Interesting difference in war coverage.

[Jillsdad]

While watching the Fox News Channel on Saturday, they had exclusive footage of a US armored convoy driving down a main boulevard in Baghdad. The correspondent who was shooting the video was Greg Kelly a former Marine. He reported for FNC that they had driven right through the middle of Baghdad in broad daylight and had experienced only light resistence and unorganized fire from the enemy. CBS News used the FNC footage that Greg Kelly shot for their war update in between the 2 final four semifinal games. However they reported that the armored convoy had faced fierce resistance from the enemy, which was the polar opposite of what the guy that was there said. Interesting difference in philosophy on news coverage of the same event I thought.

For those that are interested Fox News Channel has great coverage.

[Jillsdad]

While watching the Fox News Channel on Saturday, they had exclusive footage of a US armored convoy driving down a main boulevard in Baghdad. The correspondent who was shooting the video was Greg Kelly a former Marine. He reported for FNC that they had driven right through the middle of Baghdad in broad daylight and had experienced only light resistence and unorganized fire from the enemy. CBS News used the FNC footage that Greg Kelly shot for their war update in between the 2 final four semifinal games. However they reported that the armored convoy had faced fierce resistance from the enemy, which was the polar opposite of what the guy that was there said. Interesting difference in philosophy on news coverage of the same event I thought.

For those that are interested Fox News Channel has great coverage.

[Jillsdad]

While watching the Fox News Channel on Saturday, they had exclusive footage of a US armored convoy driving down a main boulevard in Baghdad. The correspondent who was shooting the video was Greg Kelly a former Marine. He reported for FNC that they had driven right through the middle of Baghdad in broad daylight and had experienced only light resistence and unorganized fire from the enemy. CBS News used the FNC footage that Greg Kelly shot for their war update in between the 2 final four semifinal games. However they reported that the armored convoy had faced fierce resistance from the enemy, which was the polar opposite of what the guy that was there said. Interesting difference in philosophy on news coverage of the same event I thought.

For those that are interested Fox News Channel has great coverage.

[Shell]

yep, I watch Fox News more than any others.. once I get through the whole blurb though I like to change to MSNBC and CNN just to see the bias. It is amazing.. turn the TV on and we're winning the war, flip the channel and we're losing it horribly. Go figure.

[Shell]

yep, I watch Fox News more than any others.. once I get through the whole blurb though I like to change to MSNBC and CNN just to see the bias. It is amazing.. turn the TV on and we're winning the war, flip the channel and we're losing it horribly. Go figure.

[Shell]

yep, I watch Fox News more than any others.. once I get through the whole blurb though I like to change to MSNBC and CNN just to see the bias. It is amazing.. turn the TV on and we're winning the war, flip the channel and we're losing it horribly. Go figure.

[Guyute]

yeah, check out some papers from DC... you'd think that if we don't tuck tail and run Immediately, we're going to have our entire military slaughtered.

unreal.

and then there's the "why is this taking SO long" constituents. :roll:

we'll be just about done with these people long before the 40 days are up... which is how long we bombed for in Desert Storm before even sending infantry in. idiots.

[Guyute]

yeah, check out some papers from DC... you'd think that if we don't tuck tail and run Immediately, we're going to have our entire military slaughtered.

unreal.

and then there's the "why is this taking SO long" constituents. :roll:

we'll be just about done with these people long before the 40 days are up... which is how long we bombed for in Desert Storm before even sending infantry in. idiots.

[Guyute]

yeah, check out some papers from DC... you'd think that if we don't tuck tail and run Immediately, we're going to have our entire military slaughtered.

unreal.

and then there's the "why is this taking SO long" constituents. :roll:

we'll be just about done with these people long before the 40 days are up... which is how long we bombed for in Desert Storm before even sending infantry in. idiots.

[JaroFan]

I'm glad to know there's others watching Fox News. It's what I get most of my information from. I like Ollie North's reports too.

[JaroFan]

I'm glad to know there's others watching Fox News. It's what I get most of my information from. I like Ollie North's reports too.

[JaroFan]

I'm glad to know there's others watching Fox News. It's what I get most of my information from. I like Ollie North's reports too.

[nccanes]

If we're polling....my husband surfs newschannels, but if I get the remote, I switch from FOX news as soon as I can. Just my preference I suppose. I think each network has bias, it's just the bias/stance that makes the view more comfortable for you, imo.

For me, I prefer that MSNBC can tap into more experienced journalists (Andrea Mitchell and Jim Miklaszewski for example) available from NBC. If we're talking about the "talking head" shows (O'Reilly, Matthews, etc.) - well, I prefer not to watch any of them for "news".

[nccanes]

If we're polling....my husband surfs newschannels, but if I get the remote, I switch from FOX news as soon as I can. Just my preference I suppose. I think each network has bias, it's just the bias/stance that makes the view more comfortable for you, imo.

For me, I prefer that MSNBC can tap into more experienced journalists (Andrea Mitchell and Jim Miklaszewski for example) available from NBC. If we're talking about the "talking head" shows (O'Reilly, Matthews, etc.) - well, I prefer not to watch any of them for "news".

[nccanes]

If we're polling....my husband surfs newschannels, but if I get the remote, I switch from FOX news as soon as I can. Just my preference I suppose. I think each network has bias, it's just the bias/stance that makes the view more comfortable for you, imo.

For me, I prefer that MSNBC can tap into more experienced journalists (Andrea Mitchell and Jim Miklaszewski for example) available from NBC. If we're talking about the "talking head" shows (O'Reilly, Matthews, etc.) - well, I prefer not to watch any of them for "news".

[Guyute]

well damn, you mean FNC isn't "Fair & Balanced" ?????? http://www.tridead.net/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif
gimme a break. :p

I do watch a lot of MSNBC as well, I think their "journalists" are a small step above most others.

I like listening to what multiple sides are saying... which is why I listen to a lot of 680am. I've even listened to Rush a few times since this war started. Normally listening to him, for me, would be a form of torture comparable to chinese water torture....
but there's something comical about an extremist like him during all this. ;) though he does some democrat bashing a fair amount, which doesn't really bother me... as I'm not a supporter of either mainstream party. they're all morons with the same agenda... just different means to reach their arse. er, end I mean. reach the same end. :roll:

[Guyute]

well damn, you mean FNC isn't "Fair & Balanced" ?????? http://www.tridead.net/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif
gimme a break. :p

I do watch a lot of MSNBC as well, I think their "journalists" are a small step above most others.

I like listening to what multiple sides are saying... which is why I listen to a lot of 680am. I've even listened to Rush a few times since this war started. Normally listening to him, for me, would be a form of torture comparable to chinese water torture....
but there's something comical about an extremist like him during all this. ;) though he does some democrat bashing a fair amount, which doesn't really bother me... as I'm not a supporter of either mainstream party. they're all morons with the same agenda... just different means to reach their arse. er, end I mean. reach the same end. :roll:

[Guyute]

well damn, you mean FNC isn't "Fair & Balanced" ?????? http://www.tridead.net/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif
gimme a break. :p

I do watch a lot of MSNBC as well, I think their "journalists" are a small step above most others.

I like listening to what multiple sides are saying... which is why I listen to a lot of 680am. I've even listened to Rush a few times since this war started. Normally listening to him, for me, would be a form of torture comparable to chinese water torture....
but there's something comical about an extremist like him during all this. ;) though he does some democrat bashing a fair amount, which doesn't really bother me... as I'm not a supporter of either mainstream party. they're all morons with the same agenda... just different means to reach their arse. er, end I mean. reach the same end. :roll:

[talkingcanes]

I flip between the big 3 24-hour channels. Each of them has strengths and weaknesses. I don't like the "talk shows" except for Chris Matthews. There's something about him I like.

I still find myself waiting for David Bloom to report in on MSNBC :sad:

[talkingcanes]

I flip between the big 3 24-hour channels. Each of them has strengths and weaknesses. I don't like the "talk shows" except for Chris Matthews. There's something about him I like.

I still find myself waiting for David Bloom to report in on MSNBC :sad:

[talkingcanes]

I flip between the big 3 24-hour channels. Each of them has strengths and weaknesses. I don't like the "talk shows" except for Chris Matthews. There's something about him I like.

I still find myself waiting for David Bloom to report in on MSNBC :sad:

[nccanes]

Hey, since a bunch of you watch FOX News. What ever happened with Geraldo? Is he still "embedded" or back in Kuwait or what? Never did hear the end of that deal.

And speaking of journalists in strange places, isn't it odd that Ashleigh Banfield who used to plastered all over MSNBC is in Kentucky?

[nccanes]

Hey, since a bunch of you watch FOX News. What ever happened with Geraldo? Is he still "embedded" or back in Kuwait or what? Never did hear the end of that deal.

And speaking of journalists in strange places, isn't it odd that Ashleigh Banfield who used to plastered all over MSNBC is in Kentucky?

[nccanes]

Hey, since a bunch of you watch FOX News. What ever happened with Geraldo? Is he still "embedded" or back in Kuwait or what? Never did hear the end of that deal.

And speaking of journalists in strange places, isn't it odd that Ashleigh Banfield who used to plastered all over MSNBC is in Kentucky?

[Shell]

Got this from Drudge and not fox, but:

Posted on Tue, Apr. 08, 2003

BRIAN LAMBERT: Caught in the Geraldo sideshow
Media Columnist

Dean Staley and Joe Caffrey, the KSTP-TV, Channel 5, team embedded with the 101st Airborne in Iraq, got their own slice of the Geraldo Rivera story last week.

Viewers may have seen Staley and Caffrey's piece Wednesday on 5's late news. Looking like a Peshmurga fighter by way of Orvis outdoor fashion, Rivera conceded that he felt scolded, but that, after a shower and a beer, he was determined to get back into the action.

Staley sent an e-mail a couple of days later, saying, "Joe and I were working on a story in our camp here in the middle of the desert." (The two have been moving back and forth by helicopter but at the time of the Rivera encounter were somewhere near Karbala).

"We looked up, and there were Geraldo and his producers climbing out of a Humvee." Asked if Rivera seemed at all remorseful about the situation, especially since he was still denying any awareness of the military's displeasure with him and accusing the "rats" at NBC, MSNBC and CNBC of "stabbing me in the back" with "a pack of lies," Staley thought, no.

"He was not remorseful. He seemed tired. (He said he had spent several weeks in Afghanistan before coming to Iraq, where he had been for a week.) "He said he felt scolded but that infantry troops he had been embedded with wanted him to stay." As Staley and Caffrey showed in their filmed report, Rivera signed a few autographs, exchanged a few soul hugs and headed off for the flight back to professional exile in Kuwait. He could have been the drummer for some aging rock band choppering out of the Arizona State Fairgrounds show.

Say what you will about Geraldo, a self-aggrandizing cartoon, an action junkie, you name it: The guy is in no danger of living a small, gray, forgettable life.

Staley went on to say, "A handful of troops here wanted pictures with G and autographs. A few shook his hand. Others here wanted to harm him, were disgusted with him, thought he should have been sent home in a Humvee (a 40-hour drive south through the desert).

"We later found out a few who shook his hand had put those hands in unmentionable places prior. Army justice?"

The Rivera and Peter Arnett stories have been quickly and appropriately pushed aside as the sideshows they are. Primarily, they are a distraction for other media types — ripe, easy fodder for columnists and radio fulminators.

Meanwhile, the real work of covering the war goes on, the vast majority of it covered quite well by lower-key reporters and photographers like Staley and Caffrey, CNN's grisly Walt Rodgers and the perpetually sand-encrusted Ryan Chilcote.

But anybody who has vented indignantly over Rivera's and Arnett's transgressions should reflect a moment on criticism heaped on CNN's Aaron Brown. His crime, it seems to me, is largely that he isn't Geraldo or Arnett enough.

Brown is getting ripped for the way he is forever starting and pausing and re-reconsidering precisely the right question, while attention-getting correspondents like Rivera fire away with whatever makes for hot, combat-wrangler eye and ear candy.

For all the time we've spent watching Brown the past three weeks, it would be nice if he'd discipline himself to questions no longer than 25 words. But at least the questions he (eventually) asks are thoughtful and demonstrate a desire to avoid gross redundancy.

[Shell]

Got this from Drudge and not fox, but:

Posted on Tue, Apr. 08, 2003

BRIAN LAMBERT: Caught in the Geraldo sideshow
Media Columnist

Dean Staley and Joe Caffrey, the KSTP-TV, Channel 5, team embedded with the 101st Airborne in Iraq, got their own slice of the Geraldo Rivera story last week.

Viewers may have seen Staley and Caffrey's piece Wednesday on 5's late news. Looking like a Peshmurga fighter by way of Orvis outdoor fashion, Rivera conceded that he felt scolded, but that, after a shower and a beer, he was determined to get back into the action.

Staley sent an e-mail a couple of days later, saying, "Joe and I were working on a story in our camp here in the middle of the desert." (The two have been moving back and forth by helicopter but at the time of the Rivera encounter were somewhere near Karbala).

"We looked up, and there were Geraldo and his producers climbing out of a Humvee." Asked if Rivera seemed at all remorseful about the situation, especially since he was still denying any awareness of the military's displeasure with him and accusing the "rats" at NBC, MSNBC and CNBC of "stabbing me in the back" with "a pack of lies," Staley thought, no.

"He was not remorseful. He seemed tired. (He said he had spent several weeks in Afghanistan before coming to Iraq, where he had been for a week.) "He said he felt scolded but that infantry troops he had been embedded with wanted him to stay." As Staley and Caffrey showed in their filmed report, Rivera signed a few autographs, exchanged a few soul hugs and headed off for the flight back to professional exile in Kuwait. He could have been the drummer for some aging rock band choppering out of the Arizona State Fairgrounds show.

Say what you will about Geraldo, a self-aggrandizing cartoon, an action junkie, you name it: The guy is in no danger of living a small, gray, forgettable life.

Staley went on to say, "A handful of troops here wanted pictures with G and autographs. A few shook his hand. Others here wanted to harm him, were disgusted with him, thought he should have been sent home in a Humvee (a 40-hour drive south through the desert).

"We later found out a few who shook his hand had put those hands in unmentionable places prior. Army justice?"

The Rivera and Peter Arnett stories have been quickly and appropriately pushed aside as the sideshows they are. Primarily, they are a distraction for other media types — ripe, easy fodder for columnists and radio fulminators.

Meanwhile, the real work of covering the war goes on, the vast majority of it covered quite well by lower-key reporters and photographers like Staley and Caffrey, CNN's grisly Walt Rodgers and the perpetually sand-encrusted Ryan Chilcote.

But anybody who has vented indignantly over Rivera's and Arnett's transgressions should reflect a moment on criticism heaped on CNN's Aaron Brown. His crime, it seems to me, is largely that he isn't Geraldo or Arnett enough.

Brown is getting ripped for the way he is forever starting and pausing and re-reconsidering precisely the right question, while attention-getting correspondents like Rivera fire away with whatever makes for hot, combat-wrangler eye and ear candy.

For all the time we've spent watching Brown the past three weeks, it would be nice if he'd discipline himself to questions no longer than 25 words. But at least the questions he (eventually) asks are thoughtful and demonstrate a desire to avoid gross redundancy.

[Shell]

Got this from Drudge and not fox, but:

Posted on Tue, Apr. 08, 2003

BRIAN LAMBERT: Caught in the Geraldo sideshow
Media Columnist

Dean Staley and Joe Caffrey, the KSTP-TV, Channel 5, team embedded with the 101st Airborne in Iraq, got their own slice of the Geraldo Rivera story last week.

Viewers may have seen Staley and Caffrey's piece Wednesday on 5's late news. Looking like a Peshmurga fighter by way of Orvis outdoor fashion, Rivera conceded that he felt scolded, but that, after a shower and a beer, he was determined to get back into the action.

Staley sent an e-mail a couple of days later, saying, "Joe and I were working on a story in our camp here in the middle of the desert." (The two have been moving back and forth by helicopter but at the time of the Rivera encounter were somewhere near Karbala).

"We looked up, and there were Geraldo and his producers climbing out of a Humvee." Asked if Rivera seemed at all remorseful about the situation, especially since he was still denying any awareness of the military's displeasure with him and accusing the "rats" at NBC, MSNBC and CNBC of "stabbing me in the back" with "a pack of lies," Staley thought, no.

"He was not remorseful. He seemed tired. (He said he had spent several weeks in Afghanistan before coming to Iraq, where he had been for a week.) "He said he felt scolded but that infantry troops he had been embedded with wanted him to stay." As Staley and Caffrey showed in their filmed report, Rivera signed a few autographs, exchanged a few soul hugs and headed off for the flight back to professional exile in Kuwait. He could have been the drummer for some aging rock band choppering out of the Arizona State Fairgrounds show.

Say what you will about Geraldo, a self-aggrandizing cartoon, an action junkie, you name it: The guy is in no danger of living a small, gray, forgettable life.

Staley went on to say, "A handful of troops here wanted pictures with G and autographs. A few shook his hand. Others here wanted to harm him, were disgusted with him, thought he should have been sent home in a Humvee (a 40-hour drive south through the desert).

"We later found out a few who shook his hand had put those hands in unmentionable places prior. Army justice?"

The Rivera and Peter Arnett stories have been quickly and appropriately pushed aside as the sideshows they are. Primarily, they are a distraction for other media types — ripe, easy fodder for columnists and radio fulminators.

Meanwhile, the real work of covering the war goes on, the vast majority of it covered quite well by lower-key reporters and photographers like Staley and Caffrey, CNN's grisly Walt Rodgers and the perpetually sand-encrusted Ryan Chilcote.

But anybody who has vented indignantly over Rivera's and Arnett's transgressions should reflect a moment on criticism heaped on CNN's Aaron Brown. His crime, it seems to me, is largely that he isn't Geraldo or Arnett enough.

Brown is getting ripped for the way he is forever starting and pausing and re-reconsidering precisely the right question, while attention-getting correspondents like Rivera fire away with whatever makes for hot, combat-wrangler eye and ear candy.

For all the time we've spent watching Brown the past three weeks, it would be nice if he'd discipline himself to questions no longer than 25 words. But at least the questions he (eventually) asks are thoughtful and demonstrate a desire to avoid gross redundancy.

[nccanes]

"We later found out a few who shook his hand had put those hands in unmentionable places prior. Army justice?"



LMAO!

[nccanes]

"We later found out a few who shook his hand had put those hands in unmentionable places prior. Army justice?"



LMAO!

[nccanes]

"We later found out a few who shook his hand had put those hands in unmentionable places prior. Army justice?"



LMAO!

[Caniac]

I'm thinking Geraldo got stink-palmed.

[Caniac]

I'm thinking Geraldo got stink-palmed.

[Caniac]

I'm thinking Geraldo got stink-palmed.

[JaroFan]

I did quickly see Geraldo back in Kuwait apoligizing after that.

Did anyone else hear the funny email Chopper read from some soldier who had been with Geraldo in Afghanistan? He said Geraldo tried to buy a mule from someone to carry his bags but the people wouldn't barter with them, so he hired 2 locals to carry them! Talk about security issues!

[JaroFan]

I did quickly see Geraldo back in Kuwait apoligizing after that.

Did anyone else hear the funny email Chopper read from some soldier who had been with Geraldo in Afghanistan? He said Geraldo tried to buy a mule from someone to carry his bags but the people wouldn't barter with them, so he hired 2 locals to carry them! Talk about security issues!

[JaroFan]

I did quickly see Geraldo back in Kuwait apoligizing after that.

Did anyone else hear the funny email Chopper read from some soldier who had been with Geraldo in Afghanistan? He said Geraldo tried to buy a mule from someone to carry his bags but the people wouldn't barter with them, so he hired 2 locals to carry them! Talk about security issues!