View Full Version : Jeremy Roenick is a bonehead....or not...Thread
agentpreppie
12-20-2005, 10:13 AM
How could they not include Hedican? He's one of the best US defensemen playing this season. Putting in Jordan Leopold ahead of Hedican is a travesty. The guy has 4 assists, no goals and is a +8. Hedican has 3 goals, 7 assists and is also a +8. He would also add some more veteran leadership on that blueline and is IMHO a better overall defensemen as far as skating and positional play is concerned.
Now for the Roenick comment. Not sure if anyone else saw this qoute:
"I know nobody on that team has more points in the National Hockey League than me. So if they want to go that way, good luck," Roenick said
That's a complete BS statement. Current season he has 13 points. Cole has almost that number of goals. Same for Modano. Gionta has 18 GOALS. So lets take into account, may he's liking lifetime. Again, he's wrong. Right now he's at 1133, Modano is at 1137.
agentpreppie
12-20-2005, 10:13 AM
How could they not include Hedican? He's one of the best US defensemen playing this season. Putting in Jordan Leopold ahead of Hedican is a travesty. The guy has 4 assists, no goals and is a +8. Hedican has 3 goals, 7 assists and is also a +8. He would also add some more veteran leadership on that blueline and is IMHO a better overall defensemen as far as skating and positional play is concerned.
Now for the Roenick comment. Not sure if anyone else saw this qoute:
"I know nobody on that team has more points in the National Hockey League than me. So if they want to go that way, good luck," Roenick said
That's a complete BS statement. Current season he has 13 points. Cole has almost that number of goals. Same for Modano. Gionta has 18 GOALS. So lets take into account, may he's liking lifetime. Again, he's wrong. Right now he's at 1133, Modano is at 1137.
agentpreppie
12-20-2005, 10:13 AM
How could they not include Hedican? He's one of the best US defensemen playing this season. Putting in Jordan Leopold ahead of Hedican is a travesty. The guy has 4 assists, no goals and is a +8. Hedican has 3 goals, 7 assists and is also a +8. He would also add some more veteran leadership on that blueline and is IMHO a better overall defensemen as far as skating and positional play is concerned.
Now for the Roenick comment. Not sure if anyone else saw this qoute:
"I know nobody on that team has more points in the National Hockey League than me. So if they want to go that way, good luck," Roenick said
That's a complete BS statement. Current season he has 13 points. Cole has almost that number of goals. Same for Modano. Gionta has 18 GOALS. So lets take into account, may he's liking lifetime. Again, he's wrong. Right now he's at 1133, Modano is at 1137.
SouthernHockeyChick
12-20-2005, 10:23 AM
Now for the Roenick comment. Not sure if anyone else saw this qoute:
"I know nobody on that team has more points in the National Hockey League than me. So if they want to go that way, good luck," Roenick said
That's a complete BS statement.
That's how you know he's joking.
I wonder if Hedican might have said he didn't want to go? Didn't he decline the last Olympics? Otherwise, it's total crap.
SouthernHockeyChick
12-20-2005, 10:23 AM
Now for the Roenick comment. Not sure if anyone else saw this qoute:
"I know nobody on that team has more points in the National Hockey League than me. So if they want to go that way, good luck," Roenick said
That's a complete BS statement.
That's how you know he's joking.
I wonder if Hedican might have said he didn't want to go? Didn't he decline the last Olympics? Otherwise, it's total crap.
SouthernHockeyChick
12-20-2005, 10:23 AM
Now for the Roenick comment. Not sure if anyone else saw this qoute:
"I know nobody on that team has more points in the National Hockey League than me. So if they want to go that way, good luck," Roenick said
That's a complete BS statement.
That's how you know he's joking.
I wonder if Hedican might have said he didn't want to go? Didn't he decline the last Olympics? Otherwise, it's total crap.
corylav
12-20-2005, 12:43 PM
Now for the Roenick comment. Not sure if anyone else saw this qoute:
"I know nobody on that team has more points in the National Hockey League than me. So if they want to go that way, good luck," Roenick said
I think he means career-wise ... but even if he meant that, Modano's passed him this season
:sick: to you, Jeremy ...
corylav
12-20-2005, 12:43 PM
Now for the Roenick comment. Not sure if anyone else saw this qoute:
"I know nobody on that team has more points in the National Hockey League than me. So if they want to go that way, good luck," Roenick said
I think he means career-wise ... but even if he meant that, Modano's passed him this season
:sick: to you, Jeremy ...
corylav
12-20-2005, 12:43 PM
Now for the Roenick comment. Not sure if anyone else saw this qoute:
"I know nobody on that team has more points in the National Hockey League than me. So if they want to go that way, good luck," Roenick said
I think he means career-wise ... but even if he meant that, Modano's passed him this season
:sick: to you, Jeremy ...
Esbee
12-20-2005, 01:07 PM
Now for the Roenick comment. Not sure if anyone else saw this qoute:
"I know nobody on that team has more points in the National Hockey League than me. So if they want to go that way, good luck," Roenick said
I think he means career-wise ... but even if he meant that, Modano's passed him this season
:sick: to you, Jeremy ...
Not that we'd expect less from him, but the fact that JR would say that, along with his past comments insisting that he should be part of the team, pretty much point out why he isn't on the team. First, his performance this season hasn't earned him a spot on the team. Second, his mouth isn't something Lavi is going to put up with on the team.
Suck on a puck, JR.
Esbee
12-20-2005, 01:07 PM
Now for the Roenick comment. Not sure if anyone else saw this qoute:
"I know nobody on that team has more points in the National Hockey League than me. So if they want to go that way, good luck," Roenick said
I think he means career-wise ... but even if he meant that, Modano's passed him this season
:sick: to you, Jeremy ...
Not that we'd expect less from him, but the fact that JR would say that, along with his past comments insisting that he should be part of the team, pretty much point out why he isn't on the team. First, his performance this season hasn't earned him a spot on the team. Second, his mouth isn't something Lavi is going to put up with on the team.
Suck on a puck, JR.
Esbee
12-20-2005, 01:07 PM
Now for the Roenick comment. Not sure if anyone else saw this qoute:
"I know nobody on that team has more points in the National Hockey League than me. So if they want to go that way, good luck," Roenick said
I think he means career-wise ... but even if he meant that, Modano's passed him this season
:sick: to you, Jeremy ...
Not that we'd expect less from him, but the fact that JR would say that, along with his past comments insisting that he should be part of the team, pretty much point out why he isn't on the team. First, his performance this season hasn't earned him a spot on the team. Second, his mouth isn't something Lavi is going to put up with on the team.
Suck on a puck, JR.
corylav
12-20-2005, 01:13 PM
I like JR, too ... always have. But in something as team-driven as a short Olympic tournament, who wants to deal with someone whose biggest concern is clearly, "What about me?"
corylav
12-20-2005, 01:13 PM
I like JR, too ... always have. But in something as team-driven as a short Olympic tournament, who wants to deal with someone whose biggest concern is clearly, "What about me?"
corylav
12-20-2005, 01:13 PM
I like JR, too ... always have. But in something as team-driven as a short Olympic tournament, who wants to deal with someone whose biggest concern is clearly, "What about me?"
caniac369
12-20-2005, 01:27 PM
Roenick is a jack@ss. :fire: No matter how he may play, I, as an American, would not want him representing my country.
Hedican would have been a great addition to the team, not only with his ability but his Olympic experiance. But, maybe he did decline for the aforementioned reasons (Baby, pushing luck with injury, etc.).
Would have been awesome rooting for two of our guys, but I'm happy Cole made it. Yeah!! :nanner:
caniac369
12-20-2005, 01:27 PM
Roenick is a jack@ss. :fire: No matter how he may play, I, as an American, would not want him representing my country.
Hedican would have been a great addition to the team, not only with his ability but his Olympic experiance. But, maybe he did decline for the aforementioned reasons (Baby, pushing luck with injury, etc.).
Would have been awesome rooting for two of our guys, but I'm happy Cole made it. Yeah!! :nanner:
caniac369
12-20-2005, 01:27 PM
Roenick is a jack@ss. :fire: No matter how he may play, I, as an American, would not want him representing my country.
Hedican would have been a great addition to the team, not only with his ability but his Olympic experiance. But, maybe he did decline for the aforementioned reasons (Baby, pushing luck with injury, etc.).
Would have been awesome rooting for two of our guys, but I'm happy Cole made it. Yeah!! :nanner:
SouthernHockeyChick
12-20-2005, 01:33 PM
Oh how I'd hoped this thread would remain a celebration of our Olympic team rather than degenerating into another "we hate JR" thread.
He has always said exactly what was on his mind. What's on his mind now is that he wants to play for his country and he believes he has something to contribute. OMG, he wants to play and is pissed off he's not going to get to. Let's just lynch him.
He's not on the team so everyone can quit worrying about him.
SouthernHockeyChick
12-20-2005, 01:33 PM
Oh how I'd hoped this thread would remain a celebration of our Olympic team rather than degenerating into another "we hate JR" thread.
He has always said exactly what was on his mind. What's on his mind now is that he wants to play for his country and he believes he has something to contribute. OMG, he wants to play and is pissed off he's not going to get to. Let's just lynch him.
He's not on the team so everyone can quit worrying about him.
SouthernHockeyChick
12-20-2005, 01:33 PM
Oh how I'd hoped this thread would remain a celebration of our Olympic team rather than degenerating into another "we hate JR" thread.
He has always said exactly what was on his mind. What's on his mind now is that he wants to play for his country and he believes he has something to contribute. OMG, he wants to play and is pissed off he's not going to get to. Let's just lynch him.
He's not on the team so everyone can quit worrying about him.
Alicia
12-20-2005, 01:46 PM
Oh how I'd hoped this thread would remain a celebration of our Olympic team rather than degenerating into another "we hate JR" thread.
He has always said exactly what was on his mind. What's on his mind now is that he wants to play for his country and he believes he has something to contribute. OMG, he wants to play and is pissed off he's not going to get to. Let's just lynch him.
He's not on the team so everyone can quit worrying about him.
At least we now know, you either love him (like you & I & a few others do) or you don't...doesn't seem to be much, if any, middle ground.
Alicia
12-20-2005, 01:46 PM
Oh how I'd hoped this thread would remain a celebration of our Olympic team rather than degenerating into another "we hate JR" thread.
He has always said exactly what was on his mind. What's on his mind now is that he wants to play for his country and he believes he has something to contribute. OMG, he wants to play and is pissed off he's not going to get to. Let's just lynch him.
He's not on the team so everyone can quit worrying about him.
At least we now know, you either love him (like you & I & a few others do) or you don't...doesn't seem to be much, if any, middle ground.
Alicia
12-20-2005, 01:46 PM
Oh how I'd hoped this thread would remain a celebration of our Olympic team rather than degenerating into another "we hate JR" thread.
He has always said exactly what was on his mind. What's on his mind now is that he wants to play for his country and he believes he has something to contribute. OMG, he wants to play and is pissed off he's not going to get to. Let's just lynch him.
He's not on the team so everyone can quit worrying about him.
At least we now know, you either love him (like you & I & a few others do) or you don't...doesn't seem to be much, if any, middle ground.
StormShaman
12-20-2005, 02:49 PM
I like JR, but there are times (like this) when I just want to slap him upside his fool head and holler "SHUT UP, YOU WHINY LITTLE *****!"
:beatup:
StormShaman
12-20-2005, 02:49 PM
I like JR, but there are times (like this) when I just want to slap him upside his fool head and holler "SHUT UP, YOU WHINY LITTLE *****!"
:beatup:
StormShaman
12-20-2005, 02:49 PM
I like JR, but there are times (like this) when I just want to slap him upside his fool head and holler "SHUT UP, YOU WHINY LITTLE *****!"
:beatup:
tommy
12-20-2005, 03:13 PM
I am one of the few people who takes the middle ground, because I'm honestly at the point where I don't automatically take it for granted that he's just kidding/not serious. It comes off as very disingenuous, but at the same time I'm thinking "Did he actually mean what he just said?"
0 points in the last what, 7 games, though? Not Olympic calibre to me...
tommy
12-20-2005, 03:13 PM
I am one of the few people who takes the middle ground, because I'm honestly at the point where I don't automatically take it for granted that he's just kidding/not serious. It comes off as very disingenuous, but at the same time I'm thinking "Did he actually mean what he just said?"
0 points in the last what, 7 games, though? Not Olympic calibre to me...
tommy
12-20-2005, 03:13 PM
I am one of the few people who takes the middle ground, because I'm honestly at the point where I don't automatically take it for granted that he's just kidding/not serious. It comes off as very disingenuous, but at the same time I'm thinking "Did he actually mean what he just said?"
0 points in the last what, 7 games, though? Not Olympic calibre to me...
nccanes
12-20-2005, 03:31 PM
JR wears his heart on his sleeve and doesn't edit himself.
He's said things before (like when he dogged the NHLPA and then retracted) that he's regretted.
I guess I know enough people that are like this - inability to self edit or think before they speak - that I can just shrug at this. He does not have the tact that Kevyn Adams has - he never will. But Kevyn Adams won't every disco dance either. ;)
I don't expect him to pull for Canada come February. If he does, then screw him. ;)
nccanes
12-20-2005, 03:31 PM
JR wears his heart on his sleeve and doesn't edit himself.
He's said things before (like when he dogged the NHLPA and then retracted) that he's regretted.
I guess I know enough people that are like this - inability to self edit or think before they speak - that I can just shrug at this. He does not have the tact that Kevyn Adams has - he never will. But Kevyn Adams won't every disco dance either. ;)
I don't expect him to pull for Canada come February. If he does, then screw him. ;)
nccanes
12-20-2005, 03:31 PM
JR wears his heart on his sleeve and doesn't edit himself.
He's said things before (like when he dogged the NHLPA and then retracted) that he's regretted.
I guess I know enough people that are like this - inability to self edit or think before they speak - that I can just shrug at this. He does not have the tact that Kevyn Adams has - he never will. But Kevyn Adams won't every disco dance either. ;)
I don't expect him to pull for Canada come February. If he does, then screw him. ;)
puck_it
12-20-2005, 03:43 PM
Oh how I'd hoped this thread would remain a celebration of our Olympic team rather than degenerating into another "we hate JR" thread.
He has always said exactly what was on his mind. What's on his mind now is that he wants to play for his country and he believes he has something to contribute. OMG, he wants to play and is pissed off he's not going to get to. Let's just lynch him.
He's not on the team so everyone can quit worrying about him.
i agree...
puck_it
12-20-2005, 03:43 PM
Oh how I'd hoped this thread would remain a celebration of our Olympic team rather than degenerating into another "we hate JR" thread.
He has always said exactly what was on his mind. What's on his mind now is that he wants to play for his country and he believes he has something to contribute. OMG, he wants to play and is pissed off he's not going to get to. Let's just lynch him.
He's not on the team so everyone can quit worrying about him.
i agree...
puck_it
12-20-2005, 03:43 PM
Oh how I'd hoped this thread would remain a celebration of our Olympic team rather than degenerating into another "we hate JR" thread.
He has always said exactly what was on his mind. What's on his mind now is that he wants to play for his country and he believes he has something to contribute. OMG, he wants to play and is pissed off he's not going to get to. Let's just lynch him.
He's not on the team so everyone can quit worrying about him.
i agree...
SouthernHockeyChick
12-20-2005, 03:45 PM
Yay for bonehead JR getting his own thread! :beatup:
SouthernHockeyChick
12-20-2005, 03:45 PM
Yay for bonehead JR getting his own thread! :beatup:
SouthernHockeyChick
12-20-2005, 03:45 PM
Yay for bonehead JR getting his own thread! :beatup:
caniac369
12-20-2005, 03:50 PM
:laugh: :sick:
caniac369
12-20-2005, 03:50 PM
:laugh: :sick:
caniac369
12-20-2005, 03:50 PM
:laugh: :sick:
Esbee
12-20-2005, 03:58 PM
File this under ironic moot argument...
TSN.ca Staff
12/20/2005 3:17:15 PM
Jeremy Roenick's disappointing season has taken another bad turn. Roenick told TSN on Tuesday that he broke a finger while blocking a shot last night against Vancouver and he expects to miss four to six weeks of action.
Roenick's tough season was highlighted by his omission from the U.S. Olympic team roster, which was announced yesterday. Roenick appeared to use the rejection as motivation, as he broke an eight-game pointless drought with a goal and an assist in the Kings 4-3 win over the Canucks.
But Roenick broke the ring finger on his left hand blocking a shot in the second period, and he told that the injury would sideline him for at least a month.
Ironically, the injury likely would have kept him out of the February Olympics had he been selected for Team USA. Before getting hurt, however, Roenick said he thought American officials would choose him for the Turin Games out of respect for his previous tenures with the team.
"To not have the opportunity to go back one more time and try and win the gold is obviously, in my opinion, very disrespectful," said Roenick, who has 1,133 points in 1,156 career regular season games. "They can beat me down and say I'm over the hill or say that I don't have it anymore, but to me I know that I do."
Roenick has only five goals and 11 points in 31 games with the Kings this season. Despite his offensive struggles, the Kings are tied for first in the Pacific Division. The Kings play the Flames in Calgary on Wednesday night.
Esbee
12-20-2005, 03:58 PM
File this under ironic moot argument...
TSN.ca Staff
12/20/2005 3:17:15 PM
Jeremy Roenick's disappointing season has taken another bad turn. Roenick told TSN on Tuesday that he broke a finger while blocking a shot last night against Vancouver and he expects to miss four to six weeks of action.
Roenick's tough season was highlighted by his omission from the U.S. Olympic team roster, which was announced yesterday. Roenick appeared to use the rejection as motivation, as he broke an eight-game pointless drought with a goal and an assist in the Kings 4-3 win over the Canucks.
But Roenick broke the ring finger on his left hand blocking a shot in the second period, and he told that the injury would sideline him for at least a month.
Ironically, the injury likely would have kept him out of the February Olympics had he been selected for Team USA. Before getting hurt, however, Roenick said he thought American officials would choose him for the Turin Games out of respect for his previous tenures with the team.
"To not have the opportunity to go back one more time and try and win the gold is obviously, in my opinion, very disrespectful," said Roenick, who has 1,133 points in 1,156 career regular season games. "They can beat me down and say I'm over the hill or say that I don't have it anymore, but to me I know that I do."
Roenick has only five goals and 11 points in 31 games with the Kings this season. Despite his offensive struggles, the Kings are tied for first in the Pacific Division. The Kings play the Flames in Calgary on Wednesday night.
Esbee
12-20-2005, 03:58 PM
File this under ironic moot argument...
TSN.ca Staff
12/20/2005 3:17:15 PM
Jeremy Roenick's disappointing season has taken another bad turn. Roenick told TSN on Tuesday that he broke a finger while blocking a shot last night against Vancouver and he expects to miss four to six weeks of action.
Roenick's tough season was highlighted by his omission from the U.S. Olympic team roster, which was announced yesterday. Roenick appeared to use the rejection as motivation, as he broke an eight-game pointless drought with a goal and an assist in the Kings 4-3 win over the Canucks.
But Roenick broke the ring finger on his left hand blocking a shot in the second period, and he told that the injury would sideline him for at least a month.
Ironically, the injury likely would have kept him out of the February Olympics had he been selected for Team USA. Before getting hurt, however, Roenick said he thought American officials would choose him for the Turin Games out of respect for his previous tenures with the team.
"To not have the opportunity to go back one more time and try and win the gold is obviously, in my opinion, very disrespectful," said Roenick, who has 1,133 points in 1,156 career regular season games. "They can beat me down and say I'm over the hill or say that I don't have it anymore, but to me I know that I do."
Roenick has only five goals and 11 points in 31 games with the Kings this season. Despite his offensive struggles, the Kings are tied for first in the Pacific Division. The Kings play the Flames in Calgary on Wednesday night.
caniac369
12-20-2005, 04:11 PM
Roenick said he thought American officials would choose him for the Turin Games out of respect for his previous tenures with the team.
"To not have the opportunity to go back one more time and try and win the gold is obviously, in my opinion, very disrespectful," said Roenick.
Jeez, what the heck. Disrespectful? Give me a break... At least he got to go and have the experiance. How many guys in this league who are great players will never get the chance to do it even once?
caniac369
12-20-2005, 04:11 PM
Roenick said he thought American officials would choose him for the Turin Games out of respect for his previous tenures with the team.
"To not have the opportunity to go back one more time and try and win the gold is obviously, in my opinion, very disrespectful," said Roenick.
Jeez, what the heck. Disrespectful? Give me a break... At least he got to go and have the experiance. How many guys in this league who are great players will never get the chance to do it even once?
caniac369
12-20-2005, 04:11 PM
Roenick said he thought American officials would choose him for the Turin Games out of respect for his previous tenures with the team.
"To not have the opportunity to go back one more time and try and win the gold is obviously, in my opinion, very disrespectful," said Roenick.
Jeez, what the heck. Disrespectful? Give me a break... At least he got to go and have the experiance. How many guys in this league who are great players will never get the chance to do it even once?
Canesluver
12-20-2005, 04:57 PM
Y'all!
I got through about 4 posts before I figured out that "JR" is Roenick and not Jim Rutherford!
I kept thinking, "Why does JR (i.e. Rutherford) have anything to do with who gets picked to be in the Olympics?"
:lol:
Canesluver
12-20-2005, 04:57 PM
Y'all!
I got through about 4 posts before I figured out that "JR" is Roenick and not Jim Rutherford!
I kept thinking, "Why does JR (i.e. Rutherford) have anything to do with who gets picked to be in the Olympics?"
:lol:
Canesluver
12-20-2005, 04:57 PM
Y'all!
I got through about 4 posts before I figured out that "JR" is Roenick and not Jim Rutherford!
I kept thinking, "Why does JR (i.e. Rutherford) have anything to do with who gets picked to be in the Olympics?"
:lol:
Romney3921
12-20-2005, 06:07 PM
Canesluver wrote
I got through about 4 posts before I figured out that "JR" is Roenick and not Jim Rutherford!
I kept thinking, "Why does JR (i.e. Rutherford) have anything to do with who gets picked to be in the Olympics?"
Ditto!
Romney3921
12-20-2005, 06:07 PM
Canesluver wrote
I got through about 4 posts before I figured out that "JR" is Roenick and not Jim Rutherford!
I kept thinking, "Why does JR (i.e. Rutherford) have anything to do with who gets picked to be in the Olympics?"
Ditto!
Romney3921
12-20-2005, 06:07 PM
Canesluver wrote
I got through about 4 posts before I figured out that "JR" is Roenick and not Jim Rutherford!
I kept thinking, "Why does JR (i.e. Rutherford) have anything to do with who gets picked to be in the Olympics?"
Ditto!
puck_it
12-21-2005, 12:12 AM
Y'all!
I got through about 4 posts before I figured out that "JR" is Roenick and not Jim Rutherford!
I kept thinking, "Why does JR (i.e. Rutherford) have anything to do with who gets picked to be in the Olympics?"
:lol:
i saw the thread title and went "oh *@%! who the hell did we just trade?"
puck_it
12-21-2005, 12:12 AM
Y'all!
I got through about 4 posts before I figured out that "JR" is Roenick and not Jim Rutherford!
I kept thinking, "Why does JR (i.e. Rutherford) have anything to do with who gets picked to be in the Olympics?"
:lol:
i saw the thread title and went "oh *@%! who the hell did we just trade?"
puck_it
12-21-2005, 12:12 AM
Y'all!
I got through about 4 posts before I figured out that "JR" is Roenick and not Jim Rutherford!
I kept thinking, "Why does JR (i.e. Rutherford) have anything to do with who gets picked to be in the Olympics?"
:lol:
i saw the thread title and went "oh *@%! who the hell did we just trade?"
Esbee
12-21-2005, 11:30 AM
Now appearing as the antithesis to JR, from Edmonton:
"It sure doesn't hurt your resume," said Smyth. "But I don't know what they'll base it on, that's for them to decide. Even just to be recognized as one of the guys on this list is quite an honour. I was fortunate to part of the Olympics on '02 and experience so many great things.
"Don't get me wrong, I'm excited and I'd love to hear my name Wednesday," continued Smyth. "But if it doesn't happen, is it the end of the world? No, it isn't. Being part of Team Canada in the past has always been a pleasure and I'd love to represent my country again."
Esbee
12-21-2005, 11:30 AM
Now appearing as the antithesis to JR, from Edmonton:
"It sure doesn't hurt your resume," said Smyth. "But I don't know what they'll base it on, that's for them to decide. Even just to be recognized as one of the guys on this list is quite an honour. I was fortunate to part of the Olympics on '02 and experience so many great things.
"Don't get me wrong, I'm excited and I'd love to hear my name Wednesday," continued Smyth. "But if it doesn't happen, is it the end of the world? No, it isn't. Being part of Team Canada in the past has always been a pleasure and I'd love to represent my country again."
Esbee
12-21-2005, 11:30 AM
Now appearing as the antithesis to JR, from Edmonton:
"It sure doesn't hurt your resume," said Smyth. "But I don't know what they'll base it on, that's for them to decide. Even just to be recognized as one of the guys on this list is quite an honour. I was fortunate to part of the Olympics on '02 and experience so many great things.
"Don't get me wrong, I'm excited and I'd love to hear my name Wednesday," continued Smyth. "But if it doesn't happen, is it the end of the world? No, it isn't. Being part of Team Canada in the past has always been a pleasure and I'd love to represent my country again."
corylav
01-12-2006, 01:05 PM
More from J.R.
Q&A with Jeremy Roenick
By David Amber
Special to ESPN.com
So just how did Roenick evolve from a pip-squeak Massachusetts teenager to one of the fiercest competitors in the game? In this edition of Facing Off, we find out how J.R. could be the next big star in Hollywood, what he would like to say to USA Hockey after his Olympic snub and why he isn't prepared to walk away from the game just yet.
Question from David Amber: You've been out with a broken finger since the middle of December and expected to return shortly, but how frustrating has it been not being able to play?
Answer from Roenick: It's been tough, my season hasn't gone as expected this year. I haven't been able to play the style of hockey I like to. I've been working hard and I'm feeling better. I expect to come back and rip it up, to tell you the truth.
Q: Why did you struggle so much at the start of this season?
A: I struggled 'cause I couldn't get my skates sharpened the way I like. I wasn't confident in my footing. I wasn't confident in my feet. When you feel like you're going to fall down and you're off balance, you're going to struggle.
Q: So, it was an equipment issue?
A: Yeah it was. When you can't skate the way you like, it leads to a bad back, bad groin, bad hamstrings, bad hips. It's been a battle from the beginning. I have a different skating radius than most guys, so when I change teams, it's tough for the trainers to find the right lie and the right cut that I need to use with my skates, so it's tough.
•••• perhaps, maybe ... you're just old??? ••••
Q: Why have you been so accessible to the media throughout your career?
A: I believe the media has a job to do. The media gets us into the public eye. The media has to relay what we're doing to let fans know, and at the same time, we can use the media to get out our persona and give a glimpse into our personalities.
Q: What would you like to tell hockey fans who don't know as much about Jeremy Roenick as they should?
A: That I'm not as cocky and brash and arrogant as my media persona may dictate. I'm a very happy-go-lucky guy. I'm very passionate about the fans and the game. I'm friendly and very approachable. I'm very confident, some people read that as cocky, but that's just me loving who I am and because I love who I am. I can love other people.
Q: What were you like as a kid?
A: I was a huge athlete. I played every sport. After school, I always went to soccer or hockey practice. On the weekends, I was traveling all over the country and to Canada to play hockey. I was an extreme athlete. So I was busy.
Q: I read you played football in high school, but why were you the kicker?
A: My football coach was also the hockey coach, and he refused to allow me to do anything but kick, 'cause we'd be screwed for the hockey season if I got hurt. But I made the all-league team as a kicker, so I did pretty well.
Q: What was the longest field goal you ever kicked?
A: In a game, 42 yards. In practice, I kicked a couple of 52-, 53-yarders. I had a pretty big foot. I was a soccer player by nature, probably better than hockey.
Q: You were drafted eighth overall in 1988. What was that moment like, realizing your NHL dream had come true?
A: It was amazing. I was told as a young kid that I was destined to play in the NHL, but until it happens, you just keep working and keep having fun. I was 160 pounds in 1988. I knew I still had a lot to do to make it in the league. When I finally realized that I needed to be a gritty, mean player, as well as a talented player, that's when I realized I was going to have a long career.
Q: You made the jump straight from major junior to the NHL. What was the toughest part of that adjustment?
A: Playing against guys that were so much older and so much bigger than me. I remember Mike Keenan grabbing me around the throat and threatening me to play a certain way when I didn't think I could. He taught me the mental toughness and the ability to overcome adversity when you don't think you can. I learned a lot as a young player.
Q: With a coach physically threatening you, some guys would thrive under those tactics and some guys would fold. How close were you to folding?
A: I would never fold. I have very thick skin. There is not one person in this world that can tell me that I suck, that I'm not a good hockey player, that I don't belong somewhere. I make those decisions, nobody else makes those decisions, and that's how you become successful. Keenan saw something in me that he wanted to make sure it thrived, he didn't want to see me waste it, so he was hard on me and I realized that. He taught me I could overcome anything.
Q: What is your greatest hockey memory so far in your career?
A: I think the 2002 Olympics. Getting to the gold-medal game against Canada and having it be such a good game and all the hype about winning the silver medal. That I think I would have to put No. 1.
Q: Now that you've had a few weeks to reflect, how do you react to being left off the U.S. Olympic team?
A: I'm pissed. I feel extremely disrespected. I am right up there with any American to ever play the game. Look at Shane Doan. He has struggled all this year, but he has been in the Canadian system for years, and Canada has respect for the guys that have won medals for them, so they selected him. That wasn't the case with the U.S. I think it was totally disrespectful. I have no love for USA Hockey at this point. If they ask me to do anything for USA Hockey again, it will not be done.
Q: Will you watch the Olympic hockey games?
A: Yeah, I watch the games because I love the guys. These are all my boys, these are the guys who I grew up playing with. These guys helped me and I helped them build USA Hockey to where it is today. I love these guys with all my heart and want them to do well.
•••• not "Rah, rah Can-a-da?" ••••
Q: Do you deserve the title of "Greatest American-born NHL player ever?"
A: I think it's a tie between me and Mike Modano. In my opinion, Modano is one of the best players ever to play the game, regardless of where he was born. His talent is second to none. I have had to do it more with grit and fight and all-out work. Mike is more talented. But I think that's a question that will be raised a lot, who is better, Mike or me.
Q: With the way the team has played of late, should we view your Los Angeles Kings as a legitimate threat to get to the Stanley Cup?
A: I'm hoping our Kings team is like Calgary from the last Stanley Cup. We have a goalie that can take us there. We have a team that is close knit. We have all the intangibles, we have goal scoring, we have toughness, we have grit, so I really feel we can do it.
Q: So what's your role on this team?
A: I'm a big rah-rah guy. I'm a guy that leads by example. I keep it loose in the locker room. I keep it fun, I keep the guys together. On the ice, I work my ass off. When the young guys see a 35-year-old working as hard as I do, they have no choice but to follow suit. But really, I'm the jokester, I dance in the locker room, I'm happy to be there and make it fun to come to the rink every day.
Q: What do you think it's like playing against Jeremy Roenick?
A: I don't think it's fun. Other players don't know if I'm going to burn you offensively and make a move and score a goal, or if I'm going to flat-out run your face through the glass. To me, it's the all-around threat. That's what I pride myself on.
Q: Is it only fitting that, if this is your final NHL stop, it's in Hollywood?
A: I have loved every minute here. I've had a lot of opportunities since I got here. I've been offered movie roles, I've been asked to do TV shows and have appeared on all sorts of late-night talk shows. I just finished filming a pilot for a new TV show on NBC called "The Heist."
Q: What did you do on "The Heist"?
A: I played a SWAT team cop, I knocked a couple of guys out. I can act. I've been on "Arli$$" four times, I have been on "One Life to Live." I love acting.
Q: So is that what we'll see from J.R. post-NHL, an acting career?
A: I'd rather have my own show on ESPN to tell you the truth. I'd want to have athletes on the show and make sure they are candid and honest. I want to be that guy who can get the truth out of athletes, get them to say those things they might not want to say because they're afraid.
Q: What kind of Hollywood types come out to Kings games?
A: Cuba Gooding Jr. is at every game. Sandra Bullock comes to a lot of games with Jesse James. Cindy Crawford has been to games, Mark McGrath, Kiefer Sutherland and Jerry Bruckheimer all come to most of the games. So, we have a contingency of big name stars who come out.
Q: How would you describe the job Gary Bettman has done as commissioner?
A: He's been good for the owners. He's been steadfast in his desire to get the cap. He has helped bring parity to the league. I don't think he's a hockey guru, he's spent most of his time in the NBA. He obviously didn't play the game and he doesn't know what it's like to play the game and he's been trying to learn about the game for the last 10 years. His job was to do what's right for the owners and he did a magnificent job. He played hardball and got what the owners needed, but now he needs to do what's right for the game, and that's spend some money and get the product out there for the public. In terms of that, it's been less than stellar.
Q: Is the NHL better now than it was two years ago?
A: Absolutely, it's more exciting. The owners are making more money. The fans are coming back. I think it's a better product overall. Hopefully, ticket prices have come down to make it more affordable for fans. The only problem with the game is the TV exposure. Our TV package is atrocious. Our ability to show games on a network has been awful. OLN has tried the best they can, but nobody is watching hockey. The marketing of hockey is as bad as we've ever seen it. Until the NHL realizes that it needs to market the game better, the NHL will never gain any popularity.
Q: You're almost 36 years old. Considering all the serious injuries you've had, why do you keep playing?
A: I'm passionate about the game. I love it. I love being with the guys, being around the rink, the team atmosphere. That's what I was born to do. Injuries happen, you just need to learn to deal with them. I work hard to stay in shape, so I don't let injuries slow me down.
Q: Aren't you concerned what might happen to you after your career, with your body so beaten up?
A: No. I'm Superman, don't you know that? [Laughs] Nothing will happen to me, that's what keeps me going. It's the refusal to acknowledge that anything bad will happen to me, it's what keeps my edge.
Q: What do you think about your candidacy for the Hall of Fame?
A: I think it speaks for itself, the amount of games I've played the amount of goals I've scored, being in the Olympics, getting to the Stanley Cup final, all the All-Star appearances, not a lot of Americans have done that. Plus everything that I have done with the media. I'm hoping that would be enough reason to get there. That is something I would treasure, that would put the cap on a career that I never imagined I would have.
David Amber is an ESPN anchor and a contributor to ESPN.com.
corylav
01-12-2006, 01:05 PM
More from J.R.
Q&A with Jeremy Roenick
By David Amber
Special to ESPN.com
So just how did Roenick evolve from a pip-squeak Massachusetts teenager to one of the fiercest competitors in the game? In this edition of Facing Off, we find out how J.R. could be the next big star in Hollywood, what he would like to say to USA Hockey after his Olympic snub and why he isn't prepared to walk away from the game just yet.
Question from David Amber: You've been out with a broken finger since the middle of December and expected to return shortly, but how frustrating has it been not being able to play?
Answer from Roenick: It's been tough, my season hasn't gone as expected this year. I haven't been able to play the style of hockey I like to. I've been working hard and I'm feeling better. I expect to come back and rip it up, to tell you the truth.
Q: Why did you struggle so much at the start of this season?
A: I struggled 'cause I couldn't get my skates sharpened the way I like. I wasn't confident in my footing. I wasn't confident in my feet. When you feel like you're going to fall down and you're off balance, you're going to struggle.
Q: So, it was an equipment issue?
A: Yeah it was. When you can't skate the way you like, it leads to a bad back, bad groin, bad hamstrings, bad hips. It's been a battle from the beginning. I have a different skating radius than most guys, so when I change teams, it's tough for the trainers to find the right lie and the right cut that I need to use with my skates, so it's tough.
•••• perhaps, maybe ... you're just old??? ••••
Q: Why have you been so accessible to the media throughout your career?
A: I believe the media has a job to do. The media gets us into the public eye. The media has to relay what we're doing to let fans know, and at the same time, we can use the media to get out our persona and give a glimpse into our personalities.
Q: What would you like to tell hockey fans who don't know as much about Jeremy Roenick as they should?
A: That I'm not as cocky and brash and arrogant as my media persona may dictate. I'm a very happy-go-lucky guy. I'm very passionate about the fans and the game. I'm friendly and very approachable. I'm very confident, some people read that as cocky, but that's just me loving who I am and because I love who I am. I can love other people.
Q: What were you like as a kid?
A: I was a huge athlete. I played every sport. After school, I always went to soccer or hockey practice. On the weekends, I was traveling all over the country and to Canada to play hockey. I was an extreme athlete. So I was busy.
Q: I read you played football in high school, but why were you the kicker?
A: My football coach was also the hockey coach, and he refused to allow me to do anything but kick, 'cause we'd be screwed for the hockey season if I got hurt. But I made the all-league team as a kicker, so I did pretty well.
Q: What was the longest field goal you ever kicked?
A: In a game, 42 yards. In practice, I kicked a couple of 52-, 53-yarders. I had a pretty big foot. I was a soccer player by nature, probably better than hockey.
Q: You were drafted eighth overall in 1988. What was that moment like, realizing your NHL dream had come true?
A: It was amazing. I was told as a young kid that I was destined to play in the NHL, but until it happens, you just keep working and keep having fun. I was 160 pounds in 1988. I knew I still had a lot to do to make it in the league. When I finally realized that I needed to be a gritty, mean player, as well as a talented player, that's when I realized I was going to have a long career.
Q: You made the jump straight from major junior to the NHL. What was the toughest part of that adjustment?
A: Playing against guys that were so much older and so much bigger than me. I remember Mike Keenan grabbing me around the throat and threatening me to play a certain way when I didn't think I could. He taught me the mental toughness and the ability to overcome adversity when you don't think you can. I learned a lot as a young player.
Q: With a coach physically threatening you, some guys would thrive under those tactics and some guys would fold. How close were you to folding?
A: I would never fold. I have very thick skin. There is not one person in this world that can tell me that I suck, that I'm not a good hockey player, that I don't belong somewhere. I make those decisions, nobody else makes those decisions, and that's how you become successful. Keenan saw something in me that he wanted to make sure it thrived, he didn't want to see me waste it, so he was hard on me and I realized that. He taught me I could overcome anything.
Q: What is your greatest hockey memory so far in your career?
A: I think the 2002 Olympics. Getting to the gold-medal game against Canada and having it be such a good game and all the hype about winning the silver medal. That I think I would have to put No. 1.
Q: Now that you've had a few weeks to reflect, how do you react to being left off the U.S. Olympic team?
A: I'm pissed. I feel extremely disrespected. I am right up there with any American to ever play the game. Look at Shane Doan. He has struggled all this year, but he has been in the Canadian system for years, and Canada has respect for the guys that have won medals for them, so they selected him. That wasn't the case with the U.S. I think it was totally disrespectful. I have no love for USA Hockey at this point. If they ask me to do anything for USA Hockey again, it will not be done.
Q: Will you watch the Olympic hockey games?
A: Yeah, I watch the games because I love the guys. These are all my boys, these are the guys who I grew up playing with. These guys helped me and I helped them build USA Hockey to where it is today. I love these guys with all my heart and want them to do well.
•••• not "Rah, rah Can-a-da?" ••••
Q: Do you deserve the title of "Greatest American-born NHL player ever?"
A: I think it's a tie between me and Mike Modano. In my opinion, Modano is one of the best players ever to play the game, regardless of where he was born. His talent is second to none. I have had to do it more with grit and fight and all-out work. Mike is more talented. But I think that's a question that will be raised a lot, who is better, Mike or me.
Q: With the way the team has played of late, should we view your Los Angeles Kings as a legitimate threat to get to the Stanley Cup?
A: I'm hoping our Kings team is like Calgary from the last Stanley Cup. We have a goalie that can take us there. We have a team that is close knit. We have all the intangibles, we have goal scoring, we have toughness, we have grit, so I really feel we can do it.
Q: So what's your role on this team?
A: I'm a big rah-rah guy. I'm a guy that leads by example. I keep it loose in the locker room. I keep it fun, I keep the guys together. On the ice, I work my ass off. When the young guys see a 35-year-old working as hard as I do, they have no choice but to follow suit. But really, I'm the jokester, I dance in the locker room, I'm happy to be there and make it fun to come to the rink every day.
Q: What do you think it's like playing against Jeremy Roenick?
A: I don't think it's fun. Other players don't know if I'm going to burn you offensively and make a move and score a goal, or if I'm going to flat-out run your face through the glass. To me, it's the all-around threat. That's what I pride myself on.
Q: Is it only fitting that, if this is your final NHL stop, it's in Hollywood?
A: I have loved every minute here. I've had a lot of opportunities since I got here. I've been offered movie roles, I've been asked to do TV shows and have appeared on all sorts of late-night talk shows. I just finished filming a pilot for a new TV show on NBC called "The Heist."
Q: What did you do on "The Heist"?
A: I played a SWAT team cop, I knocked a couple of guys out. I can act. I've been on "Arli$$" four times, I have been on "One Life to Live." I love acting.
Q: So is that what we'll see from J.R. post-NHL, an acting career?
A: I'd rather have my own show on ESPN to tell you the truth. I'd want to have athletes on the show and make sure they are candid and honest. I want to be that guy who can get the truth out of athletes, get them to say those things they might not want to say because they're afraid.
Q: What kind of Hollywood types come out to Kings games?
A: Cuba Gooding Jr. is at every game. Sandra Bullock comes to a lot of games with Jesse James. Cindy Crawford has been to games, Mark McGrath, Kiefer Sutherland and Jerry Bruckheimer all come to most of the games. So, we have a contingency of big name stars who come out.
Q: How would you describe the job Gary Bettman has done as commissioner?
A: He's been good for the owners. He's been steadfast in his desire to get the cap. He has helped bring parity to the league. I don't think he's a hockey guru, he's spent most of his time in the NBA. He obviously didn't play the game and he doesn't know what it's like to play the game and he's been trying to learn about the game for the last 10 years. His job was to do what's right for the owners and he did a magnificent job. He played hardball and got what the owners needed, but now he needs to do what's right for the game, and that's spend some money and get the product out there for the public. In terms of that, it's been less than stellar.
Q: Is the NHL better now than it was two years ago?
A: Absolutely, it's more exciting. The owners are making more money. The fans are coming back. I think it's a better product overall. Hopefully, ticket prices have come down to make it more affordable for fans. The only problem with the game is the TV exposure. Our TV package is atrocious. Our ability to show games on a network has been awful. OLN has tried the best they can, but nobody is watching hockey. The marketing of hockey is as bad as we've ever seen it. Until the NHL realizes that it needs to market the game better, the NHL will never gain any popularity.
Q: You're almost 36 years old. Considering all the serious injuries you've had, why do you keep playing?
A: I'm passionate about the game. I love it. I love being with the guys, being around the rink, the team atmosphere. That's what I was born to do. Injuries happen, you just need to learn to deal with them. I work hard to stay in shape, so I don't let injuries slow me down.
Q: Aren't you concerned what might happen to you after your career, with your body so beaten up?
A: No. I'm Superman, don't you know that? [Laughs] Nothing will happen to me, that's what keeps me going. It's the refusal to acknowledge that anything bad will happen to me, it's what keeps my edge.
Q: What do you think about your candidacy for the Hall of Fame?
A: I think it speaks for itself, the amount of games I've played the amount of goals I've scored, being in the Olympics, getting to the Stanley Cup final, all the All-Star appearances, not a lot of Americans have done that. Plus everything that I have done with the media. I'm hoping that would be enough reason to get there. That is something I would treasure, that would put the cap on a career that I never imagined I would have.
David Amber is an ESPN anchor and a contributor to ESPN.com.
Canesluver
01-12-2006, 01:21 PM
Could someone PLEASE change the title of this thread to "Jeremy Roenick is a bonehead....or not...Thread?"
It had been awhile since I had been in it, and I thought it was about Rutherford, again!
If someboy could please, oh please, change the title of this thread, I would love you forever! :beatup:
Canesluver
01-12-2006, 01:21 PM
Could someone PLEASE change the title of this thread to "Jeremy Roenick is a bonehead....or not...Thread?"
It had been awhile since I had been in it, and I thought it was about Rutherford, again!
If someboy could please, oh please, change the title of this thread, I would love you forever! :beatup:
Guyute
01-12-2006, 02:25 PM
you already love me forever... but I did it anyway. ;)
I had forgotten about this thread and was expecting a Rutherford gripe (and was groaning at the thought of having to come in here with steel-toed boots) :)
I see JR's point about Doan... but honestly... HE shouldn't be on that damn team either. picking players who are big questions marks whether they "still have it", just because they've been on the team in the past is assinine. So you have a Doan instead of a Staal. good luck with that.
personally I think the US team has enough questionable picks... adding JR wouldn't have helped any. (said by someone who has loved the guy his whole career)
Guyute
01-12-2006, 02:25 PM
you already love me forever... but I did it anyway. ;)
I had forgotten about this thread and was expecting a Rutherford gripe (and was groaning at the thought of having to come in here with steel-toed boots) :)
I see JR's point about Doan... but honestly... HE shouldn't be on that damn team either. picking players who are big questions marks whether they "still have it", just because they've been on the team in the past is assinine. So you have a Doan instead of a Staal. good luck with that.
personally I think the US team has enough questionable picks... adding JR wouldn't have helped any. (said by someone who has loved the guy his whole career)
puckin_A
01-20-2006, 06:59 PM
I think JR is right in what he has done for Team USA.....problem is. Its OTHER people that should be saying it and not him. LOL.....
I think its hard for him because so many older guys from '02 were picked!!!...
oh well....time to move on.
puckin_A
01-20-2006, 06:59 PM
I think JR is right in what he has done for Team USA.....problem is. Its OTHER people that should be saying it and not him. LOL.....
I think its hard for him because so many older guys from '02 were picked!!!...
oh well....time to move on.
puckin_A
01-20-2006, 06:59 PM
I think JR is right in what he has done for Team USA.....problem is. Its OTHER people that should be saying it and not him. LOL.....
I think its hard for him because so many older guys from '02 were picked!!!...
oh well....time to move on.
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