Patrick Roy retiring?

[talkingcanes]

Patrick Roy retiring? (http://waymoresports.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=waymoresports/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1051630810374&call_page=WM_MapleLeafs&call_pageid=977977887509&call_pagepath=MapleLeafs/MapleLeafs)

the article is at waymoresports.com

(edited by Shell to fix the link)

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Forsberg may be gone too:

http://www.faceoff.com/nhl/news/story.html?f=/news/20030429/030429115729.html

[talkingcanes]

thanks Shell. I am such a computer ignoramous :roll:

[Alicia]

I'll believe all of that when I see it. I think a lot of things are said or alluded to while the disappointment of going out in the first round is still fresh, but some time off to think usually makes them realize they're not quite ready to leave the NHL.

[Shell]

no problem at all talking! Was just that the link was so long it made ya have to scroll on the page.. I don't mind going behind people and helping, but as an FYI - here is the code for what I did (don't worry if it doesn't make sense):

The text I want the link to come up as ( http:// www. url. com)
but with no spaces

so,
[url=http://www.letsgocanes.com]Let's Go Canes website[/url] would come out like this: Let's Go Canes website (http://www.letsgocanes.com)

hope that helps somehow,.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Thanks Shell! I was wondering the other day how y'all do that!!

[Turbulence]

Great site for phpBB code! (http://www.immoulin.nl/faq.php?mode=bbcode)


Good for help with simple code...

[talkingcanes]

I'll believe all of that when I see it. I think a lot of things are said or alluded to while the disappointment of going out in the first round is still fresh, but some time off to think usually makes them realize they're not quite ready to leave the NHL.

I don't know about Forsberg, but Roy is 38 years old with hip pain and a couple of Stanley Cups. Maybe he thinks now is a good time to retire. Can't say that I blame him if he wants to do just that.

[Captain Slack]

Wow! Talk a blow to the Avalanche of both these potential retirements come to pass! They're probably going to wish they still had Radim Vrbata.

Too bad, cause we ain't gonna give him back! :evil:

[raleighcanesfan]

I saw this at Spector's site too. They site his ailing hips. Also, they state that maybe CO will go after Burke. How about Irbe for Bates straight up? :D

[SouthernHockeyChick]

How about Irbe for Bates straight up? :D

Sounds GREAT to me!! :spin:

[Alicia]

How about Irbe for Bates straight up? :D

Sounds GREAT to me!! :spin:

Me too! (heh heh ;))

[Romney]

That works for me too. It has only been a little while, but I miss seeing that red and white #13. Even though you can tell from the way the his jersey rides up, the #44 is hard to pick out.

[Jeff O Rocks]

That works for me too. It has only been a little while, but I miss seeing that red and white #13. Even though you can tell from the way the his jersey rides up, the #44 is hard to pick out.

It is funny how they have their own "style"...I can watch a game and I know who is who without ever seeing the number or the face... especially Ronnie..he has that skating thing with the right foot! :D ...and yeah..I would love for Bates to be back HOME.

[Bridgestreetrun]

I haven't been online in awhile and found this. I really like the way this thread sounds. I hate to be too optimistic, But wouldn't that be nice for all the die hard fans of Bates (okay-i'll include myself) :D

It really is too hard to pick out the #44 riding up, and much easier to pick out the #13. There are a few others on the Avs with a similar style of skating-harder to pick out during those late night games when you are a little tired watching on a little TV.

[tommy]

All I think about when I think of Roy is him trying to pull that statue of liberty save against the wings, and having the puck knocked into the goal by shanahan the next second. classic messed up play.

[Shell]

LOL, sorry, but I thought that was absolutely great!!!
Time to deflate that head just a lil bit Patty!!

Also, from the same series.. goalie fights!
http://msn.espn.go.com/media/nhl/2003/0116/photo/a_vernieroy_i.jpg

[Jeff O Rocks]

Great pic Shell..that is definitely you don't see everyday!! :eek:

[tommy]

Didn't Vanbiesbrouck get into a fight that same year, against Pittsburgh in the ECF's???

[Shell]

I'm guessing not since that was just last year and we were in the ECFs

[StormShaman]

I'm guessing not since that was just last year and we were in the ECFs

Eh? :confused:

*points at the Vernon jersey on the Wings goalie*

That picture is from 1996, not last season. :)

Beez got into a goalie brawl that same year.

[tommy]

Yeah, I meant the same year as the picture... sorry if I was a bit vague...

And was Beezer's fight against Roy in the Cup Finals, or was it against Barasso (he was in net for the Pens, right?) I can't find anything about it online!

[StormShaman]

Yeah, I meant the same year as the picture... sorry if I was a bit vague...

And was Beezer's fight against Roy in the Cup Finals, or was it against Barasso (he was in net for the Pens, right?) I can't find anything about it online!

It was against Barrasso. A most amusing fight, too. :)

[Shell]

you're right.. my bad.. I didn't even notice it was Vernon somehow.. nor did I notice the "That was then, this is now" caption which shows past and present..
March 26, 1997: Goalies Patrick Roy and Mike Vernon vent their frustrations during the first period. The Red Wings won 6-5 in overtime.

Thanks for correcting me (and nicely at that)!

http://wemissjerry.org/smiles/blush.gif

[tommy]

Yeah, I meant the same year as the picture... sorry if I was a bit vague...

And was Beezer's fight against Roy in the Cup Finals, or was it against Barasso (he was in net for the Pens, right?) I can't find anything about it online!

It was against Barrasso. A most amusing fight, too. :)

I'm looking at this site that has every single box score from the 96 playoffs, and can't find which game it was in... but in game 2 of that series, Florida had 61 shots on goal, in a three period game!! And in game 2 or 3 of the finals, they had 64 shots on goal against Roy... games like that would be a lot more fun today... looking at all the box scores, there were a TON more shots on goal then than there are now...

And yes, it was quite a funny fight... I was only, let's see... like 9 years old at the time, but I remember that fight.

[nccanes]

I thought BroadStreetBully.com had a whole section on goalie fights, I know I've seen them somewhere, but I can't seem to find many clips there currently. Oh well. Goalie fights are so funny to watch. They are so ridiculous! :crazy:

[Turbulence]

I have a few on KaZaA....the majority of which Patrick Roy is kicking some major Mike Vernon or Chris Osgood arse. Try looking there...
I have yet to see a goalie fight live...I can't wait 'till the day. Same goes for a goalie scoring a goal...

[CaniacKikiBB13]

I have yet to see a goalie fight live...I can't wait 'till the day. Same goes for a goalie scoring a goal...

I haven't seen one live either. However, I did see garth snow lose his temper at the Islanders game in april :roll: . Hopefully next season will be the season where at least one of these two things happen...then my life will be complete :spin: !!

[Shell]

Agree or disagree?

BERNIE LINCICOME: Roy should hang them up
Rocky Mountain News

DENVER (May 5, 2003 2:20 p.m. EDT) - Not that Colorado Avalanche goaltender Patrick Roy needs my advice on whether to stay or go. Not that he would take it. But here it is anyhow.

Go.

I'll send the check for the missing $8.5 million salary later.

Here's the nub of the Roy retirement. Today it is his choice. Tomorrow it will not be. To paraphrase the late Jim Valvano, it is always too soon to quit, but how often have we seen that sentiment spoiled, not to pick at the Michael Jordan scab again.

Sounds good, persevering against the odds, against age, against your own myth, bravely fighting the good fight with weapons no longer suited to the task. Very romantic, very Monty Pythonish.

We see the old Python sketch where the valiant knight keeps losing limbs and, finally an unstable stub, he shouts at the enemy's back to stay and fight.

To be merely another when you were above all others is simply against nature, like an eagle becoming a crow, or in Roy's case, the butterfly becoming the moth.

We have seen Roy lose a Game 7 to the Red Wings, waving pucks past him like a crossing guard. We have seen Roy lose, even worse, a Game 7 to the Minnesota Wild, not with as great a vulnerability but with a greater exposure.

Humiliation is only temporary punctuation to a great career, and all the Stanley Cups and awards and praise will last longer than the look of dismay that is the last image of Roy as the puck from Minnesota's Andrew Brunette slid ominously under him. Never is Roy beaten low, never.

Would we not all, Roy included, like to erase those last impressions? Better those than deteriorating into a midseason embarrassment when, able and willing, Roy is replaced by David Aebischer, the patient Swiss valet. Or, more mortifying, to have his old agent and crony Pierre Lacroix hire a goalie to replace him, as he once did Roy for . . . uh, who remembers who the goalie was before Roy, or much care who after him?

Roy never will have the great moment again, and he invented great moments. His infrequent failures were always redeemable by one more game, one more crisis rescued, one more salvation.

He never will be Sir Patrick again, but only Mister Roy, and that is not enough.

The selfish, the sensible thing to do is quit while he's only barely behind, leave before all those aggravated snipers from all those years take their chances to get even.

Roy in goal out of some sense of affection or sympathy or just because Roy wants to be there is unthinkable. Roy in goal because he is the best is the royal robe he must wear forever. Big-play goalie. Big-game goalie. Goalie of goalies.

Roy built the legend and now he must protect it. The longer he waits to decide, if he has indeed not decided, the better his hips feel, the more vivid become the triumphs and less clear become the failures, more likely he is to try again, more in jeopardy is his eminence.

Roy can look at Ray Bourque on how to leave with grace if even a little late, or more obviously at Wayne Gretzky, who left a loser, further from greatness than Roy is.

Roy is to goalies what Gretzky is to the rest of hockey, and Gretzky took his last shift on the ice, waved goodbye and that was that. Too late for Roy to have that feeling unless he milks another season for just that reason.

This hardly seems Roy's method, although he certainly deserves a farewell tour. Jordan left basketball twice and this last turn he seemed not a player for the ages but an aging, self-indulgent relic, hanging on long past closing time.

There are moments that are right and this is the right moment, or it would have been the night the Avs lost, or at least the day after. Quick, clean, graceful.

More horrifying than Roy playing ordinary goal is Roy playing it somewhere else or deciding after a year off to come back.

Endings are seldom tidy. Jordan had his and blew it, leaving the graceful exits to Ted Williams and Rocky Marciano.

Babe Ruth ran out his string with the Boston Braves, leaving his team in a pique because it wouldn't give him the day off. Muhammad Ali fought pygmies for money, losing his last fight in front of foreigners because they were the only ones who could watch without turning their heads.

Billie Jean King hung on and on, willing to lose tennis matches to children. Sugar Ray Leonard kept retiring and unretiring just to get the maximum use from his tuxedo. Roberto Duran is probably fighting tonight somewhere.

Take a bow, Patrick. Have a life. And thanks.

[Jeff O Rocks]

Do you guys think he will or should?? :roll:

[Guyute]

I'd tend to agree. Patty just ain't the same Patty anymore. There's nothing more painful than the ultimate player hanging on, and being played like a chump.

I'd hate to see him play next year and look old.... used up.... unable to make the stops we still think maybe he can.

on the other hand, I'm not him. I don't know what his hips feel like, or what the things going on in his head are.
overall though, I'm of the "go out before you really embarrass yourself, and everything you've accomplished" ilk.

[crazy4canes]

I agree with the article. Go out with some dignity still intact.