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corylav
11-21-2005, 07:27 PM
Is anyone watching Wings-Preds? My friend just called me and said they performed CPR on Fischer on the bench ... some speculation that he took a puck in the neck/throat, but my friend said their was no visual footage of a puck hitting him. Anyone??

puck_it
11-21-2005, 07:29 PM
is he ok?!?!?!?!

if he took one in ht ethroat, it wouldnt suprise me if he needed an emergency tracheotomy.

StormShaman
11-21-2005, 07:31 PM
I'm listening to the Preds radio feed right now.

According to them, Fischer is on his way to the hospital, breathing on his own but unconscious.

Alicia
11-21-2005, 07:32 PM
http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=31513

puck_it
11-21-2005, 07:35 PM
yeha i red the lets go wings thread.... oh my god.

i hope hes ok :sad:

this is jsut terrible

SouthernHockeyChick
11-21-2005, 07:36 PM
I'm listening to the Preds radio feed right now.

According to them, Fischer is on his way to the hospital, breathing on his own but unconscious.

That's what they are saying on the CI broadcast....we had just switched over to it. I'm glad I didn't see it....I'd have been freaking out. How the hell do these guys come back and finish a game after that?!?

apolinar
11-21-2005, 07:41 PM
He may have gotten one of those checks that hits the heart perfectly at the wrong time and puts it into an irregular rhythm. I was watching it and had kudos for how quickly they started doing CPR, not like certain events in college basketball games where they carried the guy out first before doing CPR. Detroit did it RIGHT THEN AND THERE. They may have saved his life.

Alicia
11-21-2005, 07:43 PM
TSN.ca Staff

11/21/2005 8:40:29 PM

Defenceman Jiri Fischer of the Detroit Red Wings was treated by emergency medical staff after collapsing on the bench during tonight's game against the Nashville Predators.

Initial but unconfirmed reports suggest Fischer may have been hit in the throat by a stick or a puck as he sat on the bench with 7:31 left in the first period.

Medical crews appeared to be doing CPR on Fischer before he was taken out on a stretcher. Reports later said Fischer was loaded unconscious, but breathing on his own, into and ambulance and taken to a local hospital.

The Predators and Red Wings have gone to their dressing rooms and the game has been delayed until further notice.

Details to follow...

SouthernHockeyChick
11-21-2005, 07:46 PM
Someone on the Detroit board says that FSN Nashville is reporting that he is able to speak with the doctors, now. That would be good news.

EDIT: Report in Detroit: He had a seizure. He's doing "well" is stable, is responsive, breathing on his own, looks like he'll be OK.

apolinar
11-21-2005, 07:49 PM
But you usually don't do CPR on a seizure. I still hope it's not induced by his heart.

Edit: you usually don't do compressions for a seizure. CPR does include seizure protocols now.

SouthernHockeyChick
11-21-2005, 07:49 PM
The two teams are meeting to decide if they'll continue the game.....god, I love this sport.

puck_it
11-21-2005, 07:50 PM
i hope so (the getting better):sad:

as far as the game... who gives a ****... just crazy

SouthernHockeyChick
11-21-2005, 07:50 PM
But you usually don't do CPR on a seizure. I still hope it's not induced by his heart.

I was trying to figure that out as well. Maybe he hit his head when he fell over on the bench? That doesn't really make sense, either.

SouthernHockeyChick
11-21-2005, 07:52 PM
as far as the game... who gives a ****... just crazy

The players might. That's why I think it's great to let them decide.

nccanes
11-21-2005, 07:54 PM
They can't re-start until the get another ambulance at the minimum. Not saying they'll re-start anyway, but that's the current 'official' hold up.

The FSN Detroit ceiling cam (that showed the whole ice surface) had them speculating that he might have been hit with a stick held parallel with the ice that reached over the boards, but it sounds like that was just a guess.

You could clearly see the Detroit bench freaking out banging sticks. They obviously have chosen (wisely imo) to not play the footage of the medical treatment.

puck_it
11-21-2005, 07:57 PM
tsn is saying play will continue with 7:31 added to the 2nd

SouthernHockeyChick
11-21-2005, 07:57 PM
They can't re-start until the get another ambulance at the minimum. Not saying they'll re-start anyway, but that's the current 'official' hold up. That was the hold up but now they said the ambulance is there but the teams are meeting and deciding.



You could clearly see the Detroit bench freaking out banging sticks. They obviously have chosen (wisely imo) to not play the footage of the medical treatment.

Until now. :roll:

I didn't see the event in the beginning, but they are hedging on the whole CPR thing, now. "It looks like someone performed CPR" Well, in that replay I didn't see anyone doing compressions. Maybe there was more to be seen than they replayed.

SoCalcaniac
11-21-2005, 08:00 PM
I was watching the game when all this happened- Shannahan and Lang looked extremely devastated and they brought his fiancee down on the ice and walked her over to the tunnel to the locker room area- when they first said puck to the throat I about fainted myself- and then that stick speculation- OMG.

I guess they'll decide in a minute if they are going to continue. That place was literally silent until they finally announced to the fans that it was Fischer and he had a seizure. You could see people clearly freaked out and on cell phones calling to try and find out if people at home 'knew anything' Good god.

FSN Detroit is reporting the game is cancelled they will not continue tonight.

puck_it
11-21-2005, 08:02 PM
tsn saying cancelled as well
The Predators and Red Wings went their dressing rooms and the game was delayed indefinitely.

Red Wings officials later announced to the crowd that Fischer had suffered a siezure, but was responsive and stable at a local hospital.



With the apprent good news on Fischer, it was thought the game would continue, but it has now been cancelled. The game will be made up a later date.

nccanes
11-21-2005, 08:06 PM
I surely hope that CPR was not required.

Having said that - if they mis-ID'd that and repeated for nearly an hour, then they should face some harsh words. Even the arena announcer mentioned it - which I thought was odd, even if true.

Get well Jiri.

apolinar
11-21-2005, 08:11 PM
CPR does include seizure protocols for keeping the airway open during a seizure, so technically they may have done CPR on him opening the airway, and it may not have included chest compressions.

SouthernHockeyChick
11-21-2005, 08:13 PM
Thinking about it now, they mentioned that he was hooked up to a defibrillator.....so yeah, he would have needed CPR if that's true. That doesn't really jive with a seizure, though.

Anyway, I agree, get well Jiri. Not what that building full of Wings fans was hoping for tonight, I'm sure.

puck_it
11-21-2005, 08:19 PM
Thinking about it now, they mentioned that he was hooked up to a defibrillator.....so yeah, he would have needed CPR if that's true. That doesn't really jive with a seizure, though.

Anyway, I agree, get well Jiri. Not what that building full of Wings fans was hoping for tonight, I'm sure.

well, the defibrillators have idiot switches in them. if they didnt know what the hell was going on, given his past history of heart issues, i woulda thrown that thing on him to see if it went off.

puckin_A
11-21-2005, 08:21 PM
they were definitely giving him CPR when the camera scanned the area when they didn't know what was going on.

that is so scary.....

you never know what is going to happen......

the thing about seizures is it can be brain damaging and that is scary as hell. No matter how much air you are getting, the seizures can still get you.

glad he is alert and seems ok.

nccanes
11-21-2005, 08:23 PM
Lets hope Jiri is feeling well soon and is pissed at his teammates for not continuing with the game. :)

Those poor FSN guys - trying to be cautious and probably hearts racing. I didn't understand why the ice-level guy seemed to be relieved with the ambulance left the zamboni entrance - I presumed it was moving around to the locker room/player exit (as proved to be true). I guess he was nearly in shock himself.

Alicia
11-21-2005, 08:27 PM
Really strange...he had just completed a shift where NSH scored, next thing you know he's sitting on the bench with his head on the boards. Guess they didn't know anything was wrong with him until he didn't shove over?

puckin_A
11-21-2005, 08:29 PM
I think he was in shock. he kept changing the story and at one point said Juri was breathing on his own and the ambulance left by itself. I thought....there is no way they just did CPR on him and then left him. So he was a little mixed up on that one.

Turbulence
11-21-2005, 08:45 PM
Wow, that's terrifying. I really hope he can recover.
I can't begin to imagine what it would be like as a fan in the arena.

Mona
11-21-2005, 09:09 PM
I think he was in shock. he kept changing the story and at one point said Juri was breathing on his own and the ambulance left by itself. I thought....there is no way they just did CPR on him and then left him. So he was a little mixed up on that one.

You know how they hide stuff... we may not know the truth for days... Yahoo sports is reporting a seizure...

How sad.. I hope he will fully recover... after seeing Weekesy, I never want to see any of our guys ever go through that again.. :sad: :cry:

puck_it
11-21-2005, 09:10 PM
Game to be rescheduled in light of tonight's events

Jiri Fischer is in stable condition and is awake and talking after suffering a seizure during the first period of Monday night's contest against the Nashville Predators.

In light of this traumatic experience, the management, coaches, and players of both teams in communication with the National Hockey League have agreed to reschedule the rest of tonight's game at a later date.

Ticket information for the rescheduled game will be announced via print, internet, television, and all media outlets within the next 48 hours.

We thank the fans for coming and apologize for any inconveniences.

We appreciate your support for Jiri Fischer at this time.

from redwings official site.

Alicia
11-21-2005, 09:11 PM
Per the Wings official site:

Game to be rescheduled in light of tonight's events
Jiri Fischer is in stable condition and is awake and talking after suffering a seizure during the first period of Monday night's contest against the Nashville Predators.

In light of this traumatic experience, the management, coaches, and players of both teams in communication with the National Hockey League have agreed to reschedule the rest of tonight's game at a later date.

Ticket information for the rescheduled game will be announced via print, internet, television, and all media outlets within the next 48 hours.

We thank the fans for coming and apologize for any inconveniences.

We appreciate your support for Jiri Fischer at this time.


Edit: Grr!! I hate being the slowest! :mad:

Mona
11-21-2005, 09:18 PM
Edit: Grr!! I hate being the slowest! :mad:

We ALL love ya girl! :kiss:

Alicia
11-21-2005, 09:21 PM
Edit: Grr!! I hate being the slowest! :mad:

We ALL love ya girl! :kiss:

Too bad my fingers don't have wheels. :evil: thanks Monie! :kiss: ;)

SouthernHockeyChick
11-21-2005, 10:25 PM
Wings' Fischer collapses, game cancelled

Canadian Press
11/21/2005 11:12:23 PM

DETROIT (AP-CP) - Detroit Red Wings defenceman Jiri Fischer suffered a seizure and had his heart stop on the team's bench during the first period of an NHL game against the Nashville Predators on Monday night.

Fischer was given CPR at the bench by team physician Dr. Tony Colucci before the 25-year-old native of the Czech Republic was removed on a stretcher. He was taken to hospital and listed in stable condition.

"His heart was stopped," Red Wings coach Mike Babcock said. "They hooked up the auto defibrillator and shocked him."

Team spokesman John Hahn said Fischer was taken to Detroit Receiving Hospital and was stable, breathing on his own and responsive.
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"It's our understanding, the reports from the hospital, that he is fine and he will be fine," Babcock said.

Play did not resume and the game was called with 7:31 left in the first period. Nashville was leading 1-0 at the time.

Fischer was worked on by medical personnel for several minutes before being wheeled back toward the Red Wings dressing room.

Play was stopped after the Wings alerted officials to a problem on the bench. The teams were immediately sent to their dressing rooms, but some Detroit players remained near the bench and looked on while CPR was administered.

"First of all, everybody is definitely caught by surprise," Red Wings captain Steve Yzerman said. "We turn and see Jiri laying between the boards and the bench and we're not sure why.

"You fear for the guy's life at that moment. I can't remember anything like that."

Yzerman and Brendan Shanahan stayed on the ice and helped Fischer's fiancee, Avery, across the surface to be with him.

"Obviously, she was very worried and concerned. She just wanted to be next to Jiri," said Shanahan.

The decision was made to resurface the ice then, and the remaining time was to be added to the second period.

The game was later called.

"It was obvious to everybody involved that it was the right decision," Predators coach Barry Trotz said. "It was very disturbing to both sides and I think the NHL recognized it, the players recognized it. To be quite honest, the game became very secondary. When a friend or a teammate was in danger like Jiri was in, then the decision was made for everybody to reschedule it."

It was not immediately clear whether the game would be played in its entirety or resume from the point of the stoppage.

"Our primary objective is that Jiri is taken care of," Trotz said.

Fans at Joe Louis Arena were not immediately told what was happening and many were shown talking on cellphones. An in-house PA announcer later told the crowd that Fischer was "alert and responsive" more than 40 minutes after play was stopped. A loud cheer went up.

Fischer, who played for the QMJHL's Hull Olympiques, is in his sixth NHL season and won a Stanley Cup with Detroit in 2002.

He was diagnosed with a heart abnormality in September 2002, causing him to miss two days of practice. The problem was found on an electrocardiogram as part of a routine battery of tests during the Red Wings' pre-season physicals. When the result was abnormal, Fischer was given a stress test that he passed.

"There is a little abnormality, but nothing that will stop me from playing," Fischer said at the time. "It's nothing that will bother me emotionally."

He said that his heart essentially is a little thicker than normal.

"I wasn't scared about the abnormality," Fischer said. "But I was scared about not playing hockey again. That was a shock for me."

Night Train
11-21-2005, 10:43 PM
Glad he seems to be OK.

apolinar
11-21-2005, 11:32 PM
Now would be a great time for the NHL to recommend that EVERYBODY get CPR trained throught the American heart Association. Everyone there just witnessed how CPR training can save a life, and that even the healthy athletes may need your help. Yeah, the doctor was there to do the right thing, but I've seen situations where even the doctor freaked and didn't do his ABC's and didn't know the first thing about automated defibrillators.

As for Fischer, I think the heart stopped first and then the seizure happened from lack of oxygen to his brain. But then I'm just guessing.
SHC you better be up to date because folks will look to you in that situation as a pharm D!

SouthernHockeyChick
11-22-2005, 07:26 AM
As for Fischer, I think the heart stopped first and then the seizure happened from lack of oxygen to his brain. That's what I was thinking, too. That's about the only way a seizure makes sense along with the rest of it. He is extremely lucky if he's truely OK.

SHC you better be up to date because folks will look to you in that situation as a pharm D!

We get certified every year. The defibrillators are idiot proof so that's cake but the CPR.....that's a freakin' other story. I sure hope I never have to do it. Physically, it seems like it would be like running a marathon. I can't imagine having to do it for an extended period of time.

I always wonder when players have something like this and they've had heart problems in the past (sounds like he's got some cardiomyopathy to me)....did they really make a sound decision to keep playing? Or did their "it'll never happen to me" mentality take over? Scary.

apolinar
11-22-2005, 09:04 AM
SHC:I can't imagine having to do it for an extended period of time.


My worst experience: CPR on a 400 pound naked man about to be discharged from a psychiatric ward who collapsed in the shower (a tiny hospital shower at that) Where he was leaned against the shower heads and he was so slippery we couldn't lift him off the shower heads to turn off the shower to safely defibrillate him without shocking 5 other people at the same time. So until something could be figured out, I had to get in the shower with him and do chest compressions and bag breath him while he was against the wall while water was running all the while. Finally the male assistants came and were able to take his legs and pull him down slowly so he could lie flat and we could do what we needed without putting a jolt through all of us. (10 people responded to the emergency, only I could do anything in the shower with the 400 pound man. Those of you who have met me know my Marty St. Louis frame could get in there with him. Not that I wanted to at the time

apolinar
11-22-2005, 09:07 AM
Oh, forgot to add that when I got there I did my ABC's: A=airway. Checked his airway and there was a whole ham sandwich in his mouth.

So the fitting question is... why would a man have a ham sandwich in his mouth while showering?

caveman
11-22-2005, 09:16 AM
The effects of the seizure were exascerbated by his seated position. As your blood pressure drops to nothing, the blood drains right out of your head, you go white. He couldn't even fall to the ground. It's amazing that he's okay, the quick reactions on the bench no doubt saved at least his brain from severe damage if not his life entirely.

Turbulence
11-22-2005, 11:13 AM
So the fitting question is... why would a man have a ham sandwich in his mouth while showering?

If you've never eaten ham while taking a shower, you haven't lived. That's what I say.

corylav
11-22-2005, 11:19 AM
Kramer used to wash his veggies in his shower :laugh:

Alicia
11-22-2005, 01:05 PM
Wings' Fischer doing well in hospital


Canadian Press

11/22/2005 1:39:21 PM

DETROIT (CP) - Red Wings defenceman Jiri Fischer was doing well in hospital Tuesday, but there was no immediate word on what triggered his collapse.

More testing needs to be done on Fischer to determine why the 25-year-old's heart stopped on the Wings bench during Monday's game against Nashville, team doctor Tony Colucci said Tuesday during a news conference.

"There's no way to speculate what triggered it," Colucci said. "Everything appears to be well right now. All his tests are coming back within normal limits."

Fischer suffered a convulsion and his heart stopped. Team doctors and medical staff revived him with CPR and an auto defibrillator before he was taken to hospital.


"When anybody's heart stops or they stop breathing, I always have a concern that they may not come back," Colucci said.


The game was postponed and has yet to be rescheduled.

"There was no interest in our locker-room in playing that game last night," Wings GM Ken Holland said.

Fischer was diagnosed with a heart abnormality in September 2002, causing him to miss two days of practice. He said at the time it wasn't anything that would prevent him from playing.

Holland said U.S. federal law prevented the team from commenting on Fischer's medical history.

Colucci said he met with Fischer in the morning.

"He was in great spirits," Colucci said. "He was actually cracking some jokes."

Mona
11-22-2005, 01:08 PM
He is veryyyyyyy lucky. :sad: Wonder if he got dehydrated? Could that cause the convulsion?

Guyute
11-22-2005, 01:22 PM
verrrrrry lucky indeed. glad to hear his tests are coming back well.

ONeillsNo1Fan
11-22-2005, 01:27 PM
I'm so happy that he's doing better. I saw a few clips on the news and couldn't believe it. :sad:

RIO
11-22-2005, 01:54 PM
SHC:I can't imagine having to do it for an extended period of time.


My worst experience: CPR on a 400 pound naked man about to be discharged from a psychiatric ward who collapsed in the shower (a tiny hospital shower at that) Where he was leaned against the shower heads and he was so slippery we couldn't lift him off the shower heads to turn off the shower to safely defibrillate him without shocking 5 other people at the same time. So until something could be figured out, I had to get in the shower with him and do chest compressions and bag breath him while he was against the wall while water was running all the while. Finally the male assistants came and were able to take his legs and pull him down slowly so he could lie flat and we could do what we needed without putting a jolt through all of us. (10 people responded to the emergency, only I could do anything in the shower with the 400 pound man. Those of you who have met me know my Marty St. Louis frame could get in there with him. Not that I wanted to at the time

Arthur, you're incredible. I'm admiring you and you can't stop me.

Mona
11-22-2005, 02:03 PM
I wanted to ask if the guy made it but I was afraid to. :sad:

Staalgurl4ever
11-22-2005, 03:12 PM
Glad to here that he's getting better. It makes me sad to events see sporting events and see the athlete go down and have to get taken away by ambulance. :cry:

IceSaber
11-22-2005, 03:28 PM
I was impressed by the players and how they handled it...and when you talk about a Captain - I'm sorry, is my 18 yr crush on Stevie Y showing - Yzerman handled himself so well and when he and (was it? ) Shanahan took the stetcher from the ambulance crew and skated it across the ice, I nearly teared up...

nccanes
11-22-2005, 10:17 PM
Um.... Is this not Joe Vasicek? Not Fischer?

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20051122/capt.sge.htd62.221105205000.photo00.photo.default-270x383.jpg
Detroit Red Wings defenseman Jiri Fischer, seen here in April 2005, was in good condition and recovering well in hospital after collapsing on the bench during a National Hockey League game.

(Photo from Yahoo Sports)

SoCalcaniac
11-22-2005, 10:43 PM
OMG E! Holy Crap- I guess they figure- all those Czechs look the same???? Yikes- how would you like to be Big Joe seeing his mug plastered all over the place with captions about him 'having a seizure during a game'??? Oh my.... :crazy:

puck_it
11-22-2005, 11:51 PM
OMG E! Holy Crap- I guess they figure- all those Czechs look the same???? Yikes- how would you like to be Big Joe seeing his mug plastered all over the place with captions about him 'having a seizure during a game'??? Oh my.... :crazy:

well, at least it isnt getting the wrong race... espn is famos for doing that to nc state basketball photos

nccanes
11-23-2005, 06:02 AM
Nice article about the Canes connections to Fischer.

I didn't realize Vrbata lost his Dad so recently. He had to be pretty young.

And leave it to Ward to inject humor. Does he ever say anything that doesn't make me laugh?

By CHRIS STEVENSON, OTTAWA SUN

RALEIGH, N.C. -- Radim Vrbata looked at what happened to his good friend Jiri Fischer Monday night and wondered:

"What if he had been alone? What if he had been driving in his car?"

Those were tough questions for the Carolina Hurricanes winger yesterday.

"It could have happened anywhere. He's lucky it happened during a game. If it had happened somewhere else, it could have been a lot worse."

Fischer, the Detroit Red Wings defenceman, suffered a seizure and had his heart stop during the game against the Nashville Predators, but was revived on the bench.

"It's scary to see it happen to anybody in the league, but when it's someone you know ..." said Vrbata. "I'm happy he's doing well and happy everything is going to be okay."

Vrbata said he went on a Czech website yesterday morning and read an interview with Fischer's father, who said his son is "in good spirits."

Fischer played a huge role in Vrbata's life when Vrbata was a rookie with the Hull Olympiques in 1998-99.

"I couldn't speak any English so for the first couple of months, everything went through him," said Vrbata. "We were really close. We don't talk to each other every day, but we always check and see how the other guy is doing."

They have remained friends and played together with Liberec in the Czech league during the NHL lockout last year.

"My dad died two years ago of a heart attack, so I know what can happen," said Vrbata. "One second and everything changes."

Hear and There:

Fischer, then a rookie, lived at the home of Hurricanes D Aaron Ward when both were with the Wings. Ward was having a hard time believing a guy in such incredible shape could have health issues like Fischer has had. "I had to have the no-shirt rule in the house," said Ward yesterday. "He wasn't allowed to be shirtless in the house. The kid's built like a Greek god. I didn't want my wife seeing that. One day he was sitting at the computer with no shirt on and I'm like, 'Hey, Jiri, you know the rule!' "

THE BUZZ: Senators coach Bryan Murray showed the team a video before the game pointing out the lazy stick penalties they've been taking. So what happens? W Dany Heatley gets called for tripping in the offensive zone less than three minutes into the game. Oops ... 'Canes rookie Eric Staal has turned heads with his offensive numbers, but don't overlook the strength of his two-way game. He's a team-leading +9 this year and led the AHL (+37) last year.

Staalgurl4ever
11-23-2005, 10:08 AM
If you were watching SportsCenter this morning they were talking to New England Patriots linebacker Teddy Bruschi and they were asking about what happend with Jiri Fischer and how it made him feel and he said it's hard for things to happen to athletes like that.

Mona
11-23-2005, 10:55 AM
That is cute about Aaron making him wear a shirt.. :)

I am glad he had medical personnel right there.. otherwise, the outcome wouldn't have been good... :(( Glad he is doing ok...

Alicia
11-23-2005, 01:33 PM
10:26 PM EST, 11/22/2005
Red Wings keep thoughts with Fischer, prepare for Colorado


DETROIT (AP) - The Red Wings were back on the ice on Tuesday, but their thoughts were with teammate Jiri Fisher, who collapsed on the bench the night before and was revived with help from a defibrillator.

The team was practicing for its Wednesday home game against Colorado, while Fischer's equipment and jersey hung in his dressing area - a reminder of the player who remained hospitalized and was undergoing tests.




"We were all at the rink today, talking about it," Kris Draper said. "For us, it's not going to be easy. The next time you walk in and see Fisch's stall, guys are going to have some pretty uncomfortable memories.

"It's something that we have to do. We just have to step up and play hockey."

Red Wings general manager Ken Holland and team physician Tony Colucci, who performed CPR on Fischer after he collapsed Monday night, said the player was "in good spirits." Colucci visited Fischer at the hospital Tuesday.

"He's actually cracking some jokes," Colucci said during a news conference at Joe Louis Arena. "Everything appears to be well right now."

The 25-year-old Fischer was in good condition after he began having convulsions on the bench late in the first period against the Nashville Predators. Colucci wasn't able to detect a pulse after Fischer collapsed, and an auto defibrillator was used on the player.

After performing CPR, Colucci said he detected a good pulse and Fischer was taken out of the arena by ambulance to Detroit Receiving Hospital. Colucci said Fischer's heart might have stopped, but he didn't know for how long.

Fischer's blood pressure and heart rate were stable by the time he arrived at the hospital.

"There's no way to speculate on what triggered it," Colucci said.

The team announced to the crowd Monday night that Fischer had a seizure, but Red Wings coach Mike Babcock later said Fischer's heart had stopped.

On Tuesday, Colucci said the defibrillator indicated that Fischer's heart may have been experiencing ventricular tachycardia, which is a racing type of heartbeat, or ventricular fibrillation, a heart fluttering.

Both can cause death, and ventricular fibrillation is a common cause of sudden cardiac arrest.

When asked how long Fischer's heart had stopped, Colucci said: "Sometimes when you're feeling for a pulse you can't really say did it stop, or does he have a very weak, thready pulse."

Colucci said he didn't know when Fischer could play again or how long he will remain in the hospital. He many things could have caused Fischer's collapse, but he believed the problem was "cardiac in origin."

"We're going to evaluate him on a daily basis," he said.

Players and Babcock said their thoughts remained with Fischer as they prepared to play the Avalanche on Wednesday.

"You just think about how bad Jiri Fischer would like to be playing hockey," Babcock said. "We have that chance. We better make good on that chance."

Kirk Maltby said Fischer knows his teammates are thinking about him as they try to stay focused.

"Unfortunately, the world keeps going and things keep going on," Maltby said. "But obviously everyone's still thinking about Fisch."

The team said Red Wings fans showed an outpouring of support. Instead of flowers, the team asked for donations to the Children's Hospital of Michigan Wish Club and offered the chance to sign large get well cards.

Fischer was diagnosed with a heart abnormality in September 2002, causing him to miss two days of practice. The problem was found on an electrocardiogram as part of a routine battery of tests during the Red Wings' preseason physicals.

Colucci said Tuesday that tests were being conducted to determine whether the convulsions were related to the abnormality. When the 2002 result came back, Fischer was given a stress test that he passed and he said his heart essentially is a little thicker than normal.

Team owner Mike Ilitch, teammates, and coaches visited the Czech Republic native in small groups Monday night in the hospital. Others from the club visited him on Tuesday.

Play was stopped with 7:30 left in the first period Monday after the Red Wings alerted officials to a problem. Medical personnel worked on Fischer at the door to the bench for several minutes before he was wheeled back toward the Red Wings dressing room.

Holland said Red Wings management consulted with the players, the Predators and the NHL and made the decision to postpone the game.

Holland said it hasn't yet been decided when the game will be played.

corylav
11-30-2005, 11:58 AM
oh man ...

Another scare for Fischer

Sportsnet.ca -- Jiri Fischer of the Red Wings was released from a Detroit hospital Wednesday after undergoing further testing and observation.

The defenceman had returned to the Detroit Medical Center after experiencing a brief, abnormal cardiac rhythm while resting at home this past Monday eveing. He is scheduled to undergo further testing at the University of Michigan Medical Center.

The 25-year-old Czech collapsed and went into convulsions in the first period of a game November 21 against Nashville. Team physician Dr. Tony Colucci wasn't able to detect a pulse after Fischer collapsed, and an auto defibrillator was used on the player.

After performing CPR, Colucci said he detected a good pulse and Fischer was taken out of the arena by ambulance to Detroit Receiving Hospital. The game was postponed.

Colucci said Fischer's heart might have stopped, but he didn't know for how long.

Fischer's blood pressure and heart rate were stable by the time he arrived at the hospital.

The exact cause of Fischer's collapse was not known, but Colucci said on Tuesday the defibrillator indicated that Fischer's heart may have been experiencing ventricular tachycardia, a kind of racing heartbeat, or ventricular fibrillation, a heart fluttering.

Both can cause death, and ventricular fibrillation is a common cause of sudden cardiac arrest.

Fischer was diagnosed with a heart abnormality in 2002, causing him to miss two days of practice. When the 2002 result came back, Fischer was given a stress test that he passed, and he said his heart essentially is a little thicker than normal.

Alicia
11-30-2005, 12:14 PM
Wow... :sad:

SouthernHockeyChick
11-30-2005, 02:45 PM
Man, that's just awful.

puck_it
11-30-2005, 05:44 PM
:( how sad

ONeillsNo1Fan
11-30-2005, 06:55 PM
Poor guy...

Lady J
11-30-2005, 08:24 PM
That's really scary. God Bless him.

Solracer
11-30-2005, 09:24 PM
Evne though I am sure this is secondary to his health I would say his Hockey Carreer is over, unless thier is something they find that could be fixed with surgery ala Tedddy brusci.

puck_it
12-12-2005, 04:39 PM
pretty f'in ballsy

DETROIT (CP) - Detroit Red Wings defenceman Jiri Fischer says he feels lucky to be alive and hopes to resume his hockey career in the future.

Fischer could barely contain his emotions Monday as he spoke to the media for the first time since Nov. 21 when he collapsed on the team's bench during a game against Nashville. He often choked back tears and needed several breaks to compose himself.

''I don't forsee myself coming back in the next couple weeks, but this is what I know,'' he said of his future. ''This is what I've worked for my whole life. And I don't want it to be taken away.''

Fischer was reluctant to talk about whether or not his career could be over but he did say he hopes he can return to the ice ''one day.''

''It obviously comes down to if someone will let you play in the NHL after something like this happens,'' he said. ''But with today's technology and today's medicine, I think there's a lot of great things. There's a lot of areas that are undiscovered.''



He said he has been in and out of the hospital for the past three weeks for testing and monitoring. He will undergo more tests over the next couple of months, according to team physician Dr. Tony Colucci.

After Fischer collapsed and went into convulsions, Colucci wasn't able to detect a pulse and an auto defibrillator was used on the 25-year-old Czech. He was then taken to hospital, where he stayed for two days before he was released. Fischer said he doesn't remember much about the episode.

But he says it has given him a new lease on life.

''I get up every day and I live,'' he said. ''It doesn't matter how but you live. Everybody says you should live to your fullest. But what is it? No one knows until you come so close that you're not worried about anything else but being alive.

puck_it
12-12-2005, 04:39 PM
pretty f'in ballsy

DETROIT (CP) - Detroit Red Wings defenceman Jiri Fischer says he feels lucky to be alive and hopes to resume his hockey career in the future.

Fischer could barely contain his emotions Monday as he spoke to the media for the first time since Nov. 21 when he collapsed on the team's bench during a game against Nashville. He often choked back tears and needed several breaks to compose himself.

''I don't forsee myself coming back in the next couple weeks, but this is what I know,'' he said of his future. ''This is what I've worked for my whole life. And I don't want it to be taken away.''

Fischer was reluctant to talk about whether or not his career could be over but he did say he hopes he can return to the ice ''one day.''

''It obviously comes down to if someone will let you play in the NHL after something like this happens,'' he said. ''But with today's technology and today's medicine, I think there's a lot of great things. There's a lot of areas that are undiscovered.''



He said he has been in and out of the hospital for the past three weeks for testing and monitoring. He will undergo more tests over the next couple of months, according to team physician Dr. Tony Colucci.

After Fischer collapsed and went into convulsions, Colucci wasn't able to detect a pulse and an auto defibrillator was used on the 25-year-old Czech. He was then taken to hospital, where he stayed for two days before he was released. Fischer said he doesn't remember much about the episode.

But he says it has given him a new lease on life.

''I get up every day and I live,'' he said. ''It doesn't matter how but you live. Everybody says you should live to your fullest. But what is it? No one knows until you come so close that you're not worried about anything else but being alive.

puck_it
12-12-2005, 04:39 PM
pretty f'in ballsy

DETROIT (CP) - Detroit Red Wings defenceman Jiri Fischer says he feels lucky to be alive and hopes to resume his hockey career in the future.

Fischer could barely contain his emotions Monday as he spoke to the media for the first time since Nov. 21 when he collapsed on the team's bench during a game against Nashville. He often choked back tears and needed several breaks to compose himself.

''I don't forsee myself coming back in the next couple weeks, but this is what I know,'' he said of his future. ''This is what I've worked for my whole life. And I don't want it to be taken away.''

Fischer was reluctant to talk about whether or not his career could be over but he did say he hopes he can return to the ice ''one day.''

''It obviously comes down to if someone will let you play in the NHL after something like this happens,'' he said. ''But with today's technology and today's medicine, I think there's a lot of great things. There's a lot of areas that are undiscovered.''



He said he has been in and out of the hospital for the past three weeks for testing and monitoring. He will undergo more tests over the next couple of months, according to team physician Dr. Tony Colucci.

After Fischer collapsed and went into convulsions, Colucci wasn't able to detect a pulse and an auto defibrillator was used on the 25-year-old Czech. He was then taken to hospital, where he stayed for two days before he was released. Fischer said he doesn't remember much about the episode.

But he says it has given him a new lease on life.

''I get up every day and I live,'' he said. ''It doesn't matter how but you live. Everybody says you should live to your fullest. But what is it? No one knows until you come so close that you're not worried about anything else but being alive.

Alicia
12-12-2005, 04:49 PM
I'd love for him to be able to play again one day, but certainly not at the expense of his life.

Alicia
12-12-2005, 04:49 PM
I'd love for him to be able to play again one day, but certainly not at the expense of his life.

Alicia
12-12-2005, 04:49 PM
I'd love for him to be able to play again one day, but certainly not at the expense of his life.