Ticket Plans for 2004-2005

[nccanes]

I think was mentioned in some other threads, but figured it deserved one of its own.

As mentioned by ticket reps and advertised on the Jumbotron, the Canes are going to offer an additional 20% discount for existing STH that pay for their seats in full by April 30th. The materials should be rec'd in the mail in the next week or so.

I had to call my ticket rep today to ask a question about a credit I had and he also mentioned that STH will only pay for 3 preseason games. One game will be free.

I believe he said something about a 10% discount available for people on the payment plan, so I'm guessing you'll get that if you commit early, but don't wish to pay in full (don't know that for sure).

I guess we'll find out soon.

[Guyute]

of course. they'll do EVERYTHING they can to 1) get people back period. 2) get money in that can be used as leverage should the need arise during CBA workups.

[talkingcanes]

a woman who sits in front of me said her ticket rep told her about the 10% discount on the payment plan when she balked at paying in full by 4/30.

I'm still going to complain about having to pay full price for 75% of the preseason games. Seems to me having them half price is a reasonably good way to throw us a bone for sticking with them :roll: I don't know why it aggravates me so to have to pay full price for those games, but it really does.

[Flanman]

I spoke with Scott Tippins at the last game, and I mentioned our oft used idea of reduced concessions for STH, and he told me , "You will be even happier with what we are going to do. We just got back from the NHL Marketing meetings and we (the Canes) will have the best STH package in the league this year." Scott is a bit of a personal friend of mine, so I expect to see some very cool stuff. Glad to hear that they are going to do something for us after a 2nd disappointig season.

[Guyute]

I think Scott is a good guy...

but... I'm going with the old yet more oft true than not phrase.... "I'll believe it when I see it."

[MeanGene]

I believe the plan is that if you put money down for tickets, and the season is delayed or cancelled, you can get a refund or earn 2% interest until the season starts. That is the plan anyway.

[jhardman]

I'll believe it when I see it as well. One huge question I have is what would happen if we pay in full and then get a replacement squad. Sorry, but I don't trust these people as far as I can throw them based on my history with them.

But I'll acknowledge the bone. It's a start.

[nccanes]

I'll believe it when I see it as well. One huge question I have is what would happen if we pay in full and then get a replacement squad. Sorry, but I don't trust these people as far as I can throw them based on my history with them.

But I'll acknowledge the bone. It's a start.

I can't imagine that you don't believe it. YOu really think the Canes would falsely advertise to the entire arena?

I guess a healthy dose of cynicism is okay, but at least they are doing SOMETHING. I'm not surprised people would be cautious with their ticket choices and I don't blame them at all, but when you are offering a 20% discount I just can't really see the downside. It's not like they are RAISING ticket prices for those that don't pay in full.

[goalie33]

The discount is enough that I'm tempted to bite on this, basically because I know I'm addicted enough to do it anyway. The Islanders' deal with free playoff tickets is a cool one, but who knows if we'll make the playoffs next year (not being pessimistic, just saying), and the Isles will probably bow out in the first round again. I hadn't considered what would happen with a replacement squad, but I guess I'll think about it more and talk to PJ when I get the stuff in the mail.

[jhardman]

I'll believe it when I see it as well. One huge question I have is what would happen if we pay in full and then get a replacement squad. Sorry, but I don't trust these people as far as I can throw them based on my history with them.

But I'll acknowledge the bone. It's a start.

I can't imagine that you don't believe it. YOu really think the Canes would falsely advertise to the entire arena?

I guess a healthy dose of cynicism is okay, but at least they are doing SOMETHING. I'm not surprised people would be cautious with their ticket choices and I don't blame them at all, but when you are offering a 20% discount I just can't really see the downside. It's not like they are RAISING ticket prices for those that don't pay in full.

I believe the offer because they announced it, but I am suspicious of the fine print that I don't yet see because it isn't in my e-mail or snail mailbox. I'm glad they are doing something, for sure. But that 20% discount is offered if you pay in full up front before anything happens with the CBA/lockout situation. That's a leap of buyer faith in a front office that has not exactly gone out of its way to embrace its core paying fans.

Am I cynical? Sure.

I'm waiting a bit to see....

[nccanes]

They've got a page devoted to the 2004-2005 ticket plan stuff on ch.com now:

http://www.carolinahurricanes.com/news/news.asp?articleid=1215

I haven't looked over it in fine detail, but it looks like there will be more flexibility with the mini plans (exchange dates) and they LL North and South will now be available.

There are a number of payment options and discounts that go along with the full and mini renewal/purchase!

They are trying it appears! :)

[Shell]

Thanks for posting Eileen!! I emailed to make sure we would be eligible since we're grandfathered into the cheap seats

[VandyCane]

Actually LLN and S have both been available for 24 games plans, but I do think LL S is new for 10 game plans. I am very happy to see the ticket exchange program for mini-plans. :)

[jhardman]

So, has anyone actually received the mail about the 20% discount in their mailbox or e-mailbox?

If so, I'm in my typical spot as a valued full season ticket holder. In other words, not a peep from my mailbox, e-mailbox, or ticket agent.

[tommy]

So, has anyone actually received the mail about the 20% discount in their mailbox or e-mailbox?

If so, I'm in my typical spot as a valued full season ticket holder. In other words, not a peep from my mailbox, e-mailbox, or ticket agent.

On our seats today, they taped a piece of paper that said if we got those seats as season tickets next year we would recieve an additional 20% off the already-low season ticket holder price. I'm not sure if they're talking about us actually renewing the seats, or if anybody can. It was somewhat vague. That's all the info we got.

[VandyCane]

I received an e-mail today with the same info posted by nccanes. Snail mail info supposedly will arrive next week.

[Solracer]

I also noticed this at the bottom of the page ..

In the event of an NHL work stoppage, any funds left on an account with the Hurricanes
will earn 2% simple interest. Let us be your bank and earn interest at a competitive rate!
Full refunds will also be available.

[tommy]

I also noticed this at the bottom of the page ..

In the event of an NHL work stoppage, any funds left on an account with the Hurricanes
will earn 2% simple interest. Let us be your bank and earn interest at a competitive rate!
Full refunds will also be available.


Must be a benefit of being sponsored by RBC Centura. ;)

[nccanes]

I was told that the materials were being sent directly from the printer. I suspect there was an issue there because I think they expected us to receive them.

Presumably we'll get the same flyer/pdf that is on the website, with a nice letter from JR. ;)

[Canesluver]

I saw my sales rep at the game tonight. He said the mass mailing company they use is based in California. The mailings were scheduled to go out last Thurs. and Friday (from California), so they should be arriving any day.

[Guyute]

They are trying it appears! :)

Yeah, it's *something*.

anyone else think it's a bit of a joke though, and mainly to make themselves appear to be doing *something*?

I mean, pay in FULL in a month? yeah, I'm sure lots of people will be able to do that. :roll:
grats to you if you can.

[Jeff O Rocks]

I mean, pay in FULL in a month? yeah, I'm sure lots of people will be able to do that. :roll:
grats to you if you can.

**goes to backyard and digs up hidden money** :p ;)

[nccanes]

I do think there will be people taking advantage of the promo. We probably will for at least 1 full ST. I know lots of folks that are just trying to decide which plan, what price level, etc, but will be using one of the discounts.

Even if you can't swing the full payment to get the 20%, you can still get 10% with one of the other payment plans (not the longest montly plan, but still a plan).

Having ticket exchange dates for all mini plans, getting more choices for the smallest mini plans, getting a free preseason game are all things they didn't offer this season. Coupling that with the 10% and 20% discount offerings, I take that as trying.

Put it this way, I'm going to get more for my dollar next season than last. That's improvement (to me).

[goalie33]

The Islanders got 90% renewal on their STs and 1,500 new STHs with their free playoff ticket offer, which isn't worth much more than our 20% off considering they'll bow out in the first round again.

[corylav]

The 20 percent savings make it worthwhile to put your ST on a low-interest credit card ... I think a lot of people will do it.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

If I'm coming up with the money I can't imagine it would be too too hard for most people who could afford tickets in the first place. /shrug

We're getting two full season tickets for $300 more than we paid for the 24 plan this season? I'm pretty damn happy about it.

[CaneZilla]

Well, I'm hoping to take advantage of the discount(c'mon tax return). What kills me is that we want to add 2 more seats to what our group buys...bringinging it up to 6 seats. They won't just allow us to get the 2 seats beside us which are not STH seats(so Guy they won't do EVERYTHING). We will have to wait for the select-a-seat to get those if they're still available. I feel we should get the 20% discount on the new 2 seats but if we can't get the 2 seats where we want them and they won't commit to them before select-a-seat I don't see how we can (and I know the discount is FOR renewals) and it seems stupid as it would be a guarunteed 6 seats instead of 4.

[Guyute]

If I'm coming up with the money I can't imagine it would be too too hard for most people who could afford tickets in the first place. /shrug


sorry chick, but what do YOUR finances have to do with anyone else's?

I'm VERY happy y'all are getting full season tix next year. but for shell and I (who get paid once a month) to drop that much dough in one shot (considering we were just told TODAY that this offer was good for our seats), is asking quite a bit. That's w/out even considering our uncertain financial situation-- you know what I mean.

I think if they REALLY wanted to help holders out, they would've had this in place sooner is all.

[nccanes]

If I'm coming up with the money I can't imagine it would be too too hard for most people who could afford tickets in the first place. /shrug


sorry chick, but what do YOUR finances have to do with anyone else's?


I think she meant that if someone in her position (1 person still in school) was able to take advantage of it, that there will likely be a good number of people that do -- as opposed to your suggestion that it was kind of an "appearance" with little expected response to it.

I think it will have the desired response, it will get people to think about and possibly commit early.

[Jeff O Rocks]

Well I am not worried ....with them missing the playoffs again and the way they play at times.. renewal is NOT even an option..

just seeing if you guys are paying attention..

[guinevere]

Well I am not worried ....with them missing the playoffs again and the way they play at times.. renewal is NOT even an option..

just seeing if you guys are paying attention..

Okay, Where's Mona and is there a pod in your basement? :eek:

[rons#1fan]

Guin...just read the fine print...

oops spelled your name kind of funny!

[guinevere]

I read the fine print - just pretending to go along.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

I think she meant that if someone in her position (1 person still in school) was able to take advantage of it, that there will likely be a good number of people that do -- as opposed to your suggestion that it was kind of an "appearance" with little expected response to it.


Yeah, that's what I meant. Not that EVERYONE can do it but that I think most people who were going to renew anyway will come up with the cash or use a credit card and pay it when they have the cash available.

As a student, I get paid exactly twice a year: January and September when the financial aid comes in. Mr SHC's check is usually spent before we get it (meaning life-maintenance bills are laying there waiting to be paid when his check comes) so it's not like my finances are ideal at all. But, we do have enough in savings to pay this out. I'll just have to hope that nothing major comes up until we get that savings replenished. But, then, I knew ticket renewel was coming up soon anyway so I've been squirreling some back for a while. If I want to do something, I have to plan ahead.......or pay finance charges. {It's amazing how much your credit card company will lower your APR when you keep paying your balance off, though. "Oh God! We aren't making any money off her! Lower that rate!!" :D } I imagine most STHs were considering how they were going to pay for next year already, anyway. I mean, it's not like we've had much good hockey to think about. :-\

But honestly, I think this boils down to priorities more than finances. Unfortunately, I'm still enough of a masochist to consider my Canes tickets a HUGE priority. And I have no one else's well-being to consider other than my own (and the hubbie but he agrees).

[Jeff O Rocks]

Well I am not worried ....with them missing the playoffs again and the way they play at times.. renewal is NOT even an option..

just seeing if you guys are paying attention..

Okay, Where's Mona and is there a pod in your basement? :eek:

:kiss: You paid attention.. you get a gold star AND sparkly socks.. ;)

and SHC, the Canes have made me Mastercard's best customer!! ;)

[jhardman]

I've used the low interest credit card option all along to finance my season tickets, and I think if you have enough credit, you can make it work.

However, I think buying tickets for this team on credit is very questionable at this point, and I'm not going to do it again. The lockout alone (and all the ramifications that could eminate from it) are enough to make it a bad investment at this point. I believe as I always have - that this deal is out there for corporations to purchase tickets asap so they can get a good start on what the STH base will be next year.

Is the deal a good one? From a pure dollars standpoint, sure. As long as you are sure you want to renew no matter what's on the horizon. I still want to know about the "replacement players" scenario.

I've seen my $55 (STH discount) seats sold all year at better discounts to special interest groups, and I want to see specifics in the plans and I want to see it in writing. Period. I have absolutely no trust in the ticket office and the business end of this franchise when it comes to its core individual season ticket holders. Their focus has been, is, and always will be the corporate account. Before I re-up, I wanna see something explaining why they don't hire enough ushers, why they don't have enough staff to man their ticket offices correctly, and why they don't maintain a consistency of services to their individual customer base.

Yes, the 20% deal is a start. Keep it on the table after the lockout is decided, and I'll be convinced.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Yes, the 20% deal is a start. Keep it on the table after the lockout is decided, and I'll be convinced.

Fat chance on that one, I'm sure.

[goalie33]

Yes, the 20% deal is a start. Keep it on the table after the lockout is decided, and I'll be convinced.

Fat chance on that one, I'm sure.

Definitely. The Islanders free playoff ticket deal was only if you re-upped by sometime this week/over the weekend (I forget which day). If they make the playoffs, the free tickets are for this year, and if they don't they're for the next time they get to the postseason.

[jhardman]

I'm sure there's no chance that offer won't stand. I'll bet it doesn't stand until the mass mailing supposedly goes out.

No way I re-up on that deal without an assurance of the policy should the NHL decide on option #3 and play with replacement players. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :-)

[talkingcanes]

well I know there are people who got their information in the mail yesterday. I am not one of them, but I am hoping today will be the day.

[Shell]

we got ours yesterday, I haven't had a chance to go through it yet though

[nccanes]

I got mine today, but there is a big screw up. The invoice that is supposed to indicate what seats/price I had last season, but it has someone else's info including the name, address, email address, and account number and pin (for the Account Manager), is for someone else. One side of my invioice has my name and address (that's the part the was seen thru the window in the envelope), but the other side is totally incorrect. I guarantee I'm not renewing for $12k worth of seats in the Center Ice Premier sections. :eek2:

When I sat down to see if anyone else had that problem here at lgc, I found that the Canes ticket office has already sent me an email admitting the problem.

The print solution company that produced your invoice package has identified to the Hurricanes that your invoice contained incorrect customer information pertaining to your seat location, account number and address. Please disregard this initial invoice once you have received it. The error has been fixed and a correct renewal packet is being delivered. You will be receiving your updated renewal package within the next 5-10 business days.

If you would like to view next season's prices at 20% off, 10% off or your current standard season ticket discount you can do so now by skating on-line to http://carolinahurricanes.com/custom/rad06D39.asp .

NEW for the 2004-05 season you can now view, make a payment or enroll in a payment plan by accessing your season ticket account on-line via the Caniac Account manager at http://carolinahurricanes.com/custom/radE8E23.asp .



I guess I'll be nice and not automatically renew this fella's very expensive seats for him! ;)

Anyone else have this mistake?

[talkingcanes]

I got that email too. my information is correct on the invoice I can access through the Caniac Account. I'll just wait for the corrected one to come in even though apparently some folks got the email, but their invoices are accurate??

[nccanes]

I got that email too. my information is correct on the invoice I can access through the Caniac Account. I'll just wait for the corrected one to come in even though apparently some folks got the email, but their invoices are accurate??

I haven't checked my online account/invoice. I presume it is correct. It sounds like the printer screwed up on one side of the invioce (your name appears on both sides). I suspect you'll get the mistaken paper invoice too. See if you can outdo my $12,050 worth of tickets? (And a free parking pass!)

[talkingcanes]

I got that email too. my information is correct on the invoice I can access through the Caniac Account. I'll just wait for the corrected one to come in even though apparently some folks got the email, but their invoices are accurate??

I haven't checked my online account/invoice. I presume it is correct. It sounds like the printer screwed up on one side of the invioce (your name appears on both sides). I suspect you'll get the mistaken paper invoice too. See if you can outdo my $12,050 worth of tickets? (And a free parking pass!)

$12,050 worth of tickets? I'll bet he would be very grateful if you'd just take care of that for him ;) I just want to see my total with the 20% discount in writing. I know it's true, but the Caniac Account won't tell you the discounted total until you are way into the payment system and I want documentation before I get into that :eek2:

[goalie33]

I got that email too. my information is correct on the invoice I can access through the Caniac Account. I'll just wait for the corrected one to come in even though apparently some folks got the email, but their invoices are accurate??

I just glanced at mine during dinner when it came yesterday, but everything looked right to me (seat location, price, etc.). Maybe I didn't look at both sides. :beatup:

[nccanes]

I got that email too. my information is correct on the invoice I can access through the Caniac Account. I'll just wait for the corrected one to come in even though apparently some folks got the email, but their invoices are accurate??

I just glanced at mine during dinner when it came yesterday, but everything looked right to me (seat location, price, etc.). Maybe I didn't look at both sides. :beatup:

Only 1 side had all the info (seat location, price, acct #, pin, etc.), the other side was just name and address (for the see thru envelope). You sound like you got the right thing.

[VandyCane]

I still haven't received anything. I think they finally realized I'm the reason for the RBC jinx! :crazy: :sad:

[SouthernHockeyChick]

I got my renewal packet today and I must say I'm pleasantly surprised and overall very happy with the terms.

*renew and pay in full by 4/30 and get 20% off
*renew and sign up for a payment plan by 4/30 and get 10% off
*plus, get an NHL All-StarGame puck signed by Eric Staal
*24 packs now include a pre-season game at no extra charge (don't know how that works for full ST....maybe someone can chime in with that info)
*10 packs now available in LL South

If there is a lockout you have several options:
*request a full refund
*leave your money on account with the Canes and earn 2% interest until they begin playing again. That interest can then be applied to future balances or towards additional seats.....doesn't sound like you can get the cash.

*you may request a refund on any cancelled single games and any money left in your account continues to earn interest

It all sounds like a good deal to me. I mean, I'm sure I'd rather the highest price seats be $50 rather than $125 but I'm being realistic here.

My only question is that if hell were to indeed freeze over and the owners somehow came out of this with a completely new economic system for the league.....one that *should* allow them to reduce ticket prices like they keep saying they want to....where does that leave us pre-paid folks? Not that that will ever happen.....:roll:

[talkingcanes]

I haven't gotten my info yet but I heard this year 1 preseason game was free and you pay full price for the other 2-3. paying full price for preseason games gripes me, but I guess a free one and 20% off for the rest is better. we've paid full price for all the preseason games the last 2 seasons.

[nccanes]

My info says 1 preseason game free.

The other thing I noticed is that they have the $12 section available for full STH again I think (that's from memory, I don't have it in front of me).

With the 20% off, the price for a full ST would be $412.80. Not bad.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

The other thing I noticed is that they have the $12 section available for full STH again I think (that's from memory, I don't have it in front of me).


Yep, all sections of the arena are available for full STH. 10 and 24 packs are a little more restrictive but $12 seats are available for all three. It's mostly the more expensive section(s) in each level that are missing from the 10 pack (Mezzanine in upper level, Club Ledge and Center Ice Club and Sideline Premier and better in LL). 24 pack holders can get Mezzanine and Sideline Premier, though.

[Canesluver]

I haven't checked my online account/invoice. I presume it is correct. It sounds like the printer screwed up on one side of the invioce (your name appears on both sides). I suspect you'll get the mistaken paper invoice too. See if you can outdo my $12,050 worth of tickets? (And a free parking pass!)

We're part of the messed up batch, too! The incorrect one finally showed up today...... and yes, Eileen, I can outdo your $12,050.....

The invoice we got was for the Coca-Cola bottling company..... 4 front row seats in Sec. 106, 4 seats higher up in Sec. 105, and 2 seats in Sec. 328.... total tab..... $33,819.50!! :eek: ..... but only $26,624 if they pay by April 30!!! ;)

Check the account manager thing, and we're perfectly fine there. It's certainly a nice flyer. I love how the cover's personalized. It looks like Staaly's saying, "Shawn XXXXX, renew your seats!" The order blank for Coca-Cola is actually a separate piece of paper, so I think they just had a bundle that were mis-stuffed.

Kinda makes up for the fact that we're losing ANOTHER sales rep. Got an Email today from Andrew Matko, who we got after Doug made his lateral move into promotions, saying that he's leaving immediately to work "outside the area," whatever that means.... wonder who we'll get next....

[RIO]

"Shawn XXXXX"

I thought that was your adult sci-fi movie name. :evil: :D

[Canesluver]

"Shawn XXXXX"

I thought that was your adult sci-fi movie name. :evil: :D


he,he,he.... nope! But one time in college on a show I was in, for some reason I can no longer remember, I didn't want to use my real name in the program. The name I used was "Anita Lei"
http://tridead.net/canes/images/smilies/lol.gif

[RIO]

*snerk snort* bwuahahah!!! :D

[nccanes]

We're part of the messed up batch, too! The incorrect one finally showed up today...... and yes, Eileen, I can outdo your $12,050.....



:eek: :eek2: :eek: :eek2:

One thing I find interesting (in a bad way) is that people now have the acct#/pins for other people's accounts. Now I know Shawn is an honorable Caniac, but what happens if she goes crazy and decides to take me and 2 other people to the game to sit on the glass and forwards the tickets to herself from Coca-Cola's account?

Seems like they need to a wholesale pin change. I haven't even checked, can we change our own pin numbers?

[talkingcanes]

I have looked to see if you could change your pin when we first got them, but I couldn't find any way to do it. it would be a good idea to change them all now. maybe everyone who got someone else's pin number should suggest it to their rep. I'll do that if I ever get an invoice of any variety :mad:

[Canesluver]

I have the same concern, too, re: our PIN's.

I guess I'll write the main ticket guy, since we don't currently have a sales rep.....

[Hockeydad]

I have not been an STH but feel like I've sat in most locations and it seems theres pros and cons to nearly all of them. I'd like to purchase at minimum a 24 pack this year but having a hard time targeting a section- that best balance of proximity to the ice and smallest dent in my wallet.

Further, being a fraction under 6'3" I would like to plant my tush in a seat without being forced into the huddled mass position. And you know, I've watched from a suite and having your own loo is great but I find that was about it in terms of what I got out of it.

I'd like to draw upon the unlimited resevoir of RBC Center experience here: What, in your opinion ( hopefully somewhat grounded in fact, please) are the best bang for the buck seats in the house ? The best sightlines ? Legroom ?

I mean its not as simple as center ice next to the glass ! ( At least I hope not since I cannot afford that for 3 seats )

[SouthernHockeyChick]

IMO, the best for the price, the best sightline and the best for legroom are the middle three sections (pretty much between the bluelines) of Balcony Premier...so 323, 324, 325 and 303, 304, 305. If you can get mezzanine in those sections, even better. I would avoid row G in 323, 325, 303 and 305. That can put you with your knees against a concrete wall which isn't as good on leg room. Also, can put you behind railings. My personal favorites (if you can't get THE middle sections of 324 and 304) are the back rows (J) of 323 or 325. There, you can stand up all you want, lean on the wall behind you, it's not nearly as high up as the back rows on 303-305 (row N I believe) and if you listen hard you can hear Chuck. ;)

I do think best view depends a little on your personal preferences. I am one of those who likes to see the game from a little further away in order to be able to see the flow of play better. Being able to see plays develop is more important to me than seeing the speed and the force of the hits, which is what you get down lower, IMO. I do love center ice, LL, in the back few rows but the leg room down there isn't nearly as good, IMO. And the price is much easier to take up top.

[4DFan]

My eyesight is pretty bad so while I've enjoyed the few extra games my husband and I have gone to with upper deck tickets, I prefer the LL seats that we had for our 24 game pack. I love watching the defense and my husband is a Weeks fan so we went with LL North, sec 115 row v, kinda in the curve. The cool thing about upgrading to the 24 pack this year was that we got to do the select-a-seat thing which really helped in finding seats that had more legroom for my husband and reasonably good sight lines.

Our experience is that it was pretty easy to change around what you wanted to do at the select-a-seat. The indications we've gotten from our sales rep is that as long as you are fairly reasonable, they aren't going to rules lawyer the discounts. We're renewed at the LL North price right now, but there's a good chance we'll move to the sideline premire area, combination of my eyesight and Lavi's more offensive style. I know many of you don't trust anything from the canes unless you get it in writing, but my thinking is that the worst that happens is we keep seats we were fairly happy with and the canes don't get another $600 from us.

I don't think there is a bad seat in the LL, to me that's what you are paying the premium for. I seems to me that there are a lot more things to be careful of in the UL, I definately wouldn't be comfortable doing UL tickets if I couldn't pick them out.

[goalie33]

Personally, I think the upper corners are the best bang for the buck in the arena. You get good perspective of the ice for $17 a game (pre-20% discount), and you're in prime goalie-heckling position. I don't like watching from the side of the ice because sometimes it's hard to get perspective on cross-ice movement. If you really enjoy watching the game from a strategy perspective, I'd suggest sitting directly behind the goal up top, because you can see EVERYTHING. When you're on LL, in my experience, lots of things get obscured if you're anywhere but the side of the ice. As far as legroom and things, I think it truly varies from seat to seat. The seats in my row are all different widths, and legroom can depend on everything from the geometry of the concrete under your seat to those confounded bars we have in UL. This is completely personal preference, of course, but when we were in Atlanta I felt uncomfortable sitting down low because I couldn't see what was going on. :beatup:

[Solracer]

Think I will be switching sides on my Mini-plan since the seats behind the non open end are now advailabe to the mini-plan holders :)

[Guyute]

If you really enjoy watching the game from a strategy perspective, I'd suggest sitting directly behind the goal up top, because you can see EVERYTHING.

that's where we sit. other than center ice on 200 (the BEST view, bar none -imo-... ashame that it's a frigging board room there. well, that and the seats are a little pricey).. I wouldn't move.

I like halfway up the LL, on the corners, that's not bad... but, 314 is our home.
factoring in A) we like seeing the above-view, to watch the structure of the game, and B) you can't beat $12 seats (we were grandfathered in, before they denied those as STH. so we've been there for a few years)... I definitely wouldn't change our location.

[e2ipiand1]

The best legroom I've found is in the LL on the sides right behind the little concrete wall (row E or F I believe) the one downside is that you don't have any cup holders there. I sat there during the last eight games of the 2000-2001 21-game pack and the Playoff series against the Devils.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Lack of cup-holders makes me happy. That's what I always bang my freakin' knees on! :beatup:

[Guyute]

yup, I can't stand the cupholders.

[Alicia]

The best legroom I've found is in the LL on the sides right behind the little concrete wall (row E or F I believe) the one downside is that you don't have any cup holders there. I sat there during the last eight games of the 2000-2001 21-game pack and the Playoff series against the Devils.

The best LL legroom & view is at the top of most sections. I sit at the top of 102, and when people start crowding around behind me, waiting for a stoppage in play so they can go back to their own seats, I almost always hear someone remark on how awesome the seats are on my row.

[tommy]

I like my seats at the bottom of 108 because I don't have to worry about bothering people in front of me, so I can kick against the wall, and I have a little extra leg room. Plus, it's low enough to be near the action, and low enough where the protective netting isn't distracting (I still can't stand that stuff), and just high enough to get a good glimpse of the whole ice. So I love them! (Of course, I'm not the one who's paying for them. :beatup:)

A word of warning about corner seats, though, especially down low: it is hard to see when the play goes to the far corner on the same side, so sometimes you have to look up at the jumbotron.

[RIO]

yup, I can't stand the cupholders.


well if you'd leave your cup on, then you wouldn't have to have something to hold it with. silly rabbit.

[tommy]

yup, I can't stand the cupholders.


well if you'd leave your cup on, then you wouldn't have to have something to hold it with. silly rabbit.

wait... i thought that meant the other kind of cup... oh crap, no wonder i've got so many sexual harrassment lawsuits...

why didn't anyone tell me those letters were just for counting off the rows... and i thought the third row up was soo great...


(is that too far?)

[goalie33]

A word of warning about corner seats, though, especially down low: it is hard to see when the play goes to the far corner on the same side, so sometimes you have to look up at the jumbotron.

This is my biggest problem with seats down low. Unless you're right behind the goal, if you're looking directly through the glass you're not going to see all of the ice, period. It's fantastic on your end, but the other end view is terrible. I sit up on the glass or a few rows behind it when NC State plays at the RBC, and I prefer the view from up top by far.

[Canesluver]

Okay, here’s another opinion:

I, myself, don’t like sitting in the 3rd tier, because I feel too removed from the action. The ice seems so far away from up there. I don’t feel as involved. It bugs me that I see so much crowd in my peripheral vision—not enough ice. To me, if I have to sit that far away, I might as well stay home and watch the game on TV. You do have a bit more leg room up there, but the seats are narrower and harder. If you see me in the 3rd tier, I’m usually just visiting w/friends.

Even wearing my glasses, my depth perception isn’t all that great, so I REALLY don’t enjoy sitting behind the goals (upstairs or down). I feel like I can never tell how far away they are from the goals. I just don’t like that perspective.

Our Season Tickets are in the SW corner of the lower level. I love it there for many reasons: great view of the South goal where we shoot twice – our seats are the middle of the row ½-way up, right where the building is curving so we sit at a diagonal to the ice, which means we can see all the ice without moving our heads. I like that I don’t have hardly any crowd in my peripheral vision—mostly ice. I really enjoy the smell of the ice, hearing the blades of the skates, and even hearing the players/coaches calling out to each other, seeing the expression on the players’ faces. I feel way more involved down there. Seats are also wider and cushier, and I LOVE the cupholders so I don't ever have to worry about knocking anything over. Can I afford it? Not really—that’s why I have a 2nd job 9 months out of the year!!

Sometime I feel, though, like I have to defend myself a lot on message boards by folks who try to lump all the 100-level people together as uninterested “suits.” That doesn’t describe us, and I get my section going quite often. We’re not all the “whine & cheese” crowd down there—right TC?

Okay… there’s my perspective! :beatup:

[Alicia]

Sometime I feel, though, like I have to defend myself a lot on message boards by folks who try to lump all the 100-level people together as uninterested “suits.” That doesn’t describe us, and I get my section going quite often. We’re not all the “whine & cheese” crowd down there—right TC?

Yep, we're not all "suits"...I LOVE my seats for many of the same reasons as CL, but chose our seats mainly just to be on the end where we shoot twice.

[RangersCanesFan]

A few words of advice on the RBC. I currently sit in 116, Row T. A GREAT location to watch the game. HOWEVER, and that's a HUGE HOWEVER, a lot of people who sit, or should I say have tickets in that area, constantly make aisle runs during the play, so maybe I see 75% of the actual game if I'm lucky. I don't know if it is just the section, or the location in the section, but a lot of the time I'm staring at people in the aisle, rather than being able to see the play on the ice.

And for this reason, I am not renewing my ticket. Call me a bad fan or whatever, but I'm tired of paying $65 to see people waltz in during the middle of the first period and not care who's view they block.

I sat in 114 for the NCAA basketball games. The sightlines were really good, however, the leg room left a lot to be desired. I'm 6'3". On Saturday, I didn't bring a jacket, so there was barely enough room. On the Thursday, I had a jacket, and basically my left leg was pinned.

Last season I sat in 106. A good seat too, although I was a bit low, and sometimes play in the far corner wasn't visible.

On a matter of personal preference, I do not like the upper level at the RBC. That's not a put down of anybody who sits up there, or anything like that. I usually like sitting in upper levels of arenas to see plays develop. For me, there's something about the upper level configuration of the RBC that gives me horrible vertigo. I don't know if it's the pitch, or the fact the walkway is kind of disjointed with the uneven glass, but I don't feel that comfortable up there unless it's in the mezzanine.

[StormShaman]

And for this reason, I am not renewing my ticket. Call me a bad fan or whatever, but I'm tired of paying $65 to see people waltz in during the middle of the first period and not care who's view they block.

Easier than simply moving to another section, I suppose. :roll:

If I can afford season tickets next season, I'll be right back in my old seat in 111. Bell and everything. :D

[talkingcanes]

I'm in 111 (my seats disappear for basketball games so there are no cup holders.....yay!!!) and staying put. I love sitting in the LL and close to the ice so I can see the players and the game really well. Like CL, I have pretty bad depth perception and I don't see the game well from the 3rd level. I sat in 108, 2nd row, for 2 seasons and loved it, but you do have to watch the Jumbotron for action in the far right corner, but I got so used to it that I had to adjust when I moved behind the goal!

I just think it's such fun to be at a live hockey game, that I'm always glad to have the chance even when I gripe and whine about the play afterwards :evil: I love having the NHL in Raleigh and glad to be able to go. Wish everyone could and wish everyone wanted to! A full arena is a loud and happy arena :beatup:

[nccanes]

I've sat all over the place myself. Two season of miniplans in 113 previously, first year of (shared) full ST in 304 (center ice) this season. I really am fine with the view from up there, but I find I have to do a lot of sitting on the edge of my seat and rocking back and forth for the sightlines around the people in front of me. It's very hard on my kids.

I think our "group" is not going to be back in total next season (one family is moving out of town), so I'm considering moving our seats to the upper corners. I like not having to look back and forth (like CL said) and the price is really good.

I'd consider going down to a miniplan in the LL, but I like the perks of being a full STH enough (I think) to figure out a way to stay one and I can't afford full ST down there.

Gotta figure it all out, because I want to take advantage of the big discount. 29 days to go. ;)

[talkingcanes]

OK, am I the only person left in Canedom who hasn't received their information yet :mad: If they want my money in 29 days, they need to get me some information. I'm not doing anything until I see my totals in writing.

[JaroFan]

OK, am I the only person left in Canedom who hasn't received their information yet :mad: If they want my money in 29 days, they need to get me some information. I'm not doing anything until I see my totals in writing.


Mine was wrong, and we haven't gotten the updated version yet.

Last year we sat in 113, this year we moved over to 128, Row D. While everyone is correct in that you can't see much on the other end, I have seen 2 absolutley amazing overtime victories (Stall's & O'Neill's goal) that absolutely made my season. I love being at that end. That being said, I hate having the temporary seats. Anytime someone needs to get in the row, the whole row of seats moves & jostles. And i'm probably in the minority but I really want cupholders! I hate leaning over constantly to pick my cup up off the floor. As for now we're renewing our same seats but we will go to the select-a-seat night to maybe move back a few rows.

The couple times I have sat UL i have been tempted to throw food at my parents below so it probably wouldn't be wise for me to stay up there! :cool:

[apolinar]

326 is my section for one main reason... it is almost impossible to ding my 2 and 1 year olds in the head with a puck way up there. 326 gives the perfect view of watching fans in the lower level get dinged in the head with the puck which is unfortunate and not something I would ever want to experience. :crazy:

Also I chose this section for the "scout" seat location. You don't have to turn your head much to see the action, and for the most part you can sit straight back in your chair and not worry about the view in front of you being obscured unless you have a newbie at their first game getting a pretzel during play. My biggest complaint is there is almost never a traffic cop at the entrances to these sections so people seem to roam in and out of the sections regardless of time of play. 326 in general is pretty subdued from the fan craziness standpoint. Cheers won't start from there, that's 328's job next door.

[RangersCanesFan]

StormShaman,

Sorry. It's just been an extremely frustrating season this year sitting there. I'm a single, going myself. I'm going to watch hockey, and when my enjoyment of hockey has been taken away by people who feel their beer can't wait until a play stoppage, their two year old's walking must take precendence over people watching the game, and their arrival at the game is more important than the game itself, I'd much rather watch the game at home on my couch. The only reason I'm in 116 is because I'm sitting behind two people I know. If I move, I'm going to be around people I don't know, and what if it's worse there, or I'm sitting around a bunch of a-holes?

Get two tickets, you say? It's almost impossible to find a person who actually wants to go to a Canes game. That happened to me the first year I had tickets. I had two and ended up eating one almost every night.

I'm toying with the idea of getting two in a 10 game pack, just to keep priority and playoff rights, but I really don't know. It's still throwing $400-some away.

I sent an e-mail to my ticket rep about the situation. He said he was going to forward it on to arena services, because he didn't like hearing about losing a STH because of other fans. Well, I see today that they're trying to entice corporations to buy up large tickets for the "best" games. Ok, wonderful. So, either there's going to be a glut of tickets available outside, or we're going to see a lot more rude, corporate types who are there to be seen, rather than to see the game.

[Guyute]

the whole problem is that there aren't enough people who GO to games to make the org pay for ushers at every section anymore.

we used to have one on each side of us. this entire season, we had people walking all around us during play. so either they need more volunteers who will work the section doors, or they need to find a way to increase attendance so that they can pay to bring back the ushers.

it IS extreeeeemely annoying. and I'm more likely to get in a fight b/c of a fan who doesn't care about disturbing my enjoyment of a game, than I am with a rude fan from a visiting team obnoxiously heckling everyone around.

however... if we don't renew next year, it's Only because of the soon to arrive laddy... not because of anything at the RBC. to each their own.

[VandyCane]

Guyute and Shell, don't let a new kid keep you from going to hockey games! My now 6 year old daughter went to her first hockey game at age 6 weeks in Greensboro--Canes vs. Bruins, first round of playoffs, which of course went to overtime. Now she diagrams hockey rinks with imaginary players in correct positions for fun!

As to RCF's original question. We sit lower level corners. I like feeling close to the action, but didn't want to spend a fortune so we buy the cheapest lower level seats. My dad is 6'1 so the first year we picked an aisle seat so he could have more leg room. Bad mistake! We had to get up constantly to let people go through, especially the lady that went to get a beer, seemingly at the beginning of a power play. This year we purposefully picked the middle of a row and that worked out great since we only get up at intermission. We sit in 108 as well and the fans in that section are fine for the most part. Some visiting fans get quite obnoxious, but the security guards stand at the bottom of the section at ice level, so they don't let things get out of hand. Hope that helps.

[corylav]

My daughter's going to be 1 in a couple weeks, and during the first year it was awful tough for us to take her to a 7 p.m. or later game. She usually wants to be asleep by the time we get there :)

[Guyute]

well plus, picking the tyke up will be an issue. we need both of our salaries, so by the time the season starts, the kid'll be with someone.. so we'll have to leave from work, go pick him up, then get to the game.

unless we have him somewhere in the park, that's almost impossible.

[StormShaman]

I'm a single, going myself.

And when I go to games, I go by myself. Your point?

I'd much rather watch the game at home on my couch.

http://www.thewolfweb.com/photos/00197017.jpg

If I move, I'm going to be around people I don't know, and what if it's worse there, or I'm sitting around a bunch of a-holes?

OK, and? You get to know your seatmates. You train the ushers to NOT send people down while play is going on (I did that when I sat in 111--you would be amazed at the positive results when you repeatedly say to errant ushers "Excuse me, who is your supervisor? I wish to speak with him/her about your refusal to enforce arena policy by allowing people to go down to their seats while the puck is in play.") You learn to deal with anyone that turns out to be assy. That's what I did when I was stuck near a bunch of morons during the first year in Raleigh and my season tix were in 301--I learned to deal with the assy folks and got along swimmingly with the rest.

Get two tickets, you say?

Please to not be putting words in my mouth, kthx. I never said it, nor did I even imply it.

:roll:

[corylav]

well plus, picking the tyke up will be an issue. we need both of our salaries, so by the time the season starts, the kid'll be with someone.. so we'll have to leave from work, go pick him up, then get to the game.

unless we have him somewhere in the park, that's almost impossible.

same here ... I feel your pain ... but the joy will be better than any hockey game. good luck :D

[RangersCanesFan]

Storm, there was no need for the sarcastic tone. The you was not directed at YOU. It was a figure of speech. Sorry if you took offense.

It's not necessarily the ushers' fault in my sections. It's people that walk down with two beers in their hands and have no clue as to what row or what seat they're in, and they stand in the aisle and stare, all the while blocking people trying to watch the game. Then there are the others who feel it's perfectly okay to get up while the play is going on, walk up the aisle, see someone they know and start a conversation while in the aisle. I agree with what guyute has said. I'm much more liable to get into a fight with someone who continually gets up and blocks my view than a Caps fan or Leafs fan who might be loud and obnoxious, but doesn't hinder my view of the ice.

I really haven't had seatmates all season. I have the two I know in front of me. I have a few extremely unfriendly folks in back of me. This is totally unlike 01-02, where my whole row and the whole row in front all had 21 game plans. Not to mention, those people were very friendly. As soon as the price went up, they all left.

I'm sorry if you take offense to what I said. Most of my friends have been priced out of the building. I don't know a lot of people over there anymore. It's not the same crowd in the lower bowl as it was two years ago. I just don't enjoy watching aisle gymnastics when I'm trying to watch hockey. I just don't see it getting better.

[StormShaman]

there was no need for the sarcastic tone.

If you don't want snark, then please don't invite it by putting words in my mouth or acting like you're somehow above me on the evolutionary scale.

The you was not directed at YOU. It was a figure of speech. Sorry if you took offense.

Thank you, I...oh nevermind.

It's not necessarily the ushers' fault in my sections. It's people that walk down with two beers in their hands and have no clue as to what row or what seat they're in, and they stand in the aisle and stare, all the while blocking people trying to watch the game.

Try yelling "DOWN IN FRONT!" sometime? Seems to work for me.

Then there are the others who feel it's perfectly okay to get up while the play is going on, walk up the aisle, see someone they know and start a conversation while in the aisle.

See above.

[Guyute]

same here ... I feel your pain ... but the joy will be better than any hockey game. good luck :D

I have No doubt. and that's saying a lot coming from someone who was born with a stick in hand. :)
thanks

*sits back and watches the rest of what's going on in this thread carefully*

[Hockeydad]

well plus, picking the tyke up will be an issue. we need both of our salaries, so by the time the season starts, the kid'll be with someone.. so we'll have to leave from work, go pick him up, then get to the game.

unless we have him somewhere in the park, that's almost impossible.

Theres places in the park, the issue is the cost- we used to use the place that was called the Enrichment Center, off Alexander drive.

[Guyute]

yeah, issue is a bit of a deciding factor. we have a place right next door for the businesses in the park. problem is, it would basically add a 2nd mortgage. :eek:

thanks for the name tho

[Hockeydad]

I always thought of the day care cost as the Mercedes I couldnt drive, certainly could have funded one...

[Guyute]

lol, a kompressor at that. mmmmm... kompressor.

[JaroFan]

This is really weird, we got the wrong info on our renewal plan (like a lot of people), so I thought i'd be nice & email the person so that they didn't sit around wondering. Well he got our info! I didn't realize it would be an even swap of mistakes.

[nccanes]

Okay, I have a question. Can some of you 24 game planners chime in on the games selection given in that plan? Did you get all the Fri/Sat night games and most of the "big" games?

We're stilling mulling possibilities. We can't swing four seats for full STs (no matter the location) and we're toying with 2 full STs or a 24 game plan (4 seats) if our group falls apart.

Also, if someone would like to chime in with select a seat experiences for 24 game holder, I'd appreciate it. We'd likely be looking in 329 for seats whether it's mini or full.

Thanks!

[Shell]

I have been very pleased with the selection of games for the 24 pack for the last couple of years. We definitely got most weekend games, and all of the big games we wanted. I can email you the wallpaper I use that has all the home games listed and I colored in the ones we had tickets to so you can easily see what was included if you want.. comes with a great pic of Brindy ;)

[nccanes]

Cool Shell, that'd be great!

I really like the STH benefits, but that just might not be in the cards this season. We'll see.

BTW, for those keeping track...this doesn't mean that we are reducing our committment, we had 1 full ST and we split with people adjacent to us. We were only "comitted" to 41 "tickets" (even though we went to far more). If we did 4 seats for a 24 game plan, we'd be committed to 96 "tickets".

[SouthernHockeyChick]

I really liked the games included in the 24 pack this year as well. And, I thought the select-a-seat thing was a little better than I was expecting....more avilable than I thought there would be.

[jhardman]

Another fan who is an STH in the lower bowl complaining about inept or absent ushers being told how to handle the situation quite sarcastically by someone else who didn't experience it this season. Thanks for the usual condescension and sarcasm that I've come to expect.

Quite frankly, this season in the lower bowl was a complete disaster from a STH perspective. If you had 'em other years, don't assume this year was like the rest. It most definitely was not. Here are a few "highlights":

1) For than half of the games this season, there was no usher at the entrance of my section. I sit on the end of an aisle at the top of a section, and I spoke to the usher during the games where one was there.

2) When ushers were there, they consistently allowed people to come down into the bowl when the puck was still in play. And, of course, when there was no usher there, the people came down anyway.

3) The friendliness of the lower bowl is all but gone. That's because the bulk of it was empty and the old STH's had either all left or moved up to the upper deck because of the cost.

I've been an STH quite a while - several years. (Missed year #1) It's difficult to move forward with an investment right now because they have to make a lot of positive changes. I can stand a team that doesn't win as long as they are playing hard or bringing peple up who do, and the Canes generally do that. But the constant reinforcement that our fandom and support of the team is not appreciated really grates on me, and not maximizing the in-arena experience for all fans who come into the game just totally befuddles me.

On a side note, I've finally had enough of StormShaman's crap. Later, gators. Enjoy, "moderators". May she remain the only true fan, and continue to treat the rest of us like idiots and get away with it.

[StormShaman]

Another fan who is an STH in the lower bowl complaining about inept or absent ushers being told how to handle the situation quite sarcastically by someone else who didn't experience it this season.

Oh, but I have--and I experienced it in every other season in Raleigh, as well. Everything you describe has happened in every other season--it's not just confined to this season.

I also suggest that you have your sarcasm detector checked, because the only thing sarcastic about my posts to RangersCanesFan was the Christian Slater pic.

But whatever. :roll:

[talkingcanes]

I finally got my packet today. The 20% discount saves me significant money and I like that! I'm just glad to have gotten the information :D

[nccanes]

I'm still waiting on the corrected invoice, so you are now ahead of me TC!

As far as the treatment of the sideline premier seatholders, I think the point that RangersCF and JH were making is that they sat in those sections in years prior to this one and comparing it to this one - things have deteriorated.

I can vouch that this is the first season that I've ever, ahem, relocated, and was able to do so because the ushers were either non existant or not doing their typical job. I'm not one of the people that RangersCF or JH are complaining about, I get a sick enjoyment about blocking the way of people during play even if there is no usher and I've got my kids programmed to wait at the top of the aisles during play even if no one is there and we are 5 rows from the top. Having said all that, it does mean that there are fewer ushers and those there are slacking off on the enforcement of rules.

If I were the Canes, I would take their feedback seriously since they are able to compare for several seasons, up to and including this one. Lower attendance or not, the value of your seats and in-arena experience should not be diminished due to cutbacks. Moving to another section to avoid those problems is one way to get around the issues, but it sounds like it's less money for GFH as well.

[puckin_A]

I have had my two seats for four seasons now and I love my seats!!! I
hope I never have to give them up. They are in 124 row C. Pain in the
butt to get to because you can't get to the bottom of 124 by way of aisle
124....you have to go through 125/126. Go to the bottom and climb over
everyone. But the good news is, you don't have anyone getting up and
down all through the game. I sit where the Canes shoot twice and love
the view of the ice and the in your face action in the corners. I have sat
on the sidelines a few times and just prefer my seats. Plus the opposing
team comes out right there and that's always fun.

Rangerfan....there are a couple of loan seats near us. You should try it.
I have the BEST seatmates!! We all get along and have a great time. Some
of us went out to dinner after the game on the last night. Now we have
decided to meet up at my house for some playoff games!....

[SouthernCaniac]

I was worried about what kind of seatmates we would get stuck with too, but they turned out to be great people, and now we are splitting a plan with them for next season so we can be together again. So in my merry sunshine universe, if you take a chance you could end up with new friends. If you end up with jerks, then it means you're probably an ass yourself. :D ;)

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Our seatmeates on one side are awesome. We love chatting with them. The folks on the other side, we can't stand. It's really not their fault.....they just aren't our kind of people and we aren't theirs. But, the fact that we don't really like those people didn't really interfere with my enjoyment of the game. I don't give a crap if they want to get pissed off when we rag on the team and boo. I sit on an asile.....I knew when I picked those seats I'd have to get up and let people in and out. I guess I'm just not going through life expecting that I have to like everyone I have to spend time with or that I'm never going to have to endure something that bugs me a little. The hockey more than makes up for the little annoyances for me. If it doesn't for you (collective you), well then, it's certainly your perogative to stop going.

[Hockeydad]

No answer at the RBC- are they open today ?

[stewart123]

Just had a nice conversation with Brian Slais, who has taken over my account from the fondly-remembered Doug Warf. I think Brian is normally the Group Sales Manager, but is handling individual accounts due to the low staffing situation this off-season.

I had 3 10-game seats this past year, but it looks like the kids have dropped off the bandwagon, and even 10 games was more than they wanted. So I kept the investment about the same and switched to a single 24-game plan in LL South. I was concerned that I would not qualify for the 20% discount since I was not renewing the same plan, or even keeping a portion of it. It was a switch in section, plan, and a lower number of tickets, but it did qualify for the discount, so I paid in full a few moments ago. I got the impression that if I had wanted an increase in seats, the discount would not have been offered for the 'new' seats.

I suppose I should change my name to Stewart1, now that Stewart2 and Stewart3 will not be attending games. Probably I'll just start wearing my Winnipeg Jets throwback jersey instead..

[nccanes]

I got the impression that if I had wanted an increase in seats, the discount would not have been offered for the 'new' seats.



How can this be the case when they are offering the same 20% off deal to anyone - previous plan holder or not?

Very confused.

[stewart123]

If they are offering the discount to anyone, not just renewals, then my impression was wrong. I mentioned it only for someone else to confirm or contend.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

So, they are for sure offering the discount to anyone and not just renewals? I e-mailed my rep with that question last week but haven't heard back yet and I have some friends who may be enticed into buying a ticket plan if the 20% off applies but I didn't want to mention it to them until I knew for sure. The language in my renewal package does not make it sound like everyone can get the discount but several folks seem to think that is the case. Anyone know for sure?

[Ashleygirl]

So, they are for sure offering the discount to anyone and not just renewals? I e-mailed my rep with that question last week but haven't heard back yet and I have some friends who may be enticed into buying a ticket plan if the 20% off applies but I didn't want to mention it to them until I knew for sure. The language in my renewal package does not make it sound like everyone can get the discount but several folks seem to think that is the case. Anyone know for sure?

I renewed my tickets last week and when I inquired about adding another seat, I was told I could get the discount for that seat as well. No promises that the discount will apply later if I decide to add a 24-plan seat next to mine, but I would get the discount if I purchased the extra seat right now.

[nccanes]

Here is the verbage of the announcement. I don't see the word "renewal" in there, and anyone that is paying full for season tickets would be described as a "season ticket holder". I presumed that it was available based on the announcements on the Jumbotron and the flyers on empty seats too.

HURRICANES ANNOUNCE SEASON TICKET DISCOUNT OPPORTUNITIES FOR 2004-05 SEASON
TERRELL WILLIAMS

Fans who pay in full by April 30 receive additional 20% off already discounted rate

RALEIGH, N.C. (March 23, 2004) – Jim Rutherford, President / General Manager of the Carolina Hurricanes, today announced the team’s season ticket pricing for the 2004-05 NHL season. While gate prices will remain the same for the third consecutive season, season ticket holders who pay in full by April 30, 2004 will receive an additional 20 percent discount off the already discounted plan-holder rate, a savings of up to 48 percent off the gate price. As a second option, season ticket holders may choose to sign up for one of two payment plans -- each of which require full payment by September 1, 2004 -- in order to receive a 10 percent discount off the already discounted plan-holder rate. These discount opportunities are available for full-season ticket purchases as well as mini-season ticket purchases.

In the event of an NHL work stoppage, customers who choose to leave their money on account with the Hurricanes will earn interest at a rate of two percent on their accounts. The National Hockey League and the National Hockey League Players’ Association are working under a Collective Bargaining Agreement that is scheduled to expire on September 15, 2004. The parties are currently engaged in the process of negotiating a successor agreement. If a new CBA is not signed by September 15, customers may request a full refund for all payments made at any point. Customers may also leave their money on account with the Hurricanes and earn interest at the rate of two percent. Simple interest, calculated at an annual rate of two percent, will be accrued on all monies received by September 15. Interest will begin to accrue upon the announcement of an NHL work stoppage and continue until a new Collective Bargaining Agreement is finalized. Plan holders may request a full refund, plus interest, at any time for any games that are cancelled due to a work stoppage.

All account holders who respond with their first payment by April 30 will receive a 2004 NHL All-Star Game puck autographed by 2004 NHL YoungStars Game participant Eric Staal. As always, full season ticket holders receive other great benefits including the ticket exchange program for missed games; Caniac Account Manager, which allows fans to forward tickets to friends via email; tickets to the Season Ticket Holder Open House with player and coach autograph opportunities; discounts on purchases at the team store; and the special-edition lithograph. A complete list of full season and mini season ticket holder benefits is available at CarolinaHurricanes.com.

Carolina Hurricanes mini-season ticket plans will consist of a 24-game plan and three different 10-game packages. A full-season ticket package for the 2004-05 season will consist of 41 regular season games and three preseason games. A special benefit has been added for all planholders as one of the three preseason games will be provided to all full-season ticket and mini-season ticket plan holders at no charge.

Individual game tickets for all remaining Hurricanes home games in the 2003-04 season are available at the Dodge Box Office at the RBC Center, at all TicketMaster locations or by calling TicketMaster at 919-834-4000 or clicking here.

[Hockeydad]

I can confirm that new 24 game mini plan holders are given the 20% discount as well provided paid in full. Gracias.

[CaneZilla]

We WILL get 6 together!(from another post I made)

We got the 6 seats we wanted. It is under 2 different accounts now, but that is fine. We were able to get the 20% discount and I also spoke with a seatmate that renewed their tickets and upped from 2 to 3, and got a 20% discount on all 3. I know we had to go a step-up from our latest ticket rep 'insert daily changing name here' to get our request filled but then they made it sound as any STH new or re-newing was eligible for the 20%. I'd call them and not give in to the runaround if you get it.

~Zilla

[Ashleygirl]

I just called my Ticket Rep and he told me the discount is good for any seat, new or renewing as long as you pay before the April 30 deadline. It applied to the FTH, 24-plan and 10 plan as well!

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Yep, my rep got back to me today and also confirmed that everyone is eligible, just like y'all said....so long as they pay in full by the 30th (for 20%) or make the first payment on a plan by then (10%).

[nccanes]

Well, not that any of us need reminding, but the deadline for the 20%/10% discounts end this week. Make sure to renew!

I did mine today and feel so happy! :D

My rep said they'd been really, really busy - so that's great news.

[nccanes]

Well, not that any of us need reminding, but the deadline for the 20%/10% discounts end this week. Make sure to renew!

I did mine today and feel so happy! :D

My rep said they'd been really, really busy - so that's great news.

[talkingcanes]

I mailed mine in over the weekend. I need to check with Brian to be certain it arrived and is on the books. Now, where is my signed puck :D ;)

[talkingcanes]

I mailed mine in over the weekend. I need to check with Brian to be certain it arrived and is on the books. Now, where is my signed puck :D ;)

[SouthernHockeyChick]

I did mine over the phone on Friday. :D As far as I know I'm good to go!! I better get a puck with his namd AND his number! ;)

I'm so excited to be getting pre-paid parking, finally! We've had to dig that $7 out from between the seats in change too many times.

You know, it just occured to me, I didn't ask if the parking was re-fundable in case of lock-out. :crazy:

[SouthernHockeyChick]

I did mine over the phone on Friday. :D As far as I know I'm good to go!! I better get a puck with his namd AND his number! ;)

I'm so excited to be getting pre-paid parking, finally! We've had to dig that $7 out from between the seats in change too many times.

You know, it just occured to me, I didn't ask if the parking was re-fundable in case of lock-out. :crazy:

[talkingcanes]

pre-paid parking is the stuff! it is great to hang that paper on the rearview mirror and not have to fish for every cent in the seats (which I have done on more than one occasion)!

now, we've done our part and it's time for the owners and players to step up and be sure we all have hockey to watch and that it starts on time!!

[talkingcanes]

pre-paid parking is the stuff! it is great to hang that paper on the rearview mirror and not have to fish for every cent in the seats (which I have done on more than one occasion)!

now, we've done our part and it's time for the owners and players to step up and be sure we all have hockey to watch and that it starts on time!!

[nccanes]

We do the parking too. But I share seats with rich people, so they do the Premier parking, lol. I think they were told they could pay for that later, so I'm not out my 22 games-worth of parking just yet.

BTW, my rep confirmed that if we chose to upgrade our seats at Select A Seat that the 20% will still be applied to the difference. Sweet!

[nccanes]

We do the parking too. But I share seats with rich people, so they do the Premier parking, lol. I think they were told they could pay for that later, so I'm not out my 22 games-worth of parking just yet.

BTW, my rep confirmed that if we chose to upgrade our seats at Select A Seat that the 20% will still be applied to the difference. Sweet!

[hyena]

woohoo -- did my tix today too. the lady said the pucks would be arriving in the mail sometime next month.... :smoke:

[hyena]

woohoo -- did my tix today too. the lady said the pucks would be arriving in the mail sometime next month.... :smoke:

[nccanes]

This is OT, but I just realized your av has eyes on it. I gotta say it's kinda freakin' me out, lol.

[nccanes]

This is OT, but I just realized your av has eyes on it. I gotta say it's kinda freakin' me out, lol.

[Mona]

I am going to renew on Friday but I am holding off on parking.. just in case.. :sad:

[Mona]

I am going to renew on Friday but I am holding off on parking.. just in case.. :sad:

[Mona]

Wasn't sure where to post this.. a note from "The Big Cheese"

Dear Mona:

I want to thank you for your recent renewal of your season tickets. As you may have read in the press recently, the fans of the Carolina Hurricanes have reacted with tremendous support this spring and our ticket renewal rate is well ahead of schedule. This only further proves what I already knew - that we truly have the greatest fans in the NHL right here in the Triangle.

As you are aware, the National Hockey League's Collective Bargaining Agreement expires in September. We will continue to work hard to negotiate an agreement that helps all teams operate in a way that works best for the people who matter the most, the fans of hockey everywhere. Hopefully, a suitable agreement can be reached early enough so that we can hold a full NHL season in 2004-05.

Once again, thank you for your continued support of the Carolina Hurricanes. You should receive your Official 2004 NHL All-Star puck autographed by Eric Staal in the mail shortly. I trust that you will enjoy that item as you watch Eric develop in his career with the Hurricanes.

I hope you have a safe and happy summer, and I'll see you at the NHL Draft on June 26 at the RBC Center!

Sincerely,

Peter Karmanos Jr.

[Mona]

Wasn't sure where to post this.. a note from "The Big Cheese"

Dear Mona:

I want to thank you for your recent renewal of your season tickets. As you may have read in the press recently, the fans of the Carolina Hurricanes have reacted with tremendous support this spring and our ticket renewal rate is well ahead of schedule. This only further proves what I already knew - that we truly have the greatest fans in the NHL right here in the Triangle.

As you are aware, the National Hockey League's Collective Bargaining Agreement expires in September. We will continue to work hard to negotiate an agreement that helps all teams operate in a way that works best for the people who matter the most, the fans of hockey everywhere. Hopefully, a suitable agreement can be reached early enough so that we can hold a full NHL season in 2004-05.

Once again, thank you for your continued support of the Carolina Hurricanes. You should receive your Official 2004 NHL All-Star puck autographed by Eric Staal in the mail shortly. I trust that you will enjoy that item as you watch Eric develop in his career with the Hurricanes.

I hope you have a safe and happy summer, and I'll see you at the NHL Draft on June 26 at the RBC Center!

Sincerely,

Peter Karmanos Jr.

[caniac369]

As you are aware, the National Hockey League's Collective Bargaining Agreement expires in September. Hopefully, a suitable agreement can be reached early enough so that we can hold a full NHL season in 2004-05.

They'd better!!

Question/Thought: If they don't come to an agreement and (god forbid) the season doesn't start on time or worse, not at all, what about NHL centerice? If you purchase the package during (what I would expect to be) any preseason special offer (which I plan to do once I move out to Oregon later this summer), would one be entitled to a full/prorated refund or penalty-free cancellation?

Mods please move this if you so see fit... :)

[caniac369]

As you are aware, the National Hockey League's Collective Bargaining Agreement expires in September. Hopefully, a suitable agreement can be reached early enough so that we can hold a full NHL season in 2004-05.

They'd better!!

Question/Thought: If they don't come to an agreement and (god forbid) the season doesn't start on time or worse, not at all, what about NHL centerice? If you purchase the package during (what I would expect to be) any preseason special offer (which I plan to do once I move out to Oregon later this summer), would one be entitled to a full/prorated refund or penalty-free cancellation?

Mods please move this if you so see fit... :)

[Mona]

I would think they would give you a full refund if there was nothing to watch.. :sad:

I was glad to see that the renewal response was positive.. it was a great deal...

[Mona]

I would think they would give you a full refund if there was nothing to watch.. :sad:

I was glad to see that the renewal response was positive.. it was a great deal...

[talkingcanes]

[quote=Mona]As you are aware, the National Hockey League's Collective Bargaining Agreement expires in September. Hopefully, a suitable agreement can be reached early enough so that we can hold a full NHL season in 2004-05.

They'd better!!

Question/Thought: If they don't come to an agreement and (god forbid) the season doesn't start on time or worse, not at all, what about NHL centerice? If you purchase the package during (what I would expect to be) any preseason special offer (which I plan to do once I move out to Oregon later this summer), would one be entitled to a full/prorated refund or penalty-free cancellation?
[quote]

I'm going to check with TWC before I sign up this season if it looks like there will be a delay. I don't think they will necessarily see the refund/prorated cost the way we do.

[talkingcanes]

[quote=Mona]As you are aware, the National Hockey League's Collective Bargaining Agreement expires in September. Hopefully, a suitable agreement can be reached early enough so that we can hold a full NHL season in 2004-05.

They'd better!!

Question/Thought: If they don't come to an agreement and (god forbid) the season doesn't start on time or worse, not at all, what about NHL centerice? If you purchase the package during (what I would expect to be) any preseason special offer (which I plan to do once I move out to Oregon later this summer), would one be entitled to a full/prorated refund or penalty-free cancellation?
[quote]

I'm going to check with TWC before I sign up this season if it looks like there will be a delay. I don't think they will necessarily see the refund/prorated cost the way we do.

[Shell]

The other thing I noticed is that they have the $12 section available for full STH again I think (that's from memory, I don't have it in front of me).


Yep, all sections of the arena are available for full STH. 10 and 24 packs are a little more restrictive but $12 seats are available for all three. It's mostly the more expensive section(s) in each level that are missing from the 10 pack (Mezzanine in upper level, Club Ledge and Center Ice Club and Sideline Premier and better in LL). 24 pack holders can get Mezzanine and Sideline Premier, though.

**GRRRR** Because of this we did not renew our pack.. we just don't know what and when we will be able to go with a new baby and since we weren't losing out on being grandfathered in, we didn't worry about it. They have since changed their minds apparently and you can no longer get plans in that section. We have to renew there or lose them forever.. sure wish they would have told us that while the 20% discount was around :mad:
They changed the graphic on their ticket page.

[Shell]

The other thing I noticed is that they have the $12 section available for full STH again I think (that's from memory, I don't have it in front of me).


Yep, all sections of the arena are available for full STH. 10 and 24 packs are a little more restrictive but $12 seats are available for all three. It's mostly the more expensive section(s) in each level that are missing from the 10 pack (Mezzanine in upper level, Club Ledge and Center Ice Club and Sideline Premier and better in LL). 24 pack holders can get Mezzanine and Sideline Premier, though.

**GRRRR** Because of this we did not renew our pack.. we just don't know what and when we will be able to go with a new baby and since we weren't losing out on being grandfathered in, we didn't worry about it. They have since changed their minds apparently and you can no longer get plans in that section. We have to renew there or lose them forever.. sure wish they would have told us that while the 20% discount was around :mad:
They changed the graphic on their ticket page.

[Mona]

**GRRRR** Because of this we did not renew our pack.. we just don't know what and when we will be able to go with a new baby and since we weren't losing out on being grandfathered in, we didn't worry about it. They have since changed their minds apparently and you can no longer get plans in that section. We have to renew there or lose them forever.. sure wish they would have told us that while the 20% discount was around :mad:
They changed the graphic on their ticket page.

Shell I would definitely call someone and explain about why you didn't renew during the "reduced" period.. as long as you guys have had tickets, they surely should let you have the discount.. strap the baby on your back and put a Canes jersey on him.. you know he has "the love of the puck" flowing through his little veins.. ;)

[Mona]

**GRRRR** Because of this we did not renew our pack.. we just don't know what and when we will be able to go with a new baby and since we weren't losing out on being grandfathered in, we didn't worry about it. They have since changed their minds apparently and you can no longer get plans in that section. We have to renew there or lose them forever.. sure wish they would have told us that while the 20% discount was around :mad:
They changed the graphic on their ticket page.

Shell I would definitely call someone and explain about why you didn't renew during the "reduced" period.. as long as you guys have had tickets, they surely should let you have the discount.. strap the baby on your back and put a Canes jersey on him.. you know he has "the love of the puck" flowing through his little veins.. ;)

[nccanes]

Yes, I agree. I would call a ticket rep and explain it as you did. I always wondered if the 4/30 deadline was the ONLY deadline for renewal or just the 20%. Last year the deadline for deposits was June 1, so I was curious about if people had reason to delay their committment if they had more time w/o losing their priority, etc.

The reps I've spoken to seem like they are doing as much as they can to help people out. I was really happy to hear that they will still apply the 20% off if you upgrade your seats during select-a-seat.

[nccanes]

Yes, I agree. I would call a ticket rep and explain it as you did. I always wondered if the 4/30 deadline was the ONLY deadline for renewal or just the 20%. Last year the deadline for deposits was June 1, so I was curious about if people had reason to delay their committment if they had more time w/o losing their priority, etc.

The reps I've spoken to seem like they are doing as much as they can to help people out. I was really happy to hear that they will still apply the 20% off if you upgrade your seats during select-a-seat.

[Shell]

4/30 is just the deadline for the 20%, but I would have paid by then if I thought we were renewing.. I was mislead so I didn't.. I'll see if we can get it. watch me hold my breath

strap the baby on your back and put a Canes jersey on him.. you know he has "the love of the puck" flowing through his little veins.. You would not believe the unbelievably cute Canes jersey he already has.. the whole outfit actually.. lettered jersey with his last name, the pants, the socks.. it is absolutely the cutest thing I have ever seen in my life. I'll let the person who made it claim it if she wants, but she could sell them for a good chunk of change! Adorable!
The baby will either love hockey or hate it, not sure which.. he reacts strongly to my stress that I get watching game 7s lol. Plus, we had our seats under the air horn all pregnancy long :smoke: The biggest issue is timing and where he is, where our work is, and where the game is by 7:00.

[Shell]

4/30 is just the deadline for the 20%, but I would have paid by then if I thought we were renewing.. I was mislead so I didn't.. I'll see if we can get it. watch me hold my breath

strap the baby on your back and put a Canes jersey on him.. you know he has "the love of the puck" flowing through his little veins.. You would not believe the unbelievably cute Canes jersey he already has.. the whole outfit actually.. lettered jersey with his last name, the pants, the socks.. it is absolutely the cutest thing I have ever seen in my life. I'll let the person who made it claim it if she wants, but she could sell them for a good chunk of change! Adorable!
The baby will either love hockey or hate it, not sure which.. he reacts strongly to my stress that I get watching game 7s lol. Plus, we had our seats under the air horn all pregnancy long :smoke: The biggest issue is timing and where he is, where our work is, and where the game is by 7:00.

[Canesluver]

I know! I know!!

Damn! Isn't she good??!! ;)

[Canesluver]

I know! I know!!

Damn! Isn't she good??!! ;)

[Mona]

4/30 is just the deadline for the 20%, but I would have paid by then if I thought we were renewing.. I was mislead so I didn't.. I'll see if we can get it. watch me hold my breath

strap the baby on your back and put a Canes jersey on him.. you know he has "the love of the puck" flowing through his little veins.. You would not believe the unbelievably cute Canes jersey he already has.. the whole outfit actually.. lettered jersey with his last name, the pants, the socks.. it is absolutely the cutest thing I have ever seen in my life. I'll let the person who made it claim it if she wants, but she could sell them for a good chunk of change! Adorable!
The baby will either love hockey or hate it, not sure which.. he reacts strongly to my stress that I get watching game 7s lol. Plus, we had our seats under the air horn all pregnancy long :smoke: The biggest issue is timing and where he is, where our work is, and where the game is by 7:00.

I know it is precious... and since the baby has heard the horn so much, you know when he hears a truck horn, he will be expecting Ric to yell WOOOOOOO and he will be thinking the Canes just scored... :D I hope it works out that you guys can make it to most if not all.. I know how much you love it! ;)

[Mona]

4/30 is just the deadline for the 20%, but I would have paid by then if I thought we were renewing.. I was mislead so I didn't.. I'll see if we can get it. watch me hold my breath

strap the baby on your back and put a Canes jersey on him.. you know he has "the love of the puck" flowing through his little veins.. You would not believe the unbelievably cute Canes jersey he already has.. the whole outfit actually.. lettered jersey with his last name, the pants, the socks.. it is absolutely the cutest thing I have ever seen in my life. I'll let the person who made it claim it if she wants, but she could sell them for a good chunk of change! Adorable!
The baby will either love hockey or hate it, not sure which.. he reacts strongly to my stress that I get watching game 7s lol. Plus, we had our seats under the air horn all pregnancy long :smoke: The biggest issue is timing and where he is, where our work is, and where the game is by 7:00.

I know it is precious... and since the baby has heard the horn so much, you know when he hears a truck horn, he will be expecting Ric to yell WOOOOOOO and he will be thinking the Canes just scored... :D I hope it works out that you guys can make it to most if not all.. I know how much you love it! ;)

[Shell]

and since the baby has heard the horn so much, you know when he hears a truck horn, he will be expecting Ric to yell WOOOOOOO and he will be thinking the Canes just scored...

Unfortunately they only blow the horn when we score, so he didn't get to hear it nearly enough!!! ;)

[Shell]

and since the baby has heard the horn so much, you know when he hears a truck horn, he will be expecting Ric to yell WOOOOOOO and he will be thinking the Canes just scored...

Unfortunately they only blow the horn when we score, so he didn't get to hear it nearly enough!!! ;)

[Guyute]

although, he is probably already getting used to a CAR horn... I drive most of the time.. and, well, I did grow up in jersey.

Mother!!! BEEEEEEP!! @%O(*#@ BEEEEEEP!!!!!

:lol:

[Guyute]

although, he is probably already getting used to a CAR horn... I drive most of the time.. and, well, I did grow up in jersey.

Mother!!! BEEEEEEP!! @%O(*#@ BEEEEEEP!!!!!

:lol:

[Mona]

although, he is probably already getting used to a CAR horn... I drive most of the time.. and, well, I did grow up in jersey.

Mother!!! BEEEEEEP!! @%O(*#@ BEEEEEEP!!!!!

:lol:

That's me too.. :D

and Shell I agree.. our horn never goes off enough!! :sad: but this season will be different....they will pick up right where they left off! ;)

[Mona]

although, he is probably already getting used to a CAR horn... I drive most of the time.. and, well, I did grow up in jersey.

Mother!!! BEEEEEEP!! @%O(*#@ BEEEEEEP!!!!!

:lol:

That's me too.. :D

and Shell I agree.. our horn never goes off enough!! :sad: but this season will be different....they will pick up right where they left off! ;)