Round 2: Ottawa vs Philly

[Guyute]

Discuss it here

schedule:

1 Fri., April 25 Philadelphia at Ottawa 7 p.m.
2 Sun., April 27 Philadelphia at Ottawa 7 p.m.
3 Tue., April 29 Ottawa at Philadelphia 7 p.m.
4 Thu., May 1 Ottawa at Philadelphia 7 p.m.
*5 Sat., May 3 Philadelphia at Ottawa 3 p.m.
*6 Mon., May 5 Ottawa at Philadelphia 7 p.m.
*7 Wed., May 7 Philadelphia at Ottawa 7 p.m.

[Guyute]

Discuss it here

schedule:

1 Fri., April 25 Philadelphia at Ottawa 7 p.m.
2 Sun., April 27 Philadelphia at Ottawa 7 p.m.
3 Tue., April 29 Ottawa at Philadelphia 7 p.m.
4 Thu., May 1 Ottawa at Philadelphia 7 p.m.
*5 Sat., May 3 Philadelphia at Ottawa 3 p.m.
*6 Mon., May 5 Ottawa at Philadelphia 7 p.m.
*7 Wed., May 7 Philadelphia at Ottawa 7 p.m.

[Guyute]

Well well well.... welcome to the second round boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :beatup:

Payback time.
Last years' 1st round-- # of goals scored: 2.
This years' 1st round-- # of goals scored: 24.

think Ottawa will have an easy time with they flyguys this year? I think not.

The first game will most likely be rough for the flyers. grueling series, not much rest (though at least they're not starting tomorrow)... I expect them to be a little flat. 2nd game will be when they start turning it on.

I like our chances in this one tho... a lot. although it would be nice if the PP could start doing something other than giving up shots. :roll:

[Guyute]

Well well well.... welcome to the second round boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :beatup:

Payback time.
Last years' 1st round-- # of goals scored: 2.
This years' 1st round-- # of goals scored: 24.

think Ottawa will have an easy time with they flyguys this year? I think not.

The first game will most likely be rough for the flyers. grueling series, not much rest (though at least they're not starting tomorrow)... I expect them to be a little flat. 2nd game will be when they start turning it on.

I like our chances in this one tho... a lot. although it would be nice if the PP could start doing something other than giving up shots. :roll:

[crazy4canes]

I'm torn. I want the Sens to win but darn it, Philly had to go and knock off the dreaded Leafs so they've won my admiration (for now). What to do, what to do.

Aww...dammit....Go Sens. *runs and hides from guyute*

edited to say: I won't be disappointed if Philly wins.

[crazy4canes]

I'm torn. I want the Sens to win but darn it, Philly had to go and knock off the dreaded Leafs so they've won my admiration (for now). What to do, what to do.

Aww...dammit....Go Sens. *runs and hides from guyute*

edited to say: I won't be disappointed if Philly wins.

[talkingcanes]

Go Sens!

I do like Philly marginally better than I did before the 1st round and I love Sami, but I gotta hope the Sens can take this one and keep going.

[talkingcanes]

Go Sens!

I do like Philly marginally better than I did before the 1st round and I love Sami, but I gotta hope the Sens can take this one and keep going.

[Night Train]

Well, I am pulling for Philly to get it done (except Primeau).

As long as somebody other than Recchi can score a few goals and Philly doesn't suffer too much of a post-Game 7 hangover, I think they can get it done. Ottawa has a very-talented team, though, and they will be tough.

My (irrational) prediction: Philly in 7.

[Night Train]

Well, I am pulling for Philly to get it done (except Primeau).

As long as somebody other than Recchi can score a few goals and Philly doesn't suffer too much of a post-Game 7 hangover, I think they can get it done. Ottawa has a very-talented team, though, and they will be tough.

My (irrational) prediction: Philly in 7.

[hyena]

obviously, GO FLYERS!! i think they'll be quite ready to take on the sens... yeah, their PP needs to improve, but other than that, i'd really like to see amonte score a few goals. :)

[hyena]

obviously, GO FLYERS!! i think they'll be quite ready to take on the sens... yeah, their PP needs to improve, but other than that, i'd really like to see amonte score a few goals. :)

[lvscolencanes]

I like Philly, yes they are tired, but I think they are on a role. Hopefully. I am becoming more of a Sami fan.....I guess I feel bad for him for getting traded, hoping something good will happen to him in the Post Season...

My prediction Flyguys in 6...

[lvscolencanes]

I like Philly, yes they are tired, but I think they are on a role. Hopefully. I am becoming more of a Sami fan.....I guess I feel bad for him for getting traded, hoping something good will happen to him in the Post Season...

My prediction Flyguys in 6...

[Alicia]

I have sort of adopted Philly, but I feel another 7 game series coming on...

[Alicia]

I have sort of adopted Philly, but I feel another 7 game series coming on...

[canadianinmd]

Many know me as a die hard Leaf fan, so currently I am not too fond of Philly. However, I never did like the Sens as well.
But I feel that first game you will the Sens put it to Philly hard beating them by about 4 goals.
The flyers are physically tired after a "9" game series with leafs (all the OT).
The Sens are well rested and will come out flying.
However, the Flyers have proven they have alot of depth and will wake up in second game.
I really predict who will win, but it will most likely be a 7 game series.

[canadianinmd]

Many know me as a die hard Leaf fan, so currently I am not too fond of Philly. However, I never did like the Sens as well.
But I feel that first game you will the Sens put it to Philly hard beating them by about 4 goals.
The flyers are physically tired after a "9" game series with leafs (all the OT).
The Sens are well rested and will come out flying.
However, the Flyers have proven they have alot of depth and will wake up in second game.
I really predict who will win, but it will most likely be a 7 game series.

[talkingcanes]

Welcome CanadianinMd. You'll like it here :)

[talkingcanes]

Welcome CanadianinMd. You'll like it here :)

[Cool Hand Luke]

I'm going against you Guyute this time. I have to pull for the Sens for all the wrong reasons. A near bankrupt team who's players took temporary paycuts to help keep the team afloat. Now that's character. No sulking, no bad attitudes, no whining, no complaining, and no excuses for losing. (not much losing either) No, this isn't the NBA where they would have walked off the court in similar circumstances! *L* I think Philly is a team to be reckoned with though and I would have to say Vegas would make them the favorite. I wouldn't bet any money against Philly at this point.

Who is the betting favorite by the way, does anyone know?

[Cool Hand Luke]

I'm going against you Guyute this time. I have to pull for the Sens for all the wrong reasons. A near bankrupt team who's players took temporary paycuts to help keep the team afloat. Now that's character. No sulking, no bad attitudes, no whining, no complaining, and no excuses for losing. (not much losing either) No, this isn't the NBA where they would have walked off the court in similar circumstances! *L* I think Philly is a team to be reckoned with though and I would have to say Vegas would make them the favorite. I wouldn't bet any money against Philly at this point.

Who is the betting favorite by the way, does anyone know?

[Guyute]

the site I ocasionally frequent :angel: is giving philly 1.5 on the first game. they're just doing lines one game at a time... no series lines, so I dunno about that.

and I agree... Sens have some class-acts, doing what they did this season to keep the team afloat. but, just by making it to the 2nd round, they're taking in huge amounts of money. so I won't feel bad watching them knocked off. ;) :p

[Guyute]

the site I ocasionally frequent :angel: is giving philly 1.5 on the first game. they're just doing lines one game at a time... no series lines, so I dunno about that.

and I agree... Sens have some class-acts, doing what they did this season to keep the team afloat. but, just by making it to the 2nd round, they're taking in huge amounts of money. so I won't feel bad watching them knocked off. ;) :p

[Shell]

I'm going against you Guyute this time. I have to pull for the Sens for all the wrong reasons. A near bankrupt team who's players took temporary paycuts to help keep the team afloat. Now that's character. No sulking, no bad attitudes, no whining, no complaining, and no excuses for losing. (not much losing either) No, this isn't the NBA where they would have walked off the court in similar circumstances! *L* I think Philly is a team to be reckoned with though and I would have to say Vegas would make them the favorite. I wouldn't bet any money against Philly at this point.

Who is the betting favorite by the way, does anyone know?

That is Exactly why I have liked Ottawa so much this year!! They are a class club.

[Shell]

I'm going against you Guyute this time. I have to pull for the Sens for all the wrong reasons. A near bankrupt team who's players took temporary paycuts to help keep the team afloat. Now that's character. No sulking, no bad attitudes, no whining, no complaining, and no excuses for losing. (not much losing either) No, this isn't the NBA where they would have walked off the court in similar circumstances! *L* I think Philly is a team to be reckoned with though and I would have to say Vegas would make them the favorite. I wouldn't bet any money against Philly at this point.

Who is the betting favorite by the way, does anyone know?

That is Exactly why I have liked Ottawa so much this year!! They are a class club.

[drwFischerFan2]

I would really like to see the Sens win this one. Considering all the financial problems they have had, I really commend them for how well they did this season. But then I also like the Flyers too. I can definately see this being a close 7 game series, which should be pretty entertaining.

[drwFischerFan2]

I would really like to see the Sens win this one. Considering all the financial problems they have had, I really commend them for how well they did this season. But then I also like the Flyers too. I can definately see this being a close 7 game series, which should be pretty entertaining.

[Turbulence]

Like others have said....Sens in a great 7 game series. I don't have much else to add...other than the fact that I would absolutely love for a Canadian team to win the cup again. Ottawa has a great shot this year, especially after the destruction of Colorado and Detroit. Go Sens.

[Turbulence]

Like others have said....Sens in a great 7 game series. I don't have much else to add...other than the fact that I would absolutely love for a Canadian team to win the cup again. Ottawa has a great shot this year, especially after the destruction of Colorado and Detroit. Go Sens.

[Section328crazy]

Can't make up my mind. Lots to hate, lots to luv. Luv the Flyers for beating the Laffs. Hate the Flyers(Primeau) for some of the games with the Canes. Kinda luv Sami. Geez! I pick the Flyers in 6. Going to lose to the Devils in the conference finals though. :roll:

[Section328crazy]

Can't make up my mind. Lots to hate, lots to luv. Luv the Flyers for beating the Laffs. Hate the Flyers(Primeau) for some of the games with the Canes. Kinda luv Sami. Geez! I pick the Flyers in 6. Going to lose to the Devils in the conference finals though. :roll:

[raleighcanesfan]

Flyers...Flyers...Flyers...(never thought I'd cheer for them)

Yes, as Melrose will tell us, they have the fatigue factor, but remember--none of their big guns (Primeau and Amonte) did anything in the first round. I look for them to come alive. Ottawa still cannot play the physical game (even with the minor upgrades they made) and will faulter. On paper anyways...

Which brings us to our overused cliche--

That, ladies and gents, is why they play the game...

[raleighcanesfan]

Flyers...Flyers...Flyers...(never thought I'd cheer for them)

Yes, as Melrose will tell us, they have the fatigue factor, but remember--none of their big guns (Primeau and Amonte) did anything in the first round. I look for them to come alive. Ottawa still cannot play the physical game (even with the minor upgrades they made) and will faulter. On paper anyways...

Which brings us to our overused cliche--

That, ladies and gents, is why they play the game...

[RIO]

I'm going to be divergent here and cheer for the Senators. Mostly because I want to see this fabled "true offense" in action (pokes Guy in the forehead) :D

And I like watching Lalime. Good mover. :) Though, I wouldn't care if the Flyers won either.

[RIO]

I'm going to be divergent here and cheer for the Senators. Mostly because I want to see this fabled "true offense" in action (pokes Guy in the forehead) :D

And I like watching Lalime. Good mover. :) Though, I wouldn't care if the Flyers won either.

[hyena]

flyers....flyers....flyers (more cheering ;) )

fatigue factor my arse. what about the RUST FACTOR? the sens are going down in 7. :smoke:

[hyena]

flyers....flyers....flyers (more cheering ;) )

fatigue factor my arse. what about the RUST FACTOR? the sens are going down in 7. :smoke:

[Guyute]

yes yes... I'll take the fatigue factor over the rust factor. :D

plus, the last couple of games there were several flyers that didn't play as much as they normally would. Leclair only played a little over 5 minutes of OT in game 6. Hitch is not a dumb guy, these guys might not be Quite as tired as some would lead you to believe. ;)

I expected the Toronto series to give the flyers the most problems... and it was close. I think anyone expecting anything Close to what the Sens/Flyers matchup last year was, better keep tissues on hand. Cuz this ain't gonna be pretty. :beatup:

as for pure physicality... the sens have Chara down low. but after him they don't have a whole lot that can keep Leclair, Rex, Primeau, Brashear, Handzus, etc... OUT of the crease.
these guys are horses. they all handle the puck very well with one-hand, while holding the Dman off with the other. in most cases you can't bring them down unless you hit them from behind or trip them. Flyers will beat down the Sens D.

:beatup:

[Guyute]

yes yes... I'll take the fatigue factor over the rust factor. :D

plus, the last couple of games there were several flyers that didn't play as much as they normally would. Leclair only played a little over 5 minutes of OT in game 6. Hitch is not a dumb guy, these guys might not be Quite as tired as some would lead you to believe. ;)

I expected the Toronto series to give the flyers the most problems... and it was close. I think anyone expecting anything Close to what the Sens/Flyers matchup last year was, better keep tissues on hand. Cuz this ain't gonna be pretty. :beatup:

as for pure physicality... the sens have Chara down low. but after him they don't have a whole lot that can keep Leclair, Rex, Primeau, Brashear, Handzus, etc... OUT of the crease.
these guys are horses. they all handle the puck very well with one-hand, while holding the Dman off with the other. in most cases you can't bring them down unless you hit them from behind or trip them. Flyers will beat down the Sens D.

:beatup:

[Shell]

hopefully they have similar threats for round 2 ;)

After Hitchcock was hired, the players were give a win-or-else ultimatum. If they went out again in the first round, management promised widespread roster changes.

"I didn't want this to be my last game as a Philadelphia Flyer," captain Keith Primeau said after Game 7. "If we didn't have success, I was the guy who most probably would be moved."

[Shell]

hopefully they have similar threats for round 2 ;)

After Hitchcock was hired, the players were give a win-or-else ultimatum. If they went out again in the first round, management promised widespread roster changes.

"I didn't want this to be my last game as a Philadelphia Flyer," captain Keith Primeau said after Game 7. "If we didn't have success, I was the guy who most probably would be moved."

[Guyute]

yeah, I saw that article. :)

probably one of the only decent decisions Bobby has made in the last couple of years. flyers have a great team. they went out and got one of the best coaches in the league (imvho)... if they can't win now... it's time to look at some of your players.

management won't be happy unless they get by the Sens. and I'm sure they're making that known. ;)

[Guyute]

yeah, I saw that article. :)

probably one of the only decent decisions Bobby has made in the last couple of years. flyers have a great team. they went out and got one of the best coaches in the league (imvho)... if they can't win now... it's time to look at some of your players.

management won't be happy unless they get by the Sens. and I'm sure they're making that known. ;)

[Guyute]

lol, poor poor Tony... can't even beat Huggy in bubble hockey. :crazy:

(from the philly inquirer)
For Amonte, fun bubbles over

Most of the Flyers were taking it easy yesterday, just stopping into the team's practice facility to attend a quick meeting. It was not a day for competition and tension.

But right in the middle of the quiet afternoon, a commotion could be heard going on in one of the rooms up the hall from the locker room.

Tony Amonte was yelling something about scoring goals, and he was not talking about the number of near-misses he had against Toronto goalie Ed Belfour in Tuesday night's clinching Game 7.

It seems that Flyers locker-room maintenance manager Mike "Huggy" Crayton had just schooled Amonte in bubble hockey.

"I put two of those in myself," Amonte could be heard yelling.

When asked what had happened, Amonte explained, "Huggy's been on me to play him in bubble hockey. He beat me, 3-1. I couldn't find the net."

[Guyute]

lol, poor poor Tony... can't even beat Huggy in bubble hockey. :crazy:

(from the philly inquirer)
For Amonte, fun bubbles over

Most of the Flyers were taking it easy yesterday, just stopping into the team's practice facility to attend a quick meeting. It was not a day for competition and tension.

But right in the middle of the quiet afternoon, a commotion could be heard going on in one of the rooms up the hall from the locker room.

Tony Amonte was yelling something about scoring goals, and he was not talking about the number of near-misses he had against Toronto goalie Ed Belfour in Tuesday night's clinching Game 7.

It seems that Flyers locker-room maintenance manager Mike "Huggy" Crayton had just schooled Amonte in bubble hockey.

"I put two of those in myself," Amonte could be heard yelling.

When asked what had happened, Amonte explained, "Huggy's been on me to play him in bubble hockey. He beat me, 3-1. I couldn't find the net."

[PennsylvaniaCanesFan]

I can't see Philly pulling it out after the grueling series with the Leafs. The Leafs took them to the limit. Ottawa is well rested. My prediction is the Senators in 6.

[PennsylvaniaCanesFan]

I can't see Philly pulling it out after the grueling series with the Leafs. The Leafs took them to the limit. Ottawa is well rested. My prediction is the Senators in 6.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

And FINALLY Amonte gets that goal!! 1-0 Flyers! Woo Hoo!!!

[SouthernHockeyChick]

And FINALLY Amonte gets that goal!! 1-0 Flyers! Woo Hoo!!!

[hyena]

YES!!! amonte scores! what a great start. :D

[hyena]

YES!!! amonte scores! what a great start. :D

[Alicia]

And Kapanen w/the assist! :D

[Alicia]

And Kapanen w/the assist! :D

[Shell]

and now Sami scores with an assist from Amonte!!! :D

edited to say it was JR's assist.. but Amonte was around too ;)

[Shell]

and now Sami scores with an assist from Amonte!!! :D

edited to say it was JR's assist.. but Amonte was around too ;)

[hyena]

SAMI!!! wow, this is GREAT! :eek: :spin:

[hyena]

SAMI!!! wow, this is GREAT! :eek: :spin:

[Alicia]

Yay Sami!! 2-0 Philly

[Alicia]

Yay Sami!! 2-0 Philly

[Guyute]

think they caught the Sens still sleeping from their week off :D :spin:

keep the pressure on boys!

[Guyute]

think they caught the Sens still sleeping from their week off :D :spin:

keep the pressure on boys!

[Shell]

That was a great kill.. flyers almost seem to be toying with them with all those calm poke checks LOL.

man, that arena is dead quiet. you can hear all the skates on the ice and the players talk.

Maybe they lost their alcohol permit again.. they were the ones who lost it because a fan went into the bathroom with a beer, weren't they?

[Shell]

That was a great kill.. flyers almost seem to be toying with them with all those calm poke checks LOL.

man, that arena is dead quiet. you can hear all the skates on the ice and the players talk.

Maybe they lost their alcohol permit again.. they were the ones who lost it because a fan went into the bathroom with a beer, weren't they?

[Shell]

great period!!! Hopefully having that power play to start the second won't hurt them too much! :crazy: :angel:

[Shell]

great period!!! Hopefully having that power play to start the second won't hurt them too much! :crazy: :angel:

[Guyute]

I can't remember if that was Ottawa or not...

one of the ESPN guys (wasn't looking or listening too intently) was just making excuses for the Sens...

"The Sens always look like this in the first game, especially if they're playing at home. It's par for the course."

hmm.. so, the flyers have just gotten lucky so far? punk. :roll:

guess it wouldn't be ESPN if I wasn't pissed. lol

The Flyguys want to embarass the Sens like they embarassed us last year. I think they'll be playing their hearts out all series long. :beatup:

[Guyute]

I can't remember if that was Ottawa or not...

one of the ESPN guys (wasn't looking or listening too intently) was just making excuses for the Sens...

"The Sens always look like this in the first game, especially if they're playing at home. It's par for the course."

hmm.. so, the flyers have just gotten lucky so far? punk. :roll:

guess it wouldn't be ESPN if I wasn't pissed. lol

The Flyguys want to embarass the Sens like they embarassed us last year. I think they'll be playing their hearts out all series long. :beatup:

[Alicia]

Uh oh...not looking good...

[Alicia]

Uh oh...not looking good...

[SouthernHockeyChick]

See....the Sens have come back just cause I gave the scoring update. I'm never doing it agian....I swear! :beatup: :cry:

[SouthernHockeyChick]

See....the Sens have come back just cause I gave the scoring update. I'm never doing it agian....I swear! :beatup: :cry:

[Turbulence]

Sens really showed it to 'em in the 2nd....fun game to watch. Very lopsided.....the 3rd will be fun! I think the Sens got it rollin' right now.

You cursed'em, SHC!

[Turbulence]

Sens really showed it to 'em in the 2nd....fun game to watch. Very lopsided.....the 3rd will be fun! I think the Sens got it rollin' right now.

You cursed'em, SHC!

[SouthernHockeyChick]

You cursed'em, SHC!

I'm good at that. :evil:

[SouthernHockeyChick]

You cursed'em, SHC!

I'm good at that. :evil:

[StormShaman]

I have no dog in this fight.



















GO SENS GO!

[StormShaman]

I have no dog in this fight.



















GO SENS GO!

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Allowing that goal was the right call. Nice to see one once in a while.

Hope Lalime and Lapointe are OK. That was on nasty collision. And the best thing about that collision...none of the Sens came and tryed to jump anyone for it. It was accidental and they knew it. Way to be classy guys.

GO FLYERS!!

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Allowing that goal was the right call. Nice to see one once in a while.

Hope Lalime and Lapointe are OK. That was on nasty collision. And the best thing about that collision...none of the Sens came and tryed to jump anyone for it. It was accidental and they knew it. Way to be classy guys.

GO FLYERS!!

[Shell]

ugh, Flyers forgot to play that whole 2 and 3rd period.. Sens are fast, you won't win by trying to skate behind and keep up. Definitely hope Lalime is OK, but I am sure he'll be sore! Man, that was a Bad collision. Good point SHC, the Sens were classy about it. You can't really expect a guy to quit skating when on a breakaway because the goalie came way out of the crease. I definitely don't think it was intentional. Certainly unfortunate,,

So yeah, hope he is completely OK except maybe a lil sore on Sunday http://tridead.net/canes/images/smilies/fdevil.gif

[Shell]

ugh, Flyers forgot to play that whole 2 and 3rd period.. Sens are fast, you won't win by trying to skate behind and keep up. Definitely hope Lalime is OK, but I am sure he'll be sore! Man, that was a Bad collision. Good point SHC, the Sens were classy about it. You can't really expect a guy to quit skating when on a breakaway because the goalie came way out of the crease. I definitely don't think it was intentional. Certainly unfortunate,,

So yeah, hope he is completely OK except maybe a lil sore on Sunday http://tridead.net/canes/images/smilies/fdevil.gif

[Jeff O Rocks]

Was it just me or did it look like Philly panicked after those three quick goals?? You could just see it on their faces..especially Roenick....and the Sens were pounding Czechmonek (sp?) so hard... :eek2: :roll:

[Jeff O Rocks]

Was it just me or did it look like Philly panicked after those three quick goals?? You could just see it on their faces..especially Roenick....and the Sens were pounding Czechmonek (sp?) so hard... :eek2: :roll:

[Shell]

Cechmanek was horrible.. he didn't even look good while getting that .765 save percent! :roll:

[Shell]

Cechmanek was horrible.. he didn't even look good while getting that .765 save percent! :roll:

[Alicia]

Cechmanek was horrible.. he didn't even look good while getting that .765 save percent! :roll:

Gotta agree with you there Shell. And that Lalime collision...ugh! I too hope he'll be OK. :crazy: And WTF did Barry just say...

[Alicia]

Cechmanek was horrible.. he didn't even look good while getting that .765 save percent! :roll:

Gotta agree with you there Shell. And that Lalime collision...ugh! I too hope he'll be OK. :crazy: And WTF did Barry just say...

[hyena]

And that Lalime collision...ugh! I too hope he'll be OK. :crazy: And WTF did Barry just say...
i thought i was hearing things too -- did he just say that lalime flopped and was "giving goaltenders a bad name"? :eek: :eek: i mean, he did spin around but it looked like a pretty hard hit.

Cechmanek was horrible.. he didn't even look good while getting that .765 save percent! :roll:
that was roman's swiss cheese impersonation, don't ya know? ;)

[hyena]

And that Lalime collision...ugh! I too hope he'll be OK. :crazy: And WTF did Barry just say...
i thought i was hearing things too -- did he just say that lalime flopped and was "giving goaltenders a bad name"? :eek: :eek: i mean, he did spin around but it looked like a pretty hard hit.

Cechmanek was horrible.. he didn't even look good while getting that .765 save percent! :roll:
that was roman's swiss cheese impersonation, don't ya know? ;)

[Alicia]

[quote=batesb13fan]And that Lalime collision...ugh! I too hope he'll be OK. :crazy: And WTF did Barry just say...
i thought i was hearing things too -- did he just say that lalime flopped and was "giving goaltenders a bad name"? :eek: :eek: i mean, he did spin around but it looked like a pretty hard hit.
quote]

...and being embarrassing or an embarrassment... :roll:

[Alicia]

[quote=batesb13fan]And that Lalime collision...ugh! I too hope he'll be OK. :crazy: And WTF did Barry just say...
i thought i was hearing things too -- did he just say that lalime flopped and was "giving goaltenders a bad name"? :eek: :eek: i mean, he did spin around but it looked like a pretty hard hit.
quote]

...and being embarrassing or an embarrassment... :roll:

[Jeff O Rocks]

Barry Melrose is a total shi* face and I for one wish they would ban him from broadcasting FOREVER...he can never be objective...he is so critical of everyone that he doesn't like!! :mad: **where oh where are the emoticons from tridead???????????** :D ;)

[Jeff O Rocks]

Barry Melrose is a total shi* face and I for one wish they would ban him from broadcasting FOREVER...he can never be objective...he is so critical of everyone that he doesn't like!! :mad: **where oh where are the emoticons from tridead???????????** :D ;)

[Cool Hand Luke]

I'm not sure what coach Jacques Martin said during the 1st intermission, but I'd love to have a bottle of it. The Sens were a completely different team moving from the 1st period to the 2nd. Hope Lalime is okay. This looks to be a great series.

[Cool Hand Luke]

I'm not sure what coach Jacques Martin said during the 1st intermission, but I'd love to have a bottle of it. The Sens were a completely different team moving from the 1st period to the 2nd. Hope Lalime is okay. This looks to be a great series.

[Guyute]

think they caught the Sens still sleeping from their week off :D :spin:


err...umm.... ok, so the flyers starting napping during the 1st intermission :(

that was UGLY. Roman was nowhere to be found. could've been much worse... flyers' D cleared a LOT of pucks out from the crease, with Roman 3-4ft away. :roll:

oh well... only game 1.

[Guyute]

think they caught the Sens still sleeping from their week off :D :spin:


err...umm.... ok, so the flyers starting napping during the 1st intermission :(

that was UGLY. Roman was nowhere to be found. could've been much worse... flyers' D cleared a LOT of pucks out from the crease, with Roman 3-4ft away. :roll:

oh well... only game 1.

[Shell]

Oh Noooooo!!!

Desjardins to be out 4-6 weeks now

OTTAWA -If the loss wasn't bad enough news, Flyers coach Ken Hitchcock ended his postgame press conference with some more.

Eric Desjardins, who was expected to miss 2 to 4 weeks with a fractured bone in his right foot, will now be out 4 to 6 weeks.

Desjardins' fracture has become worse and a plate will have to be implanted to hold it together.

"His break, it moved," Hitchcock said, noting that Desjardins will be plated in Baltimore on Tuesday. "It's an unfortunate thing, but we'll have to deal with it."

Desjardins was injured in Game 5 of the Toronto series when he blocked a shot by Owen Nolan at the side of the net near the end of the game.

"I guess the break wouldn't meld and I guess the break was moving and there were going to be further problems if they don't deal with it right away," Hitchcock added.

[Shell]

Oh Noooooo!!!

Desjardins to be out 4-6 weeks now

OTTAWA -If the loss wasn't bad enough news, Flyers coach Ken Hitchcock ended his postgame press conference with some more.

Eric Desjardins, who was expected to miss 2 to 4 weeks with a fractured bone in his right foot, will now be out 4 to 6 weeks.

Desjardins' fracture has become worse and a plate will have to be implanted to hold it together.

"His break, it moved," Hitchcock said, noting that Desjardins will be plated in Baltimore on Tuesday. "It's an unfortunate thing, but we'll have to deal with it."

Desjardins was injured in Game 5 of the Toronto series when he blocked a shot by Owen Nolan at the side of the net near the end of the game.

"I guess the break wouldn't meld and I guess the break was moving and there were going to be further problems if they don't deal with it right away," Hitchcock added.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

:cry:

[SouthernHockeyChick]

:cry:

[Alicia]

Oh Noooooo!!!

Desjardins to be out 4-6 weeks now

OTTAWA -If the loss wasn't bad enough news, Flyers coach Ken Hitchcock ended his postgame press conference with some more.

Eric Desjardins, who was expected to miss 2 to 4 weeks with a fractured bone in his right foot, will now be out 4 to 6 weeks.

Desjardins' fracture has become worse and a plate will have to be implanted to hold it together.

"His break, it moved," Hitchcock said, noting that Desjardins will be plated in Baltimore on Tuesday. "It's an unfortunate thing, but we'll have to deal with it."

Desjardins was injured in Game 5 of the Toronto series when he blocked a shot by Owen Nolan at the side of the net near the end of the game.

"I guess the break wouldn't meld and I guess the break was moving and there were going to be further problems if they don't deal with it right away," Hitchcock added.

Oh no is right! :sad:

[Alicia]

Oh Noooooo!!!

Desjardins to be out 4-6 weeks now

OTTAWA -If the loss wasn't bad enough news, Flyers coach Ken Hitchcock ended his postgame press conference with some more.

Eric Desjardins, who was expected to miss 2 to 4 weeks with a fractured bone in his right foot, will now be out 4 to 6 weeks.

Desjardins' fracture has become worse and a plate will have to be implanted to hold it together.

"His break, it moved," Hitchcock said, noting that Desjardins will be plated in Baltimore on Tuesday. "It's an unfortunate thing, but we'll have to deal with it."

Desjardins was injured in Game 5 of the Toronto series when he blocked a shot by Owen Nolan at the side of the net near the end of the game.

"I guess the break wouldn't meld and I guess the break was moving and there were going to be further problems if they don't deal with it right away," Hitchcock added.

Oh no is right! :sad:

[Jeff O Rocks]

Sorry to hear that...Philly needs a boost of some sort....hopefully Roenick can do the trick!! :roll:

[Jeff O Rocks]

Sorry to hear that...Philly needs a boost of some sort....hopefully Roenick can do the trick!! :roll:

[hyena]

Desjardins to be out 4-6 weeks now

that sucks. :sad: *sigh*

[hyena]

Desjardins to be out 4-6 weeks now

that sucks. :sad: *sigh*

[Shell]

Posted on Sun, Apr. 27, 2003

Rx for LeClair: Get tough
No longer a top scorer, the Flyers left winger is being called upon to deliver checks.
By Tim Panaccio
Inquirer Staff Writer

OTTAWA -If John LeClair is ever going to find his niche in this postseason, he has to get physical.

Unless that happens, there's little chance the Flyers will be able to upend the Senators in this Eastern Conference semifinal series, which Ottawa leads, one game to none. Game 2 is set for tonight at the Corel Centre.

Eight games into the playoffs, LeClair has just one goal. Flyers coach Ken Hitchcock has been saying that LeClair needs to realize he's never going to be a 50-goal guy again. The coach says it's all about creating space.

General manager Bob Clarke has been more blunt.

"You just can't let these guys beat on you like that without beating back," Clarke said this weekend. "When he goes into the corner, guys run him as hard as they can. He's busy trying to get the puck and stuff. In my opinion, he has to start running them so they don't run you. If you can hit a guy and he doesn't hit back, you are ahead of the game."

It has never been in LeClair's character to initiate the violence.

"I think it is," LeClair countered. "Any time you are competing, you want to beat the guy next to you. I think I have to be more aggressive. Instead of taking a whack, maybe I am the one who should be initiating that whack."

LeClair played three strong games in the quarterfinals against Toronto. In the remaining four, he was invisible.

In Game 1 of this series Friday night, LeClair made several nice plays and had two shots on goal. He set up Michal Handzus perfectly in the slot for what could have been a game-tying goal in the third period, but Handzus buried the puck in goalie Patrick Lalime's glove.

"The game is a fight for space now," Hitchcock said. "And the space John got before isn't there; the defensemen are so much bigger now. When he was scoring goals, those players weren't that big."

Against Ottawa, LeClair is meeting up with 227-pound Anton Volchenkov and 6-foot-9, 260-pound Zdeno Chara. LeClair is 6-3, 225 pounds.

Defensemen are three inches taller and 15 pounds heavier on average these days than five years ago, Hitchcock said.

The adjustment LeClair needs to make, Hitchcock said, is to use his size "to wear people down" and bump guys off the puck to create space for others on his line, as well as himself.

Since 2000, injuries have robbed LeClair of his magic touch around the net. Yet when the Flyers re-signed him to a five-year, $45 million contract in 2001, they did so based on LeClair's having averaged 47 goals over a five-year span.

That's a lot to pay a grinder and checker if he's not scoring goals.

"I'm not paying him," Hitchcock quipped. Then, getting serious, the coach stated succinctly what he expects from his left winger.

"I expect him to be a hockey player," Hitchcock said. "You better grind and hit and play the body, and if you score and help us out, great. The point I am trying to make is you have to be a complete player in this league to survive and not a one-dimensional player."

Hitchcock thinks LeClair is wasting time looking for space on the ice instead of using his size and strength to create space.

"He has to deal with it," Hitchcock said, noting that LeClair also has to accept that he will not be a 50-goal scorer again because the NHL has changed.

And what does Clarke say?

"Whether he can get 50 goals or not I don't care one way or other as long as he is an impact player for us," Clarke said.

Are LeClair's scoring years behind him at age 33?

"I still have confidence I can score goals," LeClair said. "Obviously, I don't have many in the playoffs. In general, those days of scoring lots of goals are over. It's true for myself and other guys, too. It's really tougher to score now."

Clarke said LeClair has taken too much abuse by defensemen over the years, and it's time for payback.

"The defense is beating on him, and he has to beat back and create his own space," said Clarke, who added that he has had several discussions with LeClair on this topic.

When Eric Lindros was here, Clarke said, he took some of the pressure off LeClair by taking a pounding so LeClair could score. Lindros isn't around anymore.

"Now I think [LeClair] has to get more physical," Clarke said. "Go to the net and run those two guys and don't let them push you around and beat on your back."

Tonight would be a good time to begin.

"I've got to get myself some space," LeClair said.

[Shell]

Posted on Sun, Apr. 27, 2003

Rx for LeClair: Get tough
No longer a top scorer, the Flyers left winger is being called upon to deliver checks.
By Tim Panaccio
Inquirer Staff Writer

OTTAWA -If John LeClair is ever going to find his niche in this postseason, he has to get physical.

Unless that happens, there's little chance the Flyers will be able to upend the Senators in this Eastern Conference semifinal series, which Ottawa leads, one game to none. Game 2 is set for tonight at the Corel Centre.

Eight games into the playoffs, LeClair has just one goal. Flyers coach Ken Hitchcock has been saying that LeClair needs to realize he's never going to be a 50-goal guy again. The coach says it's all about creating space.

General manager Bob Clarke has been more blunt.

"You just can't let these guys beat on you like that without beating back," Clarke said this weekend. "When he goes into the corner, guys run him as hard as they can. He's busy trying to get the puck and stuff. In my opinion, he has to start running them so they don't run you. If you can hit a guy and he doesn't hit back, you are ahead of the game."

It has never been in LeClair's character to initiate the violence.

"I think it is," LeClair countered. "Any time you are competing, you want to beat the guy next to you. I think I have to be more aggressive. Instead of taking a whack, maybe I am the one who should be initiating that whack."

LeClair played three strong games in the quarterfinals against Toronto. In the remaining four, he was invisible.

In Game 1 of this series Friday night, LeClair made several nice plays and had two shots on goal. He set up Michal Handzus perfectly in the slot for what could have been a game-tying goal in the third period, but Handzus buried the puck in goalie Patrick Lalime's glove.

"The game is a fight for space now," Hitchcock said. "And the space John got before isn't there; the defensemen are so much bigger now. When he was scoring goals, those players weren't that big."

Against Ottawa, LeClair is meeting up with 227-pound Anton Volchenkov and 6-foot-9, 260-pound Zdeno Chara. LeClair is 6-3, 225 pounds.

Defensemen are three inches taller and 15 pounds heavier on average these days than five years ago, Hitchcock said.

The adjustment LeClair needs to make, Hitchcock said, is to use his size "to wear people down" and bump guys off the puck to create space for others on his line, as well as himself.

Since 2000, injuries have robbed LeClair of his magic touch around the net. Yet when the Flyers re-signed him to a five-year, $45 million contract in 2001, they did so based on LeClair's having averaged 47 goals over a five-year span.

That's a lot to pay a grinder and checker if he's not scoring goals.

"I'm not paying him," Hitchcock quipped. Then, getting serious, the coach stated succinctly what he expects from his left winger.

"I expect him to be a hockey player," Hitchcock said. "You better grind and hit and play the body, and if you score and help us out, great. The point I am trying to make is you have to be a complete player in this league to survive and not a one-dimensional player."

Hitchcock thinks LeClair is wasting time looking for space on the ice instead of using his size and strength to create space.

"He has to deal with it," Hitchcock said, noting that LeClair also has to accept that he will not be a 50-goal scorer again because the NHL has changed.

And what does Clarke say?

"Whether he can get 50 goals or not I don't care one way or other as long as he is an impact player for us," Clarke said.

Are LeClair's scoring years behind him at age 33?

"I still have confidence I can score goals," LeClair said. "Obviously, I don't have many in the playoffs. In general, those days of scoring lots of goals are over. It's true for myself and other guys, too. It's really tougher to score now."

Clarke said LeClair has taken too much abuse by defensemen over the years, and it's time for payback.

"The defense is beating on him, and he has to beat back and create his own space," said Clarke, who added that he has had several discussions with LeClair on this topic.

When Eric Lindros was here, Clarke said, he took some of the pressure off LeClair by taking a pounding so LeClair could score. Lindros isn't around anymore.

"Now I think [LeClair] has to get more physical," Clarke said. "Go to the net and run those two guys and don't let them push you around and beat on your back."

Tonight would be a good time to begin.

"I've got to get myself some space," LeClair said.

[Alicia]

Game time in about 20 minutes...can't wait! :D :beatup:

[Alicia]

Game time in about 20 minutes...can't wait! :D :beatup:

[Alicia]

I guess someone will figure out they do need to cover Gagne!

[Alicia]

I guess someone will figure out they do need to cover Gagne!

[hyena]

hee! what a play by gagne. LETS GO FLYERS!!! :D

[hyena]

hee! what a play by gagne. LETS GO FLYERS!!! :D

[SouthernHockeyChick]

I guess someone will figure out they do need to cover Gagne!

I was thinking the same thing. The longer they take to figure it out the happier I am though. :D

[SouthernHockeyChick]

I guess someone will figure out they do need to cover Gagne!

I was thinking the same thing. The longer they take to figure it out the happier I am though. :D

[Alicia]

I guess someone will figure out they do need to cover Gagne!

I was thinking the same thing. The longer they take to figure it out the happier I am though. :D

Me too! (<---see?) :D

[Alicia]

I guess someone will figure out they do need to cover Gagne!

I was thinking the same thing. The longer they take to figure it out the happier I am though. :D

Me too! (<---see?) :D

[Alicia]

Cechmanek must've eaten his Wheaties today...

[Alicia]

Cechmanek must've eaten his Wheaties today...

[hyena]

:D roman has been playing like a mad mofo so far! he needs to cut down on the rebounds though... :eek: :D

go flyers!!

[hyena]

:D roman has been playing like a mad mofo so far! he needs to cut down on the rebounds though... :eek: :D

go flyers!!

[hyena]

YESSSS! what a sweet move by recchi. 2-0, come on flyers, don't let up!!!

[hyena]

YESSSS! what a sweet move by recchi. 2-0, come on flyers, don't let up!!!

[Shell]

Woooohooooo!!!

and this time Cechmanek looked good earning the shutout.. way to make up for a bad game! Now to Philly they go!!! :D

[Shell]

Woooohooooo!!!

and this time Cechmanek looked good earning the shutout.. way to make up for a bad game! Now to Philly they go!!! :D

[Alicia]

Good to see Roman get that shutout. :cool: :smoke:

[Alicia]

Good to see Roman get that shutout. :cool: :smoke:

[hyena]

roman was awesome, he completely deserved the shutout. http://www.electrichyena.com/other/redthumb.gif crappy no-call on that dude that shouldered him, though. :mad: the flyers' PK was great, too. great game all around.

go flyers! :D

[hyena]

roman was awesome, he completely deserved the shutout. http://www.electrichyena.com/other/redthumb.gif crappy no-call on that dude that shouldered him, though. :mad: the flyers' PK was great, too. great game all around.

go flyers! :D

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Good to see Roman get that shutout. :cool: :smoke:
Especially since my hubbie, with about 7 minutes to go in the third, said "Gee, the Sens are gonna let Cechmanek shut them out." :roll: He really needs to re-examine where his loyalties lie (ie...I think he is pulling for the Sens....traitor! ;) ).


Way to go Flyers! 3 more of those, please.


Love the new av hyena!

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Good to see Roman get that shutout. :cool: :smoke:
Especially since my hubbie, with about 7 minutes to go in the third, said "Gee, the Sens are gonna let Cechmanek shut them out." :roll: He really needs to re-examine where his loyalties lie (ie...I think he is pulling for the Sens....traitor! ;) ).


Way to go Flyers! 3 more of those, please.


Love the new av hyena!

[Shell]

Enjoyed this interview, they just posted it today but it is from a couple days ago before the series started..

Q&A WITH JEREMY ROENICK
Just put a microphone in front of Jeremy Roenick and it's a safe bet you'll walk away with something interesting to write about. That's just the Philadelphia Flyers' star's way. Who better to go in your face with than JR, as the Sun's Don Brennan Found out in their chat.

By DON BRENNAN, Ottawa Sun

HE HAS played 1,062 NHL games, has scored 1,073 points, amassed 1,283 penalty minutes and makes $8 million (US) per season.

One more fact you might want to know about the top scorer on the Philadelphia Flyers -- early yesterday, he passed along a message that he would call an Ottawa sportswriter at 3 p.m. And it was exactly 3 p.m. -- not 2:59 or 3:01 -- when the phone rang.

Today, we're In Your Face with ... Jeremy Roenick.

IYF: Some quick word association ... Bobby Clarke?

JR: A total professional.

IYF: Karel Rachunek?

JR: Talented, tough.

IYF: Vaclav Varada?

JR: Phoney.

IYF: Can we expand on that one?

JR: Nope.

IYF: Daniel Alfredsson?

JR: Tremendously talented, and gritty.

IYF: Tie Domi?

JR: Ultimate competitor.

IYF: Darcy Tucker?

JR: Pain in the ass. A guy you want on your team for sure.

IYF: Gary Bettman?

JR: Stubborn.

IYF: Do you think there's going to be a shutdown in 2004?

JR: I hope not. Do I think there will be? I think there's a possibility. I think there's a lot of money out there that needs to be accounted for ... and it's going to be interesting how they deal with it all.

IYF: What was your favourite hangout away from the rink when you played in Hull (1988-89)?

JR: As a bar, a lot of us hung out at a place called the Shalomar everyday. It was a pretty good spot. I went to look for it about two or three years ago. I think it's gone now.

IYF: As an American, what are your thoughts on the war?

JR: Well, one thing, I'm glad that it's winding down. That it's not as intense as it was a month ago. I really feel that what we did was very important for the security of our country. To allow people to generate weapons of mass destruction, and to have that kind of hatred for our country is very dangerous.

IYF: What about Jean Chretien's decision not to join the U.S. in combat?

JR: Everybody has their reasons ... but I feel being such a close neighbour of ours and for all our country does for Canada and Canada does for our country ... it would have been nice to have a little bit more support. But again, it's a very sticky situation and a tough decision, whether to sacrifice other lives for the cause, and obviously (he) didn't feel it was the right thing to do. You just hope that down the line, it doesn't come back to haunt them in some way.

IYF: What were you and Tucker saying to each other in that pre-game warmup?

JR: It was Easter. He asked what the Easter Bunny was going to bring me. I told him I love those marshmallow bunnies.

IYF: How would you rate the Ottawa fans?

JR: I'd say subdued. They get loud, obviously, it's playoff time, and they're going to get loud now. I mean, it's easy to get loud when it's the playoffs, and things are energetic. But not to have a sellout in the first game of the second round is just too bad. I think people are missing an opportunity to see some great hockey.

IYF: Who has the loudest fans?

JR: Minnesota has some tremendously loud fans, and Philly's fans are really loud when they get going.

IYF: How long do you plan on playing?

JR: I'm thinking until I'm like 37, 38. I'd like to play another five years.

IYF: What will you do when you're done?

JR: I'd like to remain in the game somehow. Maybe get behind the camera and do things. I'm not going to go into the minors to become a coach. I'm not into that. But something with the camera, maybe doing some analyzing or have my own show. I'd like to report on sports.

IYF: What would you be doing if you weren't an NHLer?

JR: I'd like to think I'd be playing another sport. Like golf or football, or something like that.

IYF: How long did your football career last?

JR: I played in high school. I was a kicker. They wouldn't let me do anything else ... didn't want me to get hurt for hockey season.

IYF: What was your longest field goal?

JR: In a game, 38 yards. In practice, I hit one from midfield. But in practice there's no pressure. So that's easy.

IYF: What was your first job?

JR: At a Mobil (gas) station. I worked the cash register.

IYF: Was your entire childhood spent in Boston?

JR: Most of it, but I lived in Connecticut and New York also.

IYF: What's your most extravagant possession?

JR: I'd say my house and my cars. I have a TurboPorsche, and my house in Phoenix is a nice place to hang out, for sure.

IYF: What's the house like?

JR: Well, I have a 2,500-square foot putting green in the back. I also have a steam bath in the back, about 9,000 square feet. Plus a pool, and all the trimmings. It's Arizona, right, so there's a lot of palm trees and cactuses around.

IYF: Name one thing you own too much of?

JR: I probably have too many suits, to tell you the truth. I probably have about 40-45 suits.

IYF: Your worst habit?

JR: I'm messy and I have a bad memory.

IYF: Your best trait?

JR: When I trust somebody and I'm friends with somebody, I'm very loyal to them.

IYF: What's right with today's NHL?

JR: The talent pool. The parity in the league. Every team is capable of being beat, from one day to the next.

IYF: What's wrong with the game?

JR: There's not enough exposure. There are too many teams that are struggling, and I think the financial differences between players and management have to decrease a little.

IYF: You get more interview requests than others players ...

JR: Twice as many.

IYF: You're known as a guy that's not afraid to say what's on his mind ...

JR: That's very accurate.

IYF: Has that got you in a lot of trouble?

JR: I have definitely flapped my mouth when I probably should have kept it closed. But that's got to me where I am ... being able to play my game and being able to talk. I wouldn't speak my mind if I couldn't go out and back it up.

IYF: What's the worst trouble you were in as a kid?

JR: I got caught cheating on a math test in Grade 9, I think, and I got in big trouble.

IYF: Who's the first Ottawa Senator you'd add to your team?

JR: Probably Zdeno Chara. Not just the obvious reasons ... I think he's a tremendous person, a better guy than he is a hockey player. To me, that's a better compliment. I met him at the all-star break, and I was very impressed with how friendly he was and how much he appreciated being in the league.

IYF: Who's your most famous friend outside of hockey?

JR: Michael Jordan. We're very close.

IYF: Who's your idol?

JR: Right now, I'd say it's President Bush. I love the way he's been running our country for the last three years.

IYF: Favourite meal?

JR: A Cajun rib-eye at Morton's (Steakhouse).

IYF: Favourite band?

JR: I'll go with Linkin Park.

IYF: Last concert you attended?

JR: I saw Cher last summer. It was interesting, to say the least. And I went to see Elton John and Billy Joel a couple of times ... they're just awesome.

IYF: Favourite TV show?

JR: Fear Factor.

IYF: Favourite movie?

JR: Probably Forrest Gump.

IYF: The last book you read?

JR: I'm in the middle of RedDragon now.

IYF: Predictions for Round 2 (asked before yesterday's results)?

JR: I think Dallas will come back and beat Anaheim, Vancouver will beat Minnesota, and Jersey will beat Tampa.

IYF: How long will this one last?

JR: As long as it takes for us to win ... hopefully.

[Shell]

Enjoyed this interview, they just posted it today but it is from a couple days ago before the series started..

Q&A WITH JEREMY ROENICK
Just put a microphone in front of Jeremy Roenick and it's a safe bet you'll walk away with something interesting to write about. That's just the Philadelphia Flyers' star's way. Who better to go in your face with than JR, as the Sun's Don Brennan Found out in their chat.

By DON BRENNAN, Ottawa Sun

HE HAS played 1,062 NHL games, has scored 1,073 points, amassed 1,283 penalty minutes and makes $8 million (US) per season.

One more fact you might want to know about the top scorer on the Philadelphia Flyers -- early yesterday, he passed along a message that he would call an Ottawa sportswriter at 3 p.m. And it was exactly 3 p.m. -- not 2:59 or 3:01 -- when the phone rang.

Today, we're In Your Face with ... Jeremy Roenick.

IYF: Some quick word association ... Bobby Clarke?

JR: A total professional.

IYF: Karel Rachunek?

JR: Talented, tough.

IYF: Vaclav Varada?

JR: Phoney.

IYF: Can we expand on that one?

JR: Nope.

IYF: Daniel Alfredsson?

JR: Tremendously talented, and gritty.

IYF: Tie Domi?

JR: Ultimate competitor.

IYF: Darcy Tucker?

JR: Pain in the ass. A guy you want on your team for sure.

IYF: Gary Bettman?

JR: Stubborn.

IYF: Do you think there's going to be a shutdown in 2004?

JR: I hope not. Do I think there will be? I think there's a possibility. I think there's a lot of money out there that needs to be accounted for ... and it's going to be interesting how they deal with it all.

IYF: What was your favourite hangout away from the rink when you played in Hull (1988-89)?

JR: As a bar, a lot of us hung out at a place called the Shalomar everyday. It was a pretty good spot. I went to look for it about two or three years ago. I think it's gone now.

IYF: As an American, what are your thoughts on the war?

JR: Well, one thing, I'm glad that it's winding down. That it's not as intense as it was a month ago. I really feel that what we did was very important for the security of our country. To allow people to generate weapons of mass destruction, and to have that kind of hatred for our country is very dangerous.

IYF: What about Jean Chretien's decision not to join the U.S. in combat?

JR: Everybody has their reasons ... but I feel being such a close neighbour of ours and for all our country does for Canada and Canada does for our country ... it would have been nice to have a little bit more support. But again, it's a very sticky situation and a tough decision, whether to sacrifice other lives for the cause, and obviously (he) didn't feel it was the right thing to do. You just hope that down the line, it doesn't come back to haunt them in some way.

IYF: What were you and Tucker saying to each other in that pre-game warmup?

JR: It was Easter. He asked what the Easter Bunny was going to bring me. I told him I love those marshmallow bunnies.

IYF: How would you rate the Ottawa fans?

JR: I'd say subdued. They get loud, obviously, it's playoff time, and they're going to get loud now. I mean, it's easy to get loud when it's the playoffs, and things are energetic. But not to have a sellout in the first game of the second round is just too bad. I think people are missing an opportunity to see some great hockey.

IYF: Who has the loudest fans?

JR: Minnesota has some tremendously loud fans, and Philly's fans are really loud when they get going.

IYF: How long do you plan on playing?

JR: I'm thinking until I'm like 37, 38. I'd like to play another five years.

IYF: What will you do when you're done?

JR: I'd like to remain in the game somehow. Maybe get behind the camera and do things. I'm not going to go into the minors to become a coach. I'm not into that. But something with the camera, maybe doing some analyzing or have my own show. I'd like to report on sports.

IYF: What would you be doing if you weren't an NHLer?

JR: I'd like to think I'd be playing another sport. Like golf or football, or something like that.

IYF: How long did your football career last?

JR: I played in high school. I was a kicker. They wouldn't let me do anything else ... didn't want me to get hurt for hockey season.

IYF: What was your longest field goal?

JR: In a game, 38 yards. In practice, I hit one from midfield. But in practice there's no pressure. So that's easy.

IYF: What was your first job?

JR: At a Mobil (gas) station. I worked the cash register.

IYF: Was your entire childhood spent in Boston?

JR: Most of it, but I lived in Connecticut and New York also.

IYF: What's your most extravagant possession?

JR: I'd say my house and my cars. I have a TurboPorsche, and my house in Phoenix is a nice place to hang out, for sure.

IYF: What's the house like?

JR: Well, I have a 2,500-square foot putting green in the back. I also have a steam bath in the back, about 9,000 square feet. Plus a pool, and all the trimmings. It's Arizona, right, so there's a lot of palm trees and cactuses around.

IYF: Name one thing you own too much of?

JR: I probably have too many suits, to tell you the truth. I probably have about 40-45 suits.

IYF: Your worst habit?

JR: I'm messy and I have a bad memory.

IYF: Your best trait?

JR: When I trust somebody and I'm friends with somebody, I'm very loyal to them.

IYF: What's right with today's NHL?

JR: The talent pool. The parity in the league. Every team is capable of being beat, from one day to the next.

IYF: What's wrong with the game?

JR: There's not enough exposure. There are too many teams that are struggling, and I think the financial differences between players and management have to decrease a little.

IYF: You get more interview requests than others players ...

JR: Twice as many.

IYF: You're known as a guy that's not afraid to say what's on his mind ...

JR: That's very accurate.

IYF: Has that got you in a lot of trouble?

JR: I have definitely flapped my mouth when I probably should have kept it closed. But that's got to me where I am ... being able to play my game and being able to talk. I wouldn't speak my mind if I couldn't go out and back it up.

IYF: What's the worst trouble you were in as a kid?

JR: I got caught cheating on a math test in Grade 9, I think, and I got in big trouble.

IYF: Who's the first Ottawa Senator you'd add to your team?

JR: Probably Zdeno Chara. Not just the obvious reasons ... I think he's a tremendous person, a better guy than he is a hockey player. To me, that's a better compliment. I met him at the all-star break, and I was very impressed with how friendly he was and how much he appreciated being in the league.

IYF: Who's your most famous friend outside of hockey?

JR: Michael Jordan. We're very close.

IYF: Who's your idol?

JR: Right now, I'd say it's President Bush. I love the way he's been running our country for the last three years.

IYF: Favourite meal?

JR: A Cajun rib-eye at Morton's (Steakhouse).

IYF: Favourite band?

JR: I'll go with Linkin Park.

IYF: Last concert you attended?

JR: I saw Cher last summer. It was interesting, to say the least. And I went to see Elton John and Billy Joel a couple of times ... they're just awesome.

IYF: Favourite TV show?

JR: Fear Factor.

IYF: Favourite movie?

JR: Probably Forrest Gump.

IYF: The last book you read?

JR: I'm in the middle of RedDragon now.

IYF: Predictions for Round 2 (asked before yesterday's results)?

JR: I think Dallas will come back and beat Anaheim, Vancouver will beat Minnesota, and Jersey will beat Tampa.

IYF: How long will this one last?

JR: As long as it takes for us to win ... hopefully.

[Alicia]

I really do like Jeremy...he's a definite trip!

[Alicia]

I really do like Jeremy...he's a definite trip!

[nccanes]

IYF: What will you do when you're done?

JR: I'd like to remain in the game somehow. Maybe get behind the camera and do things.

Wow, he wants to be a cameraman? How unusual!? ;)

[nccanes]

IYF: What will you do when you're done?

JR: I'd like to remain in the game somehow. Maybe get behind the camera and do things.

Wow, he wants to be a cameraman? How unusual!? ;)

[Guyute]

my hubbie, with about 7 minutes to go in the third, said "Gee, the Sens are gonna let Cechmanek shut them out." :roll: He really needs to re-examine where his loyalties lie (ie...I think he is pulling for the Sens....traitor! ;) ).


I'm having to re-examine our invites to your hubby being allowed in our house for games. ;) hehe

bum.

Great interview with JR, thanks for posting. I know there's a lot of dislike out there for that man, but I love him. He's entertainment at it's finest. Now if they'd just peel that C of of Preems' chest and put it on JR...

three stars for Roman, what a game!!! way to makeup for a bad one dude. back to philly... where Roman has been twice the 'tender he has on the road. ohhhhhh yeahhhhhh. :beatup:

[Guyute]

my hubbie, with about 7 minutes to go in the third, said "Gee, the Sens are gonna let Cechmanek shut them out." :roll: He really needs to re-examine where his loyalties lie (ie...I think he is pulling for the Sens....traitor! ;) ).


I'm having to re-examine our invites to your hubby being allowed in our house for games. ;) hehe

bum.

Great interview with JR, thanks for posting. I know there's a lot of dislike out there for that man, but I love him. He's entertainment at it's finest. Now if they'd just peel that C of of Preems' chest and put it on JR...

three stars for Roman, what a game!!! way to makeup for a bad one dude. back to philly... where Roman has been twice the 'tender he has on the road. ohhhhhh yeahhhhhh. :beatup:

[Shell]

Monday, April 28, 2003
CECH MATE, SENS
Goalie pulls out all the stops as Hitchcock true to his word

By MIKE ULMER, IN OTTAWA

Twenty-four hours after mapping out how he would bring the Philadelphia Flyers back, coach Ken Hitchcock did just that.

"Dammit, Mike, you wrote us off after one game," he said Saturday, in the wake of the Flyers 4-2 loss in the first game of the Eastern Conference semi-finals.

"Hitch, far lesser men than you have proven me wrong."

"Well, I'm going to."

And he did. He proved everyone who thought the Flyers had left their game in the first round dead wrong as Philadelphia jetted home on the wings of a 2-0 victory last night.

And then he threw in a little playoff theatre designed to move the story line along, past the obvious one about his team being tired and beaten up.

The Ottawa Senators are dirty. Kim Johnsson took a 25-stich cut over his right eye, the result of careless use of the stick by Martin Havlat.

"Yeah, I'm p----d off," Hitchock said following the game. "Four of our players got cut."

Then he delivered the sound byte.

"We'll see what happens. It should be an interesting series, a very interesting series."

The threat of retribution hung in the air, right alongside the smell of sweat and fresh pizza.

It was wonderful.

It wasn't that the Flyers were better than the Senators. They weren't.

They don't have to be better. They have to be good enough.

Jeremy Roenick obviously is hurt. John LeClair can't put the puck in the ocean. Tony Amonte is terrible.

The most important figure on the Flyers payroll makes only $1.2 million US a year. He is Ken Hitchcock.

"Know when you are in a position to make a play and when to put the puck in a safe place," Hitchcock said Saturday. "It takes years to learn that."

It has taken the Flyers only a year.

Roman Cechmanek, Hitchcock said, was overanxious in Game 1. He would be better in Game 2.

Cechmanek stopped all 33 shots he faced last night, 10 more than Senators goalie Patrick Lalime.

"I said I could play better," Cechmanek said, "and I did."

The Flyers blew a 2-0 lead in Game 1 only to surrender a fluke goal that changed the course of the game. "We didn't build minutes onto that lead," Hitchcock said.

"Hitch calls it building the house," Flyers forward Mark Recchi said last night. "Play with the lead, keep getting the puck deep. Keep doing the right thing."

They did yesterday. Shift after shift. Some were shaky, most were uneventful. Know when to make a play, and when to put the puck in a safe spot.

The Flyers' first goal came seven minutes into the contest when Simon Gagne skated out of the corner and slid a low shot past Lalime.

Philadelphia was a completely different team after the goal, as patient as a python on its prey.

Game 1 stars Havlat and Marian Hossa and their breakaway speed were completely muted.

Put the puck where it will harm no one. Impede. Slow this marvelous game, trap, counter-attack. If you do it right, and the Flyers did last night, one goal is all you need.

With seven minutes left in the game, the Flyers broke out, Wade Redden missed a check and Recchi scored the insurance marker.

And then Hitchcock played the Senators-are-dirty card and today no one will be talking about how the Flyers, not the Senators, are master obstructionists.

The crowd at the First Union Centre will be frenzied for Game 3 tomorrow. The media will have its off-day story and the Senators, well, they will wonder what they are in for during the next two games in Philly.

We met on the way out.

"You're playing with us, Hitch. You're adding controversy to distract us from what's really going on."

Hitchock didn't even break stride.

"Nah," he said. "I'm not that smart."

[Shell]

Monday, April 28, 2003
CECH MATE, SENS
Goalie pulls out all the stops as Hitchcock true to his word

By MIKE ULMER, IN OTTAWA

Twenty-four hours after mapping out how he would bring the Philadelphia Flyers back, coach Ken Hitchcock did just that.

"Dammit, Mike, you wrote us off after one game," he said Saturday, in the wake of the Flyers 4-2 loss in the first game of the Eastern Conference semi-finals.

"Hitch, far lesser men than you have proven me wrong."

"Well, I'm going to."

And he did. He proved everyone who thought the Flyers had left their game in the first round dead wrong as Philadelphia jetted home on the wings of a 2-0 victory last night.

And then he threw in a little playoff theatre designed to move the story line along, past the obvious one about his team being tired and beaten up.

The Ottawa Senators are dirty. Kim Johnsson took a 25-stich cut over his right eye, the result of careless use of the stick by Martin Havlat.

"Yeah, I'm p----d off," Hitchock said following the game. "Four of our players got cut."

Then he delivered the sound byte.

"We'll see what happens. It should be an interesting series, a very interesting series."

The threat of retribution hung in the air, right alongside the smell of sweat and fresh pizza.

It was wonderful.

It wasn't that the Flyers were better than the Senators. They weren't.

They don't have to be better. They have to be good enough.

Jeremy Roenick obviously is hurt. John LeClair can't put the puck in the ocean. Tony Amonte is terrible.

The most important figure on the Flyers payroll makes only $1.2 million US a year. He is Ken Hitchcock.

"Know when you are in a position to make a play and when to put the puck in a safe place," Hitchcock said Saturday. "It takes years to learn that."

It has taken the Flyers only a year.

Roman Cechmanek, Hitchcock said, was overanxious in Game 1. He would be better in Game 2.

Cechmanek stopped all 33 shots he faced last night, 10 more than Senators goalie Patrick Lalime.

"I said I could play better," Cechmanek said, "and I did."

The Flyers blew a 2-0 lead in Game 1 only to surrender a fluke goal that changed the course of the game. "We didn't build minutes onto that lead," Hitchcock said.

"Hitch calls it building the house," Flyers forward Mark Recchi said last night. "Play with the lead, keep getting the puck deep. Keep doing the right thing."

They did yesterday. Shift after shift. Some were shaky, most were uneventful. Know when to make a play, and when to put the puck in a safe spot.

The Flyers' first goal came seven minutes into the contest when Simon Gagne skated out of the corner and slid a low shot past Lalime.

Philadelphia was a completely different team after the goal, as patient as a python on its prey.

Game 1 stars Havlat and Marian Hossa and their breakaway speed were completely muted.

Put the puck where it will harm no one. Impede. Slow this marvelous game, trap, counter-attack. If you do it right, and the Flyers did last night, one goal is all you need.

With seven minutes left in the game, the Flyers broke out, Wade Redden missed a check and Recchi scored the insurance marker.

And then Hitchcock played the Senators-are-dirty card and today no one will be talking about how the Flyers, not the Senators, are master obstructionists.

The crowd at the First Union Centre will be frenzied for Game 3 tomorrow. The media will have its off-day story and the Senators, well, they will wonder what they are in for during the next two games in Philly.

We met on the way out.

"You're playing with us, Hitch. You're adding controversy to distract us from what's really going on."

Hitchock didn't even break stride.

"Nah," he said. "I'm not that smart."

[Canesluver]

I think Roenick'd be a kick doing color commentary.
I could see that happening.

[Canesluver]

I think Roenick'd be a kick doing color commentary.
I could see that happening.

[SouthernCaniac]

cracks me up. I have hated him quite often, but i always end up laughing in the end. It appears he really is a good guy to those he cares about. Aahhh, but in the end, right when im liking him, he goes and says something like "bush is my hero" ! No offense to Bush lovers on here, its all in good fun:)

[SouthernCaniac]

cracks me up. I have hated him quite often, but i always end up laughing in the end. It appears he really is a good guy to those he cares about. Aahhh, but in the end, right when im liking him, he goes and says something like "bush is my hero" ! No offense to Bush lovers on here, its all in good fun:)

[Guyute]

I think the flyers have amassed more stitches in these 2 games then all 7 of the toronto series. yet only 2 of them have been called.

and I'll tell ya what... when the game was coming to a close, as I sat there grinning like a madman... and the sens players started wanting to play rough... I laughed.

and said "HELL yeah... let's turn this series into a checking one, instead of a speed one.... and then we'll see how you guys (sens that is) end up."

real bright. :roll:
if the sens can't use their speed, they can NOT win this series. period. end of story.

so sure... spend your time picking fights. we'll take the series.

PS- feau paux of the game--- Redden's missed hip-check to spring Johnny down the left wing. BEAUTY!!! thanks Wade! :p

[Guyute]

I think the flyers have amassed more stitches in these 2 games then all 7 of the toronto series. yet only 2 of them have been called.

and I'll tell ya what... when the game was coming to a close, as I sat there grinning like a madman... and the sens players started wanting to play rough... I laughed.

and said "HELL yeah... let's turn this series into a checking one, instead of a speed one.... and then we'll see how you guys (sens that is) end up."

real bright. :roll:
if the sens can't use their speed, they can NOT win this series. period. end of story.

so sure... spend your time picking fights. we'll take the series.

PS- feau paux of the game--- Redden's missed hip-check to spring Johnny down the left wing. BEAUTY!!! thanks Wade! :p

[folgersnyourcup]

I'm not pulling for the Flyers but was glad to see Cechmanek have a great game after what happened in game one. If he had played like he did in game 2 the Flyers might be looking at a 2 games to none series lead! Game 3 should be very good.

[folgersnyourcup]

I'm not pulling for the Flyers but was glad to see Cechmanek have a great game after what happened in game one. If he had played like he did in game 2 the Flyers might be looking at a 2 games to none series lead! Game 3 should be very good.

[hyena]

thanx for posting that interview, Shell. i like roenick a lot.

I think Roenick'd be a kick doing color commentary.
I could see that happening.
color? heck, what about nhl2night? could you imagine him sitting next to barry, competing for camera time? lol. i'd almost pay money to see that! :D

i cannot *wait* for game 3. if the sens want to play physical, they will get their butts handed to them. i wonder if philly'll be getting the home-cooking from the refs the way ottawa has the first two games... :roll:

[hyena]

thanx for posting that interview, Shell. i like roenick a lot.

I think Roenick'd be a kick doing color commentary.
I could see that happening.
color? heck, what about nhl2night? could you imagine him sitting next to barry, competing for camera time? lol. i'd almost pay money to see that! :D

i cannot *wait* for game 3. if the sens want to play physical, they will get their butts handed to them. i wonder if philly'll be getting the home-cooking from the refs the way ottawa has the first two games... :roll:

[Guyute]

from an inquirer article:

So wear your Dave Schultz throwback jersey for Game 3. This series, tied at one game each thanks to a brilliant performance by Flyers goalie Roman Cechmanek, is going into hyperdrive.

It started, Hitchcock said, early in Game 2. Flyers captain Keith Primeau got cut in the face on his first shift. In all, Hitchcock said, four Flyers required stitches during the game. The most serious, and the one that prompted the coach's outburst, was a gash above defenseman Kim Johnsson's right eye.

It happened with about five minutes left in the second period. Ottawa winger Martin Havlat caught Johnsson with his stick.

"It should have been a five-minute major," Hitchcock said. "Our team saw Kim in the locker room. After that, we were mad, and we play better when we're mad."

that (playing better when pissed off) is most definitely the truth.

from another article:

The officiating by referees Paul Devorski and Stephen Walkom was consistently poor. Four Flyers were cut with high sticks and either no penalty was called or it was a minor call. At least a half-dozen obstruction calls were missed as the Senators refused to allow the first forechecker into the zone over the blue line.

Between periods, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman told reporters that the state of officiating was fine. Apparently, he didn't watch the opening period.

"I think this officiating is consistent with where we settled in November and December," Bettman said. "We've made great strides in forecheck interference and obstruction. Is it perfect? No. But it is much, much better than it was last year, and we will continue to build on it over the summer with some adjustments."

granted, the flyers got away with some calls too... this is a philly paper remember. lol. but, Bettman saying everything is just fine is a bleeping travesty.
officiating in ALL playoff games has been atrocious. :roll:

Four Flyers were cut by sticks, he said, including Keith Primeau and Kim Johnsson, and Cechmanek was run by Magnus Arvedson. None of the infractions was called.

Yet every time a Senator went down, it seemed, a black-and-white-striped arm went up. The power plays were 6-3 in favor of Ottawa.

Hitchcock was so steamed after the game that he said it was time to play more physical and said, "I think it's time for [Todd] Fedoruk to play in the series.''

ahhhh... Brash and Fedoruk... bring it on sens. lol. :beatup: :D

oh yes.... I'm getting SICK of all the goalie interference calls going against the flyers, and Roman is getting ran just as much. Flyers have had 2 calls (of interference) go for them in the playoffs so far. They've had 7 (I believe) go against them. For Roman to have one foot in his crease, and take a shoulder to the head is inexcuseable, imo.

[Guyute]

from an inquirer article:

So wear your Dave Schultz throwback jersey for Game 3. This series, tied at one game each thanks to a brilliant performance by Flyers goalie Roman Cechmanek, is going into hyperdrive.

It started, Hitchcock said, early in Game 2. Flyers captain Keith Primeau got cut in the face on his first shift. In all, Hitchcock said, four Flyers required stitches during the game. The most serious, and the one that prompted the coach's outburst, was a gash above defenseman Kim Johnsson's right eye.

It happened with about five minutes left in the second period. Ottawa winger Martin Havlat caught Johnsson with his stick.

"It should have been a five-minute major," Hitchcock said. "Our team saw Kim in the locker room. After that, we were mad, and we play better when we're mad."

that (playing better when pissed off) is most definitely the truth.

from another article:

The officiating by referees Paul Devorski and Stephen Walkom was consistently poor. Four Flyers were cut with high sticks and either no penalty was called or it was a minor call. At least a half-dozen obstruction calls were missed as the Senators refused to allow the first forechecker into the zone over the blue line.

Between periods, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman told reporters that the state of officiating was fine. Apparently, he didn't watch the opening period.

"I think this officiating is consistent with where we settled in November and December," Bettman said. "We've made great strides in forecheck interference and obstruction. Is it perfect? No. But it is much, much better than it was last year, and we will continue to build on it over the summer with some adjustments."

granted, the flyers got away with some calls too... this is a philly paper remember. lol. but, Bettman saying everything is just fine is a bleeping travesty.
officiating in ALL playoff games has been atrocious. :roll:

Four Flyers were cut by sticks, he said, including Keith Primeau and Kim Johnsson, and Cechmanek was run by Magnus Arvedson. None of the infractions was called.

Yet every time a Senator went down, it seemed, a black-and-white-striped arm went up. The power plays were 6-3 in favor of Ottawa.

Hitchcock was so steamed after the game that he said it was time to play more physical and said, "I think it's time for [Todd] Fedoruk to play in the series.''

ahhhh... Brash and Fedoruk... bring it on sens. lol. :beatup: :D

oh yes.... I'm getting SICK of all the goalie interference calls going against the flyers, and Roman is getting ran just as much. Flyers have had 2 calls (of interference) go for them in the playoffs so far. They've had 7 (I believe) go against them. For Roman to have one foot in his crease, and take a shoulder to the head is inexcuseable, imo.

[hyena]

oh yes.... I'm getting SICK of all the goalie interference calls going against the flyers, and Roman is getting ran just as much. Flyers have had 2 calls (of interference) go for them in the playoffs so far. They've had 7 (I believe) go against them. For Roman to have one foot in his crease, and take a shoulder to the head is inexcuseable, imo.
thanks for those numbers -- i was going to say something about this last night but i was sure i was just biased. ;) i was *so* pissed when he got ran over and there was no call. it seems like he is getting a bad rap while certain other goalies get breathed on too hard and draw a penalty. :roll:

[hyena]

oh yes.... I'm getting SICK of all the goalie interference calls going against the flyers, and Roman is getting ran just as much. Flyers have had 2 calls (of interference) go for them in the playoffs so far. They've had 7 (I believe) go against them. For Roman to have one foot in his crease, and take a shoulder to the head is inexcuseable, imo.
thanks for those numbers -- i was going to say something about this last night but i was sure i was just biased. ;) i was *so* pissed when he got ran over and there was no call. it seems like he is getting a bad rap while certain other goalies get breathed on too hard and draw a penalty. :roll:

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Complete aggreeance on the goaltender interference. One of the ESPN guys last night mentioned that Cechmanek's helmet comes off really easy....maybe it's cause he's getting beat all to hell and it isn't getting called!!! OK, so it seems a little loose too but you get my point. ;)

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Complete aggreeance on the goaltender interference. One of the ESPN guys last night mentioned that Cechmanek's helmet comes off really easy....maybe it's cause he's getting beat all to hell and it isn't getting called!!! OK, so it seems a little loose too but you get my point. ;)

[nccanes]

This photo makes me laugh.... 'cept for poor Lalime in the background...like him.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20030428/mdf265445.jpg

[nccanes]

This photo makes me laugh.... 'cept for poor Lalime in the background...like him.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20030428/mdf265445.jpg

[Jeff O Rocks]

....maybe it's cause he's getting beat all to hell and it isn't getting called!!! OK, so it seems a little loose too but you get my point. ;)

I love ya man...you are too funny... :D

and has anyone noticed how Roenick looks very mischevious at times...during the game and sitting on the bench??? I bet he is a funny guy..(of course I see NO humor in him when he is playing our Canes.. ;) )

[Jeff O Rocks]

....maybe it's cause he's getting beat all to hell and it isn't getting called!!! OK, so it seems a little loose too but you get my point. ;)

I love ya man...you are too funny... :D

and has anyone noticed how Roenick looks very mischevious at times...during the game and sitting on the bench??? I bet he is a funny guy..(of course I see NO humor in him when he is playing our Canes.. ;) )

[nccanes]

popular shot - different angle..

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030427/capt.1051496298flyers_senators_otth115.jpg

[nccanes]

popular shot - different angle..

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030427/capt.1051496298flyers_senators_otth115.jpg

[Guyute]

http://images.comcast-spectacor.com/flyers/slideShows/4938.JPG

why does everyone say Roman has no style? sheeeeesh! :D

[Guyute]

http://images.comcast-spectacor.com/flyers/slideShows/4938.JPG

why does everyone say Roman has no style? sheeeeesh! :D

[crazy4canes]

floppy goalie

why does everyone say Roman has no style? sheeeeesh! :D

Dunno, guyute. Go figure. http://www.websmileys.de/conf10.gif


:beatup:

[crazy4canes]

floppy goalie

why does everyone say Roman has no style? sheeeeesh! :D

Dunno, guyute. Go figure. http://www.websmileys.de/conf10.gif


:beatup:

[Alicia]

That's got style written all over it, guyute! :D

[Alicia]

That's got style written all over it, guyute! :D

[Jeff O Rocks]

why does everyone say Roman has no style? sheeeeesh! :D

He gives new meaning to the term "filling up the net" :D I am amazed that he could avoid knocking down little Sami with those big pads!

[Jeff O Rocks]

why does everyone say Roman has no style? sheeeeesh! :D

He gives new meaning to the term "filling up the net" :D I am amazed that he could avoid knocking down little Sami with those big pads!

[RIO]

Super picture, Guy! :D Roman flops on the puck very poetically. lol ;)


Roman: "And now! NOW I shall do my imitation of a one-eyebrowed ice angel!" *flap flap flap*

Sami: *coloring* "Dude.... not HERE....."

[RIO]

Super picture, Guy! :D Roman flops on the puck very poetically. lol ;)


Roman: "And now! NOW I shall do my imitation of a one-eyebrowed ice angel!" *flap flap flap*

Sami: *coloring* "Dude.... not HERE....."

[Guyute]

going out to the store tonight to get some orange and black war-paint... cuz tonight is the night this turns into a BATTLE. and boy was this the wrong move for the Sens. :roll:

anyone catch the JR interview during one of the intermissions last night? (forget which game)

Saunders asked him if the players were as pissed as Hitch was about the 'dirty' play of the Sens. JR responded with.... well, we watched a lot of film today of the last game, and noticed a Lot of things that you don't see, as players, on the ice. A lot of little stickwork from the Havlats and Hossas... that None of the guys were very happy with. We're going to battle.

that's not word for word, but it's very damn close.

[Guyute]

going out to the store tonight to get some orange and black war-paint... cuz tonight is the night this turns into a BATTLE. and boy was this the wrong move for the Sens. :roll:

anyone catch the JR interview during one of the intermissions last night? (forget which game)

Saunders asked him if the players were as pissed as Hitch was about the 'dirty' play of the Sens. JR responded with.... well, we watched a lot of film today of the last game, and noticed a Lot of things that you don't see, as players, on the ice. A lot of little stickwork from the Havlats and Hossas... that None of the guys were very happy with. We're going to battle.

that's not word for word, but it's very damn close.

[Shell]

High sticks low blow to Flyers
By Ray Parrillo
Inquirer Staff Writer

There was no evidence that it happened, but no one would have been surprised if coach Ken Hitchcock had stood Kim Johnsson in the middle of the room during yesterday's team meeting and used him as Exhibit A for ratcheting up the Flyers' emotions for tonight's Game 3 against the Ottawa Senators.

The nasty gashes above and below Johnsson's right eyebrow, carved by the stick of the Senators' Martin Havlat during the Flyers' 2-0 win Sunday night in Ottawa, certainly got Keith Primeau's blood boiling.

"You're starting a street fight, and that's fine with us," the team captain said.

Primeau suffered a gash on his face during his first shift, when Daniel Alfredsson went up high with his stick. He doesn't believe Johnsson was accidentally cut.

"If you look at the tape, it's the tip of his stick, and there were two, three other plays when someone was going to make contact on him when his stick was up in your teeth," Primeau said. "I don't know if it was intentional with Daniel, but it was careless nonetheless."

Hitchcock is well-schooled in motivational tactics, so it's natural to wonder whether he is making an issue of the Senators' stickwork to give his team an extra boost as the second-round best-of-seven playoff series, which is even at one game apiece, resumes at the First Union Center.

Yes, the coach said, the Flyers are at their best when they are fueled by emotion. Yes, he said, he noticed that the Flyers tightened up their play after they got a look at Johnsson's eye.

Johnsson was hurt with about six minutes remaining in the second period. He returned to the game after taking 25 stitches. Considering how close Havlat's stick came to catching Johnsson in the eye itself, he's a lucky young man. No penalty was called, however.

Johnsson has been one of the Flyers' most effective defensemen during the playoffs, and more of a burden fell on him and the team's other blue-liners after Eric Desjardins went down with a broken foot in the Toronto series.

Indeed, Hitchcock genuinely seems to have it in for Havlat, a 22-year-old rising star. He denied any gamesmanship. He also had a warning for Havlat.

"We lost one guy [Desjardins] because of an unfortunate injury, and when I saw Kim I thought we were losing him for the series," Hitchcock said.

"When I saw the replay after the second period, I was pissed off," the coach said. "First, there was no call. Second, it's within an eyelash of ending his season and potentially ending a lot more than his season. To take 25 on the eyelid, that's quite a zipper.

"The thing that bothers me is the careless use of the sticks. Claude Lapointe got cross-checked right over the back of the head on a breakaway. It's the same player [Havlat], so either put your stick down or deal with the consequences. I don't care if you're the world's greatest hockey player, put your bloody stick down and play the game the right way.

"Martin Havlat has to play the game by the same rules as everyone else."

Asked whether he believed Havlat's high stick on Johnsson was deliberate, Hitchcock smiled. "I think there's more to this," he said, declining to elaborate.

Havlat told reporters in Ottawa yesterday that the high stick was an accident.

"I don't care what [Hitchcock] says," Havlat said. "He can say what he wants to say. It's funny. It was an accident. My stick kind of got up and caught him in the head. I was just lucky the referee wasn't able to see it."

The Senators, who have never advanced past the second round of the Stanley Cup playoffs in their 11-year history, have long had a reputation as a highly skilled but passive team that can be bullied. So it's odd that they are being accused of dirty tactics.

"I never heard that said about us before," winger Magnus Arvedson said. "If anything, people are always saying we're too nice."

But Primeau concurred with Hitchcock.

"If you look at their past series, they've sent guys for stitches," Primeau said. "Maybe it's gone by the wayside because they have so many skilled guys, and skilled guys are the ones who get their sticks up."

Hitchcock was coy when asked whether he might play brawny Todd Fedoruk tonight, which he suggested after Game 2. The 6-foot-2, 235-pound left winger has yet to appear in the playoffs, but Hitchcock might want him to police matters.

"He's going to hang around the team a little closer," Hitchcock said. "He's got size and speed. He gets on top of people. He's a great forechecker. It's not just that he's a tough guy. I think we've got to look at him and [Radovan] Somik."

"The role I play can help energize the team," Fedoruk said.

The stick issue aside, the Flyers will have to play better than they did in Game 2, which they won because of Roman Cechmanek's superb goaltending. The Flyers played better in Game 1 but lost, 4-2.

"Their defense is mobile, big, physical, and they make you pay a price to compete," Hitchcock said. "I think they're underrated as a group of defensemen. Everybody talks about their skill level, but that's a good group of defensemen and we're going to have to fight our way through them."

One way or the other.

[Shell]

High sticks low blow to Flyers
By Ray Parrillo
Inquirer Staff Writer

There was no evidence that it happened, but no one would have been surprised if coach Ken Hitchcock had stood Kim Johnsson in the middle of the room during yesterday's team meeting and used him as Exhibit A for ratcheting up the Flyers' emotions for tonight's Game 3 against the Ottawa Senators.

The nasty gashes above and below Johnsson's right eyebrow, carved by the stick of the Senators' Martin Havlat during the Flyers' 2-0 win Sunday night in Ottawa, certainly got Keith Primeau's blood boiling.

"You're starting a street fight, and that's fine with us," the team captain said.

Primeau suffered a gash on his face during his first shift, when Daniel Alfredsson went up high with his stick. He doesn't believe Johnsson was accidentally cut.

"If you look at the tape, it's the tip of his stick, and there were two, three other plays when someone was going to make contact on him when his stick was up in your teeth," Primeau said. "I don't know if it was intentional with Daniel, but it was careless nonetheless."

Hitchcock is well-schooled in motivational tactics, so it's natural to wonder whether he is making an issue of the Senators' stickwork to give his team an extra boost as the second-round best-of-seven playoff series, which is even at one game apiece, resumes at the First Union Center.

Yes, the coach said, the Flyers are at their best when they are fueled by emotion. Yes, he said, he noticed that the Flyers tightened up their play after they got a look at Johnsson's eye.

Johnsson was hurt with about six minutes remaining in the second period. He returned to the game after taking 25 stitches. Considering how close Havlat's stick came to catching Johnsson in the eye itself, he's a lucky young man. No penalty was called, however.

Johnsson has been one of the Flyers' most effective defensemen during the playoffs, and more of a burden fell on him and the team's other blue-liners after Eric Desjardins went down with a broken foot in the Toronto series.

Indeed, Hitchcock genuinely seems to have it in for Havlat, a 22-year-old rising star. He denied any gamesmanship. He also had a warning for Havlat.

"We lost one guy [Desjardins] because of an unfortunate injury, and when I saw Kim I thought we were losing him for the series," Hitchcock said.

"When I saw the replay after the second period, I was pissed off," the coach said. "First, there was no call. Second, it's within an eyelash of ending his season and potentially ending a lot more than his season. To take 25 on the eyelid, that's quite a zipper.

"The thing that bothers me is the careless use of the sticks. Claude Lapointe got cross-checked right over the back of the head on a breakaway. It's the same player [Havlat], so either put your stick down or deal with the consequences. I don't care if you're the world's greatest hockey player, put your bloody stick down and play the game the right way.

"Martin Havlat has to play the game by the same rules as everyone else."

Asked whether he believed Havlat's high stick on Johnsson was deliberate, Hitchcock smiled. "I think there's more to this," he said, declining to elaborate.

Havlat told reporters in Ottawa yesterday that the high stick was an accident.

"I don't care what [Hitchcock] says," Havlat said. "He can say what he wants to say. It's funny. It was an accident. My stick kind of got up and caught him in the head. I was just lucky the referee wasn't able to see it."

The Senators, who have never advanced past the second round of the Stanley Cup playoffs in their 11-year history, have long had a reputation as a highly skilled but passive team that can be bullied. So it's odd that they are being accused of dirty tactics.

"I never heard that said about us before," winger Magnus Arvedson said. "If anything, people are always saying we're too nice."

But Primeau concurred with Hitchcock.

"If you look at their past series, they've sent guys for stitches," Primeau said. "Maybe it's gone by the wayside because they have so many skilled guys, and skilled guys are the ones who get their sticks up."

Hitchcock was coy when asked whether he might play brawny Todd Fedoruk tonight, which he suggested after Game 2. The 6-foot-2, 235-pound left winger has yet to appear in the playoffs, but Hitchcock might want him to police matters.

"He's going to hang around the team a little closer," Hitchcock said. "He's got size and speed. He gets on top of people. He's a great forechecker. It's not just that he's a tough guy. I think we've got to look at him and [Radovan] Somik."

"The role I play can help energize the team," Fedoruk said.

The stick issue aside, the Flyers will have to play better than they did in Game 2, which they won because of Roman Cechmanek's superb goaltending. The Flyers played better in Game 1 but lost, 4-2.

"Their defense is mobile, big, physical, and they make you pay a price to compete," Hitchcock said. "I think they're underrated as a group of defensemen. Everybody talks about their skill level, but that's a good group of defensemen and we're going to have to fight our way through them."

One way or the other.

[crazy4canes]

Ahhh...the playoffs. There's always a war of words in the media around this time of year. Fun stuff. :evil: Whatever you have to do to get yourselves pumped up, I suppose. :spin:

[crazy4canes]

Ahhh...the playoffs. There's always a war of words in the media around this time of year. Fun stuff. :evil: Whatever you have to do to get yourselves pumped up, I suppose. :spin:

[Guyute]

ya know what did it for me?

"I don't care what [Hitchcock] says," Havlat said. "He can say what he wants to say. It's funny. It was an accident. My stick kind of got up and caught him in the head. I was just lucky the referee wasn't able to see it."

"It's funny."

It's funny??? It's funny that a guy almost lost his eye because you were careless with your stick??

http://www.tridead.net/canes/images/smilies/ranting.gif

I'm going to enjoy this game. I Really wanted to go up to philly for the game 7 vs toronto... but this is one I'd like to be at even more.

[Guyute]

ya know what did it for me?

"I don't care what [Hitchcock] says," Havlat said. "He can say what he wants to say. It's funny. It was an accident. My stick kind of got up and caught him in the head. I was just lucky the referee wasn't able to see it."

"It's funny."

It's funny??? It's funny that a guy almost lost his eye because you were careless with your stick??

http://www.tridead.net/canes/images/smilies/ranting.gif

I'm going to enjoy this game. I Really wanted to go up to philly for the game 7 vs toronto... but this is one I'd like to be at even more.

[StormShaman]

ya know what did it for me?

"I don't care what [Hitchcock] says," Havlat said. "He can say what he wants to say. It's funny. It was an accident. My stick kind of got up and caught him in the head. I was just lucky the referee wasn't able to see it."

"It's funny."

It's funny??? It's funny that a guy almost lost his eye because you were careless with your stick??

I somehow don't think he meant the "ha-ha" kind of funny.

[StormShaman]

ya know what did it for me?

"I don't care what [Hitchcock] says," Havlat said. "He can say what he wants to say. It's funny. It was an accident. My stick kind of got up and caught him in the head. I was just lucky the referee wasn't able to see it."

"It's funny."

It's funny??? It's funny that a guy almost lost his eye because you were careless with your stick??

I somehow don't think he meant the "ha-ha" kind of funny.

[Kat]

I somehow don't think he meant the "ha-ha" kind of funny.

I agree with you. Either that or "It's funny" referred to Hitchcock and his comments, not the act itself.

Anyhow, I am back to what would have happened if NHL players wore a face shield... neither this injury or Stevens' would have happened if the NHL mandated face shields, or if either player chose to wear one and protect himself. Stevens was even missing the plastic part over the ears which seems to come standard with every helmet (and every player seems to remove). I just don't understand why they will protect the body so much, and completely neglect the face, neck, ears...

-Kat

[Kat]

I somehow don't think he meant the "ha-ha" kind of funny.

I agree with you. Either that or "It's funny" referred to Hitchcock and his comments, not the act itself.

Anyhow, I am back to what would have happened if NHL players wore a face shield... neither this injury or Stevens' would have happened if the NHL mandated face shields, or if either player chose to wear one and protect himself. Stevens was even missing the plastic part over the ears which seems to come standard with every helmet (and every player seems to remove). I just don't understand why they will protect the body so much, and completely neglect the face, neck, ears...

-Kat

[tommy]

Well it gets to the point where the facial equipment gets distracting to the players, which is why most don't wear a face mask. They say it restricts vision, and clouds up often, and that it is generally more harm than good. The players even claim that a stick can still manage to get into the mask, and can be even worse because it is hard to pull it out without injuring the player who is wearing the mask. Maybe they don't seem like good excuses, but hey, it's their bodies, not ours.

[tommy]

Well it gets to the point where the facial equipment gets distracting to the players, which is why most don't wear a face mask. They say it restricts vision, and clouds up often, and that it is generally more harm than good. The players even claim that a stick can still manage to get into the mask, and can be even worse because it is hard to pull it out without injuring the player who is wearing the mask. Maybe they don't seem like good excuses, but hey, it's their bodies, not ours.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Do you even hear that many instances in the NHL where players have career ending injuries that could have been prevented by wearing a mask? Not saying it can't happen just that it seems pretty rare.


Heeheeheeheehee. I CAN'T WAIT for tonight. http://www.jordysworld.de/emoticons/teufel13.gif

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Do you even hear that many instances in the NHL where players have career ending injuries that could have been prevented by wearing a mask? Not saying it can't happen just that it seems pretty rare.


Heeheeheeheehee. I CAN'T WAIT for tonight. http://www.jordysworld.de/emoticons/teufel13.gif

[Guyute]

it's quite possible that what was 'funny' in his mind was Hitch's comment.
but, I chose to read it the way that I did. :p

Now that we've rid the playoffs of Toronto, I need some reasons to despise the Sens :)

plus, it'll make it that much more enjoyable when the flyers are plastering people into the boards. http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/devil-naughty.gif

[Guyute]

it's quite possible that what was 'funny' in his mind was Hitch's comment.
but, I chose to read it the way that I did. :p

Now that we've rid the playoffs of Toronto, I need some reasons to despise the Sens :)

plus, it'll make it that much more enjoyable when the flyers are plastering people into the boards. http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/devil-naughty.gif

[nccanes]

Do you even hear that many instances in the NHL where players have career ending injuries that could have been prevented by wearing a mask? Not saying it can't happen just that it seems pretty rare.


I'm not sure about career-ending (although I'm imagine there have been some - Bryan Berard came pretty close, compliments of Hossa's stick), but surely more involved recovery, more stitches, more concussions, etc. Obviously the players that go shield-less are willing to risk that "cost", for the clear-viewed "benefit". Strange.

[nccanes]

Do you even hear that many instances in the NHL where players have career ending injuries that could have been prevented by wearing a mask? Not saying it can't happen just that it seems pretty rare.


I'm not sure about career-ending (although I'm imagine there have been some - Bryan Berard came pretty close, compliments of Hossa's stick), but surely more involved recovery, more stitches, more concussions, etc. Obviously the players that go shield-less are willing to risk that "cost", for the clear-viewed "benefit". Strange.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

I'm not sure about career-ending (although I'm imagine there have been some - Bryan Berard came pretty close, compliments of Hossa's stick), but surely more involved recovery, more stitches, more concussions, etc. Obviously the players that go shield-less are willing to risk that "cost", for the clear-viewed "benefit". Strange.

I don't see how a shield would protect you against a concussion. It wouldn't have changed anything for Jesse or Hedican this year....and Weekes has the biggest shield ever!

As far as stiches go I think the highest number of stiches on one injury this year (for the Canes) goes to Francis (when his chin got sliced open....can anyone else think of someone who got more stiches in one whack? I may be wrong).....and he wear's a shield. I don't see that the little visor affords much protection. If they go to the full, Hannibal-Lector shields like in college hockey, sure, but I can definitely see how those things make life harder.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

I'm not sure about career-ending (although I'm imagine there have been some - Bryan Berard came pretty close, compliments of Hossa's stick), but surely more involved recovery, more stitches, more concussions, etc. Obviously the players that go shield-less are willing to risk that "cost", for the clear-viewed "benefit". Strange.

I don't see how a shield would protect you against a concussion. It wouldn't have changed anything for Jesse or Hedican this year....and Weekes has the biggest shield ever!

As far as stiches go I think the highest number of stiches on one injury this year (for the Canes) goes to Francis (when his chin got sliced open....can anyone else think of someone who got more stiches in one whack? I may be wrong).....and he wear's a shield. I don't see that the little visor affords much protection. If they go to the full, Hannibal-Lector shields like in college hockey, sure, but I can definitely see how those things make life harder.

[Guyute]

yeah, half-shields are much easier to get used to... yet provide Very little extra protection.

full shields (with the full-fledged chin piece) provide Full facial protection, yet are very hard to get used to. you just can't see the puck at your feet all that well.

but, there's definitely been more and more players adding some sort of visor in the last few years. but, I don't think it'll be league-mandated anytime soon.

here's an article:
http://espn.go.com/nhl/columns/stevenson_chris/1497095.html

[Guyute]

yeah, half-shields are much easier to get used to... yet provide Very little extra protection.

full shields (with the full-fledged chin piece) provide Full facial protection, yet are very hard to get used to. you just can't see the puck at your feet all that well.

but, there's definitely been more and more players adding some sort of visor in the last few years. but, I don't think it'll be league-mandated anytime soon.

here's an article:
http://espn.go.com/nhl/columns/stevenson_chris/1497095.html

[nccanes]

I don't see how a shield would protect you against a concussion. It wouldn't have changed anything for Jesse or Hedican this year....and Weekes has the biggest shield ever!


Well, I certainly don't think any sort of equipment is going to eliminate concussions.

But, I'm certain I've read articles about how face shields can help prevent head injuries, particularly when the head/face is going to make contact with the boards/glass, but I don't have time to look them up now, gotta run out.

I guess stitches are debatable - again, not suggesting it would eliminate them, but just reduce them. And no question (in my book) that the eyes are protected more with a face shield than without.

[nccanes]

I don't see how a shield would protect you against a concussion. It wouldn't have changed anything for Jesse or Hedican this year....and Weekes has the biggest shield ever!


Well, I certainly don't think any sort of equipment is going to eliminate concussions.

But, I'm certain I've read articles about how face shields can help prevent head injuries, particularly when the head/face is going to make contact with the boards/glass, but I don't have time to look them up now, gotta run out.

I guess stitches are debatable - again, not suggesting it would eliminate them, but just reduce them. And no question (in my book) that the eyes are protected more with a face shield than without.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

I guess stitches are debatable - again, not suggesting it would eliminate them, but just reduce them. And no question (in my book) that the eyes are protected more with a face shield than without.

I agree. And I think most players are only reluctant to wear visors because of some stupid macho rule they have. But it is their decision and I can see why they make it the way they do. For example, I can't stand it when they make me wear safety glasses in a clean-room lab....they fog up and they do impair my vision. I understand the point behind them but I don't see many people losing eyes around me so, if given the choice, I probably wouldn't wear them. I see where they are coming from because their work is a lot more impaired when they can't see through their visor than mine is.

And to get back on topic... GO FLYERS!!!!

[SouthernHockeyChick]

I guess stitches are debatable - again, not suggesting it would eliminate them, but just reduce them. And no question (in my book) that the eyes are protected more with a face shield than without.

I agree. And I think most players are only reluctant to wear visors because of some stupid macho rule they have. But it is their decision and I can see why they make it the way they do. For example, I can't stand it when they make me wear safety glasses in a clean-room lab....they fog up and they do impair my vision. I understand the point behind them but I don't see many people losing eyes around me so, if given the choice, I probably wouldn't wear them. I see where they are coming from because their work is a lot more impaired when they can't see through their visor than mine is.

And to get back on topic... GO FLYERS!!!!

[Alicia]

ya know what did it for me?

"I don't care what [Hitchcock] says," Havlat said. "He can say what he wants to say. It's funny. It was an accident. My stick kind of got up and caught him in the head. I was just lucky the referee wasn't able to see it."

"It's funny."

It's funny??? It's funny that a guy almost lost his eye because you were careless with your stick??

http://www.tridead.net/canes/images/smilies/ranting.gif

I'm going to enjoy this game. I Really wanted to go up to philly for the game 7 vs toronto... but this is one I'd like to be at even more.

The part that got me was "I was just lucky the referee wasn't able to see it." Well buddy, let's see how lucky you are tonight...Go Flyers!!

[hyena]

it's quite possible that what was 'funny' in his mind was Hitch's comment.
but, I chose to read it the way that I did. :p
me too, actually.
The part that got me was "I was just lucky the referee wasn't able to see it."
it kills me how these guys act all innocent and stuff -- like that BS about "If anything, people are always saying we're too nice."... it's a nice front until they say that crap quoted above. whatever. i can't wait until the game tonight. :evil:

go flyers!

[talkingcanes]

I think many players in many games consider themselves lucky that the officials don't see everything. I don't see that as unusual, but then


Go Sens :evil:

[Guyute]

In the immortal (lol) words of Mills Lane........

Let's Get it ohn!!!!

[Kat]

And I think most players are only reluctant to wear visors because of some stupid macho rule they have. But it is their decision and I can see why they make it the way they do. For example, I can't stand it when they make me wear safety glasses in a clean-room lab....they fog up and they do impair my vision. I understand the point behind them but I don't see many people losing eyes around me so, if given the choice, I probably wouldn't wear them. I see where they are coming from because their work is a lot more impaired when they can't see through their visor than mine is.



As someone who wears a full plastic face shield... yes, it definitely affects your vision, especially peripheral and at your feet. But you do get used to it. Also, it doesn't fog up, but the half shields definitely do, and I agree that they aren't much protection from an errant stick.

But, you can take a look at any team at any given time and at least one person probably has a black eye or a cut on their face. I also saw that guy get his throat cut with a skate. I guess my point is this... protective equipment exists, and they are allowed to wear it. If they choose not to, and get hurt, well, then it was their choice to do so and I refuse to feel that bad for them.

-Kat (<-- heartless b****)

[hyena]

from espn.com:

Flyers drop puck on gamesmanship

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
By Rob Parent
Special to ESPN.com

OTTAWA -- "I'm pissed off," Philadelphia Flyers coach Ken Hitchcock informed everybody after his team had evened the Eastern Conference semifinal series with a 2-0 win over the Ottawa Senators in Game 2.

"So we'll see. It should be an interesting series now," he added, dramatically dropping his microphone to the table. "It should be a really interesting series."

What's with him? Imagine what he's like when the Flyers lose. But maybe Hitchcock is just following a rehashed script because he knows he's the coach of a team that on paper, at least, is supposed to lose.

Sure, the Flyers bulked up at the trade deadline with additions like Tony Amonte, Claude Lapointe and defenseman Dmitry Yushkevich. But when compared to the slick Euroskill of the Senators, the Flyers look more like ugly old pugs trying to roundhouse their way into the next round.

So in a classic reversal, Hitchcock -- cast him as a $1.2 million-a-year Mick in a Rocky flick populated with characters who have something to prove -- seized upon something in this second game to whisper into his players' ears for the rest of the series.

Keith Primeau had taken a swing of Daniel Alfredsson's stick across the lower lip. Flyers defenseman Kim Johnsson was slapped full in the face by a blade-wielding Martin Havlat, opening a nice gash over his eye. Puzzling goalie Roman Cechmanek went to play a puck near his net and was nudged ever-so-nicely by onrushing Magnus Arvedson.

That's just what everybody saw. Well, everybody but the two guys wearing referee garb.

"We had four guys cut," Hitchcock charged. "We were moving guys in and out ... we were doing anything we could to have three lines going. This is grunt, grind and grit-it-out hockey now. This is about wanting it more. It's about fighting for space. We need to play really, really physical now."

Hear those horns? See Hitch stir up all those raw-egg milkshakes? It's all part of his sequeled script, one he used in Dallas to so many rave reviews. That's what this series has swung toward, a classic plot of twisted playoff hockey.

Jacques Martin as the veteran Ottawa coach who likely will be dismissed if his team loses this series.

Primeau and Alfredsson as team captains whose departures could also be in the offing with series disappointments.

A Flyers team that was humiliated by the Senators in the quarterfinals a year ago, scoring just two goals in a five-game blowout.

A Senators team that has never advanced beyond the second round of the playoffs, folding three times to archrival Toronto in their last three playoff experiences. Why?

Something about them not being tough enough. So now they're brutes packing switchblades?

"This is the game that gets played in the playoffs," said Ottawa center Todd White. "We're just trying to play the game on the ice. We can't get worried about what is said off the ice. They're just trying to get an advantage, trying to take the focus off them and put it on us."

Surrounded Monday afternoon by all those Ottawa reporters with cigarettes hanging from the lips and cards saying "Scoop" tacked to the front of their fedoras, Martin initially refused to respond to his off-ice friend Hitchcock's postgame charges that the Senators were playing "dirty."

But when asked if he'd ever tried similar motivational techniques, Martin remained softly Senatorial in curtly explaining, "No. I don't think that's my style.

"Each coach has his own style, and I respect that," said Martin. "I respect the work the media has to do, too. I try to collaborate as much as possible, and since I've been here that's the philosophy I've tried to establish. I know it's not always pleasant for the media, because I won't criticize my players through the media. If I have a beef, I go to them.

"I don't think I'm about to change the way I am, but if other coaches want to do that, that's fine. Each coach has to use his own style and what's productive for them."

Oh. Well, take that, Hitch.

You'd think Martin would be more appreciative, since the Flyers just spent seven games -- and spent themselves -- in the first round slaying those Toronto boogeymen who so tortured Martin and his team the past three years. You'd think his players would want to kiss them instead of stick them.

Of course, that's what you're supposed to do with bayonets. Let's ask an old expert in this art about that:

"Primeau gets a stick in the face right off the bat," said Flyers president, general manager and old soldier Bob Clarke. "Johnsson gets his face carved up. Those are two officials (Stephen Walkom and Paul Devorski in this case) out there. The goalie gets roughed ... what the bleep is this?"

That last, um, comment referred primarily to the shot Cechmanek took, which came after Philadelphia's Michal Handzus was sent to the penalty box for goaltender interference. That was the sixth time in nine playoff games that a Flyer was whistled for that same, strange infraction. The opposition -- just once.

Toronto's Ed Belfour might be a master crease contortionist, but how could you explain the disparity in such goalie abuse? Pointing at a NHL directive to the referees at the end of the regular season to pay special heed to these kinds of calls, Clarke said it was just another example of poor direction.

"The league has done this so many times," said Clarke. "OK, we're protecting the goalies. So now all the referee does is call penalties and he has no responsibility, because the league has told him to call them. They did it before with the slashing. They did it with the obstruction. You know every time (the refs) get an order from the league, they overreact. Why would you want them to overreact going into the playoffs?"

Clarke might have been especially moved to moan about penalties Sunday night, a game in which his oh-so-obstructive Flyers would be called for nine minors, including three hooking and two holding calls.

"It seems like a lot of nights we end up on the short end of the stick as far as clutching and grabbing calls go," Primeau said through his stitches. "We can get held down in the offensive zone as much as the other team likes, and then we come into our zone and make one hold and we go to the box. Hitch doesn't allow us to get sidetracked with what the refs are doing ... but it's tough. I didn't think the penalties were fair (Sunday) night, but that's the way it goes sometimes."

So there you have it. The Flyers as victims of bullying Senators and half-blind referees. A new playoff role, if a bit fabricated. But the more they keep fooling themselves, the better off they are.

Amonte has one goal in the playoffs. John LeClair, too. Cechmanek is a daily "To Tell The Truth" show. Top defenseman Eric Desjardins likely is gone for the rest of the playoffs with a fractured foot. The rest of the defense is mostly old and bald or young and freshly scarred.

On the other side, players like Alfredsson, Arvedson, Havlat, White, Marian Hossa, Radek Bonk and Zdeno Chara have been together for quite a while now. They have learned from playoff losses of the past, and rolled to the Presidents' Trophy during the regular season. So of course they're the better team. Of course they should win.

Of course, of course ... so why are they acting like a bunch of dirty mules?

"They can call us whatever they want," Havlat said. "I was just trying to get to the puck, and to do that I tried to get my stick over his head. I guess I must have hit (Johnsson) then. It's lucky the referee didn't see it, but it was an accident. I can't say anything more."

See, that's the problem. Ottawa might hold advantages in forward skill and overall depth. The Senators' offensive punch might be stronger, their feet quicker, their hands better utilized. What they lack comes from the gut and tongue; that all-important of postseason weapons called gamesmanship.

Hitchcock won a Stanley Cup with it in 1999.

"Everybody got angry," Hitchcock railed after Game 2. "We're a much better team when we're angry."

Imagine him revealing a playoff secret like that. Then again, this series both on the ice and in the interview room isn't following a routine plotline. On paper, the Senators are a superior team. But as Hitchcock knows so well, these playoff shows don't always go according to the script.

[StormShaman]

*ahem*

Go Sens Go.

*dodges brickbats from the crowd*


(sorry peeps--as much as I like Roman Cechmanek and Sami Kapanen, I like Patty Lalime and Marian Hossa more)

[Stormbringer]

What Camille said.

(joins Camille in dodging brickbats)

[Shell]

Thanks hyena, good read! and of course it's true, but it makes it more fun for sure!!

Let's go Flyers (and not hurling anything at Sens fans ;))

[Kat]

(Joins SB/FC and Cam in dodging... sorry, as a Pgh fan I have trouble liking Philly. I love Recchi though.)

-Kat

[Alicia]

Way to come in on a line change LeClair!!

[hyena]

yeah! leclair!!! :D :D COME ON FLYERS!!!

[Shell]

excellent period!!

[SouthernHockeyChick]

CRAP!! The Sens tied it up!

[hyena]

SAMI!!!! :smoke:

[Alicia]

Woot! Go Sami!!

[Shell]

excellent for Sami.. sure hope John is OK!!!

Man, I didn't know other teams had power plays as terrible as ours! It's a success if no one scores a shorty against ya!

[Shell]

sami's the interview :D

[hyena]

arrgh, another overtime. :beatup: go flyers!

[hyena]

#$%()&*$%$*%!!!!!!!!! :mad: http://www.electrichyena.com/other/rant.gif :mad:

[StormShaman]

:smoke:

[SouthernHockeyChick]

:sad:

Well guys, if you stack Flyers players three deep in front of Roman...HOW THE H*** DO YOU EXPECT HIM TO STOP THE PUCK?????

[Alicia]

I agree SHC...the idea is to screen Lalime here. :roll: :mad:

[folgersnyourcup]

Well, an interesting, perhaps fluky goal by Kapanen gave the Flyers the lead but Hossa tied it up due to spotty play by Cechmanek.... Still he didn't see the game winning puck so you can hardly fault him for it. But as the commentators he said, he certainly seemed to voice his displeasure for his teammate's screening him. That's not a good attitude.

But way to go Sens! :)

[Guyute]

:mad:

one of these games philly is going to have to do two things:

1. play with the physicality they did against toronto
2. get their PP together. :roll:

I counted on this one going 7 the whole way.... but I really wanted that 2-1 edge. oh well.

[Jeff O Rocks]

What a shot by Redden....it was a perfect angle and perfect shot...nothing Checmanek could do!! :roll:

[Shell]

Thursday, May 1, 2003
Flyers finally free of sexual obligations
By MIKE ULMER, Toronto Sun

PHILADELPHIA -- In an effort to ration precious energy for a game they must win, the Philadelphia Flyers were sequestered in a hotel last night.

The Flyers are in danger of falling behind the Ottawa Senators three games to one tonight in their Eastern Conference semi-final.

They have been reduced to hoping abstinence makes the shot grow stronger.

"We have a lot of married guys," coach Ken Hitchcock said, "and every shred of energy we can get, we want to keep."

Say no more, Kenny boy.

Writers covering the team nodded sagely when told the news. We may not have much in common with young, wealthy athletes but we, too, know how hard it is to get work done under the strain of a spouse's constant sexual demands.

Press an ear against the door of any sports writer's home and you'll likely hear: "For God's sake, woman ... I'm trying to conjugate."

No one among the Flyers seemed to mind.

"My wife would probably prefer I stayed at a hotel this time of year," captain Keith Primeau said. "She is looking forward to it."

Poor kid.

The Flyers' move is part superstition, part desperation and a nod to folklore. It has long been a part of the athlete's myth that sex prior to sporting events robs the body of vitality that could otherwise be spent more usefully in the arena.

Now, the insistence on no sex will be taken by some as evidence of the game's undercurrent of homo-eroticism and that's just bunk.

How some could construe young men in the prime of their lives spending virtually all their time together, sweating together, playing together, hugging each other when something good happens, into something dirty is beyond me.

Before issuing buttons reading: "No sex please, I'm a Philadelphia Flyer," the team should have done a little more homework.

Consider goalie Roman Cechmanek. Cechmanek's wife, the lovely and fetching Dagmar, is back in the Czech Republic and if there is anyone in this town who could use a little lovin' it's the fellow nicknamed by one enterprising columnist "the bipolar goaler."

Cechmanek seems to have great puck sense. What he seems to lack is a sense of direction.

Cechmanek didn't speak after giving up two soft goals in Game 3 on Tuesday, one on a wraparound by Marian Hossa and the winner on a bad-angle shot from Wade Redden. Nor was he interested in talking yesterday.

So far in this series, Cechmanek has been bad in Game 1, fine in Game 2 and poor in Game 3. For now, the Flyers are hoping it's a pattern.

"You get on the roller-coaster," Hitchcock said, sounding a little tired of his netminder's erratic play. "Sometimes it goes up, sometimes it goes down."

So here is the Flyers' situation:

Their goalie has the same cast-iron stolidness as your mutual funds.

They are getting no real production out of their big shooters. Mark Recchi, John LeClair and Tony Amonte each has a goal in the series while Jeremy Roenick hasn't scored.

The Flyers are down to five usable defencemen: Kim Johnsson, Marcus Ragnarsson, Eric Weinrich, Chris Therien and Dmitry Yushkevich. Heavy on the usable.

Worst of all, the Flyers must lengthen a series in which the longer they play, the more tired they get.

They faded noticeably in the third period and overtime in Game 3 and the Senators, a team with both speed and size up front, are punishing the Philadelphia defencemen.

"We have to finish checks to get the opponent tired," said Hossa, the best Senator of the series.

"They played a long series with Toronto and I think this can be a big advantage to us."

"It's the same thing when we played the Islanders," forward Radek Bonk said. "If you can finish your check on the defence and dump it in, you can make a difference."

Personally, if I were Hitchcock, I would put myself in the shoes of my players' significant others for a moment.

They have watched their husbands come home in pieces. They have tended to the children by themselves for a month. Now, given a chance for a 10-minute break while Mr. Millionaire Hockey Star is finally home, they are told everyone is staying in yet another four-star hotel, the better to bond with teammates with whom they have spent eight months.

Forget the players. Hitchcock should dress their wives.

[crazy4canes]

"No sex please, I'm a Philadelphia Flyer,"

http://websmileys.bei.t-online.de/lachen70.gif

"My wife would probably prefer I stayed at a hotel this time of year," captain Keith Primeau said. "She is looking forward to it."

Can you blame her? :beatup:

[Jeff O Rocks]

"No sex please, I'm a Philadelphia Flyer,"

http://websmileys.bei.t-online.de/lachen70.gif

"My wife would probably prefer I stayed at a hotel this time of year," captain Keith Primeau said. "She is looking forward to it."

Can you blame her? :beatup:

I can imagine that they all can be a little "moody" this time of year when they have a bad game....she is probably glad to get rid of him!! :D

[Guyute]

Oh goody, a canadian article about the flyers. :roll:

lol.

This is nothing new. Flyers stay in hotels quite often for home games, even during the regular season. And I agree with it... keeps you focused.
They shouldn't be thinking of anything except mopping the ice with the Sens. Period.

Your down 2-1, tonight is the biggest game of this season to date. focus.

get your nookie later.... like after a 4-1 outburst. :beatup: :D

[nccanes]

"We have a lot of married guys," coach Ken Hitchcock said, "and every shred of energy we can get, we want to keep."

Say no more, Kenny boy.

Writers covering the team nodded sagely when told the news. We may not have much in common with young, wealthy athletes but we, too, know how hard it is to get work done under the strain of a spouse's constant sexual demands.

Press an ear against the door of any sports writer's home and you'll likely hear: "For God's sake, woman ... I'm trying to conjugate."



http://websmileys.bei.t-online.de/lachen18.gif Good find Shell!

Can you even imagine seeing this in the N&O? Not likely.... http://websmileys.bei.t-online.de/lachen18.gif

[hyena]

:D that's great stuff.

(go flyers!)

[SouthernHockeyChick]

I can't wait for this game tonight.....but can you believe it't the only one!!! What will I do during intermissions? And after it's over? No school, no hockey.....I forget what else there is to do! :sad: ;)

[Jeff O Rocks]

no hockey.....I forget what else there is to do! :sad: ;)

I shudder to ponder this question from late June to September! :cry: :sad: The ONLY thing that makes me feel better is all of you guys...you feel the very same!!!!! **GROUP HUG**

oh..and GO PHILLY!! ;)

[Kat]

I can't wait for this game tonight.....but can you believe it't the only one!!! What will I do during intermissions? And after it's over? No school, no hockey.....I forget what else there is to do! :sad: ;)

You can come watch me play... I'll be in a Tuesday, Thursday, and maybe Sunday league starting in June... :beatup:

But then again, watching adult league hockey is like watching the mighty mites, but we aren't cute.

-Kat

[Alicia]

Dang...I look down for one second, hear *DINK!* and it's a goal by Therien. 1-0 Flyers.

[tommy]

Dang...I look down for one second, hear *DINK!* and it's a goal by Therien. 1-0 Flyers.

SAME HERE!!! The one second I'm looking at the floor, there it is, PING! And it's in... but it was a weird deflection, but its 1-0 nonetheless.

[Turbulence]

And the Senators could hardly get it out of their zone in the last 2 or so minutes...Philly shut'em down. Fun series to watch....Go Sens.

[hyena]

great game. last thing i expected was a 1-0 score tonight. lalime really had no chance on that goal. oh well too bad for him, gee it looks like what goes around comes around. :evil: philly played great, though, esp. their D during the last 10 minutes. i can't wait for game 5 -- i hope roman can stay on top of his game like he was tonight. :D

go flyers!!

[Jeff O Rocks]

Even though there wasn't much scoring, I thought it was a great game..very exciting and Philly's defense was kickin'...Cechmanek was playing well tonight!! :D

[Alicia]

Yeah, this was definitely a tiiiiiight game! Yay for Cechmanek getting another shutout! :beatup: :D

[Guyute]

philly finally showed the physicality they've been missing thus far. bout time.

flyers had the sens on lockdown just about that whole 3rd period. perfectly played trapping. Roman was very solid.... which he always is the game following a loss (5-0 now in playoffs)...
I'd just like to see him play that way in more games than the one after a loss.

great game though, and BOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAA!!!! Series tied at 2 :D

let's go flyers

[Shell]

Great game indeed... man, I was nervous for the end just Knowing there would be that damn tying goal with .2 seconds left or something, but Flyers did an excellent job of keeping it in the other end. Let's go for 2 in a row this time Roman!!!

What a scare this must have been!

Sens' flight makes emergency landing
TSN.ca Staff
5/2/2003

The Ottawa Senators got a big scare en route back to the nation's capital Thursday night.

The team's charter flight was forced to turn around and make an emergency landing back in Philadelphia after an engine blew out three minutes into their trip home.

No one on the plane was hurt in the incident. The team planned to take another plane back to Ottawa Thursday night.

The Senators were on the way home after a 1-0 loss to the Philadelphia Flyers in Game 4 of their Eastern Conference Semifinal. The team split the two games in Philadelphia, with the series now tied at two wins apiece. Game 5 is Saturday afternoon at the Corel Centre.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

That must have sucked!! I swear my biggest fear lately is that some hockey team's plane will crash. :crazy: As much as they fly it's amazing stuff like that doesn't happen more often. Glad everyone is OK.

[Jeff O Rocks]

I am thankful that they are all ok...I do too SHC...I know how much time our beloved Canes spend in the air and it concerns me... :roll: but they are probably (and hopefully) safer than I am fighting I-40 traffic in from Johnston County every morning and afternoon.. :eek2:

[Guyute]

I had the same thing happen when flying from Philly to Denver once. of course, it was a commercial airliner, with 4 engines... so one going out wasn't that big of a deal... though some people around me were totally freaking out. :eek: :crazy:

I had an ex-pilot next to me though, he was telling people we could lose another one and still make it to Denver without worry. I don't think that's what people wanted to hear... they kept telling him to shut up, don't mention losing another engine. lol.

overall it was pretty humorous I must say. was kinda neat seeing all that smoke trail from an engine too... :roll: hehe