Third Jersey

[Ashleygirl]

I'm bored and it's too hot to work in the garden this weekend...I'm thinking about sewing a third jersey to wear to the Canes games next season. Anyone have any ideas about colors, logos, etc?

[Turbulence]

Black is the key... You need a black dominance with possibly the hurricane flag as the main logo. That's what I'd imagine the future 3rd jersey would/will look like.
Black and red...very little white. It'd look sharp! :smoke:

[Ashleygirl]

I figured Black would be the choice color...Do you think the hurricane warning flag (red w/black square) would show up well on a black jersey? Any other ideas for trim deco or colors around the bottom and arms? I thought maybe trimmed in gold since the regular jersey uses silver?

[hyena]

oooo, you know i think that WOULD look pretty sharp. black as the main color, the flag logo with white outline huge on the chest, and everything that is silver now make gold. :D

[tommy]

gold is definitely a cool idea... as long as it isn't too much... of course we could always make it completely gold, and be the Carolina Cash Money Millionaires... ok, sorry about that. :p

[Turbulence]

The Carolina Bling Bling?

Can't you just see ol' Ronnie wearing some Ice during a game? Forget the C on the shoulder....a big C in diamonds hanging from a 24k gold chain... :smoke:

[Stormbringer]

Can't you just see ol' Ronnie wearing some Ice during a game? Forget the C on the shoulder....a big C in diamonds hanging from a 24k gold chain... :smoke:

http://66.227.101.70/otn/realhappy/xxrotflmao.gif

Great...first, Ronnie the wrestler (http://www.letsgocanes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=13554#13554), and now Ronnie the rap star...or Mr. T wannabe...

"I pity da fool who disses my chains and team!"

Actually, I envision Ronnie as being more like Hannibal "I love it when a plan comes together!" Smith with O being like Mr. T. If O was willing to put highlights in his hair, who says he can't grow a mohawk and wear gold chains? Afterall, O *is* the stylish Cane... :D

Note: My apologies to the two mentioned Canes...I've been on quite a roll lately. First, my first Iron Cane Chef Competition's ending (http://www.missfantastic.com/stormbringer/scribblings/reviews/cooking/icc/icc01.htm), and now this... :crazy: :beatup: ;)

[Ashleygirl]

Thanks for the ideas and humor. It's nice to smile (it's been a tough week). I'll start desinging and shopping for fabrics to see what we come up with!

[Turbulence]

Wow you're crafty. I could never begin to do that...
Good luck! :spin:

[Ashleygirl]

I was given two suggestions for the trim around the bottom of the jersey- either use the hurricanes present logo (storm swirl) or just print in bold "HURRICANES" all the way around...what do you think?

[Turbulence]

Logo definately....I think HURRICANES in big block letters would look tacky...if my opinion means anything. I'm not very fashion-smart. :sick: :spin:

[Ashleygirl]

Don't worry, appreciate your input! I thought I would prefer the logo as well. I wish I could draw better, but I think I'll have to make several sketches and see what I like. Heading to the fabric store tomorrow to scope out the possible fabrics....Just gotta keep the hockey juices flowing somehow - it's gonna be a looooooong summer!

[Shell]

That really is awesome Ashleygirl. If you have a digi camera, you have to show us pics when you finish (before you sell to Gale Force ;))

I wish I knew how to use my sewing machine..

[Romney]

Ashleygirl said
I wish I could draw better, but I think I'll have to make several sketches and see what I like.

If you know someone with access to an overhead projector (such as a teacher), this might work for you. I used one to outline an eye on my son's wall and it worked great. Usually people think of overheads for largers projects, but I've found they work well for smaller projects as well.

Have fun sewing.

[caniac369]

The Carolina Bling Bling?

Can't you just see ol' Ronnie wearing some Ice during a game? Forget the C on the shoulder....a big C in diamonds hanging from a 24k gold chain... :smoke:

Maybe not Ronnie, but Jeff O would like it just dandy!!

[Stormbringer]

The Carolina Bling Bling?

Can't you just see ol' Ronnie wearing some Ice during a game? Forget the C on the shoulder....a big C in diamonds hanging from a 24k gold chain... :smoke:

Maybe not Ronnie, but Jeff O would like it just dandy!!

Oh, I think O would definitely jump at the opportunity to wear a nice gold and diamond "A", as notoriously stylish as he is... :D

[Shell]

Oh, I think O would definitely jump at the opportunity to wear a nice gold and diamond "A", as notoriously stylish as he is... :D

Definitely.. but he would probably want his jacket as well..

http://puckbunny92.homestead.com/files/Jeff7.jpg
"Did he skin a yellow lab to come up with that coat? I don't care if it's warm. It's brutal!"- Bates Battaglia

'Borrowed' from this site: http://puckbunny92.homestead.com/canesquotes.html

[Stormbringer]

Oh, I think O would definitely jump at the opportunity to wear a nice gold and diamond "A", as notoriously stylish as he is... :D

Definitely.. but he would probably want his jacket as well..

(picture of John, Ronnie, and O smiling and looking snazzy)

"Did he skin a yellow lab to come up with that coat? I don't care if it's warm. It's brutal!"- Bates Battaglia

'Borrowed' from this site: http://puckbunny92.homestead.com/canesquotes.html

LOL! I remember reading about that coat when I was browsing the Road Trippin's one evening sometime ago. Funny stuff there, both in the referenced article and that Canes quote site. :D

[Jeff O Rocks]

O looks like he could do "Mo Diddy's" job with that coat....I should have bought him that hat at Busch Gardens!! :D ;)

[Stormbringer]

Mona...the hats at Busch Gardens were purple, right? I don't know if O would want one to go with that coat of his or not. Depends upon how color coordinated conscious he is...I'm willing to bet he wouldn't care as long as he was stylin'. :D ;)

[Jeff O Rocks]

Mona...the hats at Busch Gardens were purple, right? I don't know if O would want one to go with that coat of his or not. Depends upon how color coordinated conscious he is...I'm willing to bet he wouldn't care as long as he was stylin'. :D ;)

One was purple and the other was black..with leopard trim!! :D He thinks he is the bomb...he would wear one with the coat!! :cool: ;)

...and Ashley..have you thought about incorporating pictures of some of the players on that jersey?? Just a thought!! :roll:

[talkingcanes]

One was purple and the other was black..with leopard trim!! :D He thinks he is the bomb...he would wear one with the coat!! :cool: ;)


black with leopard trim (was there a feather anywhere) and that coat?

there's a fashion statement of some sort in there somewhere, I'm sure :cool:

bet he would think it photo worthy though :D :eek2:

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Awww...you guys are pimping out poor Jeffy!! Oh...wait....he did that himself with that coat....nevermind! ;)

[Jeff O Rocks]

Awww...you guys are pimping out poor Jeffy!! Oh...wait....he did that himself with that coat....nevermind! ;)

Didn't he though?? He looks like he would slap poor John and Ron and say..."where is my 50 bucks??" :D ;)

[Stormbringer]

Awww...you guys are pimping out poor Jeffy!! Oh...wait....he did that himself with that coat....nevermind! ;)

Didn't he though?? He looks like he would slap poor John and Ron and say..."where is my 50 bucks??" :D ;)

ROTFLMAO!! http://66.227.101.70/otn/realhappy/xxrotflmao.gif

[Ashleygirl]

So, if I put on all the deco, names and numbers with velcro, I could change anything to match a different player every game.....Rhinestones on the "C" (I can't afford real gems) for #10, leather and leopard trim around the hem and cuffs for #92, gauze and cloth tape for #36, "this space for rent" sign for #1?

I won't have to submit pics...I'll get seats on the glass and give the showoff "Dancing Queen" a run for her money!!

[Ashleygirl]

Okay - I drew up several jersey designs and shopped for fabric options. The basic color is black, with red and then used silver and gold trim and highlights. I think the design looks great and I can't wait to strart sewing it up! I had to order fabric since I wasn't able to find a shop with all the right colors...like black(?)!!! so my project is a little delayed. I'll try to have pics available once I get it finished. I plan on making 6 jerseys to start, so I'll have my own little support group at all the games!

The last question was to add names (players or our own) and numbers to the back or to leave it plain.....I thought using our own nicknames might be fun. Any other ideas before the stitching begins?

[Turbulence]

Sounds like it's coming along nicely!
If you ask me, I like the idea of having real player's names and numbers...I'd go with blank only as a last option.
Nicknames sound cool too...but if it were me I'd go with the real players.

Can't wait to see it! :spin:

[Ashleygirl]

real names pf players is what I preferred, but now I have the dilemma of choosing again...I couldn't choose on my other jersey, so I was just given #13 and now he's gone. Guess I'd better choose a player that has little chance of going away, but then if I'm the one sewing ont he stuff, guess I can change it anytime I want as well...back to my velcro theory!!

[Turbulence]

Velcro is the answer to all problems...
But if you have to make it permenant, make a Francis jersey. He'll retire wearing the sightless eye...plus, he's one of the greatest ever. A Francis Carolina sweater will never get old. THe other good bet is Brind'Amour...I don't see him going anywhere. Maybe Jeff O'Neill, as well. And Hedican for another option.

On second thought....just velcro it. :beatup:

[Ashleygirl]

Oh, Hedican is a good idea - I think I could live with his # if he doesn't change it every year. Thanks for the reply!!

[AbNormal27]

Not quite what I had in mind, but interesting, nonetheless...........

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2733036245&category=25224

Aaryn

[Turbulence]

Eek... not to big on that Ebay 3rd...needs more black and the flag as the main logo...kinda mundane. Neat to see the sightless eye in a different surrounding, though.

[Alicia]

Kinda boring...

[Ashleygirl]

Real boring - mine will be so much better (I hope). Beside, you can't use the same logo on a basically white jersey, can you?

Mine is black, with diagonal gold and silver stripes on the sleeves and into a "v" across the front and back. Red fills in the bottom of the jersey and the bottom of the sleeves. Front logo: used the red flad with black square and a hockey stick for the flag pole - all on a gold triangular background. Kinda hard to describe, but I'm cutting out the pattern to start the logo patch tonight and will be burning up my sewing machine this weekend...especailly if it's raining :spin:

[Shell]

That really sounds awesome!! I can't wait to see it.. thanks for keeping us updated, it's fun going along the way!

[Turbulence]

That's gonna look great! You should sell the design to the team...collect tha big bucks... :spin:

[Ashleygirl]

Thanks for the support - I'm having fun with this project and hope it turns out worthy!! Thanks to Jeff-O-Rocks for turning me onto this website too (Met you at the airport after the last away game this season). It's so much better than CH.com and all the whining and complaining. Everyone here seems so positive!!

[Jeff O Rocks]

Thanks for the support - I'm having fun with this project and hope it turns out worthy!! Thanks to Jeff-O-Rocks for turning me onto this website too (Met you at the airport after the last away game this season). It's so much better than CH.com and all the whining and complaining. Everyone here seems so positive!!

We do have a great group...glad to have you here! :spin: ;) Hopefully we will have many happy trips to the airport this coming season!! :D

[JaroFan]

I have always wanted a jersey with the flag (i just saw the yellow practice one but didn't care for it), so i'll be very envious to see your finished product! Good luck!

[Ashleygirl]

Ran to the fabric store on lunch and bought all the fabric, so I'm heading to the living room, putting on a movie and sitting on the floor cutting out the flag and trim pieces tonight...I'm excited, but not quiet in the same way after I saw the picture of O'Neill that was posted by Jeff-O-Rocks earlier today...whew! I didn't get much accomplished at work after I saw that one!! :eek2:

[Jeff O Rocks]

Ran to the fabric store on lunch and bought all the fabric, so I'm heading to the living room, putting on a movie and sitting on the floor cutting out the flag and trim pieces tonight...I'm excited, but not quiet in the same way after I saw the picture of O'Neill that was posted by Jeff-O-Rocks earlier today...whew! I didn't get much accomplished at work after I saw that one!! :eek2:

**sprays Ashleygirl with hose** :D :p ;)

[Ashleygirl]

Thanks for the "hosing", but keep the pictures coming!!! Work has been boring lately :D

[AbNormal27]

Here's something I threw together today at the office. I'd love to hear some feedback from y'all.

http://www.cs.duke.edu/~kathryn/images/JerseyTreatment.jpg

Aaryn

[Alicia]

Pretty cool, Aaryn! ;)

[Turbulence]

That's pretty cool, Aaryn! That would look great on ice!
The one thing you forgot? The captain's C! :mad: :smoke:
How'd you do that, anyway? Was there a template that you used or did you draw that on your own?
You must have some skill...I could never do that in a million years!

[Stormbringer]

Now THAT for a third jersey would COOK! You must submit your idea to the Canes quick Aaryn! http://www.freeadpower.org/~mrsmiles/otn/wink/thumb.gif :spin:

[AbNormal27]

That's pretty cool, Aaryn! That would look great on ice!
The one thing you forgot? The captain's C! :mad: :smoke:
How'd you do that, anyway? Was there a template that you used or did you draw that on your own?
You must have some skill...I could never do that in a million years!

Thanks! I am a graphic designer by trade, so I do things like this all the time. We are just slow right now at the office and I had an extra few minutes. I used an app called Illustrator, and I left the Captain's C off by design. This is actually still a work in progress, but I thought it was working.

Aaryn

PS: 200 posts!

[SouthernHockeyChick]

That's awesome Aaryn!! I really like the way you used the logos.

[Turbulence]

So that's why it's so good... :beatup:

[1Irbegirlforever]

Thanks for the support - I'm having fun with this project and hope it turns out worthy!! Thanks to Jeff-O-Rocks for turning me onto this website too (Met you at the airport after the last away game this season). It's so much better than CH.com and all the whining and complaining. Everyone here seems so positive!!


Yes, they do! :) That's one reason I prefer lgc than ch.com any day...some people over at Ch.com have a tendency to think they know everything and everyone else is just jealous and stupid... :roll:

Right, SHC? ;)

[Ashleygirl]

Yes, I posted some info on my third jersey over on CH.com yesterday cause people were going on and on about wanting a third jersey, but something different. There was a long thread going on, but no real suggestions for a design. I questioned what they would like and one person anserwed, but didn't offer any usable info. I got much better support and suggestions on this board.

My black jersey fabric came in the mail yesterday, so if it rains this weekend, I'll be sporting a new look! Too bad my design isn't ready for the select-a-seat tonight!

[AbNormal27]

I made some minor tweeks to the design and downsized it. Let me know what you think. I am going to submit it to the Hurricanes, but only after I have other options to present to them too. Those, too, I will post here.

Aaryn

http://www.cs.duke.edu/~kathryn/images/JerseyTreatment2.jpg

[Guyute]

I like that a lot Aaryn. However... it's much easier to do color gradients in photoshop, than it is on real fabric. I don't think any team has a two-tone fade like that... I'm sure it would be Very difficult to do with cloth.
I think you're close though. :)

[AbNormal27]

Actually, it isn't difficult at all. My wife is a fashion designer and works for a garment company. I consulted her before I began this project, and asked that very question. She said that a couple of years ago, yes, it was something that would have been hard to do, but not now (see the canucks 3rd jersey). BTW, as I said before, I did this in Illustrator and then made the jpeg in Photoshop.

Aaryn

[Guyute]

(see the canucks 3rd jersey)

thanks... I hadn't seen that yet. you're right, they've used a gradient.
you can find it through the nhl store if any of you want to look at it. they use java popups for the images, so I can't get a filename to insert here.

[Turbulence]

http://server504.hypermart.net/thezone3/vancouver_third.gif
http://websmileys.bei.t-online.de/div20.gif

[Shell]

I assumed the same thing as Guyute.. I would love a gradient in my 3rd jersey!

[AbNormal27]

I assumed the same thing as Guyute.. I would love a gradient in my 3rd jersey!

I'm on it Shell.

Aaryn

[Ashleygirl]

Let's all come up with dfferent designs and sew them up. We could all wear them to the first game and see what we all come up with!!

[Guyute]

if I took/had the time, I could probably come up with a few. no way you'll see me sewing them tho. :laugh:

[Turbulence]

Too much testosterone in this cow to be able to figure out how to sew anything...though I suppose I could weld a 'Canes patch to a black t-shirt.

Think I'll wait for the real 3rd. :D

[Ashleygirl]

Well there you go...I can't weld (yet), but I can sew and re-wire my house! Can't wait to show off my design for a jersey - it's gonna be cool. Gotta go to select-a-seat tonight!!

[1Irbegirlforever]

Aaryn...that jersey design of yours is great! It's good to know that it is possible to do the color gradients. Be sure to post the rest on here when you finish them so we can see them. :) I have absolutely zero artistic talent, so you won't see any ideas coming from me... :roll:

[AbNormal27]

Aaryn... Be sure to post the rest on here when you finish them so we can see them.

OK, here's another one.....

http://ca.photos.yahoo.com/johnstoniousÂ*

It's image #4. Let me know what you think. It's just a play on the current jersey, just with the logos and colours flip-flopped.

BTW, there are some other samples of my work in there.

Aaryn

[Stormbringer]

Hmmm...that second jersey certainly isn't too shabby either Aaryn. :)

[Jeff O Rocks]

Aaryn... Be sure to post the rest on here when you finish them so we can see them.

OK, here's another one.....

http://ca.photos.yahoo.com/johnstoniousÂ*

It's image #4. Let me know what you think. It's just a play on the current jersey, just with the logos and colours flip-flopped.

BTW, there are some other samples of my work in there.

Aaryn

I like the black...I always think the team in black seems to have an advantage...they look menacing and mean! :D ;)

[Ashleygirl]

Besides, the leopard trim will look really good against the basic black background! :angel:

[hyena]

i like black too, but i'm really digging the gradient on that 'nucks jersey. in fact, i really like the whole jersey except for the 'nucks logo in the middle, lol -- it clashes.

aaryn, i love the designs you've come up with. ashleygirl, i can't wait to see your jersey! you guys are very creative. :spin:

[Kat]

i like black too, but i'm really digging the gradient on that 'nucks jersey. in fact, i really like the whole jersey except for the 'nucks logo in the middle, lol -- it clashes.


Funny you should say that... you can buy the NHL jerseys uncrested. My C league team almost got the uncrested 'Nucks third, actually.

-Kat

[AbNormal27]

Does anyone have an email address or contact within the Hurricanes where I can send my various concepts for a third jersey?

I surfed ch.com, but could only find fan mail and ticket info links.

I have been workiing on a few more over the past bit and think I have enough to submit to them in a concise and professional looking presentation.

If anyone can help, I would really appreciate it.

Aaryn

[Guyute]

you can probably figure out most of the emails of front office folks... I think all of them use one of two formats.
1. first name followed by first letter of last name (ie- buzzw)
2. first letter of first name, followed by full last name (ie- pkarmanos- that one probably doesn't work, just showing you. hehe)

Unfortunately I didn't keep all of my front office emails when we had a big issue, and I talked to Everyone. *kicking myself for not keeping those addresses*

I'd try Ken Lehner (marketing). Good guy and I'm sure he'd give them a good look, and pass them to the right people. I'd guess his would be klehner@carolinahurricanes.com, but it's a guess.
Worst comes to worst (you can't get through to ken), have one of us ask our rep if we could have you send that stuff to them for them to pass it on.

good luck :)

[Jeff O Rocks]

you can probably figure out most of the emails of front office folks... I think all of them use one of two formats.
1. first name followed by first letter of last name (ie- buzzw)
2. first letter of first name, followed by full last name (ie- pkarmanos- that one probably doesn't work, just showing you. hehe)

Unfortunately I didn't keep all of my front office emails when we had a big issue, and I talked to Everyone. *kicking myself for not keeping those addresses*

I'd try Ken Lehner (marketing). Good guy and I'm sure he'd give them a good look, and pass them to the right people. I'd guess his would be klehner@carolinahurricanes.com, but it's a guess.
Worst comes to worst (you can't get through to ken), have one of us ask our rep if we could have you send that stuff to them for them to pass it on.

good luck :)

I looked back at all my old emails...

it is EXAMPLE.... johnh@carolinahurricanes.com

firstname, last initial...and..................

Hope that helps!! :D

[Guyute]

yeah, I think the ticket reps are setup like that... but I'm almost positive front office people are not. I don't recall emailing Ken at kenl... I think his whole name was on there.

but, I do have a tendency to forget stuff... so who knows. :roll: :D

[Jeff O Rocks]

I found an address for the WEBMASTER...that might be a good place to send a general question...I am sure he/she will forward it to the correct person..

webmaster@carolinahurricanes.com

[AbNormal27]

I found an address for the WEBMASTER...that might be a good place to send a general question...I am sure he/she will forward it to the correct person..

webmaster@carolinahurricanes.com

Sorry, but that one came back undeliverable. I tried Guyute and JeffO's suggestions and it worked for 2 names I tried. So keep your fingers crossed and stay tuned :D .

Aaryn

[AbNormal27]

I received a reply from Ken Lehner....

Dear Aaryn,

Thank you for your interest in the Carolina Hurricanes. Although we
appreciate your enthusiasm, we are not in a position to accept outside
input with respect to a potential third party due to advice from our legal
counsel. In addition, we currently have no plans to produce a third
jersey as we want to build the tradition of our current jerseys.

Regards,
Ken Lehner
Vice President of Marketing Communications
2002 Eastern Conference Champion Carolina Hurricanes
THIS is hockey!

Translation - Pi$$ off.

Damn lawyers. Oh well, at least y'all were nice nice to at least LOOK at them.

Aaryn

[nccanes]

I think this might also mean that come the time that they want to create one, they don't want a stream of people claiming it was their design ripped off. I guess your email self-destructed to destroy the evidence. ;)

I guess I never thought about it, but considering there are 3 colors and 2 main logos, any designs have a great probability to look similar.

Sorry Aaryn. I hope you enjoyed the process. :)

[Ashleygirl]

Guess I should have warned you since I've talked with a few people about submitting an idea for a third design. I'm still sewing my idea into a jersey for a few of us to wear. Some Canes folks have expressed interest in seeing the product, for kicks and giggles only though and I'm okay with that. Maybe when they are ready to jump into the third market they'll offer a design contest and we can compete!!

[Alicia]

Too bad, Aaryn...that SUX!!!

[AbNormal27]

You see, here's the thing. My initial email to Mr. Lehner was to the effect that I was interested in producing some designs for a possible third jersey, inquiring as to how to go about getting in touch with the people who may be involved in such a project, and did NOT include any attached samples. I can understand their apprehension about using third party sources for graphic design due to them having an on-staff graphic design team, but again I was just inquiring as to what protocol was. So, no I'm not surprised, a little disappointed, but not surprised. Stay tuned, I'm not licked yet.

To see my latest creations (#'s 3, 4 and 5) you can check them out here....

http://ca.photos.yahoo.com/johnstoniousÂ*

Again, ANY feedback is appreciated for any of my work that is there.

Aaryn

[AbNormal27]

Aayrn, I have been debating the jersey treatments and I vote for #3...I like the gray..

OK, I finally have a firm vote. Other than having my name spelled incorrectly (I'm teasing, I've dealt with that for over 29 years now), I would really appreciate some more feedback. I have more ideas, and though Mr. Lehner and the Hurricanes don't seem to want to look at my ideas, on behalf of the best Hurricanes fans I have ever met (all of you [do I sound like Mick Foley looking for a cheap pop yet?]), I will not give up. Come on lgc.com-ers, talk to me!

Aaryn

[Jeff O Rocks]

Aayrn, I have been debating the jersey treatments and I vote for #3...I like the gray..

OK, I finally have a firm vote. Other than having my name spelled incorrectly (I'm teasing, I've dealt with that for over 29 years now), I would really appreciate some more feedback. I have more ideas, and though Mr. Lehner and the Hurricanes don't seem to want to look at my ideas, on behalf of the best Hurricanes fans I have ever met (all of you [do I sound like Mick Foley looking for a cheap pop yet?]), I will not give up. Come on lgc.com-ers, talk to me!

Aaryn

Sorry about the name misspelling...my fingers just wouldn't cooperate with my brain..sorry!! :roll:

[AbNormal27]

Just in case anyone wanted to see some more of the concepts I have come up with for a potential Hurricanes Third Jersey, please check them out here.........

http://ca.photos.yahoo.com/johnstonious

In the folder marked "Hurricanes Third Jersey Concepts". I have only posted 4 more today (time would not permit more here at work).

Keep Your Sticks On The Ice,
Aaryn

[Stormbringer]

Very cool and creative Aaryn...me like. :)

[hoosiercaniac]

Aaryn...I like jersey #7.

:)

[caniac369]

I like #2

[caniac369]

I like #2

[Jeff O Rocks]

I vote for #6..I like the big letters for CANES.. :spin:

[AbNormal27]

Thanks for all your replies and comments. What I am really looking for is some input. What would y'all like to see? What modifications could I make to the 9 I have posted that would make them more pleasing to you? Who among you would like to help me stick these ideas up Ken Lehner's nose (kidding)?

Aaryn

[StormShaman]

There's actually a very good reason why the 'Canes won't accept submissions of this type from fans--it's the same reason why authors won't read unsolicited manuscripts from fans:

Plagiarism.

Allow me to be more specific:

Let's say that I'm a successful science-fiction author (or a writer of murder mysteries, or westerns, or whatever). J. Random Fan sends me a manuscript for "this really awesome story" that he wrote. If I read that manuscript or do anything other than send it back unread with a letter saying "I'm sorry, I can't look at this", then I open myself up for a potential lawsuit from J. Random Fan sometime down the road should I wind up publishing a book that's similar to his manuscript in any way, shape, or form.

Don't laugh, stuff like this can and does happen.

That is why Ken Lehner sent you the response he did, Aaryn. It protects you, and it protects the 'Canes.

It wasn't a "piss off"--it was a "We don't want to risk a potential lawsuit, because we don't know you from Adam and have no way of knowing whether or not you'd sue us if we wound up using something similar to your idea."

Just my 1/50 of a dollar

[AbNormal27]

Actually, in this sense, no there is no "Plagiarism" since none of concepts were ever submitted. But I do understand your example. I emailed Mr. Lehner asking how to go about submitting these to the Hurricanes through proper channels.

Keep in mind, I do work as a Prepress Technician / Graphic Designer for a Printing and Publishing company, and I do understand "intellectual rights" to work (ie: solicited or unsolicited work and the use of copyrighted logos and images).

I am still trying to get the Hurricanes to look at these or put me in touch with the Advertising Agnecy they are using for other promotional materials or their internal Media Design department, which ever the case may be, so that I avoid the types of issues your scenario touches on. Thank you for your concern in this area. It's all under control.

Aaryn

[hyena]

my favorite is still number 2. i also like number 9 but i don't like the grey...could you do one like that with red or black instead of grey?

my favorites are the ones with just the alternate flag logo, no writing or anything else -- i think it's too cluttered with all that stuff, it's best to just keep it simple.

if they do come out with a 3rd jersey sometime, i wouldn't be surprised if it ends up looking like one of yours....if they have good taste, that is. http://www.electrichyena.com/other/redthumb.gif

[Turbulence]

Of course if they do use one of yours they'd have to put a big tag on the back that says DESIGNED BY AARYN...:)

The C A N E S definitely makes it look cluttered on 3,4,5,6 and 7. I'd stick to just a logo. If I were to pick two that really grab me as fantastic are 8 and 9. I really like the use of black, but I think it's important not to have black-overkill (as in #2) and integrate some red on the sides. 7 definitely looks more 'sleek' with the red on the sides of the torso. The grey on the shoulders looks a bit out of place. I suppose on ice and made of real fabric it would look different, but on 'paper' it looks bland. I'd try to use either Red or Black there...black would probably make the most sense.

Very good though....I'd love to see any of these jerseys on the ice!

[Ashleygirl]

My jersey design is coming along too. I sewed one up , but I hated the fabric (too thin and didn't hang right), so I started over. I hope to finish this weekend and will wear it to the next home game. This has been a fun project!!

[lvscolencanes]

Thats cool making one and all...look forward to seeing it!

But Aaryn, I said it in another thread you have done an awesome job, and I just LOVE #3....I am always different.. :D

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Aaryn! Those are all so great! I don't have much input to add because I'm just not creative enough. My favorites are #2 and #9. I'm like hyena....I like to keep it simple. I'm not a fan of the color gradients and I don't much like the diagonal sections of color. I'm pretty boring. I actually like #4 pretty well but overall I like just the strom flag on the front because I'm just a fan of one main chest logo without the extras. So, basically, they are all very appealing designs but because of my really purist attitde about hockey jerseys I like #2 and #9 best. :)

[Stormbringer]

Since everybody else has given their opinions and picks, I'll chime in with a little more than just "Me like.". ;)

Favorite design?

A little tricky but not too, since I like the gradients, but am also a member of the "KISS Army" too. With that said, I find myself the most partial to jersey designs number one and three. Overall though, three wins out because of it being simple, there not being too much going on, and it being my general idea for quite sometime of what the Canes' third jerseys should look like. Though, another design I think would be a cool idea is similar to your design #6 Aaryn...take design number three, and replace the flag logo on that with the diagonal "CANES" or "CAROLINA". The result would be a (IMO) neat design that would be reminiscent of the classic Pens' jersey that featured "PITTSBURGH" running across diagonally.

Nitpicks:

Just one...the flag logo designs with the sun circling around (Which, I know hails from the Canes' Summer Hockey Camp logo. :)) reminds me just a little too much of the Florida Panthers' secondary logo (http://www.laughinghyena.net/LogoServer/hockey/FloridaPanthers8.GIF). But other than that, it does make for an unique use of the Canes' secondary logo.