Photography Enthusiasts Thread

[MeanGene]

There are a few people on here who are into photography. Let's use this thread to discuss photography and different tips/tricks/photoshop etc.......

I will start. Here is what I have

Canon Digital Rebel w/kit lens
Canon 50 MM 1.8 lens
75-300 Canon Zoom Lens
Speedlight Flash
Lightsphere
Studio Lights
Backgrounds
Light Meter
Backdrop Stand
5 in one reflector

If you do not have a 50 mm lens, it is a great buy. It is around $79-99 dollars depending on where you get it. It is very fast and light. The lens very sharp. Since it is pretty cheap, it may not last for more than 2 years, but it is worth it. A.K.A, Fantastic Plastic!

[MeanGene]

There are a few people on here who are into photography. Let's use this thread to discuss photography and different tips/tricks/photoshop etc.......

I will start. Here is what I have

Canon Digital Rebel w/kit lens
Canon 50 MM 1.8 lens
75-300 Canon Zoom Lens
Speedlight Flash
Lightsphere
Studio Lights
Backgrounds
Light Meter
Backdrop Stand
5 in one reflector

If you do not have a 50 mm lens, it is a great buy. It is around $79-99 dollars depending on where you get it. It is very fast and light. The lens very sharp. Since it is pretty cheap, it may not last for more than 2 years, but it is worth it. A.K.A, Fantastic Plastic!

[IceSaber]

OK, you knew I'd be here...

Canon Digital Rebel and the 35mm Rebel.
Sigma 70-300mm 4-5.6 lens
sigma 24-70mm lens
and the new Canon 70-300mm 4-5.6 IS lens (I really wanted one that was a little faster, but finances prohibit it!

That's it for me...the IS lens is really making the action shots at he RBC a little clearer and more of the warm up shots come out as the ladie's thread can attest...

[IceSaber]

OK, you knew I'd be here...

Canon Digital Rebel and the 35mm Rebel.
Sigma 70-300mm 4-5.6 lens
sigma 24-70mm lens
and the new Canon 70-300mm 4-5.6 IS lens (I really wanted one that was a little faster, but finances prohibit it!

That's it for me...the IS lens is really making the action shots at he RBC a little clearer and more of the warm up shots come out as the ladie's thread can attest...

[Night Train]

HP 4.1 MP Digital camera, no accessories. I take a ton of pics, though.

[Night Train]

HP 4.1 MP Digital camera, no accessories. I take a ton of pics, though.

[StormChaserBH]

Nowhere near as into it as some of y'all.... I've got an Olympus C770-Ultra Zoom (http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/c770uz.html). The 10x optical zoom is awesome, and the 512MB xD card I added holds a metric buttload of pictures.

I bring it to the games half of the time or so. Maybe I'll post to the Game Photo thread one day, but I can't compete with some of the current entries... :D

[StormChaserBH]

Nowhere near as into it as some of y'all.... I've got an Olympus C770-Ultra Zoom (http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/c770uz.html). The 10x optical zoom is awesome, and the 512MB xD card I added holds a metric buttload of pictures.

I bring it to the games half of the time or so. Maybe I'll post to the Game Photo thread one day, but I can't compete with some of the current entries... :D

[MeanGene]

Feel free to post pics of anything that you take here. You can host pictures for free on Photobucket.com.

[MeanGene]

Feel free to post pics of anything that you take here. You can host pictures for free on Photobucket.com.

[corylav]

Nowhere near as into it as some of y'all.... I've got an Olympus C770-Ultra Zoom (http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/c770uz.html). The 10x optical zoom is awesome, and the 512MB xD card I added holds a metric buttload of pictures.

I bring it to the games half of the time or so. Maybe I'll post to the Game Photo thread one day, but I can't compete with some of the current entries... :D

same here ... I have a C740, and I think it's great for a mid-range digital.

I'm no pro, but here's some shots I've taken (some from my front yard, some at the NC Zoo):

http://corylav.smugmug.com/photos/6838966-M.jpg

http://corylav.smugmug.com/photos/6607301-M.jpg

http://corylav.smugmug.com/photos/18490251-M.jpg

http://corylav.smugmug.com/photos/18490551-M.jpg

http://corylav.smugmug.com/photos/18490000-M.jpg

http://corylav.smugmug.com/photos/18490112-M.jpg

[corylav]

Nowhere near as into it as some of y'all.... I've got an Olympus C770-Ultra Zoom (http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/c770uz.html). The 10x optical zoom is awesome, and the 512MB xD card I added holds a metric buttload of pictures.

I bring it to the games half of the time or so. Maybe I'll post to the Game Photo thread one day, but I can't compete with some of the current entries... :D

same here ... I have a C740, and I think it's great for a mid-range digital.

I'm no pro, but here's some shots I've taken (some from my front yard, some at the NC Zoo):

http://corylav.smugmug.com/photos/6838966-M.jpg

http://corylav.smugmug.com/photos/6607301-M.jpg

http://corylav.smugmug.com/photos/18490251-M.jpg

http://corylav.smugmug.com/photos/18490551-M.jpg

http://corylav.smugmug.com/photos/18490000-M.jpg

http://corylav.smugmug.com/photos/18490112-M.jpg

[Guyute]

has anyone used both the Digital Rebel and a Nikon D70?
At first I was considering the DR, seems like a solid camera, and has had the biggest price drops of most of the consumer-level D-SLRs.

but everything I've seen of/from and heard about the D70 is it's pretty much unbeatable, and worth the extra couple hundred. (and what is on my list currently)
if anyone has any first hand experience with Both, I'd love to hear it.

my two main needs are fps (cole moves like the wind. lol) and macro ability for shots of my reef.

[Guyute]

has anyone used both the Digital Rebel and a Nikon D70?
At first I was considering the DR, seems like a solid camera, and has had the biggest price drops of most of the consumer-level D-SLRs.

but everything I've seen of/from and heard about the D70 is it's pretty much unbeatable, and worth the extra couple hundred. (and what is on my list currently)
if anyone has any first hand experience with Both, I'd love to hear it.

my two main needs are fps (cole moves like the wind. lol) and macro ability for shots of my reef.

[Mona]

Awesome pics corylav. :)

[Mona]

Awesome pics corylav. :)

[Captain Slack]

*cracks knuckles*

OK, here's the current equipment list:

SLR:
Nikon D70s
Nikon FE
Nikon Series E 50mm f/1.8
Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 D
SB-10 Speedlite flash

Rangefinder:
Leica IIF
Cosina Voigtlander Bessa-T
Kiev 4AM
Canon Canonet QL17 G-III
FED 2d
Elmar 50mm f/3.5
Jupiter 8 50mm f/2
Industar-26M 50mm f/2
Jupiter-12 35mm f/2.8
Helios 103 50mm f/1.8

Medium Format:
Yashica D TLR

Oh, also a tripod and a homemade lightbox.

Yeah, I'm a bit of a camera buff. :D

Guyute: I've only had my D70s for a little while, but it's an excellent camera! The main advantage to it is that you can use any of the older Nikon lens and accessories going back to the '60's and '70's. You might be able to use all of the cameras features, but the lenses will mount and function.

Gene: 50mm's are INDEPENSIBLE!! Especially if you're shooting rangefinders, which are my favs.

[Captain Slack]

*cracks knuckles*

OK, here's the current equipment list:

SLR:
Nikon D70s
Nikon FE
Nikon Series E 50mm f/1.8
Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 D
SB-10 Speedlite flash

Rangefinder:
Leica IIF
Cosina Voigtlander Bessa-T
Kiev 4AM
Canon Canonet QL17 G-III
FED 2d
Elmar 50mm f/3.5
Jupiter 8 50mm f/2
Industar-26M 50mm f/2
Jupiter-12 35mm f/2.8
Helios 103 50mm f/1.8

Medium Format:
Yashica D TLR

Oh, also a tripod and a homemade lightbox.

Yeah, I'm a bit of a camera buff. :D

Guyute: I've only had my D70s for a little while, but it's an excellent camera! The main advantage to it is that you can use any of the older Nikon lens and accessories going back to the '60's and '70's. You might be able to use all of the cameras features, but the lenses will mount and function.

Gene: 50mm's are INDEPENSIBLE!! Especially if you're shooting rangefinders, which are my favs.

[Guyute]

very handy to know, thanks CS.

and major grats on your new toy!!! :D

[Guyute]

very handy to know, thanks CS.

and major grats on your new toy!!! :D

[Captain Slack]

Here's a couple of my pics. The first was taken with a the Canonet and the second with another rangefinder, a Minolta A5.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/data/500/The_Look2.jpg

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/data/4175/stream.jpg

[Captain Slack]

Here's a couple of my pics. The first was taken with a the Canonet and the second with another rangefinder, a Minolta A5.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/data/500/The_Look2.jpg

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/data/4175/stream.jpg

[IceSaber]

OK - we need to have CS give classes. Can you help me with my pics and tell me what I'm doing wrong???

[IceSaber]

OK - we need to have CS give classes. Can you help me with my pics and tell me what I'm doing wrong???

[nccanes]

Well, I'm another Canon person, but I don't have a digi body (yet)!

So, my list is short.

Canon Elan II SLR 35mm Body
Canon EF 28-105 3.5-4.5 Zoom
Canon EF 100-300 4.5-5.6 Zoom

Not much else - a tripod here, a light meter there.

[nccanes]

Well, I'm another Canon person, but I don't have a digi body (yet)!

So, my list is short.

Canon Elan II SLR 35mm Body
Canon EF 28-105 3.5-4.5 Zoom
Canon EF 100-300 4.5-5.6 Zoom

Not much else - a tripod here, a light meter there.

[Captain Slack]

OK - we need to have CS give classes. Can you help me with my pics and tell me what I'm doing wrong???

If I can. I got my minor in photography at App State. Show us some of your shots!

[Captain Slack]

OK - we need to have CS give classes. Can you help me with my pics and tell me what I'm doing wrong???

If I can. I got my minor in photography at App State. Show us some of your shots!

[raleighcanesfan]

I am all for bw and sepia photos.

I may buck the trend, but I much prefer Macromedia's Fireworks and Google's Picasa for digital manipulation. Fireworks is almost exclusively geared toward preparing pictures for the web, whereas I think Photoshop has the market on regular manipulation and web manipulation. Picasa is nice because the wife uses it, as it's ease is it's most powerful feature. Plus it's free!

What do you all use?

[raleighcanesfan]

I am all for bw and sepia photos.

I may buck the trend, but I much prefer Macromedia's Fireworks and Google's Picasa for digital manipulation. Fireworks is almost exclusively geared toward preparing pictures for the web, whereas I think Photoshop has the market on regular manipulation and web manipulation. Picasa is nice because the wife uses it, as it's ease is it's most powerful feature. Plus it's free!

What do you all use?

[apolinar]

Canon Elan 7e for 35mm
Minolta Dimage for digital

Saving up for the Digital Canon 20D

mostly shoot with my 50mm, have a fish eye, and aspherical wide angle, and the 100-300 zoom F 5.0. Standard cannon flash with a slave.

[apolinar]

Canon Elan 7e for 35mm
Minolta Dimage for digital

Saving up for the Digital Canon 20D

mostly shoot with my 50mm, have a fish eye, and aspherical wide angle, and the 100-300 zoom F 5.0. Standard cannon flash with a slave.

[raleighcanesfan]

I play around with a pinhole camera (QUaker oat box) too. Anyone else do that?

[raleighcanesfan]

I play around with a pinhole camera (QUaker oat box) too. Anyone else do that?

[run-that-way]

Ummmm, the photo camera built into my phone .., :eek:

Ami

p.s. captainslack, what the hell is "rangefinder". Your ever oblivious friend, Ami

[run-that-way]

Ummmm, the photo camera built into my phone .., :eek:

Ami

p.s. captainslack, what the hell is "rangefinder". Your ever oblivious friend, Ami

[Captain Slack]

p.s. captainslack, what the hell is "rangefinder". Your ever oblivious friend, Ami

A rangefinder is a type of focusing system using mirrors where two overlapping images are brought together. When the two images meet, your subject is in focus. Very accurate, but unfortunately, doesn't allow the user to view the subject through the lens like with the camera you gave me for Christmas. However, they're a lot lighter and less bulkier to carry.

I'll show you an example of one next time I'm over at the house.

BTW, you have a camera besides the one on your phone. Remember that Fuji of Chad's? ;)

[Captain Slack]

p.s. captainslack, what the hell is "rangefinder". Your ever oblivious friend, Ami

A rangefinder is a type of focusing system using mirrors where two overlapping images are brought together. When the two images meet, your subject is in focus. Very accurate, but unfortunately, doesn't allow the user to view the subject through the lens like with the camera you gave me for Christmas. However, they're a lot lighter and less bulkier to carry.

I'll show you an example of one next time I'm over at the house.

BTW, you have a camera besides the one on your phone. Remember that Fuji of Chad's? ;)

[Lady J]

:)

My camera is super low-tech, which I prefer ~ I have two 1981 Minolta X-370's. There's a fantastic international artist/photographer community online called DeviantArt for anyone who would be interested in diving into sharing their work with the masses.

This is where I keep my pictures:

http://ladyblakeney.deviantart.com/

[Lady J]

:)

My camera is super low-tech, which I prefer ~ I have two 1981 Minolta X-370's. There's a fantastic international artist/photographer community online called DeviantArt for anyone who would be interested in diving into sharing their work with the masses.

This is where I keep my pictures:

http://ladyblakeney.deviantart.com/

[Lady J]

*cracks knuckles*

OK, here's the current equipment list:

SLR:
Nikon D70s
Nikon FE
Nikon Series E 50mm f/1.8
Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 D
SB-10 Speedlite flash

Rangefinder:
Leica IIF
Cosina Voigtlander Bessa-T
Kiev 4AM
Canon Canonet QL17 G-III
FED 2d
Elmar 50mm f/3.5
Jupiter 8 50mm f/2
Industar-26M 50mm f/2
Jupiter-12 35mm f/2.8
Helios 103 50mm f/1.8

Medium Format:
Yashica D TLR

Oh, also a tripod and a homemade lightbox.

Yeah, I'm a bit of a camera buff. :D

Guyute: I've only had my D70s for a little while, but it's an excellent camera! The main advantage to it is that you can use any of the older Nikon lens and accessories going back to the '60's and '70's. You might be able to use all of the cameras features, but the lenses will mount and function.

Gene: 50mm's are INDEPENSIBLE!! Especially if you're shooting rangefinders, which are my favs.


Ack! You have a medium format camera! I'm so envious. I want to come over and play with YOUR toys. :)

[Lady J]

*cracks knuckles*

OK, here's the current equipment list:

SLR:
Nikon D70s
Nikon FE
Nikon Series E 50mm f/1.8
Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 D
SB-10 Speedlite flash

Rangefinder:
Leica IIF
Cosina Voigtlander Bessa-T
Kiev 4AM
Canon Canonet QL17 G-III
FED 2d
Elmar 50mm f/3.5
Jupiter 8 50mm f/2
Industar-26M 50mm f/2
Jupiter-12 35mm f/2.8
Helios 103 50mm f/1.8

Medium Format:
Yashica D TLR

Oh, also a tripod and a homemade lightbox.

Yeah, I'm a bit of a camera buff. :D

Guyute: I've only had my D70s for a little while, but it's an excellent camera! The main advantage to it is that you can use any of the older Nikon lens and accessories going back to the '60's and '70's. You might be able to use all of the cameras features, but the lenses will mount and function.

Gene: 50mm's are INDEPENSIBLE!! Especially if you're shooting rangefinders, which are my favs.


Ack! You have a medium format camera! I'm so envious. I want to come over and play with YOUR toys. :)

[MeanGene]

Here is one more from the game against the Isles.

The first one is straght out of the camera and the other one is photoshopped.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/packncanes/Hockey070.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/packncanes/staal1.jpg

Here is one with Oleg wondering where his help is. Little tip for you:
Keep that head up when surrounded by all of those opposing players while carrying the puck! :beatup:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/packncanes/839b0700.jpg

[MeanGene]

Here is one more from the game against the Isles.

The first one is straght out of the camera and the other one is photoshopped.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/packncanes/Hockey070.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/packncanes/staal1.jpg

Here is one with Oleg wondering where his help is. Little tip for you:
Keep that head up when surrounded by all of those opposing players while carrying the puck! :beatup:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/packncanes/839b0700.jpg

[corylav]

Photoshop pointer: to get your colors to pop out more, try messing with curves and the color balance (both in Image ==> Adjustments). For this, I just grabbed the line in curves right in the middle and dragged it so it arched toward the top left corner. I also slid the contrast (under Brightness/Contrast ... same path as above) to +15.

http://corylav.smugmug.com/photos/52096003-L.jpg

[corylav]

Photoshop pointer: to get your colors to pop out more, try messing with curves and the color balance (both in Image ==> Adjustments). For this, I just grabbed the line in curves right in the middle and dragged it so it arched toward the top left corner. I also slid the contrast (under Brightness/Contrast ... same path as above) to +15.

http://corylav.smugmug.com/photos/52096003-L.jpg

[MeanGene]

I actually did fix it, I just posted the wrong one. I do always forget about the brightness/contrast slider though.

[MeanGene]

I actually did fix it, I just posted the wrong one. I do always forget about the brightness/contrast slider though.

[Captain Slack]

Ack! You have a medium format camera! I'm so envious. I want to come over and play with YOUR toys. :)

Any time! :D

Believe it or not, I got that one from the flea market two weeks ago for $30!

Prices on medium format have dropped to unheard of levels in the last year. Digital has just killed that market. A salesman at Peace Camera showed me a Maimya 6X6 SLR for under $200 and that included a lens!

Actually, I've got an old folding camera that shots MF film that I'm probably not going to use anymore. You want it?

[Captain Slack]

Ack! You have a medium format camera! I'm so envious. I want to come over and play with YOUR toys. :)

Any time! :D

Believe it or not, I got that one from the flea market two weeks ago for $30!

Prices on medium format have dropped to unheard of levels in the last year. Digital has just killed that market. A salesman at Peace Camera showed me a Maimya 6X6 SLR for under $200 and that included a lens!

Actually, I've got an old folding camera that shots MF film that I'm probably not going to use anymore. You want it?

[Lady J]

Any time! :D

Believe it or not, I got that one from the flea market two weeks ago for $30!

Prices on medium format have dropped to unheard of levels in the last year. Digital has just killed that market. A salesman at Peace Camera showed me a Maimya 6X6 SLR for under $200 and that included a lens!

Actually, I've got an old folding camera that shots MF film that I'm probably not going to use anymore. You want it?

$30?! What a coup! I hear about flea markets where people get these fabulous deals, but apparently they don't exist on the same cosmic plane as I do. Phooey. :|

The prices going lower is fantastic ~ at this rate, I thought I'd be able to afford a medium format camera by the time I was 80.

I would LOVE to have your old camera. You're such a gent. Muchos muchos gracias, Senor Wade. :D Of course, you'll have to explain to me exactly how it works as I'm a greenhorn with MF.

[Lady J]

Any time! :D

Believe it or not, I got that one from the flea market two weeks ago for $30!

Prices on medium format have dropped to unheard of levels in the last year. Digital has just killed that market. A salesman at Peace Camera showed me a Maimya 6X6 SLR for under $200 and that included a lens!

Actually, I've got an old folding camera that shots MF film that I'm probably not going to use anymore. You want it?

$30?! What a coup! I hear about flea markets where people get these fabulous deals, but apparently they don't exist on the same cosmic plane as I do. Phooey. :|

The prices going lower is fantastic ~ at this rate, I thought I'd be able to afford a medium format camera by the time I was 80.

I would LOVE to have your old camera. You're such a gent. Muchos muchos gracias, Senor Wade. :D Of course, you'll have to explain to me exactly how it works as I'm a greenhorn with MF.

[Captain Slack]

I would LOVE to have your old camera. You're such a gent. Muchos muchos gracias, Senor Wade. :D Of course, you'll have to explain to me exactly how it works as I'm a greenhorn with MF.

Not a problem!!! It's as easy as pie. I'll send you a PM about it.

[Captain Slack]

I would LOVE to have your old camera. You're such a gent. Muchos muchos gracias, Senor Wade. :D Of course, you'll have to explain to me exactly how it works as I'm a greenhorn with MF.

Not a problem!!! It's as easy as pie. I'll send you a PM about it.

[IceSaber]

Hey Capt. Slack, I've posted a bunch of my pictures in the Ladie's thread and the gameday threads - I can pick ones that I have problems with and post them here going forward. Basically for every good one I get, I get a bad one. Generally, they are slightly out of focus...I want crisp! I don't generally have the same problems with my zoom outside in the daylight, but occassionally I do on high magnification. It's like the depth of field is really shallow or something. Like only one or two players is in focus and everything else is out. I'm wondering if I need different equipment.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/IceSaber/caps/caps012106049.jpg

[IceSaber]

Hey Capt. Slack, I've posted a bunch of my pictures in the Ladie's thread and the gameday threads - I can pick ones that I have problems with and post them here going forward. Basically for every good one I get, I get a bad one. Generally, they are slightly out of focus...I want crisp! I don't generally have the same problems with my zoom outside in the daylight, but occassionally I do on high magnification. It's like the depth of field is really shallow or something. Like only one or two players is in focus and everything else is out. I'm wondering if I need different equipment.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/IceSaber/caps/caps012106049.jpg

[IceSaber]

Hey Capt. Slack, I've posted a bunch of my pictures in the Ladie's thread and the gameday threads - I can pick ones that I have problems with and post them here going forward. Basically for every good one I get, I get a bad one. Generally, they are slightly out of focus...I want crisp! I don't generally have the same problems with my zoom outside in the daylight, but occassionally I do on high magnification. It's like the depth of field is really shallow or something. Like only one or two players is in focus and everything else is out. I'm wondering if I need different equipment.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/IceSaber/caps/caps012106049.jpg

[Captain Slack]

That one you posted isn't too bad! The problem reason why Heddy is blurry is because he was moving. A higher shutter speed would have solved that. Try using a monopod to steady the camera.

If you're coming to the get together for Abnormal27 this weekend, we can discuss things then.

[Captain Slack]

That one you posted isn't too bad! The problem reason why Heddy is blurry is because he was moving. A higher shutter speed would have solved that. Try using a monopod to steady the camera.

If you're coming to the get together for Abnormal27 this weekend, we can discuss things then.

[Captain Slack]

That one you posted isn't too bad! The problem reason why Heddy is blurry is because he was moving. A higher shutter speed would have solved that. Try using a monopod to steady the camera.

If you're coming to the get together for Abnormal27 this weekend, we can discuss things then.

[nccanes]

I'm not Capt Slack, but I'm pretty sure it's all about the available F-stop, baby. ;)

At the lower aperture settings (the ones you need for a lowly lit setting like the RBC to let in as much light as possible) your depth of field is shallower. So even if the players aren't moving (like Hedican is in this photo), you aren't going to get as many things in focus.

Outside in the daylight, you've got TONS more light available. In the arena, without a really good lens with a wide aperture (mucho dinero), we're all kinda stuck. That's why I quit bringing my camera after 1 game. Just not enough light for my 4.5-5.6 zoom to make it worthwhile. My lens is great for outdoor sports, but I don't have the jack for a 2.8 lens for my 'hobby'.

Seems like you need at least a shutter speed of 1/250 or more for any action photos, but the lighting isn't gonna get you that in a lot of cases.

The other thing is with the big lenses, the weight can cause camera shake because they are a bit heavier (thus CS's monopod suggestion). I've always heard the rule of thumb that you're likely to get some camera shake if you try to hand-hold a lens and use a shutterspeed less than the focal length. So, if I use my 300 zoom and use a shutterspeed less than, say, 1/250 - I'll likely get some camera shake in there that will cause some blurring.

I'm no expert - but I thought I'd add my 2 cents.

Corrections are welcomed!

There's an old thread here:
http://www.letsgocanes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4791&highlight=game+photos

Mr Canesluver has some sweet gear and it shows in his photos.

[nccanes]

I'm not Capt Slack, but I'm pretty sure it's all about the available F-stop, baby. ;)

At the lower aperture settings (the ones you need for a lowly lit setting like the RBC to let in as much light as possible) your depth of field is shallower. So even if the players aren't moving (like Hedican is in this photo), you aren't going to get as many things in focus.

Outside in the daylight, you've got TONS more light available. In the arena, without a really good lens with a wide aperture (mucho dinero), we're all kinda stuck. That's why I quit bringing my camera after 1 game. Just not enough light for my 4.5-5.6 zoom to make it worthwhile. My lens is great for outdoor sports, but I don't have the jack for a 2.8 lens for my 'hobby'.

Seems like you need at least a shutter speed of 1/250 or more for any action photos, but the lighting isn't gonna get you that in a lot of cases.

The other thing is with the big lenses, the weight can cause camera shake because they are a bit heavier (thus CS's monopod suggestion). I've always heard the rule of thumb that you're likely to get some camera shake if you try to hand-hold a lens and use a shutterspeed less than the focal length. So, if I use my 300 zoom and use a shutterspeed less than, say, 1/250 - I'll likely get some camera shake in there that will cause some blurring.

I'm no expert - but I thought I'd add my 2 cents.

Corrections are welcomed!

There's an old thread here:
http://www.letsgocanes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4791&highlight=game+photos

Mr Canesluver has some sweet gear and it shows in his photos.

[nccanes]

I'm not Capt Slack, but I'm pretty sure it's all about the available F-stop, baby. ;)

At the lower aperture settings (the ones you need for a lowly lit setting like the RBC to let in as much light as possible) your depth of field is shallower. So even if the players aren't moving (like Hedican is in this photo), you aren't going to get as many things in focus.

Outside in the daylight, you've got TONS more light available. In the arena, without a really good lens with a wide aperture (mucho dinero), we're all kinda stuck. That's why I quit bringing my camera after 1 game. Just not enough light for my 4.5-5.6 zoom to make it worthwhile. My lens is great for outdoor sports, but I don't have the jack for a 2.8 lens for my 'hobby'.

Seems like you need at least a shutter speed of 1/250 or more for any action photos, but the lighting isn't gonna get you that in a lot of cases.

The other thing is with the big lenses, the weight can cause camera shake because they are a bit heavier (thus CS's monopod suggestion). I've always heard the rule of thumb that you're likely to get some camera shake if you try to hand-hold a lens and use a shutterspeed less than the focal length. So, if I use my 300 zoom and use a shutterspeed less than, say, 1/250 - I'll likely get some camera shake in there that will cause some blurring.

I'm no expert - but I thought I'd add my 2 cents.

Corrections are welcomed!

There's an old thread here:
http://www.letsgocanes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4791&highlight=game+photos

Mr Canesluver has some sweet gear and it shows in his photos.

[Canesluver]

Mr Canesluver has some sweet gear and it shows in his photos.

Yes-- he does! My hands just shake, anytime he asks me told his camera-- 'cause I know how much it cost! :lol:

I haven't posted any in awhile. I need to see if he's gotten anything post-worthy lately.

[Canesluver]

Mr Canesluver has some sweet gear and it shows in his photos.

Yes-- he does! My hands just shake, anytime he asks me told his camera-- 'cause I know how much it cost! :lol:

I haven't posted any in awhile. I need to see if he's gotten anything post-worthy lately.

[Canesluver]

Mr Canesluver has some sweet gear and it shows in his photos.

Yes-- he does! My hands just shake, anytime he asks me told his camera-- 'cause I know how much it cost! :lol:

I haven't posted any in awhile. I need to see if he's gotten anything post-worthy lately.

[nccanes]

Thanks goodness my post actually posted, lol. My machine locked just after I hit submit. Didn't feel like thinking and typing all that again.

The DOF stuff is evident in that Cam stop on Crosby. Both in the players and the clear reaction from the crowd, lol. LOVE that photo.

BTW Ice, you'll notice that the team photogs get the advantage of having wireless access to the big ol' flashes mounted on the ceiling. Notice in this photo of Ladd, post goal, how you see the shadows on each side.

http://www.carolinahurricanes.com/images/wallpaper/2005-06/012306MTL_800.jpg

[nccanes]

Thanks goodness my post actually posted, lol. My machine locked just after I hit submit. Didn't feel like thinking and typing all that again.

The DOF stuff is evident in that Cam stop on Crosby. Both in the players and the clear reaction from the crowd, lol. LOVE that photo.

BTW Ice, you'll notice that the team photogs get the advantage of having wireless access to the big ol' flashes mounted on the ceiling. Notice in this photo of Ladd, post goal, how you see the shadows on each side.

http://www.carolinahurricanes.com/images/wallpaper/2005-06/012306MTL_800.jpg

[nccanes]

Thanks goodness my post actually posted, lol. My machine locked just after I hit submit. Didn't feel like thinking and typing all that again.

The DOF stuff is evident in that Cam stop on Crosby. Both in the players and the clear reaction from the crowd, lol. LOVE that photo.

BTW Ice, you'll notice that the team photogs get the advantage of having wireless access to the big ol' flashes mounted on the ceiling. Notice in this photo of Ladd, post goal, how you see the shadows on each side.

http://www.carolinahurricanes.com/images/wallpaper/2005-06/012306MTL_800.jpg

[IceSaber]

The flash is cheating!

What does mR. Canesluver have...does he have that 2.8? I thought about it...with my bonus...I just couldn't do it. If I could figure how to do freelance work and maybe sell some of the shots, I MIGHT be able to justify it. I just need to find a way to turn my hobby into a bit of a self funding thingy.... His shot (mr. canesluver) was all in focus - the people, the players - all....

[IceSaber]

The flash is cheating!

What does mR. Canesluver have...does he have that 2.8? I thought about it...with my bonus...I just couldn't do it. If I could figure how to do freelance work and maybe sell some of the shots, I MIGHT be able to justify it. I just need to find a way to turn my hobby into a bit of a self funding thingy.... His shot (mr. canesluver) was all in focus - the people, the players - all....

[IceSaber]

The flash is cheating!

What does mR. Canesluver have...does he have that 2.8? I thought about it...with my bonus...I just couldn't do it. If I could figure how to do freelance work and maybe sell some of the shots, I MIGHT be able to justify it. I just need to find a way to turn my hobby into a bit of a self funding thingy.... His shot (mr. canesluver) was all in focus - the people, the players - all....

[Canesluver]

What does mR. Canesluver have...does he have that 2.8? I thought about it...with my bonus...I just couldn't do it. If I could figure how to do freelance work and maybe sell some of the shots, I MIGHT be able to justify it. I just need to find a way to turn my hobby into a bit of a self funding thingy.... His shot (mr. canesluver) was all in focus - the people, the players - all....

I.S. - he uses a Nikon D100. He said for that shot, he used his 80-200mm zoom lens, f2.8.

He was a professional photographer for the Army, and even used to have his own dark room. He switched to exclusively digital about 5 years ago.

He's mostly a nature and animal photographer, but in the last year, has been really interested in improving his skills at capturing motion--thus his keen interest in shooting the games.

He had a show this past August at April & George on Glenwood South, and they're inviting him back for a Spring show in April or May. Date's not set yet.

[Canesluver]

What does mR. Canesluver have...does he have that 2.8? I thought about it...with my bonus...I just couldn't do it. If I could figure how to do freelance work and maybe sell some of the shots, I MIGHT be able to justify it. I just need to find a way to turn my hobby into a bit of a self funding thingy.... His shot (mr. canesluver) was all in focus - the people, the players - all....

I.S. - he uses a Nikon D100. He said for that shot, he used his 80-200mm zoom lens, f2.8.

He was a professional photographer for the Army, and even used to have his own dark room. He switched to exclusively digital about 5 years ago.

He's mostly a nature and animal photographer, but in the last year, has been really interested in improving his skills at capturing motion--thus his keen interest in shooting the games.

He had a show this past August at April & George on Glenwood South, and they're inviting him back for a Spring show in April or May. Date's not set yet.

[Canesluver]

What does mR. Canesluver have...does he have that 2.8? I thought about it...with my bonus...I just couldn't do it. If I could figure how to do freelance work and maybe sell some of the shots, I MIGHT be able to justify it. I just need to find a way to turn my hobby into a bit of a self funding thingy.... His shot (mr. canesluver) was all in focus - the people, the players - all....

I.S. - he uses a Nikon D100. He said for that shot, he used his 80-200mm zoom lens, f2.8.

He was a professional photographer for the Army, and even used to have his own dark room. He switched to exclusively digital about 5 years ago.

He's mostly a nature and animal photographer, but in the last year, has been really interested in improving his skills at capturing motion--thus his keen interest in shooting the games.

He had a show this past August at April & George on Glenwood South, and they're inviting him back for a Spring show in April or May. Date's not set yet.

[IceSaber]

I'd love to see it - be sure to post if he shows.

I had almost thought about getting that camera back wehn I bought...I'll just have to start saving for the 2.8.....in the meantime, I'm going to try a monopod type hookup...

Thank you so much!!!!

[IceSaber]

I'd love to see it - be sure to post if he shows.

I had almost thought about getting that camera back wehn I bought...I'll just have to start saving for the 2.8.....in the meantime, I'm going to try a monopod type hookup...

Thank you so much!!!!

[IceSaber]

I'd love to see it - be sure to post if he shows.

I had almost thought about getting that camera back wehn I bought...I'll just have to start saving for the 2.8.....in the meantime, I'm going to try a monopod type hookup...

Thank you so much!!!!

[Captain Slack]

I.S. - he uses a Nikon D100. He said for that shot, he used his 80-200mm zoom lens, f2.8.

I need one of those. My 24-70 f/2.8 just doesn't cut it from way up in the third level.

IceSaber: Peace Camera on Peace St. in Raleigh and Southeastern Camera (various locations) will have the best selection of monopods. I need to get one myself. Need to stop buying other equipment for awhile. :beatup:

[Captain Slack]

I.S. - he uses a Nikon D100. He said for that shot, he used his 80-200mm zoom lens, f2.8.

I need one of those. My 24-70 f/2.8 just doesn't cut it from way up in the third level.

IceSaber: Peace Camera on Peace St. in Raleigh and Southeastern Camera (various locations) will have the best selection of monopods. I need to get one myself. Need to stop buying other equipment for awhile. :beatup:

[Captain Slack]

I.S. - he uses a Nikon D100. He said for that shot, he used his 80-200mm zoom lens, f2.8.

I need one of those. My 24-70 f/2.8 just doesn't cut it from way up in the third level.

IceSaber: Peace Camera on Peace St. in Raleigh and Southeastern Camera (various locations) will have the best selection of monopods. I need to get one myself. Need to stop buying other equipment for awhile. :beatup:

[Brunolover25]

Technically they're not flash units they're strobes. The big difference between the two is that you can not power down a flash unit on a camera for instance, unless you place a piece of diffusion material over it. A strobe can have it's level of power turned up and down, creating a brighter or a less-intense flash.




BTW Ice, you'll notice that the team photogs get the advantage of having wireless access to the big ol' flashes mounted on the ceiling. Notice in this photo of Ladd, post goal, how you see the shadows on each side.

http://www.carolinahurricanes.com/images/wallpaper/2005-06/012306MTL_800.jpg

[Brunolover25]

Technically they're not flash units they're strobes. The big difference between the two is that you can not power down a flash unit on a camera for instance, unless you place a piece of diffusion material over it. A strobe can have it's level of power turned up and down, creating a brighter or a less-intense flash.




BTW Ice, you'll notice that the team photogs get the advantage of having wireless access to the big ol' flashes mounted on the ceiling. Notice in this photo of Ladd, post goal, how you see the shadows on each side.

http://www.carolinahurricanes.com/images/wallpaper/2005-06/012306MTL_800.jpg

[Brunolover25]

Technically they're not flash units they're strobes. The big difference between the two is that you can not power down a flash unit on a camera for instance, unless you place a piece of diffusion material over it. A strobe can have it's level of power turned up and down, creating a brighter or a less-intense flash.




BTW Ice, you'll notice that the team photogs get the advantage of having wireless access to the big ol' flashes mounted on the ceiling. Notice in this photo of Ladd, post goal, how you see the shadows on each side.

http://www.carolinahurricanes.com/images/wallpaper/2005-06/012306MTL_800.jpg

[MeanGene]

I wonder if we can attach a pocket wizard on our cameras and get into the strobe system at the RBC!! Can't be more than 4 channels to try! :D

[MeanGene]

I wonder if we can attach a pocket wizard on our cameras and get into the strobe system at the RBC!! Can't be more than 4 channels to try! :D

[MeanGene]

I wonder if we can attach a pocket wizard on our cameras and get into the strobe system at the RBC!! Can't be more than 4 channels to try! :D

[rkbrasse]

Gear -

An old Sony Mavica.
An Nikon coolpix S3.
And a Powershot SD500.

Been taking a few photos in Washington DC since I moved to Maryland.

http://trickyankles.typepad.com/photos/washington_site_seeing/index.html
http://trickyankles.typepad.com/photos/mollyntucker/index.html
http://trickyankles.typepad.com/photos/fishy/index.html

[rkbrasse]

Gear -

An old Sony Mavica.
An Nikon coolpix S3.
And a Powershot SD500.

Been taking a few photos in Washington DC since I moved to Maryland.

http://trickyankles.typepad.com/photos/washington_site_seeing/index.html
http://trickyankles.typepad.com/photos/mollyntucker/index.html
http://trickyankles.typepad.com/photos/fishy/index.html

[rkbrasse]

Gear -

An old Sony Mavica.
An Nikon coolpix S3.
And a Powershot SD500.

Been taking a few photos in Washington DC since I moved to Maryland.

http://trickyankles.typepad.com/photos/washington_site_seeing/index.html
http://trickyankles.typepad.com/photos/mollyntucker/index.html
http://trickyankles.typepad.com/photos/fishy/index.html

[Night Train]

HP Photosmart M407

Enjoy....
http://onebadknee.typepad.com/photos/wilmington_uss_north_caro/index.html
http://onebadknee.typepad.com/photos/vacation_05_nyc/index.html
http://onebadknee.typepad.com/photos/great_smoky_mountains_101/index.html
http://onebadknee.typepad.com/photos/mountains_7205/index.html
http://onebadknee.typepad.com/photos/eds_photos_virginia_mount/index.html

[Night Train]

HP Photosmart M407

Enjoy....
http://onebadknee.typepad.com/photos/wilmington_uss_north_caro/index.html
http://onebadknee.typepad.com/photos/vacation_05_nyc/index.html
http://onebadknee.typepad.com/photos/great_smoky_mountains_101/index.html
http://onebadknee.typepad.com/photos/mountains_7205/index.html
http://onebadknee.typepad.com/photos/eds_photos_virginia_mount/index.html

[Night Train]

HP Photosmart M407

Enjoy....
http://onebadknee.typepad.com/photos/wilmington_uss_north_caro/index.html
http://onebadknee.typepad.com/photos/vacation_05_nyc/index.html
http://onebadknee.typepad.com/photos/great_smoky_mountains_101/index.html
http://onebadknee.typepad.com/photos/mountains_7205/index.html
http://onebadknee.typepad.com/photos/eds_photos_virginia_mount/index.html

[puckin_A]

I a big photo nut and love to take pics at the games but finally just got disgusted with the glass in front of my seats!!! TOO MANY puck marks and scratches so I gave up.

I have a c770 Olympus (10x optical zoom) that I would have to take a bazillion pics to get a really decent one. I am very picky when it comes to focus of my pics. My son has a Canon Rebel and that is the one that I was starting to use this season until I gave up. NICE CAMERA!!

but it doesn't have a zoom lens.

Icesaber....how much did your 300mm cost?

[puckin_A]

I a big photo nut and love to take pics at the games but finally just got disgusted with the glass in front of my seats!!! TOO MANY puck marks and scratches so I gave up.

I have a c770 Olympus (10x optical zoom) that I would have to take a bazillion pics to get a really decent one. I am very picky when it comes to focus of my pics. My son has a Canon Rebel and that is the one that I was starting to use this season until I gave up. NICE CAMERA!!

but it doesn't have a zoom lens.

Icesaber....how much did your 300mm cost?

[puckin_A]

I a big photo nut and love to take pics at the games but finally just got disgusted with the glass in front of my seats!!! TOO MANY puck marks and scratches so I gave up.

I have a c770 Olympus (10x optical zoom) that I would have to take a bazillion pics to get a really decent one. I am very picky when it comes to focus of my pics. My son has a Canon Rebel and that is the one that I was starting to use this season until I gave up. NICE CAMERA!!

but it doesn't have a zoom lens.

Icesaber....how much did your 300mm cost?

[puckin_A]

one thing I have to say is taking hockey pictures is the biggest challenge because of the lighting and the ice reflection. I notice the professional for the Canes has it rigged that when he takes a pic, the flash actually comes from above the ice.

[puckin_A]

one thing I have to say is taking hockey pictures is the biggest challenge because of the lighting and the ice reflection. I notice the professional for the Canes has it rigged that when he takes a pic, the flash actually comes from above the ice.

[puckin_A]

one thing I have to say is taking hockey pictures is the biggest challenge because of the lighting and the ice reflection. I notice the professional for the Canes has it rigged that when he takes a pic, the flash actually comes from above the ice.

[Night Train]

What do you guys (and gals) do for medium light situations (a la the Francis ceremony)? I had a terrible time getting good shots of the banner being raised.

[Night Train]

What do you guys (and gals) do for medium light situations (a la the Francis ceremony)? I had a terrible time getting good shots of the banner being raised.

[Night Train]

What do you guys (and gals) do for medium light situations (a la the Francis ceremony)? I had a terrible time getting good shots of the banner being raised.

[IceSaber]

Unfortunately, I was on the wrong side of the ice for the banner raising - had I been on the other side, I think I'd have done OK - because of the spot light. I used the low light setting on my Rebel. I usually use the sports setting for the game shots so there's no flash. The IS 300 zoom set me back about $500 - it was my X-mas present to myself.

With people blocking my way and them facing the other direction, this was the best I could do...note that my depth of field isn't that deep because I'm guessing the f-stop thing we talked about earlier - these all ran in the range of 5.6 I think - If I had the expensive 2.8 lens, the whole picture would have been in focus...Canesluver??? Is that right???

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/IceSaber/ronfrancisnight/atl012806169.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/IceSaber/ronfrancisnight/atl012806006.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/IceSaber/ronfrancisnight/atl012806166.jpg

[IceSaber]

Unfortunately, I was on the wrong side of the ice for the banner raising - had I been on the other side, I think I'd have done OK - because of the spot light. I used the low light setting on my Rebel. I usually use the sports setting for the game shots so there's no flash. The IS 300 zoom set me back about $500 - it was my X-mas present to myself.

With people blocking my way and them facing the other direction, this was the best I could do...note that my depth of field isn't that deep because I'm guessing the f-stop thing we talked about earlier - these all ran in the range of 5.6 I think - If I had the expensive 2.8 lens, the whole picture would have been in focus...Canesluver??? Is that right???

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/IceSaber/ronfrancisnight/atl012806169.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/IceSaber/ronfrancisnight/atl012806006.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/IceSaber/ronfrancisnight/atl012806166.jpg

[IceSaber]

Unfortunately, I was on the wrong side of the ice for the banner raising - had I been on the other side, I think I'd have done OK - because of the spot light. I used the low light setting on my Rebel. I usually use the sports setting for the game shots so there's no flash. The IS 300 zoom set me back about $500 - it was my X-mas present to myself.

With people blocking my way and them facing the other direction, this was the best I could do...note that my depth of field isn't that deep because I'm guessing the f-stop thing we talked about earlier - these all ran in the range of 5.6 I think - If I had the expensive 2.8 lens, the whole picture would have been in focus...Canesluver??? Is that right???

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/IceSaber/ronfrancisnight/atl012806169.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/IceSaber/ronfrancisnight/atl012806006.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/IceSaber/ronfrancisnight/atl012806166.jpg

[Captain Slack]

If I had the expensive 2.8 lens, the whole picture would have been in focus...Canesluver??? Is that right???

You've got it backwards. The lower the number of the f/stop (which is a wider lens opening) setting the shallower the depth of field (less focus). If you want more focus, you'll need a smaller lens opening, thus a higher numbered f/stop.

Try this exercise out and you'll see what I'm talking about:

Find a fence or a line of trees and set your camera up along it. Change either to manual or aperature priority mode, whichever your camera has that will allow you to manually set your f/stop. Take the same shot down the fence, treeline, whatever, but change the f/stop with each shot. You'll see the difference in depth of field at each setting. You can then use this as a reference when you're in the arena.

[Captain Slack]

If I had the expensive 2.8 lens, the whole picture would have been in focus...Canesluver??? Is that right???

You've got it backwards. The lower the number of the f/stop (which is a wider lens opening) setting the shallower the depth of field (less focus). If you want more focus, you'll need a smaller lens opening, thus a higher numbered f/stop.

Try this exercise out and you'll see what I'm talking about:

Find a fence or a line of trees and set your camera up along it. Change either to manual or aperature priority mode, whichever your camera has that will allow you to manually set your f/stop. Take the same shot down the fence, treeline, whatever, but change the f/stop with each shot. You'll see the difference in depth of field at each setting. You can then use this as a reference when you're in the arena.

[Captain Slack]

If I had the expensive 2.8 lens, the whole picture would have been in focus...Canesluver??? Is that right???

You've got it backwards. The lower the number of the f/stop (which is a wider lens opening) setting the shallower the depth of field (less focus). If you want more focus, you'll need a smaller lens opening, thus a higher numbered f/stop.

Try this exercise out and you'll see what I'm talking about:

Find a fence or a line of trees and set your camera up along it. Change either to manual or aperature priority mode, whichever your camera has that will allow you to manually set your f/stop. Take the same shot down the fence, treeline, whatever, but change the f/stop with each shot. You'll see the difference in depth of field at each setting. You can then use this as a reference when you're in the arena.

[Captain Slack]

If I had the expensive 2.8 lens, the whole picture would have been in focus...Canesluver??? Is that right???

You've got it backwards. The lower the number of the f/stop (which is a wider lens opening) setting the shallower the depth of field (less focus). If you want more focus, you'll need a smaller lens opening, thus a higher numbered f/stop.

Try this exercise out and you'll see what I'm talking about:

Find a fence or a line of trees and set your camera up along it. Change either to manual or aperature priority mode, whichever your camera has that will allow you to manually set your f/stop. Take the same shot down the fence, treeline, whatever, but change the f/stop with each shot. You'll see the difference in depth of field at each setting. You can then use this as a reference when you're in the arena.

[Captain Slack]

If I had the expensive 2.8 lens, the whole picture would have been in focus...Canesluver??? Is that right???

You've got it backwards. The lower the number of the f/stop (which is a wider lens opening) setting the shallower the depth of field (less focus). If you want more focus, you'll need a smaller lens opening, thus a higher numbered f/stop.

Try this exercise out and you'll see what I'm talking about:

Find a fence or a line of trees and set your camera up along it. Change either to manual or aperature priority mode, whichever your camera has that will allow you to manually set your f/stop. Take the same shot down the fence, treeline, whatever, but change the f/stop with each shot. You'll see the difference in depth of field at each setting. You can then use this as a reference when you're in the arena.

[Captain Slack]

If I had the expensive 2.8 lens, the whole picture would have been in focus...Canesluver??? Is that right???

You've got it backwards. The lower the number of the f/stop (which is a wider lens opening) setting the shallower the depth of field (less focus). If you want more focus, you'll need a smaller lens opening, thus a higher numbered f/stop.

Try this exercise out and you'll see what I'm talking about:

Find a fence or a line of trees and set your camera up along it. Change either to manual or aperature priority mode, whichever your camera has that will allow you to manually set your f/stop. Take the same shot down the fence, treeline, whatever, but change the f/stop with each shot. You'll see the difference in depth of field at each setting. You can then use this as a reference when you're in the arena.

[Captain Slack]

If I had the expensive 2.8 lens, the whole picture would have been in focus...Canesluver??? Is that right???

You've got it backwards. The lower the number of the f/stop (which is a wider lens opening) setting the shallower the depth of field (less focus). If you want more focus, you'll need a smaller lens opening, thus a higher numbered f/stop.

Try this exercise out and you'll see what I'm talking about:

Find a fence or a line of trees and set your camera up along it. Change either to manual or aperature priority mode, whichever your camera has that will allow you to manually set your f/stop. Take the same shot down the fence, treeline, whatever, but change the f/stop with each shot. You'll see the difference in depth of field at each setting. You can then use this as a reference when you're in the arena.

[IceSaber]

I'll try that tomorrow when it's light out..

I thought that 2.8 was for a lens speed value...

What do I need to get a faster, wider opening with (400-500) film speed - isn't that what I need for good indoor action shots?

Because the wider opening to let in enough light - takes longer which gives me the blur for the fast motion, right?

[IceSaber]

I'll try that tomorrow when it's light out..

I thought that 2.8 was for a lens speed value...

What do I need to get a faster, wider opening with (400-500) film speed - isn't that what I need for good indoor action shots?

Because the wider opening to let in enough light - takes longer which gives me the blur for the fast motion, right?

[IceSaber]

I'll try that tomorrow when it's light out..

I thought that 2.8 was for a lens speed value...

What do I need to get a faster, wider opening with (400-500) film speed - isn't that what I need for good indoor action shots?

Because the wider opening to let in enough light - takes longer which gives me the blur for the fast motion, right?

[IceSaber]

I'll try that tomorrow when it's light out..

I thought that 2.8 was for a lens speed value...

What do I need to get a faster, wider opening with (400-500) film speed - isn't that what I need for good indoor action shots?

Because the wider opening to let in enough light - takes longer which gives me the blur for the fast motion, right?

[IceSaber]

I'll try that tomorrow when it's light out..

I thought that 2.8 was for a lens speed value...

What do I need to get a faster, wider opening with (400-500) film speed - isn't that what I need for good indoor action shots?

Because the wider opening to let in enough light - takes longer which gives me the blur for the fast motion, right?

[IceSaber]

I'll try that tomorrow when it's light out..

I thought that 2.8 was for a lens speed value...

What do I need to get a faster, wider opening with (400-500) film speed - isn't that what I need for good indoor action shots?

Because the wider opening to let in enough light - takes longer which gives me the blur for the fast motion, right?

[IceSaber]

I'll try that tomorrow when it's light out..

I thought that 2.8 was for a lens speed value...

What do I need to get a faster, wider opening with (400-500) film speed - isn't that what I need for good indoor action shots?

Because the wider opening to let in enough light - takes longer which gives me the blur for the fast motion, right?

[Captain Slack]

A slower shutter speed will give you the blur which shows motion. A higher f/stop will give you greater depth of field. As for film speed, for indoors at the RBC, I'd shoot at around 800. 400 is more in outdoors in an overcast or partly cloudy day. IMHO, 800 would work better indoors in the arena. That's the beauty of digital cameras, though: you can change it on the fly! :cool:

The 2.8 is a measure of lens speed. A lens with a minimum f/stop of say 1.4 is considered a faster lens than say one with an f/stop of 2.8.

[Captain Slack]

A slower shutter speed will give you the blur which shows motion. A higher f/stop will give you greater depth of field. As for film speed, for indoors at the RBC, I'd shoot at around 800. 400 is more in outdoors in an overcast or partly cloudy day. IMHO, 800 would work better indoors in the arena. That's the beauty of digital cameras, though: you can change it on the fly! :cool:

The 2.8 is a measure of lens speed. A lens with a minimum f/stop of say 1.4 is considered a faster lens than say one with an f/stop of 2.8.

[Captain Slack]

A slower shutter speed will give you the blur which shows motion. A higher f/stop will give you greater depth of field. As for film speed, for indoors at the RBC, I'd shoot at around 800. 400 is more in outdoors in an overcast or partly cloudy day. IMHO, 800 would work better indoors in the arena. That's the beauty of digital cameras, though: you can change it on the fly! :cool:

The 2.8 is a measure of lens speed. A lens with a minimum f/stop of say 1.4 is considered a faster lens than say one with an f/stop of 2.8.

[Captain Slack]

A slower shutter speed will give you the blur which shows motion. A higher f/stop will give you greater depth of field. As for film speed, for indoors at the RBC, I'd shoot at around 800. 400 is more in outdoors in an overcast or partly cloudy day. IMHO, 800 would work better indoors in the arena. That's the beauty of digital cameras, though: you can change it on the fly! :cool:

The 2.8 is a measure of lens speed. A lens with a minimum f/stop of say 1.4 is considered a faster lens than say one with an f/stop of 2.8.

[Captain Slack]

A slower shutter speed will give you the blur which shows motion. A higher f/stop will give you greater depth of field. As for film speed, for indoors at the RBC, I'd shoot at around 800. 400 is more in outdoors in an overcast or partly cloudy day. IMHO, 800 would work better indoors in the arena. That's the beauty of digital cameras, though: you can change it on the fly! :cool:

The 2.8 is a measure of lens speed. A lens with a minimum f/stop of say 1.4 is considered a faster lens than say one with an f/stop of 2.8.

[Captain Slack]

A slower shutter speed will give you the blur which shows motion. A higher f/stop will give you greater depth of field. As for film speed, for indoors at the RBC, I'd shoot at around 800. 400 is more in outdoors in an overcast or partly cloudy day. IMHO, 800 would work better indoors in the arena. That's the beauty of digital cameras, though: you can change it on the fly! :cool:

The 2.8 is a measure of lens speed. A lens with a minimum f/stop of say 1.4 is considered a faster lens than say one with an f/stop of 2.8.

[Captain Slack]

A slower shutter speed will give you the blur which shows motion. A higher f/stop will give you greater depth of field. As for film speed, for indoors at the RBC, I'd shoot at around 800. 400 is more in outdoors in an overcast or partly cloudy day. IMHO, 800 would work better indoors in the arena. That's the beauty of digital cameras, though: you can change it on the fly! :cool:

The 2.8 is a measure of lens speed. A lens with a minimum f/stop of say 1.4 is considered a faster lens than say one with an f/stop of 2.8.

[nccanes]

Time to do your homework Ice! ;)

CS may have some other recommendations, but there are couple of good books I've enjoyed reading and re-reading.

First off, there are some good guides to your camera itself, I believe their called "Magic Lantern" series. They make one for each Canon body.

Also, I really liked this book

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/079225676X/sr=1-1/qid=1138709443/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8701262-7520143?%5Fencoding=UTF8

Enjoyable read. I see they also have a digital version of it, so since I don't have a digital SLR, I'm not sure which makes the most sense. Both are probably good.

My Dad (who was a photog enthusiast) taught me about aperture and shutter speed a looooong time ago, when I was about 8, using a very old completely manual camera (the kind you look down into the view finder - wish I still had that thing). Most of it stuck with me, but its still fun to study up.

[nccanes]

Time to do your homework Ice! ;)

CS may have some other recommendations, but there are couple of good books I've enjoyed reading and re-reading.

First off, there are some good guides to your camera itself, I believe their called "Magic Lantern" series. They make one for each Canon body.

Also, I really liked this book

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/079225676X/sr=1-1/qid=1138709443/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8701262-7520143?%5Fencoding=UTF8

Enjoyable read. I see they also have a digital version of it, so since I don't have a digital SLR, I'm not sure which makes the most sense. Both are probably good.

My Dad (who was a photog enthusiast) taught me about aperture and shutter speed a looooong time ago, when I was about 8, using a very old completely manual camera (the kind you look down into the view finder - wish I still had that thing). Most of it stuck with me, but its still fun to study up.

[nccanes]

Time to do your homework Ice! ;)

CS may have some other recommendations, but there are couple of good books I've enjoyed reading and re-reading.

First off, there are some good guides to your camera itself, I believe their called "Magic Lantern" series. They make one for each Canon body.

Also, I really liked this book

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/079225676X/sr=1-1/qid=1138709443/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8701262-7520143?%5Fencoding=UTF8

Enjoyable read. I see they also have a digital version of it, so since I don't have a digital SLR, I'm not sure which makes the most sense. Both are probably good.

My Dad (who was a photog enthusiast) taught me about aperture and shutter speed a looooong time ago, when I was about 8, using a very old completely manual camera (the kind you look down into the view finder - wish I still had that thing). Most of it stuck with me, but its still fun to study up.

[nccanes]

Time to do your homework Ice! ;)

CS may have some other recommendations, but there are couple of good books I've enjoyed reading and re-reading.

First off, there are some good guides to your camera itself, I believe their called "Magic Lantern" series. They make one for each Canon body.

Also, I really liked this book

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/079225676X/sr=1-1/qid=1138709443/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8701262-7520143?%5Fencoding=UTF8

Enjoyable read. I see they also have a digital version of it, so since I don't have a digital SLR, I'm not sure which makes the most sense. Both are probably good.

My Dad (who was a photog enthusiast) taught me about aperture and shutter speed a looooong time ago, when I was about 8, using a very old completely manual camera (the kind you look down into the view finder - wish I still had that thing). Most of it stuck with me, but its still fun to study up.

[nccanes]

Time to do your homework Ice! ;)

CS may have some other recommendations, but there are couple of good books I've enjoyed reading and re-reading.

First off, there are some good guides to your camera itself, I believe their called "Magic Lantern" series. They make one for each Canon body.

Also, I really liked this book

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/079225676X/sr=1-1/qid=1138709443/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8701262-7520143?%5Fencoding=UTF8

Enjoyable read. I see they also have a digital version of it, so since I don't have a digital SLR, I'm not sure which makes the most sense. Both are probably good.

My Dad (who was a photog enthusiast) taught me about aperture and shutter speed a looooong time ago, when I was about 8, using a very old completely manual camera (the kind you look down into the view finder - wish I still had that thing). Most of it stuck with me, but its still fun to study up.

[nccanes]

Time to do your homework Ice! ;)

CS may have some other recommendations, but there are couple of good books I've enjoyed reading and re-reading.

First off, there are some good guides to your camera itself, I believe their called "Magic Lantern" series. They make one for each Canon body.

Also, I really liked this book

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/079225676X/sr=1-1/qid=1138709443/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8701262-7520143?%5Fencoding=UTF8

Enjoyable read. I see they also have a digital version of it, so since I don't have a digital SLR, I'm not sure which makes the most sense. Both are probably good.

My Dad (who was a photog enthusiast) taught me about aperture and shutter speed a looooong time ago, when I was about 8, using a very old completely manual camera (the kind you look down into the view finder - wish I still had that thing). Most of it stuck with me, but its still fun to study up.

[nccanes]

Time to do your homework Ice! ;)

CS may have some other recommendations, but there are couple of good books I've enjoyed reading and re-reading.

First off, there are some good guides to your camera itself, I believe their called "Magic Lantern" series. They make one for each Canon body.

Also, I really liked this book

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/079225676X/sr=1-1/qid=1138709443/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8701262-7520143?%5Fencoding=UTF8

Enjoyable read. I see they also have a digital version of it, so since I don't have a digital SLR, I'm not sure which makes the most sense. Both are probably good.

My Dad (who was a photog enthusiast) taught me about aperture and shutter speed a looooong time ago, when I was about 8, using a very old completely manual camera (the kind you look down into the view finder - wish I still had that thing). Most of it stuck with me, but its still fun to study up.

[apolinar]

There are these vintage books you can get on ebay for 2-3 bucks each. they're called the time life guide to photography. (Type in Time life photography on ebay search and you'll see them) It's a series of 18 books covering different topics. It gives basics as well as professional advice, and gives samples of the techniques using famous and some time-life photos. not only is it informative, it's a great coffee table book with some high quality photos. In the past year for less than 50 bucks I've put together the whole collection and have learned most of the basic techniques from it. No sections on digital of course because it was written in the 70's but it explains a lot of what Captainslack has. Sections on lighting and why wide format was better etc.

[apolinar]

There are these vintage books you can get on ebay for 2-3 bucks each. they're called the time life guide to photography. (Type in Time life photography on ebay search and you'll see them) It's a series of 18 books covering different topics. It gives basics as well as professional advice, and gives samples of the techniques using famous and some time-life photos. not only is it informative, it's a great coffee table book with some high quality photos. In the past year for less than 50 bucks I've put together the whole collection and have learned most of the basic techniques from it. No sections on digital of course because it was written in the 70's but it explains a lot of what Captainslack has. Sections on lighting and why wide format was better etc.

[apolinar]

There are these vintage books you can get on ebay for 2-3 bucks each. they're called the time life guide to photography. (Type in Time life photography on ebay search and you'll see them) It's a series of 18 books covering different topics. It gives basics as well as professional advice, and gives samples of the techniques using famous and some time-life photos. not only is it informative, it's a great coffee table book with some high quality photos. In the past year for less than 50 bucks I've put together the whole collection and have learned most of the basic techniques from it. No sections on digital of course because it was written in the 70's but it explains a lot of what Captainslack has. Sections on lighting and why wide format was better etc.

[apolinar]

There are these vintage books you can get on ebay for 2-3 bucks each. they're called the time life guide to photography. (Type in Time life photography on ebay search and you'll see them) It's a series of 18 books covering different topics. It gives basics as well as professional advice, and gives samples of the techniques using famous and some time-life photos. not only is it informative, it's a great coffee table book with some high quality photos. In the past year for less than 50 bucks I've put together the whole collection and have learned most of the basic techniques from it. No sections on digital of course because it was written in the 70's but it explains a lot of what Captainslack has. Sections on lighting and why wide format was better etc.

[apolinar]

There are these vintage books you can get on ebay for 2-3 bucks each. they're called the time life guide to photography. (Type in Time life photography on ebay search and you'll see them) It's a series of 18 books covering different topics. It gives basics as well as professional advice, and gives samples of the techniques using famous and some time-life photos. not only is it informative, it's a great coffee table book with some high quality photos. In the past year for less than 50 bucks I've put together the whole collection and have learned most of the basic techniques from it. No sections on digital of course because it was written in the 70's but it explains a lot of what Captainslack has. Sections on lighting and why wide format was better etc.

[apolinar]

There are these vintage books you can get on ebay for 2-3 bucks each. they're called the time life guide to photography. (Type in Time life photography on ebay search and you'll see them) It's a series of 18 books covering different topics. It gives basics as well as professional advice, and gives samples of the techniques using famous and some time-life photos. not only is it informative, it's a great coffee table book with some high quality photos. In the past year for less than 50 bucks I've put together the whole collection and have learned most of the basic techniques from it. No sections on digital of course because it was written in the 70's but it explains a lot of what Captainslack has. Sections on lighting and why wide format was better etc.

[apolinar]

There are these vintage books you can get on ebay for 2-3 bucks each. they're called the time life guide to photography. (Type in Time life photography on ebay search and you'll see them) It's a series of 18 books covering different topics. It gives basics as well as professional advice, and gives samples of the techniques using famous and some time-life photos. not only is it informative, it's a great coffee table book with some high quality photos. In the past year for less than 50 bucks I've put together the whole collection and have learned most of the basic techniques from it. No sections on digital of course because it was written in the 70's but it explains a lot of what Captainslack has. Sections on lighting and why wide format was better etc.

[Captain Slack]

nccanes: I'm reading the Magic Lantern book for the Nikon D70s right now. Wonderful book! Much more understandable than the manual that came with the camera.

The book I like is "The Joy of Photography" by Kodak Press. Not sure if it's still in print or not, but it's very basic and does a good job of explaining everything you need to know. Another good one is "An Ansel Adams Guide: Basic Techniques of Photography" by John Schaefer. That one uses a lot of Ansel's writing and prints to illustrate good photographic techniques.

[Captain Slack]

nccanes: I'm reading the Magic Lantern book for the Nikon D70s right now. Wonderful book! Much more understandable than the manual that came with the camera.

The book I like is "The Joy of Photography" by Kodak Press. Not sure if it's still in print or not, but it's very basic and does a good job of explaining everything you need to know. Another good one is "An Ansel Adams Guide: Basic Techniques of Photography" by John Schaefer. That one uses a lot of Ansel's writing and prints to illustrate good photographic techniques.

[Captain Slack]

nccanes: I'm reading the Magic Lantern book for the Nikon D70s right now. Wonderful book! Much more understandable than the manual that came with the camera.

The book I like is "The Joy of Photography" by Kodak Press. Not sure if it's still in print or not, but it's very basic and does a good job of explaining everything you need to know. Another good one is "An Ansel Adams Guide: Basic Techniques of Photography" by John Schaefer. That one uses a lot of Ansel's writing and prints to illustrate good photographic techniques.

[Captain Slack]

nccanes: I'm reading the Magic Lantern book for the Nikon D70s right now. Wonderful book! Much more understandable than the manual that came with the camera.

The book I like is "The Joy of Photography" by Kodak Press. Not sure if it's still in print or not, but it's very basic and does a good job of explaining everything you need to know. Another good one is "An Ansel Adams Guide: Basic Techniques of Photography" by John Schaefer. That one uses a lot of Ansel's writing and prints to illustrate good photographic techniques.

[Captain Slack]

nccanes: I'm reading the Magic Lantern book for the Nikon D70s right now. Wonderful book! Much more understandable than the manual that came with the camera.

The book I like is "The Joy of Photography" by Kodak Press. Not sure if it's still in print or not, but it's very basic and does a good job of explaining everything you need to know. Another good one is "An Ansel Adams Guide: Basic Techniques of Photography" by John Schaefer. That one uses a lot of Ansel's writing and prints to illustrate good photographic techniques.

[Captain Slack]

nccanes: I'm reading the Magic Lantern book for the Nikon D70s right now. Wonderful book! Much more understandable than the manual that came with the camera.

The book I like is "The Joy of Photography" by Kodak Press. Not sure if it's still in print or not, but it's very basic and does a good job of explaining everything you need to know. Another good one is "An Ansel Adams Guide: Basic Techniques of Photography" by John Schaefer. That one uses a lot of Ansel's writing and prints to illustrate good photographic techniques.

[Captain Slack]

nccanes: I'm reading the Magic Lantern book for the Nikon D70s right now. Wonderful book! Much more understandable than the manual that came with the camera.

The book I like is "The Joy of Photography" by Kodak Press. Not sure if it's still in print or not, but it's very basic and does a good job of explaining everything you need to know. Another good one is "An Ansel Adams Guide: Basic Techniques of Photography" by John Schaefer. That one uses a lot of Ansel's writing and prints to illustrate good photographic techniques.

[Guyute]

where do y'all shop for your digi-needs?
I'm making the rounds in checking prices on D70 kits again (I do this every 2 months, almost religiously. lol). I'm about to get last year's daycare flex-spending back, and thinking I might set a large chunk of it for a D70 fund. So I'm trying to find good places to shop. any recommendations would be appreciated.

tough decision on the money... I want to spend it on the tank... but, if I do, and don't have a decent camera to take shots, I'll be pissed. lol

too many toys, too little money.

[Guyute]

where do y'all shop for your digi-needs?
I'm making the rounds in checking prices on D70 kits again (I do this every 2 months, almost religiously. lol). I'm about to get last year's daycare flex-spending back, and thinking I might set a large chunk of it for a D70 fund. So I'm trying to find good places to shop. any recommendations would be appreciated.

tough decision on the money... I want to spend it on the tank... but, if I do, and don't have a decent camera to take shots, I'll be pissed. lol

too many toys, too little money.

[Guyute]

where do y'all shop for your digi-needs?
I'm making the rounds in checking prices on D70 kits again (I do this every 2 months, almost religiously. lol). I'm about to get last year's daycare flex-spending back, and thinking I might set a large chunk of it for a D70 fund. So I'm trying to find good places to shop. any recommendations would be appreciated.

tough decision on the money... I want to spend it on the tank... but, if I do, and don't have a decent camera to take shots, I'll be pissed. lol

too many toys, too little money.

[Guyute]

where do y'all shop for your digi-needs?
I'm making the rounds in checking prices on D70 kits again (I do this every 2 months, almost religiously. lol). I'm about to get last year's daycare flex-spending back, and thinking I might set a large chunk of it for a D70 fund. So I'm trying to find good places to shop. any recommendations would be appreciated.

tough decision on the money... I want to spend it on the tank... but, if I do, and don't have a decent camera to take shots, I'll be pissed. lol

too many toys, too little money.

[Guyute]

where do y'all shop for your digi-needs?
I'm making the rounds in checking prices on D70 kits again (I do this every 2 months, almost religiously. lol). I'm about to get last year's daycare flex-spending back, and thinking I might set a large chunk of it for a D70 fund. So I'm trying to find good places to shop. any recommendations would be appreciated.

tough decision on the money... I want to spend it on the tank... but, if I do, and don't have a decent camera to take shots, I'll be pissed. lol

too many toys, too little money.

[Guyute]

where do y'all shop for your digi-needs?
I'm making the rounds in checking prices on D70 kits again (I do this every 2 months, almost religiously. lol). I'm about to get last year's daycare flex-spending back, and thinking I might set a large chunk of it for a D70 fund. So I'm trying to find good places to shop. any recommendations would be appreciated.

tough decision on the money... I want to spend it on the tank... but, if I do, and don't have a decent camera to take shots, I'll be pissed. lol

too many toys, too little money.

[Guyute]

where do y'all shop for your digi-needs?
I'm making the rounds in checking prices on D70 kits again (I do this every 2 months, almost religiously. lol). I'm about to get last year's daycare flex-spending back, and thinking I might set a large chunk of it for a D70 fund. So I'm trying to find good places to shop. any recommendations would be appreciated.

tough decision on the money... I want to spend it on the tank... but, if I do, and don't have a decent camera to take shots, I'll be pissed. lol

too many toys, too little money.

[nccanes]

I've always been partial to B&H Photo/Video.

It's one of the NYC based (at least originally) mailorder companies that seems to have a good rep and no grey-market stuff.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

[nccanes]

I've always been partial to B&H Photo/Video.

It's one of the NYC based (at least originally) mailorder companies that seems to have a good rep and no grey-market stuff.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

[nccanes]

I've always been partial to B&H Photo/Video.

It's one of the NYC based (at least originally) mailorder companies that seems to have a good rep and no grey-market stuff.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

[nccanes]

I've always been partial to B&H Photo/Video.

It's one of the NYC based (at least originally) mailorder companies that seems to have a good rep and no grey-market stuff.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

[nccanes]

I've always been partial to B&H Photo/Video.

It's one of the NYC based (at least originally) mailorder companies that seems to have a good rep and no grey-market stuff.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

[nccanes]

I've always been partial to B&H Photo/Video.

It's one of the NYC based (at least originally) mailorder companies that seems to have a good rep and no grey-market stuff.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

[nccanes]

I've always been partial to B&H Photo/Video.

It's one of the NYC based (at least originally) mailorder companies that seems to have a good rep and no grey-market stuff.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

[MeanGene]

B&H is great. If you are going to be buying a few things from them, you may want to consider becoming a member of the NAPP.

http://www.photoshopuser.com/

One of the benefits is free shipping on orders from B&H. The magazine is awesome btw!

[MeanGene]

B&H is great. If you are going to be buying a few things from them, you may want to consider becoming a member of the NAPP.

http://www.photoshopuser.com/

One of the benefits is free shipping on orders from B&H. The magazine is awesome btw!

[MeanGene]

B&H is great. If you are going to be buying a few things from them, you may want to consider becoming a member of the NAPP.

http://www.photoshopuser.com/

One of the benefits is free shipping on orders from B&H. The magazine is awesome btw!

[MeanGene]

B&H is great. If you are going to be buying a few things from them, you may want to consider becoming a member of the NAPP.

http://www.photoshopuser.com/

One of the benefits is free shipping on orders from B&H. The magazine is awesome btw!

[MeanGene]

B&H is great. If you are going to be buying a few things from them, you may want to consider becoming a member of the NAPP.

http://www.photoshopuser.com/

One of the benefits is free shipping on orders from B&H. The magazine is awesome btw!

[MeanGene]

B&H is great. If you are going to be buying a few things from them, you may want to consider becoming a member of the NAPP.

http://www.photoshopuser.com/

One of the benefits is free shipping on orders from B&H. The magazine is awesome btw!

[MeanGene]

B&H is great. If you are going to be buying a few things from them, you may want to consider becoming a member of the NAPP.

http://www.photoshopuser.com/

One of the benefits is free shipping on orders from B&H. The magazine is awesome btw!

[Captain Slack]

I like KEH in Atlanta. They have good prices and great customer service. Also have a great selection of used camera equipment if you're into that. Don't be afraid to buy anything they list as "bargain". They're very conservative on their grading. Their bargain stuff would equal most peoples mint.

http://www.keh.com/onlinestore/home.aspx

[Captain Slack]

I like KEH in Atlanta. They have good prices and great customer service. Also have a great selection of used camera equipment if you're into that. Don't be afraid to buy anything they list as "bargain". They're very conservative on their grading. Their bargain stuff would equal most peoples mint.

http://www.keh.com/onlinestore/home.aspx

[Captain Slack]

I like KEH in Atlanta. They have good prices and great customer service. Also have a great selection of used camera equipment if you're into that. Don't be afraid to buy anything they list as "bargain". They're very conservative on their grading. Their bargain stuff would equal most peoples mint.

http://www.keh.com/onlinestore/home.aspx

[Captain Slack]

I like KEH in Atlanta. They have good prices and great customer service. Also have a great selection of used camera equipment if you're into that. Don't be afraid to buy anything they list as "bargain". They're very conservative on their grading. Their bargain stuff would equal most peoples mint.

http://www.keh.com/onlinestore/home.aspx

[Captain Slack]

I like KEH in Atlanta. They have good prices and great customer service. Also have a great selection of used camera equipment if you're into that. Don't be afraid to buy anything they list as "bargain". They're very conservative on their grading. Their bargain stuff would equal most peoples mint.

http://www.keh.com/onlinestore/home.aspx

[Captain Slack]

I like KEH in Atlanta. They have good prices and great customer service. Also have a great selection of used camera equipment if you're into that. Don't be afraid to buy anything they list as "bargain". They're very conservative on their grading. Their bargain stuff would equal most peoples mint.

http://www.keh.com/onlinestore/home.aspx

[Captain Slack]

I like KEH in Atlanta. They have good prices and great customer service. Also have a great selection of used camera equipment if you're into that. Don't be afraid to buy anything they list as "bargain". They're very conservative on their grading. Their bargain stuff would equal most peoples mint.

http://www.keh.com/onlinestore/home.aspx

[Guyute]

thanks folks :) I look at B&H a lot.. I was trying to get an idea of other places that maybe don't show up on the usual radar.

CS you certainly provided that. a place I've never heard of that has some good prices. that one will definitely go on my rotation. thanks :)
LN and EX D70 kits w/ 1 lens for under 900. not bad at all.

[Guyute]

thanks folks :) I look at B&H a lot.. I was trying to get an idea of other places that maybe don't show up on the usual radar.

CS you certainly provided that. a place I've never heard of that has some good prices. that one will definitely go on my rotation. thanks :)
LN and EX D70 kits w/ 1 lens for under 900. not bad at all.

[Guyute]

thanks folks :) I look at B&H a lot.. I was trying to get an idea of other places that maybe don't show up on the usual radar.

CS you certainly provided that. a place I've never heard of that has some good prices. that one will definitely go on my rotation. thanks :)
LN and EX D70 kits w/ 1 lens for under 900. not bad at all.

[Guyute]

thanks folks :) I look at B&H a lot.. I was trying to get an idea of other places that maybe don't show up on the usual radar.

CS you certainly provided that. a place I've never heard of that has some good prices. that one will definitely go on my rotation. thanks :)
LN and EX D70 kits w/ 1 lens for under 900. not bad at all.

[Guyute]

thanks folks :) I look at B&H a lot.. I was trying to get an idea of other places that maybe don't show up on the usual radar.

CS you certainly provided that. a place I've never heard of that has some good prices. that one will definitely go on my rotation. thanks :)
LN and EX D70 kits w/ 1 lens for under 900. not bad at all.

[Guyute]

thanks folks :) I look at B&H a lot.. I was trying to get an idea of other places that maybe don't show up on the usual radar.

CS you certainly provided that. a place I've never heard of that has some good prices. that one will definitely go on my rotation. thanks :)
LN and EX D70 kits w/ 1 lens for under 900. not bad at all.

[Guyute]

thanks folks :) I look at B&H a lot.. I was trying to get an idea of other places that maybe don't show up on the usual radar.

CS you certainly provided that. a place I've never heard of that has some good prices. that one will definitely go on my rotation. thanks :)
LN and EX D70 kits w/ 1 lens for under 900. not bad at all.

[apolinar]

Amazon slips in unnannounced bargains for digicams. I didn't bite but when I checked before christmas, they had the LOWEST price on the D70 out of any net retail... and to boot they were adding a 200 dollar amazon gift cert rebate at the same time, plus percentage discounts on all accessories if you bought them at the same time. (Lenses included) You just have to keep your eye out.

[apolinar]

Amazon slips in unnannounced bargains for digicams. I didn't bite but when I checked before christmas, they had the LOWEST price on the D70 out of any net retail... and to boot they were adding a 200 dollar amazon gift cert rebate at the same time, plus percentage discounts on all accessories if you bought them at the same time. (Lenses included) You just have to keep your eye out.

[apolinar]

Amazon slips in unnannounced bargains for digicams. I didn't bite but when I checked before christmas, they had the LOWEST price on the D70 out of any net retail... and to boot they were adding a 200 dollar amazon gift cert rebate at the same time, plus percentage discounts on all accessories if you bought them at the same time. (Lenses included) You just have to keep your eye out.

[apolinar]

Amazon slips in unnannounced bargains for digicams. I didn't bite but when I checked before christmas, they had the LOWEST price on the D70 out of any net retail... and to boot they were adding a 200 dollar amazon gift cert rebate at the same time, plus percentage discounts on all accessories if you bought them at the same time. (Lenses included) You just have to keep your eye out.

[apolinar]

Amazon slips in unnannounced bargains for digicams. I didn't bite but when I checked before christmas, they had the LOWEST price on the D70 out of any net retail... and to boot they were adding a 200 dollar amazon gift cert rebate at the same time, plus percentage discounts on all accessories if you bought them at the same time. (Lenses included) You just have to keep your eye out.

[apolinar]

Amazon slips in unnannounced bargains for digicams. I didn't bite but when I checked before christmas, they had the LOWEST price on the D70 out of any net retail... and to boot they were adding a 200 dollar amazon gift cert rebate at the same time, plus percentage discounts on all accessories if you bought them at the same time. (Lenses included) You just have to keep your eye out.

[apolinar]

Amazon slips in unnannounced bargains for digicams. I didn't bite but when I checked before christmas, they had the LOWEST price on the D70 out of any net retail... and to boot they were adding a 200 dollar amazon gift cert rebate at the same time, plus percentage discounts on all accessories if you bought them at the same time. (Lenses included) You just have to keep your eye out.

[Guyute]

thanks :)

Amazon is one of those great sites that lets you move stuff from your active cart to "save for later". I do that with a lot of big ticket items. then anytime I check my cart, I immediately see a price for those items.

I noticed the digital rebel has come down to a pretty respectable price. I'm just really sold on the D70 and don't see going a different route.

of course, Shell was nice enough to list for me all the extra bills we've had recently, and that we still need tires, have a vacation coming up, etc...
so.. I don't think this will happen as soon as I was hoping. oh well, maybe I'll get to see a bit of a price drop again. heh

[Guyute]

thanks :)

Amazon is one of those great sites that lets you move stuff from your active cart to "save for later". I do that with a lot of big ticket items. then anytime I check my cart, I immediately see a price for those items.

I noticed the digital rebel has come down to a pretty respectable price. I'm just really sold on the D70 and don't see going a different route.

of course, Shell was nice enough to list for me all the extra bills we've had recently, and that we still need tires, have a vacation coming up, etc...
so.. I don't think this will happen as soon as I was hoping. oh well, maybe I'll get to see a bit of a price drop again. heh

[Guyute]

thanks :)

Amazon is one of those great sites that lets you move stuff from your active cart to "save for later". I do that with a lot of big ticket items. then anytime I check my cart, I immediately see a price for those items.

I noticed the digital rebel has come down to a pretty respectable price. I'm just really sold on the D70 and don't see going a different route.

of course, Shell was nice enough to list for me all the extra bills we've had recently, and that we still need tires, have a vacation coming up, etc...
so.. I don't think this will happen as soon as I was hoping. oh well, maybe I'll get to see a bit of a price drop again. heh

[Guyute]

thanks :)

Amazon is one of those great sites that lets you move stuff from your active cart to "save for later". I do that with a lot of big ticket items. then anytime I check my cart, I immediately see a price for those items.

I noticed the digital rebel has come down to a pretty respectable price. I'm just really sold on the D70 and don't see going a different route.

of course, Shell was nice enough to list for me all the extra bills we've had recently, and that we still need tires, have a vacation coming up, etc...
so.. I don't think this will happen as soon as I was hoping. oh well, maybe I'll get to see a bit of a price drop again. heh

[Guyute]

thanks :)

Amazon is one of those great sites that lets you move stuff from your active cart to "save for later". I do that with a lot of big ticket items. then anytime I check my cart, I immediately see a price for those items.

I noticed the digital rebel has come down to a pretty respectable price. I'm just really sold on the D70 and don't see going a different route.

of course, Shell was nice enough to list for me all the extra bills we've had recently, and that we still need tires, have a vacation coming up, etc...
so.. I don't think this will happen as soon as I was hoping. oh well, maybe I'll get to see a bit of a price drop again. heh

[Guyute]

thanks :)

Amazon is one of those great sites that lets you move stuff from your active cart to "save for later". I do that with a lot of big ticket items. then anytime I check my cart, I immediately see a price for those items.

I noticed the digital rebel has come down to a pretty respectable price. I'm just really sold on the D70 and don't see going a different route.

of course, Shell was nice enough to list for me all the extra bills we've had recently, and that we still need tires, have a vacation coming up, etc...
so.. I don't think this will happen as soon as I was hoping. oh well, maybe I'll get to see a bit of a price drop again. heh

[Guyute]

thanks :)

Amazon is one of those great sites that lets you move stuff from your active cart to "save for later". I do that with a lot of big ticket items. then anytime I check my cart, I immediately see a price for those items.

I noticed the digital rebel has come down to a pretty respectable price. I'm just really sold on the D70 and don't see going a different route.

of course, Shell was nice enough to list for me all the extra bills we've had recently, and that we still need tires, have a vacation coming up, etc...
so.. I don't think this will happen as soon as I was hoping. oh well, maybe I'll get to see a bit of a price drop again. heh

[Guyute]

Any input here on 3rd party lenses? I'm curious about Tamron stuff. I'm not familiar with them at all. I've used Sigma for years, and had no problems with them at all. my 300mm lens on my film slr is a Sigma.

I've seen some nice D70s packages with Tamron lenses that are a little cheaper than the same packages with Nikon lenses. It's not really much of a difference... but, figured I'd check if anyone knows Tamron stuff.

[Guyute]

Any input here on 3rd party lenses? I'm curious about Tamron stuff. I'm not familiar with them at all. I've used Sigma for years, and had no problems with them at all. my 300mm lens on my film slr is a Sigma.

I've seen some nice D70s packages with Tamron lenses that are a little cheaper than the same packages with Nikon lenses. It's not really much of a difference... but, figured I'd check if anyone knows Tamron stuff.

[Guyute]

Any input here on 3rd party lenses? I'm curious about Tamron stuff. I'm not familiar with them at all. I've used Sigma for years, and had no problems with them at all. my 300mm lens on my film slr is a Sigma.

I've seen some nice D70s packages with Tamron lenses that are a little cheaper than the same packages with Nikon lenses. It's not really much of a difference... but, figured I'd check if anyone knows Tamron stuff.

[Guyute]

Any input here on 3rd party lenses? I'm curious about Tamron stuff. I'm not familiar with them at all. I've used Sigma for years, and had no problems with them at all. my 300mm lens on my film slr is a Sigma.

I've seen some nice D70s packages with Tamron lenses that are a little cheaper than the same packages with Nikon lenses. It's not really much of a difference... but, figured I'd check if anyone knows Tamron stuff.

[Guyute]

Any input here on 3rd party lenses? I'm curious about Tamron stuff. I'm not familiar with them at all. I've used Sigma for years, and had no problems with them at all. my 300mm lens on my film slr is a Sigma.

I've seen some nice D70s packages with Tamron lenses that are a little cheaper than the same packages with Nikon lenses. It's not really much of a difference... but, figured I'd check if anyone knows Tamron stuff.

[Captain Slack]

Never used a Tamron myself. Check out this website:

http://www.photographyreview.com/

There's bound to be a review of the lens you're looking at somewhere there.

[Captain Slack]

Never used a Tamron myself. Check out this website:

http://www.photographyreview.com/

There's bound to be a review of the lens you're looking at somewhere there.

[Captain Slack]

Never used a Tamron myself. Check out this website:

http://www.photographyreview.com/

There's bound to be a review of the lens you're looking at somewhere there.

[Captain Slack]

Never used a Tamron myself. Check out this website:

http://www.photographyreview.com/

There's bound to be a review of the lens you're looking at somewhere there.

[Captain Slack]

Never used a Tamron myself. Check out this website:

http://www.photographyreview.com/

There's bound to be a review of the lens you're looking at somewhere there.

[IceSaber]

Mine are all Sigma if not Canon....

[IceSaber]

Mine are all Sigma if not Canon....

[IceSaber]

Mine are all Sigma if not Canon....

[IceSaber]

Mine are all Sigma if not Canon....

[IceSaber]

Mine are all Sigma if not Canon....

[Guyute]

reviving this thread again :)

anyone familiar with the Nikon lenses enough to tell me about the AF-S DX models?

I'm pretty much between two packages from a seller I've found, which are identical, but one has "standard" lenses included, and one has the same lenses, in the DX version.

there's about a $160 price difference on the DX package.
not sure if it's worth the bump or not.
this is the Link (http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-D70s-Digital-SLR-Camera-2-Lens-1GB-Kit-NEW-USA_W0QQitemZ7610490716QQcategoryZ107912QQtcZphoto QQcmdZViewItem) to the DX package.
thanks for any input. :)

(btw- thanks to Shell's bright idea of applying for a new CC to get an intro no-interest deal, I'll have a D70 quite soon. :nanner: )

[Guyute]

reviving this thread again :)

anyone familiar with the Nikon lenses enough to tell me about the AF-S DX models?

I'm pretty much between two packages from a seller I've found, which are identical, but one has "standard" lenses included, and one has the same lenses, in the DX version.

there's about a $160 price difference on the DX package.
not sure if it's worth the bump or not.
this is the Link (http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-D70s-Digital-SLR-Camera-2-Lens-1GB-Kit-NEW-USA_W0QQitemZ7610490716QQcategoryZ107912QQtcZphoto QQcmdZViewItem) to the DX package.
thanks for any input. :)

(btw- thanks to Shell's bright idea of applying for a new CC to get an intro no-interest deal, I'll have a D70 quite soon. :nanner: )

[Guyute]

reviving this thread again :)

anyone familiar with the Nikon lenses enough to tell me about the AF-S DX models?

I'm pretty much between two packages from a seller I've found, which are identical, but one has "standard" lenses included, and one has the same lenses, in the DX version.

there's about a $160 price difference on the DX package.
not sure if it's worth the bump or not.
this is the Link (http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-D70s-Digital-SLR-Camera-2-Lens-1GB-Kit-NEW-USA_W0QQitemZ7610490716QQcategoryZ107912QQtcZphoto QQcmdZViewItem) to the DX package.
thanks for any input. :)

(btw- thanks to Shell's bright idea of applying for a new CC to get an intro no-interest deal, I'll have a D70 quite soon. :nanner: )

[Captain Slack]

The 18-70mm is the standard kit lens that comes with D70(s). I shot a few frames with it before selling the one that came with my kit (I had a Sigma 24-70mm that was better). It was a good lens I've seen some excellent photos taken with it.

Don't know much about the 55-200mm. "DX" is a designation that Nikon gives some lenses. Stands for "deluxe", I believe. Not sure what the difference is. Better glass? :huh:

If you go to any Southeastern Camera location in town or the Peace Camera on Peace St. you can see (& more importantly, fondle) both of these lenses. They might even be able to cut you a better deal than this Ebay seller.

http://www.southeasterncamera.com/

http://www.peacecamera.com/

[Captain Slack]

The 18-70mm is the standard kit lens that comes with D70(s). I shot a few frames with it before selling the one that came with my kit (I had a Sigma 24-70mm that was better). It was a good lens I've seen some excellent photos taken with it.

Don't know much about the 55-200mm. "DX" is a designation that Nikon gives some lenses. Stands for "deluxe", I believe. Not sure what the difference is. Better glass? :huh:

If you go to any Southeastern Camera location in town or the Peace Camera on Peace St. you can see (& more importantly, fondle) both of these lenses. They might even be able to cut you a better deal than this Ebay seller.

http://www.southeasterncamera.com/

http://www.peacecamera.com/

[Captain Slack]

The 18-70mm is the standard kit lens that comes with D70(s). I shot a few frames with it before selling the one that came with my kit (I had a Sigma 24-70mm that was better). It was a good lens I've seen some excellent photos taken with it.

Don't know much about the 55-200mm. "DX" is a designation that Nikon gives some lenses. Stands for "deluxe", I believe. Not sure what the difference is. Better glass? :huh:

If you go to any Southeastern Camera location in town or the Peace Camera on Peace St. you can see (& more importantly, fondle) both of these lenses. They might even be able to cut you a better deal than this Ebay seller.

http://www.southeasterncamera.com/

http://www.peacecamera.com/

[Guyute]

probably won't have all pieces until next week, but....

I'm now the proud owner of:

Nikon D70s
Sigma 28-70mm f/2.8-4
Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6
plus a few various goodies.

Thank you AmEx!! (intro no-APR and 5k limit sure helps. LOL)
:nanner: :nanner: :beer:

now- anyone have prefs on filters for DSLRs? I've always used Tiffen.. but recently read something about some lower-end filters slowing down lenses, especially with dslrs. could just be horsepuckey to sell $40 filters instead of the $7... but I'm not up for buying a couple of $40 filters just to find out if it makes a difference. any input is appreciated.

[Guyute]

probably won't have all pieces until next week, but....

I'm now the proud owner of:

Nikon D70s
Sigma 28-70mm f/2.8-4
Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6
plus a few various goodies.

Thank you AmEx!! (intro no-APR and 5k limit sure helps. LOL)
:nanner: :nanner: :beer:

now- anyone have prefs on filters for DSLRs? I've always used Tiffen.. but recently read something about some lower-end filters slowing down lenses, especially with dslrs. could just be horsepuckey to sell $40 filters instead of the $7... but I'm not up for buying a couple of $40 filters just to find out if it makes a difference. any input is appreciated.

[IceSaber]

CONGRATS!!!!!

[IceSaber]

CONGRATS!!!!!

[Captain Slack]

now- anyone have prefs on filters for DSLRs? I've always used Tiffen.. but recently read something about some lower-end filters slowing down lenses, especially with dslrs. could just be horsepuckey to sell $40 filters instead of the $7... but I'm not up for buying a couple of $40 filters just to find out if it makes a difference. any input is appreciated.

Congrats on the camera!! :cool: Go get a copy of the Magic Lantern guide to the D70. Should be available at the local B&N or Borders. It does a much better job of explaining how the camera operates than the manual does (i.e., it's written in English, not manualese).

I'd stick with the Tiffen's. Hoya is also good. Never heard about lower-end filters slowing down DSLR's. Some filters will change what f/stop you need to shoot at, but that's true of film or digital. But, you'll never know the difference, because the camera is metering THROUGH the filter and will compensate for any filtration affect.

[Captain Slack]

now- anyone have prefs on filters for DSLRs? I've always used Tiffen.. but recently read something about some lower-end filters slowing down lenses, especially with dslrs. could just be horsepuckey to sell $40 filters instead of the $7... but I'm not up for buying a couple of $40 filters just to find out if it makes a difference. any input is appreciated.

Congrats on the camera!! :cool: Go get a copy of the Magic Lantern guide to the D70. Should be available at the local B&N or Borders. It does a much better job of explaining how the camera operates than the manual does (i.e., it's written in English, not manualese).

I'd stick with the Tiffen's. Hoya is also good. Never heard about lower-end filters slowing down DSLR's. Some filters will change what f/stop you need to shoot at, but that's true of film or digital. But, you'll never know the difference, because the camera is metering THROUGH the filter and will compensate for any filtration affect.

[Guyute]

thanks all :)

I think I'll stick with the cheapo Tiffens. will just pick some up locally.

got my Sigma's in yesterday. very nice lenses... now I just need the camera to get here :)
ordered lenses from 47st Photo. Extremely good prices, and got here in 2 days. (for $8)

would order from them again for sure. now... hurry up camera! :D
guess I'll have it for game 5 (if needed)

oh- and I did order the magic lantern book, thanks

[Guyute]

thanks all :)

I think I'll stick with the cheapo Tiffens. will just pick some up locally.

got my Sigma's in yesterday. very nice lenses... now I just need the camera to get here :)
ordered lenses from 47st Photo. Extremely good prices, and got here in 2 days. (for $8)

would order from them again for sure. now... hurry up camera! :D
guess I'll have it for game 5 (if needed)

oh- and I did order the magic lantern book, thanks

[Guyute]

thanks all :)

I think I'll stick with the cheapo Tiffens. will just pick some up locally.

got my Sigma's in yesterday. very nice lenses... now I just need the camera to get here :)
ordered lenses from 47st Photo. Extremely good prices, and got here in 2 days. (for $8)

would order from them again for sure. now... hurry up camera! :D
guess I'll have it for game 5 (if needed)

oh- and I did order the magic lantern book, thanks

[Guyute]

thanks all :)

I think I'll stick with the cheapo Tiffens. will just pick some up locally.

got my Sigma's in yesterday. very nice lenses... now I just need the camera to get here :)
ordered lenses from 47st Photo. Extremely good prices, and got here in 2 days. (for $8)

would order from them again for sure. now... hurry up camera! :D
guess I'll have it for game 5 (if needed)

oh- and I did order the magic lantern book, thanks

[MeanGene]

I have the Canon 75-300 zoom. I found that I had to shoot at 800 ISO to get the shutter speed fast enough so it was not too blurred. A little grainy, but not too bad.

Also, being digital that 75-300 is actually something like 100-350. Can't remember for sure.

have fun with it!

[MeanGene]

I have the Canon 75-300 zoom. I found that I had to shoot at 800 ISO to get the shutter speed fast enough so it was not too blurred. A little grainy, but not too bad.

Also, being digital that 75-300 is actually something like 100-350. Can't remember for sure.

have fun with it!

[MeanGene]

I have the Canon 75-300 zoom. I found that I had to shoot at 800 ISO to get the shutter speed fast enough so it was not too blurred. A little grainy, but not too bad.

Also, being digital that 75-300 is actually something like 100-350. Can't remember for sure.

have fun with it!

[MeanGene]

I have the Canon 75-300 zoom. I found that I had to shoot at 800 ISO to get the shutter speed fast enough so it was not too blurred. A little grainy, but not too bad.

Also, being digital that 75-300 is actually something like 100-350. Can't remember for sure.

have fun with it!

[Captain Slack]

MG: a tripod or monopod would help with that. The general rule of thumb is not to use an ISO lower than your shutter speed. In your case, if your ISO is set to 200 and you're using that lens zoomed out to 300, don't set the shutter below 500.

Steading the camera with a monopod ought to buy you two more stops, though. A tripod will allow you to use any shutter/ISO/f-stop combonation.

[Captain Slack]

MG: a tripod or monopod would help with that. The general rule of thumb is not to use an ISO lower than your shutter speed. In your case, if your ISO is set to 200 and you're using that lens zoomed out to 300, don't set the shutter below 500.

Steading the camera with a monopod ought to buy you two more stops, though. A tripod will allow you to use any shutter/ISO/f-stop combonation.

[Guyute]

yeah, I'll be needing to pickup a monopod. I learned with my 300mm lens on my film slr, that it doesn't take much of a jitter to ruin a shot. and that lens isn't terribly light. lol

anyone take mono's into games?
I don't think I'll be bringing the camera in much with me-- due to dealing with Cole, and all the he entails... :lol:
but if we don't have him for a game here or there, I'd love to. so just curious if mono's are allowable or whatnot. would be much better off firing from up in 314 with a big lens, with something more stable than my hands.
also- any mono recomendations? (do you want a comission yet? lol)

[Guyute]

yeah, I'll be needing to pickup a monopod. I learned with my 300mm lens on my film slr, that it doesn't take much of a jitter to ruin a shot. and that lens isn't terribly light. lol

anyone take mono's into games?
I don't think I'll be bringing the camera in much with me-- due to dealing with Cole, and all the he entails... :lol:
but if we don't have him for a game here or there, I'd love to. so just curious if mono's are allowable or whatnot. would be much better off firing from up in 314 with a big lens, with something more stable than my hands.
also- any mono recomendations? (do you want a comission yet? lol)

[puck_it]

put your foot on your seat
rest camera on knee
...
profit

[puck_it]

put your foot on your seat
rest camera on knee
...
profit

[IceSaber]

I took a mono into one game - didn't see a real noticible improvement in my game shots - maybe a little in the pregame shots...

Wasn't worth the bulk I had to deal with. So I rest my foot on the seat in front and plant my elbows on my knee. Usually owrks during the game - not so much for pregames now that people stand in front of me - I have to rely on a steady hand which I don't have...

[IceSaber]

I took a mono into one game - didn't see a real noticible improvement in my game shots - maybe a little in the pregame shots...

Wasn't worth the bulk I had to deal with. So I rest my foot on the seat in front and plant my elbows on my knee. Usually owrks during the game - not so much for pregames now that people stand in front of me - I have to rely on a steady hand which I don't have...

[kpmnc24]

I am thinking of getting one of the new digital SLR cameras that cost around $600. Are they all about the same quality and features wise? I am looking at the Nikon D50 as my 1st choice.

[kpmnc24]

I am thinking of getting one of the new digital SLR cameras that cost around $600. Are they all about the same quality and features wise? I am looking at the Nikon D50 as my 1st choice.

[Guyute]

yeah, that's what I've done for awhile. and I guess I'll just get used to the lovely fact that I can take 300 shots if I want... as opposed to getting film developed and finding out my hand slid during the shot. a few of those 300 will be perfectly stable. hehe

yeah... don't think I'll have much trouble geting used to that. :D

[Guyute]

yeah, that's what I've done for awhile. and I guess I'll just get used to the lovely fact that I can take 300 shots if I want... as opposed to getting film developed and finding out my hand slid during the shot. a few of those 300 will be perfectly stable. hehe

yeah... don't think I'll have much trouble geting used to that. :D

[Guyute]

I am thinking of getting one of the new digital SLR cameras that cost around $600. Are they all about the same quality and features wise? I am looking at the Nikon D50 as my 1st choice.

If you want a nikon but are looking at keeping price low, I'd see if you can go D100. markably better (from what I've seen & read) than the D50, and shouldn't be too much more because they are a couple of years older too.

D70 (not D70s) is a good choice, and should be close to that range, since most people now buy the newer 's' model.

[Guyute]

I am thinking of getting one of the new digital SLR cameras that cost around $600. Are they all about the same quality and features wise? I am looking at the Nikon D50 as my 1st choice.

If you want a nikon but are looking at keeping price low, I'd see if you can go D100. markably better (from what I've seen & read) than the D50, and shouldn't be too much more because they are a couple of years older too.

D70 (not D70s) is a good choice, and should be close to that range, since most people now buy the newer 's' model.

[kpmnc24]

I'll buy a Canon, Olympus, Pentax, etc. digital SLR if they are a better deal. I am not only looking at Nikon. I don't want to go above $600. My wife has a 20 year old Nikon but I assume the lenses from that won't work on a new camera. It's so old, I don't think her camera is even auto focus.

[kpmnc24]

I'll buy a Canon, Olympus, Pentax, etc. digital SLR if they are a better deal. I am not only looking at Nikon. I don't want to go above $600. My wife has a 20 year old Nikon but I assume the lenses from that won't work on a new camera. It's so old, I don't think her camera is even auto focus.

[Guyute]

can't tell you anything about what other makers have out there, as I only considered Nikon & Canon. and for the featureset & price, Nikon was much better for me. your mileage may vary. certainly research all avenues.

www.dpreview.com is a good place to read.

[Guyute]

can't tell you anything about what other makers have out there, as I only considered Nikon & Canon. and for the featureset & price, Nikon was much better for me. your mileage may vary. certainly research all avenues.

www.dpreview.com is a good place to read.

[Captain Slack]

www.dpreview.com is a good place to read.

I'll second that.

As with anything else, you get what you pay for. The D50 is supposed to be a good camera. It uses the same lens mount as the older Nikon cameras, so you can mount older lenses. Whether you can meter with them is another question.

It pays to do some homework before shelling out that much money. dpreview is the best place to go, IMHO. They even have a questionaire you can fill out that will give you recommendations on models.