View Full Version : Mo will be back next season - Today's N&O article
ZJCanesFan
04-08-2003, 06:25 AM
This article states unequivocally that Mo weill return. Also interesting notes stating:
- the Canes will be shopping Tanabe
- They will not invite Irbe back to camp next season:
- Wesley could possibly return
Canes to keep Maurice
Rutherford says team's effort OK
By LUKE DECOCK, Staff Writer
RALEIGH -- The first decision of the Carolina Hurricanes' offseason already has been made.
Carolina general manager Jim Rutherford said Monday that coach Paul Maurice and his staff would return next season despite the Canes' 30th-place finish.
Rutherford had said he would evaluate Maurice's role in the Canes' collapse over the summer but said Monday that his evaluation was complete.
The Canes' season ended with a 2-1 loss to the New York Islanders on Sunday, their sixth straight loss and 11th game without a win.
But Rutherford said he was satisfied with the team's work ethic over the final stretch, which included an 0-5 record against other non-playoff teams.
"Based on the information I have, I believe that Paul and his coaching staff are the right people to coach this team," Rutherford said.
Maurice, though, will be under intense pressure to get the Canes off to a good start. The NHL's longest-tenured coach has completed only one year of the five-year contract he signed in June.
"Going forward, we all understand that having a year like this is unacceptable," Rutherford said. "It's very important for our team to be focused from the first day of camp and gets off to a good start to build that confidence and get back into the winning. I will watch all areas of our team as we proceed to next year to make sure that happens."
With Maurice guaranteed to return, only a few major issues face the Canes as they head into the offseason.
While their Southeast Division rivals face off in a first-round playoff series -- Game 1 between the Tampa Bay Lightning and Washington Capitals is Thursday -- the Canes' season is over after 82 games for the first time in three years.
"We're going to address the problems, and we're going to fix them," defenseman Bret Hedican said. "That's what makes me feel good about this team. Even after a disappointing year, we've got the quality of players and core guys we need to move forward. That's the key ingredient."
The issues the Canes face this summer after their unprecedented collapse from the Stanley Cup finals to last place in the entire NHL are a bit different from last summer's.
The focus last offseason was on keeping the finals team together, with a priority placed on re-signing Ron Francis, Hedican and Aaron Ward.
With no major unrestricted free agents and only a handful of restricted free agents, led by goalie Kevin Weekes, Rutherford's main focus will be on rebuilding a defensive corps that proved a weak spot.
The return of Glen Wesley, traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs on March 9 but a free agent on July 1, is one possibility.
It's also almost certain the Canes will shop David Tanabe over the summer after he undergoes shoulder surgery Thursday.
Tanabe, 22, still skates as well as ever, but his hockey sense has not developed in four NHL seasons. He often puts his teammates in difficult positions, and he was minus-16 in the final 25 games playing with the bad shoulder.
The Canes will continue to try to move Arturs Irbe, who is owed $5.2 million over the next two seasons. Currently, the Canes don't even plan to invite him to training camp in September. Instead, their intention is to send him straight to minor-league camp.
And then there's Francis. Last season, he alternately considered retirement and free agency before signing a two-year contract with the Canes.
There isn't much uncertainty this spring. Francis has said he'd prefer to go out on a higher note, although as usual he isn't willing to commit to anything yet.
"My intent is to come back," he said. "I just want to get away and make sure."
At the final whistle Sunday, Francis skated through the middle of the rink and grabbed the game puck off the ice.
Was this a sign, an omen, that the 40-year-old had decided to call it a career?
Not necessarily. The puck isn't headed for his trophy cabinet.
"I threw it to some kid," Francis said.
-- ZJ
ZJCanesFan
04-08-2003, 06:25 AM
This article states unequivocally that Mo weill return. Also interesting notes stating:
- the Canes will be shopping Tanabe
- They will not invite Irbe back to camp next season:
- Wesley could possibly return
Canes to keep Maurice
Rutherford says team's effort OK
By LUKE DECOCK, Staff Writer
RALEIGH -- The first decision of the Carolina Hurricanes' offseason already has been made.
Carolina general manager Jim Rutherford said Monday that coach Paul Maurice and his staff would return next season despite the Canes' 30th-place finish.
Rutherford had said he would evaluate Maurice's role in the Canes' collapse over the summer but said Monday that his evaluation was complete.
The Canes' season ended with a 2-1 loss to the New York Islanders on Sunday, their sixth straight loss and 11th game without a win.
But Rutherford said he was satisfied with the team's work ethic over the final stretch, which included an 0-5 record against other non-playoff teams.
"Based on the information I have, I believe that Paul and his coaching staff are the right people to coach this team," Rutherford said.
Maurice, though, will be under intense pressure to get the Canes off to a good start. The NHL's longest-tenured coach has completed only one year of the five-year contract he signed in June.
"Going forward, we all understand that having a year like this is unacceptable," Rutherford said. "It's very important for our team to be focused from the first day of camp and gets off to a good start to build that confidence and get back into the winning. I will watch all areas of our team as we proceed to next year to make sure that happens."
With Maurice guaranteed to return, only a few major issues face the Canes as they head into the offseason.
While their Southeast Division rivals face off in a first-round playoff series -- Game 1 between the Tampa Bay Lightning and Washington Capitals is Thursday -- the Canes' season is over after 82 games for the first time in three years.
"We're going to address the problems, and we're going to fix them," defenseman Bret Hedican said. "That's what makes me feel good about this team. Even after a disappointing year, we've got the quality of players and core guys we need to move forward. That's the key ingredient."
The issues the Canes face this summer after their unprecedented collapse from the Stanley Cup finals to last place in the entire NHL are a bit different from last summer's.
The focus last offseason was on keeping the finals team together, with a priority placed on re-signing Ron Francis, Hedican and Aaron Ward.
With no major unrestricted free agents and only a handful of restricted free agents, led by goalie Kevin Weekes, Rutherford's main focus will be on rebuilding a defensive corps that proved a weak spot.
The return of Glen Wesley, traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs on March 9 but a free agent on July 1, is one possibility.
It's also almost certain the Canes will shop David Tanabe over the summer after he undergoes shoulder surgery Thursday.
Tanabe, 22, still skates as well as ever, but his hockey sense has not developed in four NHL seasons. He often puts his teammates in difficult positions, and he was minus-16 in the final 25 games playing with the bad shoulder.
The Canes will continue to try to move Arturs Irbe, who is owed $5.2 million over the next two seasons. Currently, the Canes don't even plan to invite him to training camp in September. Instead, their intention is to send him straight to minor-league camp.
And then there's Francis. Last season, he alternately considered retirement and free agency before signing a two-year contract with the Canes.
There isn't much uncertainty this spring. Francis has said he'd prefer to go out on a higher note, although as usual he isn't willing to commit to anything yet.
"My intent is to come back," he said. "I just want to get away and make sure."
At the final whistle Sunday, Francis skated through the middle of the rink and grabbed the game puck off the ice.
Was this a sign, an omen, that the 40-year-old had decided to call it a career?
Not necessarily. The puck isn't headed for his trophy cabinet.
"I threw it to some kid," Francis said.
-- ZJ
ZJCanesFan
04-08-2003, 06:25 AM
This article states unequivocally that Mo weill return. Also interesting notes stating:
- the Canes will be shopping Tanabe
- They will not invite Irbe back to camp next season:
- Wesley could possibly return
Canes to keep Maurice
Rutherford says team's effort OK
By LUKE DECOCK, Staff Writer
RALEIGH -- The first decision of the Carolina Hurricanes' offseason already has been made.
Carolina general manager Jim Rutherford said Monday that coach Paul Maurice and his staff would return next season despite the Canes' 30th-place finish.
Rutherford had said he would evaluate Maurice's role in the Canes' collapse over the summer but said Monday that his evaluation was complete.
The Canes' season ended with a 2-1 loss to the New York Islanders on Sunday, their sixth straight loss and 11th game without a win.
But Rutherford said he was satisfied with the team's work ethic over the final stretch, which included an 0-5 record against other non-playoff teams.
"Based on the information I have, I believe that Paul and his coaching staff are the right people to coach this team," Rutherford said.
Maurice, though, will be under intense pressure to get the Canes off to a good start. The NHL's longest-tenured coach has completed only one year of the five-year contract he signed in June.
"Going forward, we all understand that having a year like this is unacceptable," Rutherford said. "It's very important for our team to be focused from the first day of camp and gets off to a good start to build that confidence and get back into the winning. I will watch all areas of our team as we proceed to next year to make sure that happens."
With Maurice guaranteed to return, only a few major issues face the Canes as they head into the offseason.
While their Southeast Division rivals face off in a first-round playoff series -- Game 1 between the Tampa Bay Lightning and Washington Capitals is Thursday -- the Canes' season is over after 82 games for the first time in three years.
"We're going to address the problems, and we're going to fix them," defenseman Bret Hedican said. "That's what makes me feel good about this team. Even after a disappointing year, we've got the quality of players and core guys we need to move forward. That's the key ingredient."
The issues the Canes face this summer after their unprecedented collapse from the Stanley Cup finals to last place in the entire NHL are a bit different from last summer's.
The focus last offseason was on keeping the finals team together, with a priority placed on re-signing Ron Francis, Hedican and Aaron Ward.
With no major unrestricted free agents and only a handful of restricted free agents, led by goalie Kevin Weekes, Rutherford's main focus will be on rebuilding a defensive corps that proved a weak spot.
The return of Glen Wesley, traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs on March 9 but a free agent on July 1, is one possibility.
It's also almost certain the Canes will shop David Tanabe over the summer after he undergoes shoulder surgery Thursday.
Tanabe, 22, still skates as well as ever, but his hockey sense has not developed in four NHL seasons. He often puts his teammates in difficult positions, and he was minus-16 in the final 25 games playing with the bad shoulder.
The Canes will continue to try to move Arturs Irbe, who is owed $5.2 million over the next two seasons. Currently, the Canes don't even plan to invite him to training camp in September. Instead, their intention is to send him straight to minor-league camp.
And then there's Francis. Last season, he alternately considered retirement and free agency before signing a two-year contract with the Canes.
There isn't much uncertainty this spring. Francis has said he'd prefer to go out on a higher note, although as usual he isn't willing to commit to anything yet.
"My intent is to come back," he said. "I just want to get away and make sure."
At the final whistle Sunday, Francis skated through the middle of the rink and grabbed the game puck off the ice.
Was this a sign, an omen, that the 40-year-old had decided to call it a career?
Not necessarily. The puck isn't headed for his trophy cabinet.
"I threw it to some kid," Francis said.
-- ZJ
Turbulence
04-08-2003, 06:48 AM
I'm happy. You don't become the longest tenured coach in the league being a bad coach...Mo's 'system' worked two years ago and it can work again.
I'm very happy to hear about Tanabe being shopped. I was afraid we'd try to keep him after the coach Mo interview a few nights ago. He is dead weight. Maybe he can go in a package deal with Irbe.
Irbe, Irbe. We have 2 goaltenders now and we don't need Archie. He'll report straight to Lowell if he is still a part of this organization come camp-time. His time with this team is finally up. I wish him well somewhere else.
Overall, I'm happy that this coaching staff is staying. If they get rid of the dump and chase we can be a very successful team.
Turbulence
04-08-2003, 06:48 AM
I'm happy. You don't become the longest tenured coach in the league being a bad coach...Mo's 'system' worked two years ago and it can work again.
I'm very happy to hear about Tanabe being shopped. I was afraid we'd try to keep him after the coach Mo interview a few nights ago. He is dead weight. Maybe he can go in a package deal with Irbe.
Irbe, Irbe. We have 2 goaltenders now and we don't need Archie. He'll report straight to Lowell if he is still a part of this organization come camp-time. His time with this team is finally up. I wish him well somewhere else.
Overall, I'm happy that this coaching staff is staying. If they get rid of the dump and chase we can be a very successful team.
Turbulence
04-08-2003, 06:48 AM
I'm happy. You don't become the longest tenured coach in the league being a bad coach...Mo's 'system' worked two years ago and it can work again.
I'm very happy to hear about Tanabe being shopped. I was afraid we'd try to keep him after the coach Mo interview a few nights ago. He is dead weight. Maybe he can go in a package deal with Irbe.
Irbe, Irbe. We have 2 goaltenders now and we don't need Archie. He'll report straight to Lowell if he is still a part of this organization come camp-time. His time with this team is finally up. I wish him well somewhere else.
Overall, I'm happy that this coaching staff is staying. If they get rid of the dump and chase we can be a very successful team.
Canesluver
04-08-2003, 06:54 AM
This is the part I liked:
And then there's Francis. Last season, he alternately considered retirement and free agency before signing a two-year contract with the Canes.
There isn't much uncertainty this spring. Francis has said he'd prefer to go out on a higher note, although as usual he isn't willing to commit to anything yet.
"My intent is to come back," he said. "I just want to get away and make sure."
At the final whistle Sunday, Francis skated through the middle of the rink and grabbed the game puck off the ice.
Was this a sign, an omen, that the 40-year-old had decided to call it a career?
Not necessarily. The puck isn't headed for his trophy cabinet.
"I threw it to some kid," Francis said.
At least the mystery of Ronnie taking the game puck has been solved!!
:D
Canesluver
04-08-2003, 06:54 AM
This is the part I liked:
And then there's Francis. Last season, he alternately considered retirement and free agency before signing a two-year contract with the Canes.
There isn't much uncertainty this spring. Francis has said he'd prefer to go out on a higher note, although as usual he isn't willing to commit to anything yet.
"My intent is to come back," he said. "I just want to get away and make sure."
At the final whistle Sunday, Francis skated through the middle of the rink and grabbed the game puck off the ice.
Was this a sign, an omen, that the 40-year-old had decided to call it a career?
Not necessarily. The puck isn't headed for his trophy cabinet.
"I threw it to some kid," Francis said.
At least the mystery of Ronnie taking the game puck has been solved!!
:D
Canesluver
04-08-2003, 06:54 AM
This is the part I liked:
And then there's Francis. Last season, he alternately considered retirement and free agency before signing a two-year contract with the Canes.
There isn't much uncertainty this spring. Francis has said he'd prefer to go out on a higher note, although as usual he isn't willing to commit to anything yet.
"My intent is to come back," he said. "I just want to get away and make sure."
At the final whistle Sunday, Francis skated through the middle of the rink and grabbed the game puck off the ice.
Was this a sign, an omen, that the 40-year-old had decided to call it a career?
Not necessarily. The puck isn't headed for his trophy cabinet.
"I threw it to some kid," Francis said.
At least the mystery of Ronnie taking the game puck has been solved!!
:D
hyena
04-08-2003, 07:14 AM
"At least the mystery of Ronnie taking the game puck has been solved!!"
:D Canesluver, you read my mind!
well, i guess Mo's not going anywhere. the only surprising thing about this is how quickly JR made his decision. i'm sure Mo never had anything to worry about. :roll:
if archie is starting the season in the minors, maybe weekes will take that as a sign the #1 job is his and plays like it.
hyena
04-08-2003, 07:14 AM
"At least the mystery of Ronnie taking the game puck has been solved!!"
:D Canesluver, you read my mind!
well, i guess Mo's not going anywhere. the only surprising thing about this is how quickly JR made his decision. i'm sure Mo never had anything to worry about. :roll:
if archie is starting the season in the minors, maybe weekes will take that as a sign the #1 job is his and plays like it.
hyena
04-08-2003, 07:14 AM
"At least the mystery of Ronnie taking the game puck has been solved!!"
:D Canesluver, you read my mind!
well, i guess Mo's not going anywhere. the only surprising thing about this is how quickly JR made his decision. i'm sure Mo never had anything to worry about. :roll:
if archie is starting the season in the minors, maybe weekes will take that as a sign the #1 job is his and plays like it.
Jeff O Rocks
04-08-2003, 07:38 AM
Poor Archie..I hope he can find a home somewhere where he can flourish and be happy!! Thanks Archie...we will miss you!! :cry:
Jeff O Rocks
04-08-2003, 07:38 AM
Poor Archie..I hope he can find a home somewhere where he can flourish and be happy!! Thanks Archie...we will miss you!! :cry:
Jeff O Rocks
04-08-2003, 07:38 AM
Poor Archie..I hope he can find a home somewhere where he can flourish and be happy!! Thanks Archie...we will miss you!! :cry:
Guyute
04-08-2003, 08:04 AM
so I guess if you read between the lines, either DesRochers will be backup, or we're drafting a goalie. Or- there's still a hope that we can move Irbe (not likely).
anyway... dump DT. Sorry kid, potential only carries you so far... and the wheels on that truck went flat 3 seasons ago.
Guyute
04-08-2003, 08:04 AM
so I guess if you read between the lines, either DesRochers will be backup, or we're drafting a goalie. Or- there's still a hope that we can move Irbe (not likely).
anyway... dump DT. Sorry kid, potential only carries you so far... and the wheels on that truck went flat 3 seasons ago.
Guyute
04-08-2003, 08:04 AM
so I guess if you read between the lines, either DesRochers will be backup, or we're drafting a goalie. Or- there's still a hope that we can move Irbe (not likely).
anyway... dump DT. Sorry kid, potential only carries you so far... and the wheels on that truck went flat 3 seasons ago.
Jeff O Rocks
04-08-2003, 08:54 AM
anyway... dump DT
I agree...the paper said it best when they said he put his teammates in some bad positions...I have seen him more than once this year, turn the puck over in front of our net and lose the game .... maybe he can develop somewhere else.. :roll:
Jeff O Rocks
04-08-2003, 08:54 AM
anyway... dump DT
I agree...the paper said it best when they said he put his teammates in some bad positions...I have seen him more than once this year, turn the puck over in front of our net and lose the game .... maybe he can develop somewhere else.. :roll:
Jeff O Rocks
04-08-2003, 08:54 AM
anyway... dump DT
I agree...the paper said it best when they said he put his teammates in some bad positions...I have seen him more than once this year, turn the puck over in front of our net and lose the game .... maybe he can develop somewhere else.. :roll:
mikus
04-08-2003, 09:15 AM
anyway... dump DT
I agree...the paper said it best when they said he put his teammates in some bad positions...I have seen him more than once this year, turn the puck over in front of our net and lose the game .... maybe he can develop somewhere else.. :roll:
who's DT?
mikus
04-08-2003, 09:15 AM
anyway... dump DT
I agree...the paper said it best when they said he put his teammates in some bad positions...I have seen him more than once this year, turn the puck over in front of our net and lose the game .... maybe he can develop somewhere else.. :roll:
who's DT?
mikus
04-08-2003, 09:15 AM
anyway... dump DT
I agree...the paper said it best when they said he put his teammates in some bad positions...I have seen him more than once this year, turn the puck over in front of our net and lose the game .... maybe he can develop somewhere else.. :roll:
who's DT?
Guyute
04-08-2003, 09:17 AM
David Tanabe
Guyute
04-08-2003, 09:17 AM
David Tanabe
Guyute
04-08-2003, 09:17 AM
David Tanabe
folgersnyourcup
04-08-2003, 09:18 AM
DT is David Tanabe Mikus. He's one of the Canes defenseman that everyone had high hopes for 3 years ago... He has developed into absolutely nothing and management is trying to find someone willing to deal for him.
folgersnyourcup
04-08-2003, 09:18 AM
DT is David Tanabe Mikus. He's one of the Canes defenseman that everyone had high hopes for 3 years ago... He has developed into absolutely nothing and management is trying to find someone willing to deal for him.
folgersnyourcup
04-08-2003, 09:18 AM
DT is David Tanabe Mikus. He's one of the Canes defenseman that everyone had high hopes for 3 years ago... He has developed into absolutely nothing and management is trying to find someone willing to deal for him.
mikus
04-08-2003, 09:33 AM
He has developed into absolutely nothing and management is trying to find someone willing to deal for him.
like kapanen :crazy:
mikus
04-08-2003, 09:33 AM
He has developed into absolutely nothing and management is trying to find someone willing to deal for him.
like kapanen :crazy:
mikus
04-08-2003, 09:33 AM
He has developed into absolutely nothing and management is trying to find someone willing to deal for him.
like kapanen :crazy:
Alicia
04-08-2003, 12:29 PM
Yay! I can't tell you how happy I will be to see Turnover Tanabe go!
Alicia
04-08-2003, 12:29 PM
Yay! I can't tell you how happy I will be to see Turnover Tanabe go!
Alicia
04-08-2003, 12:29 PM
Yay! I can't tell you how happy I will be to see Turnover Tanabe go!
Jeff O Rocks
04-08-2003, 12:45 PM
I kind of wonder if DT knew this was coming.. he wouldn't stop for anyone to sign autographs after Sunday's game!! hmmmmmmmmmmmm??? :roll: :eek:
Jeff O Rocks
04-08-2003, 12:45 PM
I kind of wonder if DT knew this was coming.. he wouldn't stop for anyone to sign autographs after Sunday's game!! hmmmmmmmmmmmm??? :roll: :eek:
Jeff O Rocks
04-08-2003, 12:45 PM
I kind of wonder if DT knew this was coming.. he wouldn't stop for anyone to sign autographs after Sunday's game!! hmmmmmmmmmmmm??? :roll: :eek:
SouthernHockeyChick
04-08-2003, 01:03 PM
So, I'm guessing JR's "evaluation" of the coaching staff consisted of a quick look in Mo's mouth to see if he still had enough teeth left to chew that gum. :roll:
Here's how I see it. The system works, yes, about every other year because it demands near perfection from the defense and goaltending who just cannot recover from all that in a short offseason. So, we will of course go into next year with the same system, we'll go deep in the playoffs, and we'll come back in the 2004-2005 season (if we still have a team then) and suck again but of course, due to the previous year, Mo's job will again be safe.
Here's hoping I am completely wrong....that either the system doesn't mow through players like hedge cutters and this year was just a fluke or that we change the system. But I knew Mo wasn't going anywhere so this isn't shocking to me or anything. I've always been this pessimistic. :beatup:
SouthernHockeyChick
04-08-2003, 01:03 PM
So, I'm guessing JR's "evaluation" of the coaching staff consisted of a quick look in Mo's mouth to see if he still had enough teeth left to chew that gum. :roll:
Here's how I see it. The system works, yes, about every other year because it demands near perfection from the defense and goaltending who just cannot recover from all that in a short offseason. So, we will of course go into next year with the same system, we'll go deep in the playoffs, and we'll come back in the 2004-2005 season (if we still have a team then) and suck again but of course, due to the previous year, Mo's job will again be safe.
Here's hoping I am completely wrong....that either the system doesn't mow through players like hedge cutters and this year was just a fluke or that we change the system. But I knew Mo wasn't going anywhere so this isn't shocking to me or anything. I've always been this pessimistic. :beatup:
SouthernHockeyChick
04-08-2003, 01:03 PM
So, I'm guessing JR's "evaluation" of the coaching staff consisted of a quick look in Mo's mouth to see if he still had enough teeth left to chew that gum. :roll:
Here's how I see it. The system works, yes, about every other year because it demands near perfection from the defense and goaltending who just cannot recover from all that in a short offseason. So, we will of course go into next year with the same system, we'll go deep in the playoffs, and we'll come back in the 2004-2005 season (if we still have a team then) and suck again but of course, due to the previous year, Mo's job will again be safe.
Here's hoping I am completely wrong....that either the system doesn't mow through players like hedge cutters and this year was just a fluke or that we change the system. But I knew Mo wasn't going anywhere so this isn't shocking to me or anything. I've always been this pessimistic. :beatup:
guinevere
04-08-2003, 02:38 PM
I'm so disgusted. So if this season was adequate to keep the current coaching staff what exactly would be considered unacceptable? Losing so badly that they start substracting points from next year? http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/38786-6.gif
Or maybe so bad that the players stage a coup and start taking direction from Tripp via wired helmet mikes. http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/sportifs2.gif
Maybe we should take up a collection and send Mo a "Hockey Coaching for Dummies" to get him started on next years plan. http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/1041874661.gif
I knew in my heart that they weren't going to make a change but just couldn't believe it. Not a happy camper am I.
Guin
guinevere
04-08-2003, 02:38 PM
I'm so disgusted. So if this season was adequate to keep the current coaching staff what exactly would be considered unacceptable? Losing so badly that they start substracting points from next year? http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/38786-6.gif
Or maybe so bad that the players stage a coup and start taking direction from Tripp via wired helmet mikes. http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/sportifs2.gif
Maybe we should take up a collection and send Mo a "Hockey Coaching for Dummies" to get him started on next years plan. http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/1041874661.gif
I knew in my heart that they weren't going to make a change but just couldn't believe it. Not a happy camper am I.
Guin
guinevere
04-08-2003, 02:38 PM
I'm so disgusted. So if this season was adequate to keep the current coaching staff what exactly would be considered unacceptable? Losing so badly that they start substracting points from next year? http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/38786-6.gif
Or maybe so bad that the players stage a coup and start taking direction from Tripp via wired helmet mikes. http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/sportifs2.gif
Maybe we should take up a collection and send Mo a "Hockey Coaching for Dummies" to get him started on next years plan. http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/1041874661.gif
I knew in my heart that they weren't going to make a change but just couldn't believe it. Not a happy camper am I.
Guin
tommy
04-08-2003, 02:47 PM
So, I'm guessing JR's "evaluation" of the coaching staff consisted of a quick look in Mo's mouth to see if he still had enough teeth left to chew that gum. :roll:
You know, he also realizes that the players really stank it up this year. It's not like Mo told Brindy, Cole, et al, to go get injured and for Weekes and Irbe to start seeing who could play worse.
Maurice is a good coach here, and lots of other organizations could learn from that.
On ESPN, they said that less than half of the teams who made coaching changes made the playoffs, so would the anticipated change in style really come into effect that quick or that well?
tommy
04-08-2003, 02:47 PM
So, I'm guessing JR's "evaluation" of the coaching staff consisted of a quick look in Mo's mouth to see if he still had enough teeth left to chew that gum. :roll:
You know, he also realizes that the players really stank it up this year. It's not like Mo told Brindy, Cole, et al, to go get injured and for Weekes and Irbe to start seeing who could play worse.
Maurice is a good coach here, and lots of other organizations could learn from that.
On ESPN, they said that less than half of the teams who made coaching changes made the playoffs, so would the anticipated change in style really come into effect that quick or that well?
tommy
04-08-2003, 02:47 PM
So, I'm guessing JR's "evaluation" of the coaching staff consisted of a quick look in Mo's mouth to see if he still had enough teeth left to chew that gum. :roll:
You know, he also realizes that the players really stank it up this year. It's not like Mo told Brindy, Cole, et al, to go get injured and for Weekes and Irbe to start seeing who could play worse.
Maurice is a good coach here, and lots of other organizations could learn from that.
On ESPN, they said that less than half of the teams who made coaching changes made the playoffs, so would the anticipated change in style really come into effect that quick or that well?
Stormbringer
04-08-2003, 02:48 PM
I'm happy. You don't become the longest tenured coach in the league being a bad coach...Mo's 'system' worked two years ago and it can work again.
I'm very happy to hear about Tanabe being shopped. I was afraid we'd try to keep him after the coach Mo interview a few nights ago. He is dead weight. Maybe he can go in a package deal with Irbe.
Irbe, Irbe. We have 2 goaltenders now and we don't need Archie. He'll report straight to Lowell if he is still a part of this organization come camp-time. His time with this team is finally up. I wish him well somewhere else.
Overall, I'm happy that this coaching staff is staying. If they get rid of the dump and chase we can be a very successful team.
So, I'm guessing JR's "evaluation" of the coaching staff consisted of a quick look in Mo's mouth to see if he still had enough teeth left to chew that gum. :roll:
You know, he also realizes that the players really stank it up this year. It's not like Mo told Brindy, Cole, et al, to go get injured and for Weekes and Irbe to start seeing who could play worse.
Maurice is a good coach here, and lots of other organizations could learn from that.
On ESPN, they said that less than half of the teams who made coaching changes made the playoffs, so would the anticipated change in style really come into effect that quick or that well?
I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said Turby and Tommy...wanna start a Caniac Psychic Friends Network? ;)
Stormbringer
04-08-2003, 02:48 PM
I'm happy. You don't become the longest tenured coach in the league being a bad coach...Mo's 'system' worked two years ago and it can work again.
I'm very happy to hear about Tanabe being shopped. I was afraid we'd try to keep him after the coach Mo interview a few nights ago. He is dead weight. Maybe he can go in a package deal with Irbe.
Irbe, Irbe. We have 2 goaltenders now and we don't need Archie. He'll report straight to Lowell if he is still a part of this organization come camp-time. His time with this team is finally up. I wish him well somewhere else.
Overall, I'm happy that this coaching staff is staying. If they get rid of the dump and chase we can be a very successful team.
So, I'm guessing JR's "evaluation" of the coaching staff consisted of a quick look in Mo's mouth to see if he still had enough teeth left to chew that gum. :roll:
You know, he also realizes that the players really stank it up this year. It's not like Mo told Brindy, Cole, et al, to go get injured and for Weekes and Irbe to start seeing who could play worse.
Maurice is a good coach here, and lots of other organizations could learn from that.
On ESPN, they said that less than half of the teams who made coaching changes made the playoffs, so would the anticipated change in style really come into effect that quick or that well?
I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said Turby and Tommy...wanna start a Caniac Psychic Friends Network? ;)
Stormbringer
04-08-2003, 02:48 PM
I'm happy. You don't become the longest tenured coach in the league being a bad coach...Mo's 'system' worked two years ago and it can work again.
I'm very happy to hear about Tanabe being shopped. I was afraid we'd try to keep him after the coach Mo interview a few nights ago. He is dead weight. Maybe he can go in a package deal with Irbe.
Irbe, Irbe. We have 2 goaltenders now and we don't need Archie. He'll report straight to Lowell if he is still a part of this organization come camp-time. His time with this team is finally up. I wish him well somewhere else.
Overall, I'm happy that this coaching staff is staying. If they get rid of the dump and chase we can be a very successful team.
So, I'm guessing JR's "evaluation" of the coaching staff consisted of a quick look in Mo's mouth to see if he still had enough teeth left to chew that gum. :roll:
You know, he also realizes that the players really stank it up this year. It's not like Mo told Brindy, Cole, et al, to go get injured and for Weekes and Irbe to start seeing who could play worse.
Maurice is a good coach here, and lots of other organizations could learn from that.
On ESPN, they said that less than half of the teams who made coaching changes made the playoffs, so would the anticipated change in style really come into effect that quick or that well?
I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said Turby and Tommy...wanna start a Caniac Psychic Friends Network? ;)
SouthernHockeyChick
04-08-2003, 03:14 PM
You know, he also realizes that the players really stank it up this year. It's not like Mo told Brindy, Cole, et al, to go get injured and for Weekes and Irbe to start seeing who could play worse.
We sucked before the injuries. The only time this season this team was consistently getting points was during the home-stand.....and that was solely because of Kevin Weekes. We started sucking in training camp and didn't stop all year. Yes, some of that is the players' fault but some of that is also the coach's fault, IMO. These are the same players that got us to the finals last year, just as can be said about the coaches, so neither can be absolved of all guilt.
IMVHO, Mo's system is ridiculous, he messed with the the goalies' heads, he messed with Kapanen's head, he won't take risks, he plays to not lose and not to win and he doesn't know how to utilize the strengths of the players he has. I don't like that. I want a new coach for next season. Feel free to disagree but I don't think you can blame this season on the injuries.
SouthernHockeyChick
04-08-2003, 03:14 PM
You know, he also realizes that the players really stank it up this year. It's not like Mo told Brindy, Cole, et al, to go get injured and for Weekes and Irbe to start seeing who could play worse.
We sucked before the injuries. The only time this season this team was consistently getting points was during the home-stand.....and that was solely because of Kevin Weekes. We started sucking in training camp and didn't stop all year. Yes, some of that is the players' fault but some of that is also the coach's fault, IMO. These are the same players that got us to the finals last year, just as can be said about the coaches, so neither can be absolved of all guilt.
IMVHO, Mo's system is ridiculous, he messed with the the goalies' heads, he messed with Kapanen's head, he won't take risks, he plays to not lose and not to win and he doesn't know how to utilize the strengths of the players he has. I don't like that. I want a new coach for next season. Feel free to disagree but I don't think you can blame this season on the injuries.
SouthernHockeyChick
04-08-2003, 03:14 PM
You know, he also realizes that the players really stank it up this year. It's not like Mo told Brindy, Cole, et al, to go get injured and for Weekes and Irbe to start seeing who could play worse.
We sucked before the injuries. The only time this season this team was consistently getting points was during the home-stand.....and that was solely because of Kevin Weekes. We started sucking in training camp and didn't stop all year. Yes, some of that is the players' fault but some of that is also the coach's fault, IMO. These are the same players that got us to the finals last year, just as can be said about the coaches, so neither can be absolved of all guilt.
IMVHO, Mo's system is ridiculous, he messed with the the goalies' heads, he messed with Kapanen's head, he won't take risks, he plays to not lose and not to win and he doesn't know how to utilize the strengths of the players he has. I don't like that. I want a new coach for next season. Feel free to disagree but I don't think you can blame this season on the injuries.
CaniacKikiBB13
04-08-2003, 03:28 PM
I think JR did the right thing. We had an VERY bad season :sick: , but the one before it was our best yet. To me it just would have seemed unfair if he had decided the other way... :roll:
CaniacKikiBB13
04-08-2003, 03:28 PM
I think JR did the right thing. We had an VERY bad season :sick: , but the one before it was our best yet. To me it just would have seemed unfair if he had decided the other way... :roll:
CaniacKikiBB13
04-08-2003, 03:28 PM
I think JR did the right thing. We had an VERY bad season :sick: , but the one before it was our best yet. To me it just would have seemed unfair if he had decided the other way... :roll:
StormShaman
04-08-2003, 03:53 PM
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StormShaman
04-08-2003, 03:53 PM
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04-08-2003, 03:53 PM
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CaniacKikiBB13
04-08-2003, 06:29 PM
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CaniacKikiBB13
04-08-2003, 06:29 PM
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CaniacKikiBB13
04-08-2003, 06:29 PM
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1Irbegirlforever
04-08-2003, 06:55 PM
The Canes will continue to try to move Arturs Irbe, who is owed $5.2 million over the next two seasons. Currently, the Canes don't even plan to invite him to training camp in September. Instead, their intention is to send him straight to minor-league camp.
I know it is best for him and the team as a whole, but , :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
I'll miss you Archie!
1Irbegirlforever
04-08-2003, 06:55 PM
The Canes will continue to try to move Arturs Irbe, who is owed $5.2 million over the next two seasons. Currently, the Canes don't even plan to invite him to training camp in September. Instead, their intention is to send him straight to minor-league camp.
I know it is best for him and the team as a whole, but , :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
I'll miss you Archie!
1Irbegirlforever
04-08-2003, 06:55 PM
The Canes will continue to try to move Arturs Irbe, who is owed $5.2 million over the next two seasons. Currently, the Canes don't even plan to invite him to training camp in September. Instead, their intention is to send him straight to minor-league camp.
I know it is best for him and the team as a whole, but , :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
I'll miss you Archie!
tommy
04-08-2003, 07:30 PM
You know, he also realizes that the players really stank it up this year. It's not like Mo told Brindy, Cole, et al, to go get injured and for Weekes and Irbe to start seeing who could play worse.
We sucked before the injuries. The only time this season this team was consistently getting points was during the home-stand.....and that was solely because of Kevin Weekes. We started sucking in training camp and didn't stop all year. Yes, some of that is the players' fault but some of that is also the coach's fault, IMO. These are the same players that got us to the finals last year, just as can be said about the coaches, so neither can be absolved of all guilt.
IMVHO, Mo's system is ridiculous, he messed with the the goalies' heads, he messed with Kapanen's head, he won't take risks, he plays to not lose and not to win and he doesn't know how to utilize the strengths of the players he has. I don't like that. I want a new coach for next season. Feel free to disagree but I don't think you can blame this season on the injuries.
With Brindy and Cole, we EASILY would have gotten more than the 171 goals this year...
With the constant line shifting caused by the injuries, players were forced to hastily develop on-ice relations with players that they normally would not have done so with. Without the injuries, that mix-up is not present, and thus linemates actually know each others' tendencies.
You can't tell me that we would have wound up with 61 points with Brindy and Cole fixed and Weekes non-concussed.
It's not like the Canes don't play offense. We were NINTH in the league in shots on goal per game, with an average of 30. We weren't just sitting at the blue line all game.
Can't pin it on Maurice like that.
P.S. Yeah the same roster... for the first half of the season; there were like 8 people on the roster who weren't there during the SCFs.
tommy
04-08-2003, 07:30 PM
You know, he also realizes that the players really stank it up this year. It's not like Mo told Brindy, Cole, et al, to go get injured and for Weekes and Irbe to start seeing who could play worse.
We sucked before the injuries. The only time this season this team was consistently getting points was during the home-stand.....and that was solely because of Kevin Weekes. We started sucking in training camp and didn't stop all year. Yes, some of that is the players' fault but some of that is also the coach's fault, IMO. These are the same players that got us to the finals last year, just as can be said about the coaches, so neither can be absolved of all guilt.
IMVHO, Mo's system is ridiculous, he messed with the the goalies' heads, he messed with Kapanen's head, he won't take risks, he plays to not lose and not to win and he doesn't know how to utilize the strengths of the players he has. I don't like that. I want a new coach for next season. Feel free to disagree but I don't think you can blame this season on the injuries.
With Brindy and Cole, we EASILY would have gotten more than the 171 goals this year...
With the constant line shifting caused by the injuries, players were forced to hastily develop on-ice relations with players that they normally would not have done so with. Without the injuries, that mix-up is not present, and thus linemates actually know each others' tendencies.
You can't tell me that we would have wound up with 61 points with Brindy and Cole fixed and Weekes non-concussed.
It's not like the Canes don't play offense. We were NINTH in the league in shots on goal per game, with an average of 30. We weren't just sitting at the blue line all game.
Can't pin it on Maurice like that.
P.S. Yeah the same roster... for the first half of the season; there were like 8 people on the roster who weren't there during the SCFs.
tommy
04-08-2003, 07:30 PM
You know, he also realizes that the players really stank it up this year. It's not like Mo told Brindy, Cole, et al, to go get injured and for Weekes and Irbe to start seeing who could play worse.
We sucked before the injuries. The only time this season this team was consistently getting points was during the home-stand.....and that was solely because of Kevin Weekes. We started sucking in training camp and didn't stop all year. Yes, some of that is the players' fault but some of that is also the coach's fault, IMO. These are the same players that got us to the finals last year, just as can be said about the coaches, so neither can be absolved of all guilt.
IMVHO, Mo's system is ridiculous, he messed with the the goalies' heads, he messed with Kapanen's head, he won't take risks, he plays to not lose and not to win and he doesn't know how to utilize the strengths of the players he has. I don't like that. I want a new coach for next season. Feel free to disagree but I don't think you can blame this season on the injuries.
With Brindy and Cole, we EASILY would have gotten more than the 171 goals this year...
With the constant line shifting caused by the injuries, players were forced to hastily develop on-ice relations with players that they normally would not have done so with. Without the injuries, that mix-up is not present, and thus linemates actually know each others' tendencies.
You can't tell me that we would have wound up with 61 points with Brindy and Cole fixed and Weekes non-concussed.
It's not like the Canes don't play offense. We were NINTH in the league in shots on goal per game, with an average of 30. We weren't just sitting at the blue line all game.
Can't pin it on Maurice like that.
P.S. Yeah the same roster... for the first half of the season; there were like 8 people on the roster who weren't there during the SCFs.
SouthernHockeyChick
04-08-2003, 07:47 PM
Brind'Amour was not injured until January 20. We sucked already. I was alreayd thinking it was over in December.
Mo is notorious for mixing up the lines....without injuries....that's just the way he coaches.
Shots on goal....most of our shots on goal in most games are from the blueline or just inside it. Maybe if we'd skated the puck in more and had more shots from close-in we might have scored a bit more...again, a coaching decision.
You say to-ma-to, I say to-mah-to.
SouthernHockeyChick
04-08-2003, 07:47 PM
Brind'Amour was not injured until January 20. We sucked already. I was alreayd thinking it was over in December.
Mo is notorious for mixing up the lines....without injuries....that's just the way he coaches.
Shots on goal....most of our shots on goal in most games are from the blueline or just inside it. Maybe if we'd skated the puck in more and had more shots from close-in we might have scored a bit more...again, a coaching decision.
You say to-ma-to, I say to-mah-to.
SouthernHockeyChick
04-08-2003, 07:47 PM
Brind'Amour was not injured until January 20. We sucked already. I was alreayd thinking it was over in December.
Mo is notorious for mixing up the lines....without injuries....that's just the way he coaches.
Shots on goal....most of our shots on goal in most games are from the blueline or just inside it. Maybe if we'd skated the puck in more and had more shots from close-in we might have scored a bit more...again, a coaching decision.
You say to-ma-to, I say to-mah-to.
tommy
04-08-2003, 07:53 PM
Brind'Amour was not injured until January 22. We sucked already. I was alreayd thinking it was over in December.
Mo is notorious for mixing up the lines....without injuries....that's just the way he coaches.
Shots on goal....most of our shots on goal in most games are from the blueline or just inside it. Maybe if we'd skated the puck in more and had more shots from close-in we might have scored a bit more...again, a coaching decision.
You say to-ma-to, I say to-mah-to.
Notorious for testing line combos maybe, but when in 2001-2002, UNTIL THINGS STARTED TO GO ASTRAY SOME, did you see the FOK, BBC, Vasicek line, or 4th line messed with?
And if we had more skilled defensemen, shooting from inside the blueline wouldn't matter. If Kapanen had taken any freakin shots from when he was on the point on the PP for three months, maybe he could have scored. At least Ward tried that a few times. For example, Al MacInnis scores nearly all of his goals from just inside the blueline. All it takes is a few shots going in, and your confidence is through the roof, and you're a pro at it. I think that it would have been better if the breaks would have gone our way.
tommy
04-08-2003, 07:53 PM
Brind'Amour was not injured until January 22. We sucked already. I was alreayd thinking it was over in December.
Mo is notorious for mixing up the lines....without injuries....that's just the way he coaches.
Shots on goal....most of our shots on goal in most games are from the blueline or just inside it. Maybe if we'd skated the puck in more and had more shots from close-in we might have scored a bit more...again, a coaching decision.
You say to-ma-to, I say to-mah-to.
Notorious for testing line combos maybe, but when in 2001-2002, UNTIL THINGS STARTED TO GO ASTRAY SOME, did you see the FOK, BBC, Vasicek line, or 4th line messed with?
And if we had more skilled defensemen, shooting from inside the blueline wouldn't matter. If Kapanen had taken any freakin shots from when he was on the point on the PP for three months, maybe he could have scored. At least Ward tried that a few times. For example, Al MacInnis scores nearly all of his goals from just inside the blueline. All it takes is a few shots going in, and your confidence is through the roof, and you're a pro at it. I think that it would have been better if the breaks would have gone our way.
tommy
04-08-2003, 07:53 PM
Brind'Amour was not injured until January 22. We sucked already. I was alreayd thinking it was over in December.
Mo is notorious for mixing up the lines....without injuries....that's just the way he coaches.
Shots on goal....most of our shots on goal in most games are from the blueline or just inside it. Maybe if we'd skated the puck in more and had more shots from close-in we might have scored a bit more...again, a coaching decision.
You say to-ma-to, I say to-mah-to.
Notorious for testing line combos maybe, but when in 2001-2002, UNTIL THINGS STARTED TO GO ASTRAY SOME, did you see the FOK, BBC, Vasicek line, or 4th line messed with?
And if we had more skilled defensemen, shooting from inside the blueline wouldn't matter. If Kapanen had taken any freakin shots from when he was on the point on the PP for three months, maybe he could have scored. At least Ward tried that a few times. For example, Al MacInnis scores nearly all of his goals from just inside the blueline. All it takes is a few shots going in, and your confidence is through the roof, and you're a pro at it. I think that it would have been better if the breaks would have gone our way.
SouthernHockeyChick
04-08-2003, 08:00 PM
Notorious for testing line combos maybe, but when in 2001-2002, UNTIL THINGS STARTED TO GO ASTRAY SOME, did you see the FOK, BBC, Vasicek line, or 4th line messed with?
Actually, I remember moving O'Neill off the top-line and messing around with a few other combos to try and bring Sami out of his funk for one thing. And, while I cannot give specific examples, I'm sure there were others and I know I am not the only one who noticed it.
If Kapanen had taken any freakin shots from when he was on the point on the PP for three months, maybe he could have scored.
Whose decision was it to play him on the point? Perfect example of how MO misused talent, IMO. And I know you disagree, but I still am afraid we are seeing him do the same thing with Vrbata.
But, as I said before, you say to-ma-to, I say to-mah-to. We disagree....I'm done now.
SouthernHockeyChick
04-08-2003, 08:00 PM
Notorious for testing line combos maybe, but when in 2001-2002, UNTIL THINGS STARTED TO GO ASTRAY SOME, did you see the FOK, BBC, Vasicek line, or 4th line messed with?
Actually, I remember moving O'Neill off the top-line and messing around with a few other combos to try and bring Sami out of his funk for one thing. And, while I cannot give specific examples, I'm sure there were others and I know I am not the only one who noticed it.
If Kapanen had taken any freakin shots from when he was on the point on the PP for three months, maybe he could have scored.
Whose decision was it to play him on the point? Perfect example of how MO misused talent, IMO. And I know you disagree, but I still am afraid we are seeing him do the same thing with Vrbata.
But, as I said before, you say to-ma-to, I say to-mah-to. We disagree....I'm done now.
SouthernHockeyChick
04-08-2003, 08:00 PM
Notorious for testing line combos maybe, but when in 2001-2002, UNTIL THINGS STARTED TO GO ASTRAY SOME, did you see the FOK, BBC, Vasicek line, or 4th line messed with?
Actually, I remember moving O'Neill off the top-line and messing around with a few other combos to try and bring Sami out of his funk for one thing. And, while I cannot give specific examples, I'm sure there were others and I know I am not the only one who noticed it.
If Kapanen had taken any freakin shots from when he was on the point on the PP for three months, maybe he could have scored.
Whose decision was it to play him on the point? Perfect example of how MO misused talent, IMO. And I know you disagree, but I still am afraid we are seeing him do the same thing with Vrbata.
But, as I said before, you say to-ma-to, I say to-mah-to. We disagree....I'm done now.
tommy
04-08-2003, 08:02 PM
I guess that's a valid point about Kappy on the PP, but still, my point is that if ANYONE had any confidence this year (and maybe it's just hard to have it when you're that tired), it would have been a TON better.
Who was to "blame" for the run to the Cup last season? (Or I guess it's technically two season ago, now. Gosh that's scary.)
tommy
04-08-2003, 08:02 PM
I guess that's a valid point about Kappy on the PP, but still, my point is that if ANYONE had any confidence this year (and maybe it's just hard to have it when you're that tired), it would have been a TON better.
Who was to "blame" for the run to the Cup last season? (Or I guess it's technically two season ago, now. Gosh that's scary.)
tommy
04-08-2003, 08:02 PM
I guess that's a valid point about Kappy on the PP, but still, my point is that if ANYONE had any confidence this year (and maybe it's just hard to have it when you're that tired), it would have been a TON better.
Who was to "blame" for the run to the Cup last season? (Or I guess it's technically two season ago, now. Gosh that's scary.)
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