View Full Version : EXPLANATION NEEDED ASAP!
Adrenaline
05-29-2003, 11:55 PM
Someone please explain to me what icing is before it drives me nuts...none of my friends have been able to explain to me what it is and every time I ask someone they are like..."it's hard to explain." So does anyone have enough brainpower around here to explain it??? :eek2: Thank you!!!!! :D
Stormbringer
05-30-2003, 12:01 AM
I don't think anyone can explain icing better than these dudes...
http://www.carolinahurricanes.com/hockeyu/rule2.asp
:)
Alicia
05-30-2003, 12:04 AM
From ch.com :
Icing is called when a player behind the red line in his end of the rink shoots a puck past the goal line in his offensive zone when both teams are playing at even strength. Play is stopped when an opponent other than the goalie touches the puck. Icing is considered an infraction because it can be used by teams to take away legitimate scoring chances from skaters on the offensive.
Hope this helps...sometimes it's better to actually see it when it's happening, 'cause it is kinda hard to explain. :)
folgersnyourcup
05-30-2003, 07:13 AM
It's on the stale donut I'm eating now.
But yeah, BatesB and SB are dead on the money here.
Guyute
05-30-2003, 07:51 AM
icing is hard to explain? hmm. you might want to try and sit next to different folks ;) hehe
the seats next to ours are usually not for STH's, and half of the time someone sits there, I'm doing hockey 101 for half the game. that's how you get people sucked in. don't be afraid to ask questions at games (I know that's not relevant right now)... quite a few of the people there would be able to answer a couple of questions. if you get lucky, you'll sit next to someone who has been around and involved in the sport for 25+ years. ;)
An easy way to remember what icing is= When the puck is shot more than half the length of the ice. that's about all you have to remember. red line at center is center ice. shoot it to the other end from your own side, it goes more than half the length of the ice. where it may get confusing is "Why are icings waived off". This is very discretionary. Usually it's waived off if a player could've played the puck, but chose to dog it, and make it look like he's trying to get to it, but not really. icing is waived because he should've played it.
This is worth repeating---- ask questions. this is the place to do it. we can start a hockey 101 thread if necessary. I'll be glad to be one of the teachers.
Adrenaline
05-30-2003, 10:49 AM
i still dont get it :cry:
folgersnyourcup
05-30-2003, 11:04 AM
Okay, if, for example Ron Francis is sitting behind the net waiting to make a play. He passes out to say..... Jeff O'Neill. But crap, the puck doesn't connect with Jeff's stick. It hops right over it and continues on it's way down the ice crossing the red line in the center and coming to a stop behind the other team's net where it is touched by a player on the opposing team. That is icing. If Ryan Bayda of the Canes had skated fast down to where the puck stopped behind the other teams' net and touched it before a player on the other team did then there would be no icing.
It is used so that when a team is putting pressure offensively on another team, the other team cannot just simply slap the puck out of their zone as hard as they can. They would be called for icing and the faceoff would remain in their zone.
Icing can be averted by crossing the red line and THEN dumping it into the zone. You will see players do this a lot. They make sure to try and cross the red line before dumping the puck into the zone and then either going off on a line change or hanging back and waiting for his players to rush in and grab the puck and try to score.
On a powerplay only the team that is on the powerplay can be called for icing. The team that is down one man gets a bit of a break in the form of being able to clear the zone by just hitting the puck as hard as they can out of it without fear of getting an icing call.
I hope this helps.
MCAngel
05-30-2003, 11:12 AM
:angel:
Shell
05-30-2003, 12:19 PM
i still dont get it :cry:
does this help?
http://www.hbsundevils.com/hockey101/hockey101images/icing.gif
*If you do not pass the middle red line before you hit the puck and it crosses the red line where the goal is (and no one else has touched it) that is icing.
*If the team you are playing against is on a power play, you are allowed to (and want to) ice it.
*If the referee decides someone could have touched the puck after you hit it, he can waive the icing (which means he won't call it and play continues),
*and last, if you do ice the puck but your team gets to the puck first, that is OK and icing will not be called.
Canesluver
05-30-2003, 12:20 PM
I think it's important to point out, too, that sometimes icing is intentional. You'll see this happen, Adrenaline, if the defending team has had a long shift, their goalie's getting pounded, and they're looking for a line change.
HubbyHatesHockey
05-30-2003, 12:37 PM
I have a question related to icing. Say the Hurricanes shoot the puck to the other end of the rink, crossing 2 red lines, but they skate fast enough to be the first team to touch it. I've heard some people say that the play should be whistled dead because that's a 2-line pass. Is it?
Stormbringer
05-30-2003, 12:57 PM
I have a question related to icing. Say the Hurricanes shoot the puck to the other end of the rink, crossing 2 red lines, but they skate fast enough to be the first team to touch it. I've heard some people say that the play should be whistled dead because that's a 2-line pass. Is it?
I don't think that would be considered a two-line pass because the Canes are not "passing" per se. Then again, the way NHL refs are these days, it might be considered a two-line pass... :roll: (shrugs her shoulders)
folgersnyourcup
05-30-2003, 01:04 PM
Even if it somehow took a wierd bounce, hit the boards behind the goal, jumped up back over the goal and fell down and into the net without touching the goalie knowing this season the refs would still find some penalty behind the play to call.
"TWO MINUTES FOR SEAN HILL TAP DANCING TO THE BENCH TO GO OFF ON A LINE CHANGE AND MAKING COACH MAURICE FORGET WHAT HE HAD TO PICK UP FROM THE STORE!"
or:
"TWO MINUTES FOR CELEBRATING THE GOAL BEFORE IT WAS PUT UP ON THE SCOREBOARD. NO GOAL!"
Hehe.
Jeff O Rocks
05-30-2003, 01:06 PM
"TWO MINUTES FOR SEAN HILL TAP DANCING TO THE BENCH TO GO OFF ON A LINE CHANGE AND MAKING COACH MAURICE FORGET WHAT HE HAD TO PICK UP FROM THE STORE!"
or:
"TWO MINUTES FOR CELEBRATING THE GOAL BEFORE IT WAS PUT UP ON THE SCOREBOARD. NO GOAL!"
Hehe.
The way of the 2002-2003 season...sad but true!! :roll:
Jillsdad
05-30-2003, 01:06 PM
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
Guyute
05-30-2003, 01:07 PM
Here's another pic:
http://www.wtv-zone.com/dhc/images/pos1.gif
as for the 2-line pass question... if it was shot from our side of center, and crosses the far goalline, then it would be icing. But, if we get there first, icing is waived. Why wouldn't it be a 2-line pass? Well... because it was going to be an icing.... except we beat it out.
there are of course confusing little "why'd they call that???" plays constantly, some of which, I don't even know what they're doing. (not that I'm all knowing or anything, but I do in most cases know what's going on)
*In Gameshow Host's Quiet Voice* Today's Word Is: .......Discretionary.
Stormbringer
05-30-2003, 01:12 PM
Even if it somehow took a wierd bounce, hit the boards behind the goal, jumped up back over the goal and fell down and into the net without touching the goalie knowing this season the refs would still find some penalty behind the play to call.
"TWO MINUTES FOR SEAN HILL TAP DANCING TO THE BENCH TO GO OFF ON A LINE CHANGE AND MAKING COACH MAURICE FORGET WHAT HE HAD TO PICK UP FROM THE STORE!"
or:
"TWO MINUTES FOR CELEBRATING THE GOAL BEFORE IT WAS PUT UP ON THE SCOREBOARD. NO GOAL!"
Hehe.
http://216.40.249.192/s/otn/realhappy/xxrotflmao.gif
And kind of like Mona said, so much like this past season that it's scary... :crazy:
It should also be pointed out that if the goalie moves to play the puck, icing is waved off.
-Kat
folgersnyourcup
05-30-2003, 02:16 PM
Ooo, and if it goes through the crease. The goalies' make sure to watch the puck very closely if it looks like it's going to go through their crease or not to know whether or not they are going to need to play the puck.
Alicia
05-30-2003, 03:18 PM
I agree with MCAngel, it does help if you can actually see this in progress.
Adrenaline
05-30-2003, 04:08 PM
:eek2: omg...those visuals and rules bout icing helped SO much! thank you so much guys...I FINALLY GET IT!!!! :D :D :D
MeanGene
05-31-2003, 12:10 AM
2 Line Pass Rule- This rule only applies to the blue lines and the center ice line. You can pass a puck from behind the end line and it can cross the nearest blue line and two line pass would not be called.
Also, for the 2 line pass, if a player is behind the puck, he is fine. You could shoot the puck from behind the red line, and the puck could cross the blue line into the offensive zone without being touched, and the puck is live, no matter who touches it. The key is to being behind the puck.
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