08-2004, 07:55 AM
Here's some perspective about the goings-on in the arena: you COULD be out of town and watching Trip Tracy put ice cream on his shoe in between periods...he did that during the Blues game. Having Strep Throat sometimes gives you little gems like that.
Now, hmmm, Dixie or Trip, Dixie or Trip... :D
Guyute
01-08-2004, 08:55 AM
yeah, we saw that too. what a gem indeed.
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