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Shell
05-28-2003, 03:30 PM
Bettman ready to discuss bigger nets
May. 28, 2003. 08:45 AM
NHL boss says talks probable
Wants to see more room for stars also
Damien Cox

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J.—Gary Bettman believes the time has come to seriously discuss making NHL nets bigger to create more scoring.

The NHL commissioner made the rather surprising admission yesterday in his annual Stanley Cup final address after another year in which the league featured a very low scoring brand of hockey.

"I said to (vice-president) Colin (Campbell), and we should probably talk about it over the summer, let the goaltenders wear whatever they want, just make the nets bigger and that will take care of any issues that anybody has about whether or not the equipment is too big or too small," he said.

"That is one way to approach it and it will probably get discussed."

As soon as Bettman made those comments, however, he quickly seemed to grasp the impact and started to back away.

"Discussed. Not necessarily implemented," he said. "Not necessarily pursued at 100 miles per hour."

League officials have become increasingly doubtful that anything major can be done to reduce the size of goaltending equipment, and some senior NHL officials who were once adamantly opposed to making the nets larger are now willing to listen.

Bettman also said the league plans to investigate ways to create more room for players in the offensive zone.

"The thing we hear most often is that our skill players want more room," said the commissioner.

Bettman, however, accused those who argue the game is in need of fundamental change of having "an axe to grind" and trotted out a variety of obscure statistics like the number of hat tricks and total points scored by NHL defencemen as proof the league does not have a scoring problem.

"I think the game can be improved," he said. "Is the game in a state of disrepair? I reject that notion."

Other topics touch upon by Bettman included:

http://www.waymoresports.com/images/sb_star10.gifLast fall's crackdown on obstruction and interference.

Bettman said the new standard has worked well and "categorically disagreed" with those who argue the league has "abandoned" the crackdown.

http://www.waymoresports.com/images/sb_star10.gifThe state of labour talks between the league and the players union.

Bettman said there are no talks ongoing and that he's waiting for the union to come to the table. "I can't dance this dance alone," he said.

After praising the newly improved financial state of teams in Buffalo and Ottawa, Bettman reaffirmed that the league needs major economic changes.

"We all know the problems," he said. "I certainly know how to address them."

http://www.waymoresports.com/images/sb_star10.gifDropping TV numbers.

Bettman suggested that the absence of the Maple Leafs after the first round has hurt ratings in Canada, noting that compared to the '98 playoffs, a year in which the Leafs missed the playoffs, ratings were actually up.

South of the border, he dismissed concerns over low ratings on ESPN and ABC and said he doesn't believe the next U.S. network contract is in trouble.

"I am confident at some point the passion for our sport will translate into a higher national TV profile in the U.S.," he said. "I am not the least bit concerned about our next U.S TV contract."

http://www.waymoresports.com/images/sb_star10.gifProposals to take out the red line for two-line passes or introduce a new system in which teams would be awarded three points for a regulation win in order to increase scoring.

Bettman indicated the league isn't seriously pursuing either option.

tommy
05-28-2003, 03:46 PM
or introduce a new system in which teams would be awarded three points for a regulation win in order to increase scoring.

Bettman indicated the league isn't seriously pursuing either option.


They really should do that. Teams go into a defensive shell once they've earned their one point; and another is a bonus. Can you imagine the actual effort we'd see if they were playing for TWO MORE points?

Turbulence
05-28-2003, 03:55 PM
They really should do that. Teams go into a defensive shell once they've earned their one point; and another is a bonus. Can you imagine the actual effort we'd see if they were playing for TWO MORE points?

Amen...OT hockey right now is a joke, especially at only 5 minutes. This would up the ante and we'd see overtime like we've been seeing this playoffs.

And I'm all for making the nets bigger...It would be hard to uniformely decrease the legal size for pads...there will always be cheating of some sort. With a bigger net, you don't face that problem.

Tell me this, to both solutions, Why Not?

SouthernHockeyChick
05-28-2003, 06:56 PM
All I can say to Gary Bettman is...... LEAVE THE FREAKIN' GAME ALONE YOU NBA HACK!!!!

Stormbringer
05-28-2003, 07:01 PM
All I can say to Gary Bettman is...... LEAVE THE FREAKIN' GAME ALONE YOU NBA HACK!!!!

http://websmileys.bei.t-online.de/div179.gif Right on, sister... http://websmileys.bei.t-online.de/div179.gif

VandyCane
05-28-2003, 08:08 PM
Of all the proposals being discussed, making the nets bigger seems to me the most intriguing. With the speed of the puck you are not going to see smaller goalie equiment. It is just not going to happen. Goalies now seem to be much bigger framed now than in the past. Making the nets bigger would make for much more exciting goaltending. I know all that "square to the puck" stuff is fundamentally sound, but I must admit that watching Hasek's "flailing" makes the game more entertaining to me.

moonstomper
05-28-2003, 08:14 PM
Well it wouldnt be noticeable if they did add an inch, but I think they should make the rink bigger and/or move the nets up a little

Shell
05-28-2003, 09:00 PM
or move the nets back to where they used to be.. then all of our guys couldn't spend all their time behind it! ;)

SouthernHockeyChick
05-28-2003, 09:05 PM
or move the nets back to where they used to be.. then all of our guys couldn't spend all their time behind it! ;)

Yeah, but then Ronnie couldn't make those amazing no-look passes from behind the net straight out to the guy with the open shot either! :p ;)

nccanes
06-01-2003, 11:00 AM
Interesting read. They picked a great 7th man...

Despite Bettman's soothing words, NHL's problems likely won't go away

By ALAN ROBINSON, AP Sports Writer
May 31, 2003
ANAHEIM, Calif. (AP) -- Television ratings, already the lowest of the major pro team sports, are reaching billiards-like levels.

Two teams went into bankruptcy this season, and goal scoring is flat-lining despite annual attempts to make the game more exciting and viewer-friendly.

Even those willing to pay $75 and more for seats are nodding off during neutral zone trap-filled games in which the few shots that get through are smothered by goalies so thickly padded they resemble a real-life Michelin man.

Oh, and this too -- the head of the players' union is warning his members the sport might shut down for 18 months or more if a new labor deal isn't reached next year.

All these problems, and you want to be the NHL commissioner for a day?

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman ceremonially delegated his duties to U.S. Army helicopter pilot Roger Farina as the Stanley Cup finals began Tuesday. Farina, of East Meadow, N.Y., is such a big hockey fan that two of his children were given middle names taken from former Islanders stars.

If Bettman was expecting Farina to tag along and stay quiet, he was wrong; Farina spoke up at the meetings he attended and voiced his concerns about the state of today's game.

Bettman listed, nodded and took notes, then, a few hours later at his annual Stanley Cup news conference, spoke glowingly about all that is right with hockey: its passionate fans, the big local TV ratings it attracts during the playoffs and the slighter-than-slight uptick in goal scoring this season.

Hockey fans who read his comments must have wondered why Roger Farina was allowed to keep the job for only a day. Many of the NHL's traditionalists may be in self-denial, but all signs indicate the league has problems, and they are many, and they aren't likely to get addressed in the short term.

Hockey, much like baseball, is a sport in which many fans are devoted to their favorite team but are indifferent about watching other teams play. Even so, the NHL's 0.7 playoff ratings on ESPN and 0.4 on ESPN2 are about the same as pro billiards and bass fishing. NASCAR gets about six times the viewers the NHL does; the NBA about five times as many.

Game 1 of the Devils-Mighty Ducks finals Tuesday drew a 1.4 rating on ESPN, less than half the 2.9 the popular Red Wings attracted for Game 1 against Carolina last year.

TV ratings are down appreciably even in hockey-loving Canada, where there are about five times as many viewers for playoff games as in the United States, a country roughly nine times as large.

Even a Stanley Cup finals matching teams from the two largest TV markets isn't a big ratings draw locally; neither the Devils nor the Mighty Ducks is the most popular team in its market. And neither city ranks in the top 10 in hockey ratings; Minnesota's 6.4 rating for ABC's playoff telecasts is more than four times higher than Los Angeles' 1.5.

Still, Bettman disagrees that hockey has become like soccer in that goal-scoring occurs only occasionally and should be celebrated wildly. He insists there's nothing wrong with low-scoring games, as long as they are exciting.

``There's nothing magic about an 8-1 game,'' he said. ``They (fans) want exciting games. They want close games, but they're not looking for more goals for the sake of more goals. I'm not sure if the politically correct police ever said that the number of goals translates into how exciting a game is.''

Still, Bettman held out some faint hope for hockey fans that the league would at least consider a rules change that would almost guarantee an upswing in scoring: making the 6-foot wide and 4-foot high net bigger.

Of course, Ducks goaltender Jean-Sebastien Giguere and Devils goaltender Martin Brodeur immediately spoke out, saying such a change would alter the game so dramatically that all records would immediately become obsolete.

``I think the game's fine right now,'' Giguere said.

No doubt Giguere might change his mind come contract time if the NHL doesn't land a new TV contract similar to its soon-to-expire $600 million, five-year with ABC and ESPN.

Of making the net bigger, Bettman said, ``It probably will get discussed. Discussed, not necessarily implemented, not necessarily pursued at 100 miles per hour.''

That's where hockey purists, and there are many in prominent positions among NHL teams, need not worry: nothing in the sport moves at that speed except for an Al MacInnis slap shot.


I don't know how I feel about the size of the goals, but when you can look at older footage and see how small the goalies were - both in size and padding size, you have to admit there is less open net to find. If they can reduce the goalie pads w/o putting them at risk, I think that's fair.

Turbulence
06-01-2003, 11:17 AM
That's great that the 7th man didn't sit like a beached whale...glad he took the opportunity to speak his mind.

I was watching some of the old Patrick Roy games on ESPN Classic a few nights ago and it amazed me how much scoring there was and how exciting it was. Obviously back then it was easier to score, and the game was more exciting to watch.
You make a good point nccanes...not all goalies are the same size and not all goalies can cover the same amount of space, even if shorties like Archie are allowed to have bigger pads than someone bigger like Olaf Kolzig...but obviously a system of allowing smaller goalies to have bigger pads wouldn't work. Pad size is so inconsistant and it seems like you could fudge a little bit on the rule without it being contested...
What are the disadvantages of leaving pad size alone and making the nets bigger? It means small players like Archie and Fred Brathwaite have more area to cover...but so what. Ollie and Weeksie have more area to cover too. Small players have always had to guard the same area as larger goalies, so I don't see how making the goals larger would put them at a disadvantage. It would be a systematic and effective way to increase scoring...which should lead to more exciting hockey and more viewers.

Jeff O Rocks
06-01-2003, 12:04 PM
With the goalies getting bigger in size and more talented, they may have to make the nets bigger, otherwise no one will be able to score...it is hard enough as it is to get a puck past Jiggy and Brodeur! :crazy:

Unfortunately, we can't say the same thing about Arch and Weeksey this past season!! :sad: