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KRAZYCANE05
05-03-2006, 04:13 PM
Here is what my ticket rep said about the playoff strip prices for round 3 and 4 LOL

Steve,

I have not seen the approved pricing for the playoffs yet. Invoices are being stuffed and fed-ex'd out tomorrow to you.

Sorry I can't be of more help at this point,

-Matt

Ok how do you not know the prices but are fed-exing them out tomorrow?? I guess we will just have to wait

KRAZYCANE05
05-03-2006, 04:13 PM
Here is what my ticket rep said about the playoff strip prices for round 3 and 4 LOL

Steve,

I have not seen the approved pricing for the playoffs yet. Invoices are being stuffed and fed-ex'd out tomorrow to you.

Sorry I can't be of more help at this point,

-Matt

Ok how do you not know the prices but are fed-exing them out tomorrow?? I guess we will just have to wait

nccanes
05-03-2006, 05:00 PM
I'm with you KK - I call BS.

Which must mean it's bad news. :lol:

nccanes
05-03-2006, 05:00 PM
I'm with you KK - I call BS.

Which must mean it's bad news. :lol:

puck_it
05-03-2006, 05:08 PM
ok, so i logged into account manager... go to view/pay invoices

heres the pricing for rounds 3 and 4 for the upper end goal zone.


2005-06 Playoff Rd. 3
Section 333,(1 Seat) $200.00

2005-06 Playoff Rd. 4
Section 333,(1 Seat) $280.00

Playoff Mailing Fee Rnds 3&4
(1 item) $10.00

sooo for both rounds its going to cost me $490 total due date is the 12th

puck_it
05-03-2006, 05:08 PM
ok, so i logged into account manager... go to view/pay invoices

heres the pricing for rounds 3 and 4 for the upper end goal zone.


2005-06 Playoff Rd. 3
Section 333,(1 Seat) $200.00

2005-06 Playoff Rd. 4
Section 333,(1 Seat) $280.00

Playoff Mailing Fee Rnds 3&4
(1 item) $10.00

sooo for both rounds its going to cost me $490 total due date is the 12th

tommy
05-03-2006, 05:10 PM
you MUST be sh*tting me. im not gonna be able to go to any more games now... walk up prices will be crazy..

tommy
05-03-2006, 05:10 PM
you MUST be sh*tting me. im not gonna be able to go to any more games now... walk up prices will be crazy..

nccanes
05-03-2006, 05:12 PM
ok, so i logged into account manager... go to view/pay invoices

heres the pricing for rounds 3 and 4 for the upper end goal zone.


2005-06 Playoff Rd. 3
Section 333,(1 Seat) $200.00

2005-06 Playoff Rd. 4
Section 333,(1 Seat) $280.00

Playoff Mailing Fee Rnds 3&4
(1 item) $10.00


sooo for both rounds its going to cost me $490 total due date is the 12th

So could you lay out the 4 rounds of strip pricing/seat?

HOLY SH!T - I just did mine.

Mezzanine Strip Pricing

1st round - 35
2nd round - 40
3rd round - 75
4th round - 100

This is the UPPER LEVEL people

LL South

1st round - 57
2nd round - I forget
3rd round - 90
4th round - 135

I'm totally depressed - and angry.

nccanes
05-03-2006, 05:12 PM
ok, so i logged into account manager... go to view/pay invoices

heres the pricing for rounds 3 and 4 for the upper end goal zone.


2005-06 Playoff Rd. 3
Section 333,(1 Seat) $200.00

2005-06 Playoff Rd. 4
Section 333,(1 Seat) $280.00

Playoff Mailing Fee Rnds 3&4
(1 item) $10.00


sooo for both rounds its going to cost me $490 total due date is the 12th

So could you lay out the 4 rounds of strip pricing/seat?

HOLY SH!T - I just did mine.

Mezzanine Strip Pricing

1st round - 35
2nd round - 40
3rd round - 75
4th round - 100

This is the UPPER LEVEL people

LL South

1st round - 57
2nd round - I forget
3rd round - 90
4th round - 135

I'm totally depressed - and angry.

puck_it
05-03-2006, 05:12 PM
each is figured with 4 games.... so upper goal zone comes to $50 for round 3 (from $25) and $70 for the SCF

yes for the upper goal zone... and yes, for the STH discount.

puck_it
05-03-2006, 05:12 PM
each is figured with 4 games.... so upper goal zone comes to $50 for round 3 (from $25) and $70 for the SCF

yes for the upper goal zone... and yes, for the STH discount.

ONeillsNo1Fan
05-03-2006, 05:13 PM
^^^I'm so with you, tommy. $40 for a $10 ticket? Even more the 3rd and 4th? Sucks to be poor. :sad:

ONeillsNo1Fan
05-03-2006, 05:13 PM
^^^I'm so with you, tommy. $40 for a $10 ticket? Even more the 3rd and 4th? Sucks to be poor. :sad:

puck_it
05-03-2006, 05:14 PM
my guess is round 3 the 10.29 seats will be 75 at gate and round 4 will be 100.

just goin from mark up from the first round


i'll have the money like 10 days after its due, but im gonan have to get a short term loan from mom and da for a week or so since i dont have a regular credit card.

puck_it
05-03-2006, 05:14 PM
my guess is round 3 the 10.29 seats will be 75 at gate and round 4 will be 100.

just goin from mark up from the first round


i'll have the money like 10 days after its due, but im gonan have to get a short term loan from mom and da for a week or so since i dont have a regular credit card.

tommy
05-03-2006, 05:22 PM
well, talked to the pops, and he said that he'd by us 2 tickets for round 2, and the same deal for any further round we get to... one game per series, which is cool with me, because hten maybe, just maybe, i can spring for one extra game...

tommy
05-03-2006, 05:22 PM
well, talked to the pops, and he said that he'd by us 2 tickets for round 2, and the same deal for any further round we get to... one game per series, which is cool with me, because hten maybe, just maybe, i can spring for one extra game...

talkingcanes
05-03-2006, 05:23 PM
LL North - 111

3rd round $85 STH price per game

4th round $125 each

What are they thinking? Who will walk up and pay a ton more than this? If STH are paying this, what is the rest of the world expected to pony up?

talkingcanes
05-03-2006, 05:23 PM
LL North - 111

3rd round $85 STH price per game

4th round $125 each

What are they thinking? Who will walk up and pay a ton more than this? If STH are paying this, what is the rest of the world expected to pony up?

nccanes
05-03-2006, 05:25 PM
Wow - this really puts a damper on my playoff excitement.

I've got one HUGE ASS bill coming - like way bigger than what I'd hoped to spend on my summer family vacation. And WAAAAAAAAAAY more than what I'll owe for my 06-07 seats even if we advance into the 3rd round, but not beyond (and 3 times what I'd owe if we don't advance at all). So that means that I'll have to do the wait for a refund dance unless we got all the way to the finals.

Dunno - gotta digest this whole thing. $5000 is a lot of money. :eek2:

nccanes
05-03-2006, 05:25 PM
Wow - this really puts a damper on my playoff excitement.

I've got one HUGE ASS bill coming - like way bigger than what I'd hoped to spend on my summer family vacation. And WAAAAAAAAAAY more than what I'll owe for my 06-07 seats even if we advance into the 3rd round, but not beyond (and 3 times what I'd owe if we don't advance at all). So that means that I'll have to do the wait for a refund dance unless we got all the way to the finals.

Dunno - gotta digest this whole thing. $5000 is a lot of money. :eek2:

puck_it
05-03-2006, 05:29 PM
Wow - this really puts a damper on my playoff excitement.


it seriously does

puck_it
05-03-2006, 05:29 PM
Wow - this really puts a damper on my playoff excitement.


it seriously does

nccanes
05-03-2006, 05:31 PM
Yup.

We may have to scale back - seriously. :sad:

It's really sad because now we "know" what it will cost if we get to the finals - and it'll only be more expensive as the years go on. Guess you can figure out how corporate seats become the norm, huh?

Maybe Cool Bars for Home games will work. :sad:

nccanes
05-03-2006, 05:31 PM
Yup.

We may have to scale back - seriously. :sad:

It's really sad because now we "know" what it will cost if we get to the finals - and it'll only be more expensive as the years go on. Guess you can figure out how corporate seats become the norm, huh?

Maybe Cool Bars for Home games will work. :sad:

puck_it
05-03-2006, 05:32 PM
or IS can have home game parties

puck_it
05-03-2006, 05:32 PM
or IS can have home game parties

nccanes
05-03-2006, 05:34 PM
or IS can have home game parties

True.

Okay - a question I probably should know already. Can we re-request our strip locations between rounds 2 and 3?

Ah forget it - I think I already know we'll just reduce our 4 LL South tickets to 2 - and draw straws on who gets to go. And STILL have to pay over 3k. :hurl:

nccanes
05-03-2006, 05:34 PM
or IS can have home game parties

True.

Okay - a question I probably should know already. Can we re-request our strip locations between rounds 2 and 3?

Ah forget it - I think I already know we'll just reduce our 4 LL South tickets to 2 - and draw straws on who gets to go. And STILL have to pay over 3k. :hurl:

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 05:36 PM
Damn. I thought we had estimated a pretty liberal price increase per round. That invoice total puts our playoff tickets at a full grand higher than we'd estimated. :eek2:

Sh*t. Figures this org would make me sorry I upgraded in support of it.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 05:36 PM
Damn. I thought we had estimated a pretty liberal price increase per round. That invoice total puts our playoff tickets at a full grand higher than we'd estimated. :eek2:

Sh*t. Figures this org would make me sorry I upgraded in support of it.

puck_it
05-03-2006, 05:40 PM
ok im doing a breakdown on the upper goal zone pricing percentage wise.

round cost % more season %more previous round
1 $20 66% n/a
2 $25 108% 25%
3 $50 317% 100%
4 $70 483% 40%

puck_it
05-03-2006, 05:40 PM
ok im doing a breakdown on the upper goal zone pricing percentage wise.

round cost % more season %more previous round
1 $20 66% n/a
2 $25 108% 25%
3 $50 317% 100%
4 $70 483% 40%

nccanes
05-03-2006, 05:41 PM
Yup - no clue this would happen. I figured things would be more expensive than in '02 - but never dreamed...

It's interesting that our seats in the mezzanine go up 285% between rounds 1 and 4, while our LL South seats go up "only" 236%. Why is that I wonder?

I'm not even going to bother sending my rep an email because he'll just waste my time giving me the company line - I guess I'll email Kyle Prairie, because I certainly feel duped. I don't want an explanation - because what's done is done - but I sure as hell want them to know that I'm not happy.

nccanes
05-03-2006, 05:41 PM
Yup - no clue this would happen. I figured things would be more expensive than in '02 - but never dreamed...

It's interesting that our seats in the mezzanine go up 285% between rounds 1 and 4, while our LL South seats go up "only" 236%. Why is that I wonder?

I'm not even going to bother sending my rep an email because he'll just waste my time giving me the company line - I guess I'll email Kyle Prairie, because I certainly feel duped. I don't want an explanation - because what's done is done - but I sure as hell want them to know that I'm not happy.

KRAZYCANE05
05-03-2006, 05:44 PM
We have 3 seats in 333 and the 3 of us that goes are college sudents. I really don't think we can come up with $480 for the next 2 rounds. I believe they are going to lose people for the next 2 rounds. Sorry Canes most people aren't rich enough to shell out those kind of prices per game. Oh well mybe I will spend that money a big screen TV.

KRAZYCANE05
05-03-2006, 05:44 PM
We have 3 seats in 333 and the 3 of us that goes are college sudents. I really don't think we can come up with $480 for the next 2 rounds. I believe they are going to lose people for the next 2 rounds. Sorry Canes most people aren't rich enough to shell out those kind of prices per game. Oh well mybe I will spend that money a big screen TV.

perfectstorm
05-03-2006, 05:45 PM
WOW....$2290.00 for two seats in 102 for rounds 3 and 4.

:eek:

perfectstorm
05-03-2006, 05:45 PM
WOW....$2290.00 for two seats in 102 for rounds 3 and 4.

:eek:

CaniacKikiBB13
05-03-2006, 05:52 PM
This sucks...$1,930 for the four of us, and that's up in the "cheap" seats...never saw this coming. Anyone know if the money from game 7 is already included in this?

CaniacKikiBB13
05-03-2006, 05:52 PM
This sucks...$1,930 for the four of us, and that's up in the "cheap" seats...never saw this coming. Anyone know if the money from game 7 is already included in this?

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 05:52 PM
I just re-did my math and this actually isn't THAT much more than what we'd figured as worst-case scenario. I guess I'd hoped they might surprise me for once.

Sure will suck to have a building full of non-fans or the opposing team's fans because they've priced the real Caniacs slap out of the building.

I've always defended them on prices but this is a bit much. I mean, what on earth will gate price be!?! I expect a hefty increase...it is the Stanley Cup Finals we're talking about....but...I don't know. Seems like a bit much.

Did we all just mis-remember the kind of increase between rounds from 2002?

And no, the money from game 7 isn't figured in. Problem is, you don't get that money until next year.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 05:52 PM
I just re-did my math and this actually isn't THAT much more than what we'd figured as worst-case scenario. I guess I'd hoped they might surprise me for once.

Sure will suck to have a building full of non-fans or the opposing team's fans because they've priced the real Caniacs slap out of the building.

I've always defended them on prices but this is a bit much. I mean, what on earth will gate price be!?! I expect a hefty increase...it is the Stanley Cup Finals we're talking about....but...I don't know. Seems like a bit much.

Did we all just mis-remember the kind of increase between rounds from 2002?

And no, the money from game 7 isn't figured in. Problem is, you don't get that money until next year.

KRAZYCANE05
05-03-2006, 05:54 PM
I just emailed my ticket rep that they have lost 3 true fans for rounds 3 and 4 if they go that far because we can't afford the prices. This day really sucks!!! :mad:

KRAZYCANE05
05-03-2006, 05:54 PM
I just emailed my ticket rep that they have lost 3 true fans for rounds 3 and 4 if they go that far because we can't afford the prices. This day really sucks!!! :mad:

puck_it
05-03-2006, 05:58 PM
:cry:

well if we make a run again, looks like ill ahve to get a 10 game pack to retain my sth status

puck_it
05-03-2006, 05:58 PM
:cry:

well if we make a run again, looks like ill ahve to get a 10 game pack to retain my sth status

nccanes
05-03-2006, 05:58 PM
Did we all just mis-remember the kind of increase between rounds from 2002?

No - we're not misremembering. I had a miniplan in LL North in '02. I think the seats were less than $40 (this was before the '02-'03 increase). I think round 1 seats were damn close to my regular season price. I know for a fact my SCF seats were $75 in strips. That seat is $125 this go round.


And no, the money from game 7 isn't figured in. Problem is, you don't get that money until next year.

I thought it went towards this next invoice. Not that it'll help much - it's a drop in the bucket.

nccanes
05-03-2006, 05:58 PM
Did we all just mis-remember the kind of increase between rounds from 2002?

No - we're not misremembering. I had a miniplan in LL North in '02. I think the seats were less than $40 (this was before the '02-'03 increase). I think round 1 seats were damn close to my regular season price. I know for a fact my SCF seats were $75 in strips. That seat is $125 this go round.


And no, the money from game 7 isn't figured in. Problem is, you don't get that money until next year.

I thought it went towards this next invoice. Not that it'll help much - it's a drop in the bucket.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 06:01 PM
From CH.com:


What happens with leftover playoff money from unplayed games?

Any money left over from unplayed games will automatically roll into the 2006-2007 season, guaranteeing your seat location and early bird discount. If you would like a refund, a written request must be received by our box office. Refunds will be given via check, please allow 4-6 weeks for delivery. All accounts requesting a refund will forgo their seating priority and early bird discount

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 06:01 PM
From CH.com:


What happens with leftover playoff money from unplayed games?

Any money left over from unplayed games will automatically roll into the 2006-2007 season, guaranteeing your seat location and early bird discount. If you would like a refund, a written request must be received by our box office. Refunds will be given via check, please allow 4-6 weeks for delivery. All accounts requesting a refund will forgo their seating priority and early bird discount

nccanes
05-03-2006, 06:02 PM
Here is what my ticket rep said about the playoff strip prices for round 3 and 4 LOL

Steve,

I have not seen the approved pricing for the playoffs yet. Invoices are being stuffed and fed-ex'd out tomorrow to you.

Sorry I can't be of more help at this point,

-Matt

Ok how do you not know the prices but are fed-exing them out tomorrow?? I guess we will just have to wait

I know I'm going on about this - but the fact that this rep had the 'nads to make this claim has me even more pissed.

I hope you included this bogus blow off in your email to the Canes. If they aren't man enough to answer the question, then get the f out.

I think I have to wait to send my email. If I send it now - I'll probably say something I'll regret.

nccanes
05-03-2006, 06:02 PM
Here is what my ticket rep said about the playoff strip prices for round 3 and 4 LOL

Steve,

I have not seen the approved pricing for the playoffs yet. Invoices are being stuffed and fed-ex'd out tomorrow to you.

Sorry I can't be of more help at this point,

-Matt

Ok how do you not know the prices but are fed-exing them out tomorrow?? I guess we will just have to wait

I know I'm going on about this - but the fact that this rep had the 'nads to make this claim has me even more pissed.

I hope you included this bogus blow off in your email to the Canes. If they aren't man enough to answer the question, then get the f out.

I think I have to wait to send my email. If I send it now - I'll probably say something I'll regret.

SoCalcaniac
05-03-2006, 06:04 PM
Mr. Socal was $200 off the guesstimate for our seats- boy, they really went for broke so to speak eh? He just paid the invoice on account manager, and we dodged a bullet so to speak, but I have issues with this marked increase in the rounds 3/4 pricing. And I know we didn't see that big a jump in 2002 for our seats even when we got to the finals.

I guess we all need to voice our displeasure- I'm drafting my email to Kyle Prairie cause it doesn't matter if I'm paying this invoice and we're not gonna have an issue with the payment- what has me mad, is that many people I know, will probably have to cut back or make changes to the 'plan' for rounds 3 and 4. :mad:

VERY DISAPPOINTING especially when we've been high as kites all day long over advancing to round 2.

And the ticket rep not having balls to answer the emailer about the costs is LAME and should probably shouldn't have answered the note with that lame ass answer.

SoCalcaniac
05-03-2006, 06:04 PM
Mr. Socal was $200 off the guesstimate for our seats- boy, they really went for broke so to speak eh? He just paid the invoice on account manager, and we dodged a bullet so to speak, but I have issues with this marked increase in the rounds 3/4 pricing. And I know we didn't see that big a jump in 2002 for our seats even when we got to the finals.

I guess we all need to voice our displeasure- I'm drafting my email to Kyle Prairie cause it doesn't matter if I'm paying this invoice and we're not gonna have an issue with the payment- what has me mad, is that many people I know, will probably have to cut back or make changes to the 'plan' for rounds 3 and 4. :mad:

VERY DISAPPOINTING especially when we've been high as kites all day long over advancing to round 2.

And the ticket rep not having balls to answer the emailer about the costs is LAME and should probably shouldn't have answered the note with that lame ass answer.

nickgregory
05-03-2006, 06:05 PM
so I just checked my tickets from 02, season tickets in the mezzanine

Regular Season - $29
1st round - $38
2nd round - $45
3rd round - $50
SCF - $65

now that is a huge difference from what they escalated to now...

nickgregory
05-03-2006, 06:05 PM
so I just checked my tickets from 02, season tickets in the mezzanine

Regular Season - $29
1st round - $38
2nd round - $45
3rd round - $50
SCF - $65

now that is a huge difference from what they escalated to now...

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 06:09 PM
So.....tell me again....like I'm a two-year old. What was this whole CBA-lock-out...supposed to be good for the fans....keeping prices under control bullsh*t we swallowed hook line and sinker? Fat lotta good it appears to have done us. Apparently we were better off back in 2002...under the old CBA.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 06:09 PM
So.....tell me again....like I'm a two-year old. What was this whole CBA-lock-out...supposed to be good for the fans....keeping prices under control bullsh*t we swallowed hook line and sinker? Fat lotta good it appears to have done us. Apparently we were better off back in 2002...under the old CBA.

nccanes
05-03-2006, 06:11 PM
Yeah - that thought crossed my mind as well.

Maybe we're paying for Weight and Recchi. ;)

nccanes
05-03-2006, 06:11 PM
Yeah - that thought crossed my mind as well.

Maybe we're paying for Weight and Recchi. ;)

puck_it
05-03-2006, 06:11 PM
hope we dont post a profit. or ill be pissed

puck_it
05-03-2006, 06:11 PM
hope we dont post a profit. or ill be pissed

KRAZYCANE05
05-03-2006, 06:12 PM
I am so pissed its beyond words right now UGH!

KRAZYCANE05
05-03-2006, 06:12 PM
I am so pissed its beyond words right now UGH!

puck_it
05-03-2006, 06:24 PM
dont forget 7*8 =$56 in parking!

puck_it
05-03-2006, 06:24 PM
dont forget 7*8 =$56 in parking!

G-Vegas Caniac
05-03-2006, 06:26 PM
I know - you're right. HOWEVER I will have to PAY for rounds 3/4 regardless. And then if we don't advance ask for the money back --- and wait.

Sorry - probably need to keep this talk in that thread.

nccanes that does suck..I'm not a ticket holder so I didn't know you still had to pay even if we don't make it. No wonder your so pissed..lol :laugh:

G-Vegas Caniac
05-03-2006, 06:26 PM
I know - you're right. HOWEVER I will have to PAY for rounds 3/4 regardless. And then if we don't advance ask for the money back --- and wait.

Sorry - probably need to keep this talk in that thread.

nccanes that does suck..I'm not a ticket holder so I didn't know you still had to pay even if we don't make it. No wonder your so pissed..lol :laugh:

Wingman69
05-03-2006, 06:26 PM
Well I was having a good day till I read this thread and went to ch.com and checked my invoice. We have 3 seats(mine, my brother and the third for my mom and dad to alternate) in the upper level @ 244 per seat for the first 2 rounds. Round 3 and 4 price comes to 483 per seat. I just got finished talking to my dad and brother and it appears neither one of them will be going. It is going to be a tough decision for me to go by myself or stay home and watch on TV. I really was not expecting as big a jump as this.

Wingman69
05-03-2006, 06:26 PM
Well I was having a good day till I read this thread and went to ch.com and checked my invoice. We have 3 seats(mine, my brother and the third for my mom and dad to alternate) in the upper level @ 244 per seat for the first 2 rounds. Round 3 and 4 price comes to 483 per seat. I just got finished talking to my dad and brother and it appears neither one of them will be going. It is going to be a tough decision for me to go by myself or stay home and watch on TV. I really was not expecting as big a jump as this.

JaroFan
05-03-2006, 06:50 PM
Holy cow. They're doing their own scalping.

Seriously, they're making it so that people like us who would never scalp a ticket will have to in order to afford to go to a single game.

I cannot believe this. :crazy:

JaroFan
05-03-2006, 06:50 PM
Holy cow. They're doing their own scalping.

Seriously, they're making it so that people like us who would never scalp a ticket will have to in order to afford to go to a single game.

I cannot believe this. :crazy:

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 06:51 PM
dont forget 7*8 =$56 in parking!

It's only $6....so $48!

Or at least that's what mine is on my invoice.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 06:51 PM
dont forget 7*8 =$56 in parking!

It's only $6....so $48!

Or at least that's what mine is on my invoice.

Alicia
05-03-2006, 06:52 PM
Hmm...quite possibly will be watching rounds 3/4 from the comfort of home...

Alicia
05-03-2006, 06:52 PM
Hmm...quite possibly will be watching rounds 3/4 from the comfort of home...

SoCalcaniac
05-03-2006, 06:53 PM
dont forget 7*8 =$56 in parking!

It's only $6....so $48!

Or at least that's what mine is on my invoice.


Yeah ours too, we should feel comforted that the parking invoice remains the same, and that $10 mailing/processing 'fee' is still at a nice low price :roll/

SoCalcaniac
05-03-2006, 06:53 PM
dont forget 7*8 =$56 in parking!

It's only $6....so $48!

Or at least that's what mine is on my invoice.


Yeah ours too, we should feel comforted that the parking invoice remains the same, and that $10 mailing/processing 'fee' is still at a nice low price :roll/

KRAZYCANE05
05-03-2006, 06:54 PM
Hmm...quite possibly will be watching rounds 3/4 from the comfort of home...

Can we come over? because no way we can afford our 3 seats

KRAZYCANE05
05-03-2006, 06:54 PM
Hmm...quite possibly will be watching rounds 3/4 from the comfort of home...

Can we come over? because no way we can afford our 3 seats

Guyute
05-03-2006, 07:01 PM
I'm flabberghasted. utterly dumbfounded.

I Fully realize that 02 was Dirt Cheap. never would I in my life imagine I'd see SCF games for $35 a pop. But this year it would be $70 a pop? you're talking about $12 seats. come the F on.

true, it may not be Outrageous. But, this team was rebuilt as a mid-budget team, and they Full well know that this is NOT a market where people are used to (nor expecting) to pay exorbitant prices.

even at the Cheap prices of 02, once you get into round 3, you're making a profit. we all know these things, thanks to the open book policy and all the lock-out crap. I feel like I'm being hornswaggled. Or at worst, I feel PK is Hoping to hornswaggle me.

And That Pisses Me Off.

$960 is 5x what we paid during the season.
it's over 3x what the first 2 rounds were.

way to take a Cloud 9 type day and run it through the crapper.

PS at least I have a bigscreen tv and a big room. because it's a Serious consideration right now.
I think I may be just as happy having friends over for the games and giving this whole situation a big fat bird.

Guyute
05-03-2006, 07:01 PM
I'm flabberghasted. utterly dumbfounded.

I Fully realize that 02 was Dirt Cheap. never would I in my life imagine I'd see SCF games for $35 a pop. But this year it would be $70 a pop? you're talking about $12 seats. come the F on.

true, it may not be Outrageous. But, this team was rebuilt as a mid-budget team, and they Full well know that this is NOT a market where people are used to (nor expecting) to pay exorbitant prices.

even at the Cheap prices of 02, once you get into round 3, you're making a profit. we all know these things, thanks to the open book policy and all the lock-out crap. I feel like I'm being hornswaggled. Or at worst, I feel PK is Hoping to hornswaggle me.

And That Pisses Me Off.

$960 is 5x what we paid during the season.
it's over 3x what the first 2 rounds were.

way to take a Cloud 9 type day and run it through the crapper.

PS at least I have a bigscreen tv and a big room. because it's a Serious consideration right now.
I think I may be just as happy having friends over for the games and giving this whole situation a big fat bird.

G-Vegas Caniac
05-03-2006, 07:14 PM
Right on brother!! I have the big screen tv also but not enough benjamins to pay for these crazy ticket prices!! :eek2: I think it might be the house for me too, Unfortunately!

G-Vegas Caniac
05-03-2006, 07:14 PM
Right on brother!! I have the big screen tv also but not enough benjamins to pay for these crazy ticket prices!! :eek2: I think it might be the house for me too, Unfortunately!

IceSaber
05-03-2006, 07:15 PM
WOW....$2290.00 for two seats in 102 for rounds 3 and 4.
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

IceSaber
05-03-2006, 07:15 PM
WOW....$2290.00 for two seats in 102 for rounds 3 and 4.
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

apolinar
05-03-2006, 07:15 PM
I hate to say this but I had a feeling this was where the organization was going. It all plays into my "Disconnect with the fans" theory. This feeling was the reason I only got 2 seats for rounds 1 and 2 for my family instead of the 4 I got last time in 2002. Figured the pricing would be different this time around and wouldn't risk feeling guilty about not buying all four for the later rounds and having to pick and choose what family members got to go.

Oh well, I guess it will be the same as 2002... lots of fans from the other team in the house as the rounds get later, if we make it there.

apolinar
05-03-2006, 07:15 PM
I hate to say this but I had a feeling this was where the organization was going. It all plays into my "Disconnect with the fans" theory. This feeling was the reason I only got 2 seats for rounds 1 and 2 for my family instead of the 4 I got last time in 2002. Figured the pricing would be different this time around and wouldn't risk feeling guilty about not buying all four for the later rounds and having to pick and choose what family members got to go.

Oh well, I guess it will be the same as 2002... lots of fans from the other team in the house as the rounds get later, if we make it there.

KRAZYCANE05
05-03-2006, 07:16 PM
I believe I will send a link to this discussion thread to my ticket rep see what they think. What do you think?

KRAZYCANE05
05-03-2006, 07:16 PM
I believe I will send a link to this discussion thread to my ticket rep see what they think. What do you think?

nccanes
05-03-2006, 07:20 PM
Couldn't hurt KK.

I would think the best course of action would be for anyone that's considering not renewing their strips - send an email. That way it can't be dismissed as a bunch of grumpy forum-ites.

nccanes
05-03-2006, 07:20 PM
Couldn't hurt KK.

I would think the best course of action would be for anyone that's considering not renewing their strips - send an email. That way it can't be dismissed as a bunch of grumpy forum-ites.

Guyute
05-03-2006, 07:21 PM
I think unless your rep is Karen or Kyle.... it'll be deleted before it's even read.

Guyute
05-03-2006, 07:21 PM
I think unless your rep is Karen or Kyle.... it'll be deleted before it's even read.

Guyute
05-03-2006, 07:24 PM
I'm so sick right now I'm considering it. I don't know what Shell's thoughts are, or am I ready to make a decision right this second.

but we're going to have to make one within a couple of days...
right now I just want to take a bat to something, and I have a great big throbbing in my head.

I'm not even going to bother mailing my Joke of a rep. but I do believe I'll email someone. not that I expect anything to be done, the org has Obviously made their decision on how they want to handle this...

but they sure as Hell will know how I feel about it. It's my MO... and I'm sure it has our last name as Red on the list. I'd hate to disappoint.

Guyute
05-03-2006, 07:24 PM
I'm so sick right now I'm considering it. I don't know what Shell's thoughts are, or am I ready to make a decision right this second.

but we're going to have to make one within a couple of days...
right now I just want to take a bat to something, and I have a great big throbbing in my head.

I'm not even going to bother mailing my Joke of a rep. but I do believe I'll email someone. not that I expect anything to be done, the org has Obviously made their decision on how they want to handle this...

but they sure as Hell will know how I feel about it. It's my MO... and I'm sure it has our last name as Red on the list. I'd hate to disappoint.

kpmnc24
05-03-2006, 07:25 PM
The media and the Canes already know about a thread on the Canes scout board where people are venting about these inflated prices. It would not surprise me to see an article in tomorrow's paper about the price increases with fan reactions.

kpmnc24
05-03-2006, 07:25 PM
The media and the Canes already know about a thread on the Canes scout board where people are venting about these inflated prices. It would not surprise me to see an article in tomorrow's paper about the price increases with fan reactions.

StormChaserBH
05-03-2006, 07:29 PM
I believe I will send a link to this discussion thread to my ticket rep see what they think. What do you think?

The org (and the N&O) is already aware of a similar thread on FanHome, so couldn't hurt...

edit: ack, scooped by a couple minutes by kpmnc24 'cause I stopped mid-post to help my daughter with her homework.... and as I was working on y=3x with her, I was thinking hmmmm, how x and y could apply to this discussion... x = the previous round's price, ..... :)

StormChaserBH
05-03-2006, 07:29 PM
I believe I will send a link to this discussion thread to my ticket rep see what they think. What do you think?

The org (and the N&O) is already aware of a similar thread on FanHome, so couldn't hurt...

edit: ack, scooped by a couple minutes by kpmnc24 'cause I stopped mid-post to help my daughter with her homework.... and as I was working on y=3x with her, I was thinking hmmmm, how x and y could apply to this discussion... x = the previous round's price, ..... :)

ontheglass
05-03-2006, 07:37 PM
Ok, I bust my Rep and the screwed up front office and I get ripped on this forum. So now I'm going to get hell again and be on the unpopular side of this, but I'm looking forward to rds 3 and 4 and if we don't get there, I guess I'm buying next season's tix with the remaining $$. I know this will be an economic impact for many people, and it will be for me too, but the tix in 2002 increased each round. It's simple supply and demand and the tix will sell at any price. All I can say is tailgate your butts off before each game and avoid the $10+ beers inside.

I'm still out of town and won't see my invoice until Friday, but I'm looking forward to it and will probably buy 1 or 2 more seats if they are available near my current seats.

ontheglass
05-03-2006, 07:37 PM
Ok, I bust my Rep and the screwed up front office and I get ripped on this forum. So now I'm going to get hell again and be on the unpopular side of this, but I'm looking forward to rds 3 and 4 and if we don't get there, I guess I'm buying next season's tix with the remaining $$. I know this will be an economic impact for many people, and it will be for me too, but the tix in 2002 increased each round. It's simple supply and demand and the tix will sell at any price. All I can say is tailgate your butts off before each game and avoid the $10+ beers inside.

I'm still out of town and won't see my invoice until Friday, but I'm looking forward to it and will probably buy 1 or 2 more seats if they are available near my current seats.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 07:37 PM
I feel the tendency to defend the org a TINY bit here. Only because I don't think it's fair to call the upper goal zone seats $12 seats. I think they were undervalued at that price to begin with. I guess that's the price the org pays for having them cheap to begin with.

BUT, this all does reek just a tad of bait and switch, does it not?

My seats, and it looks like about all seats, only increased by $5 between the first and second round. Wow, that seems great! That's less of an increase than the last playoff run. Everyone's good and comfy with that.

Then they roll out the 100% increase for round 3 in the upper goal zone? Mine went up almost 40%. They double between rounds 2 and 4.

So, they got us comfy, got us to buy in and upgrade in a lot of cases and then BAM! The pulled out the heavy artillery.

Seems awfully.....I don't know....nasty.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 07:37 PM
I feel the tendency to defend the org a TINY bit here. Only because I don't think it's fair to call the upper goal zone seats $12 seats. I think they were undervalued at that price to begin with. I guess that's the price the org pays for having them cheap to begin with.

BUT, this all does reek just a tad of bait and switch, does it not?

My seats, and it looks like about all seats, only increased by $5 between the first and second round. Wow, that seems great! That's less of an increase than the last playoff run. Everyone's good and comfy with that.

Then they roll out the 100% increase for round 3 in the upper goal zone? Mine went up almost 40%. They double between rounds 2 and 4.

So, they got us comfy, got us to buy in and upgrade in a lot of cases and then BAM! The pulled out the heavy artillery.

Seems awfully.....I don't know....nasty.

puck_it
05-03-2006, 07:42 PM
I feel the tendency to defend the org a TINY bit here. Only because I don't think it's fair to call the upper goal zone seats $12 seats. I think they were undervalued at that price to begin with. I guess that's the price the org pays for having them cheap to begin with.


they sure as hell aint $70 seats for the SCF either. 50 for the SCF is reasonable.

puck_it
05-03-2006, 07:42 PM
I feel the tendency to defend the org a TINY bit here. Only because I don't think it's fair to call the upper goal zone seats $12 seats. I think they were undervalued at that price to begin with. I guess that's the price the org pays for having them cheap to begin with.


they sure as hell aint $70 seats for the SCF either. 50 for the SCF is reasonable.

kpmnc24
05-03-2006, 07:42 PM
It seems like bait and switch to me too.

I can almost guarantee that their first reponse will be to compare these new prices to Toronto, Detroit, Ottawa, and so on.

kpmnc24
05-03-2006, 07:42 PM
It seems like bait and switch to me too.

I can almost guarantee that their first reponse will be to compare these new prices to Toronto, Detroit, Ottawa, and so on.

goalie33
05-03-2006, 07:43 PM
So, who wants to call my utterly adorable friend and tell her I'll be going to Rounds 3 & 4 by myself?

I knew I was going to be taking a hit and prepared my parents for the possibility of needing a loan, but they're gonna laugh in my face if I ask for enough to get both seats.

All I know is that I hope ol' Pete likes a building full of Sens fans.

goalie33
05-03-2006, 07:43 PM
So, who wants to call my utterly adorable friend and tell her I'll be going to Rounds 3 & 4 by myself?

I knew I was going to be taking a hit and prepared my parents for the possibility of needing a loan, but they're gonna laugh in my face if I ask for enough to get both seats.

All I know is that I hope ol' Pete likes a building full of Sens fans.

puck_it
05-03-2006, 07:43 PM
It seems like bait and switch to me too.

I can almost guarantee that their first reponse will be to compare these new prices to Toronto, Detroit, Ottawa, and so on.

we can compare that and then compare the market. SUPPLY AND DEMAND YO.

puck_it
05-03-2006, 07:43 PM
It seems like bait and switch to me too.

I can almost guarantee that their first reponse will be to compare these new prices to Toronto, Detroit, Ottawa, and so on.

we can compare that and then compare the market. SUPPLY AND DEMAND YO.

G-Vegas Caniac
05-03-2006, 07:51 PM
All I have to say about all of this is that I wish I was rich and I didn't care what the prices are! Or at least get a hell of a raise at work.. :laugh:

G-Vegas Caniac
05-03-2006, 07:51 PM
All I have to say about all of this is that I wish I was rich and I didn't care what the prices are! Or at least get a hell of a raise at work.. :laugh:

Guyute
05-03-2006, 07:52 PM
of Course your Rep will drop the company line of "well tickets in xxxxxxx are 25% More. you're still getting a bargain."

guess what. They can have them then. your home ice just turned to a visitors building, because if you think there's going to be a raging CANIAC crowd there... I think you'll be surprised.

though really, I doubt Anyone will be there. Upper Goal Zone walkups are paying $40 already, in the 2nd round. Can you imagine what they'll be for rd 4? how many people you think are going to pay $155 for a walkup 314 ticket? Good effing luck.

PS- the inlaws who make a BOATLOAD more money than we do, and sit in 308, already said no way. keep your tickets. certainly where I'm leaning. we've put so damn much money into this team. maybe it's time to put it towards other things instead.

talk about pricing your support right out of the building. props guys. very well done.

Guyute
05-03-2006, 07:52 PM
of Course your Rep will drop the company line of "well tickets in xxxxxxx are 25% More. you're still getting a bargain."

guess what. They can have them then. your home ice just turned to a visitors building, because if you think there's going to be a raging CANIAC crowd there... I think you'll be surprised.

though really, I doubt Anyone will be there. Upper Goal Zone walkups are paying $40 already, in the 2nd round. Can you imagine what they'll be for rd 4? how many people you think are going to pay $155 for a walkup 314 ticket? Good effing luck.

PS- the inlaws who make a BOATLOAD more money than we do, and sit in 308, already said no way. keep your tickets. certainly where I'm leaning. we've put so damn much money into this team. maybe it's time to put it towards other things instead.

talk about pricing your support right out of the building. props guys. very well done.

Shell
05-03-2006, 07:54 PM
I am just SICK SICK SICK over this. This is ridiculous to some new degree. I can't even formulate the words right now.

Shell
05-03-2006, 07:54 PM
I am just SICK SICK SICK over this. This is ridiculous to some new degree. I can't even formulate the words right now.

Canesluver
05-03-2006, 07:54 PM
I guess I'm just more Zen like. I'll just figure out how to pay for it later. I can probably pick up a couple extra free-lance jobs over the summer. <shrug>

Canesluver
05-03-2006, 07:54 PM
I guess I'm just more Zen like. I'll just figure out how to pay for it later. I can probably pick up a couple extra free-lance jobs over the summer. <shrug>

nccanes
05-03-2006, 08:00 PM
Eventually I have to look at the big picture and exactly what I can and can't afford.

I can't afford to pay 3 times what I did for Round 1 in Round 4. No way.

nccanes
05-03-2006, 08:00 PM
Eventually I have to look at the big picture and exactly what I can and can't afford.

I can't afford to pay 3 times what I did for Round 1 in Round 4. No way.

Alicia
05-03-2006, 08:00 PM
I guess I'm just more Zen like. I'll just figure out how to pay for it later. I can probably pick up a couple extra free-lance jobs over the summer. <shrug>

Everyone doesn't have that option, unfortunately. :sad: Once-a-month disability checks only go so far...

Alicia
05-03-2006, 08:00 PM
I guess I'm just more Zen like. I'll just figure out how to pay for it later. I can probably pick up a couple extra free-lance jobs over the summer. <shrug>

Everyone doesn't have that option, unfortunately. :sad: Once-a-month disability checks only go so far...

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 08:06 PM
I guess I'm just more Zen like. I'll just figure out how to pay for it later. I can probably pick up a couple extra free-lance jobs over the summer. <shrug>

That's the way I'm looking at it for me. This isn't going to price me out of the building.

But I can sure see where everyone else is coming from. And it just seems like they've really hit the gas way too fast here.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 08:06 PM
I guess I'm just more Zen like. I'll just figure out how to pay for it later. I can probably pick up a couple extra free-lance jobs over the summer. <shrug>

That's the way I'm looking at it for me. This isn't going to price me out of the building.

But I can sure see where everyone else is coming from. And it just seems like they've really hit the gas way too fast here.

Canesluver
05-03-2006, 08:10 PM
Where are you getting the "3X" increase from, NCC? My invoice for Rounds 3/4 is almost exactly a 2X increase over Rounds 1/2, which doesn't really seem unreasonable to me. Playoffs are what helps a team get in the black.

Canesluver
05-03-2006, 08:10 PM
Where are you getting the "3X" increase from, NCC? My invoice for Rounds 3/4 is almost exactly a 2X increase over Rounds 1/2, which doesn't really seem unreasonable to me. Playoffs are what helps a team get in the black.

Guyute
05-03-2006, 08:19 PM
rounds 1 & 2 were $290 for us.
rounds 3 & 4 will be $970 for us.
there's 3x+.

and I'm not even going to get involved (at least not right now) with the appropriatness of this hike so the team can get into the black. at these prices they're Well beyond that. remember how we hoped the Obscene Round 2 walkup tickets were priced that way so that they wouldn't do it to the STH's later? guess what.

Guyute
05-03-2006, 08:19 PM
rounds 1 & 2 were $290 for us.
rounds 3 & 4 will be $970 for us.
there's 3x+.

and I'm not even going to get involved (at least not right now) with the appropriatness of this hike so the team can get into the black. at these prices they're Well beyond that. remember how we hoped the Obscene Round 2 walkup tickets were priced that way so that they wouldn't do it to the STH's later? guess what.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 08:21 PM
Where are you getting the "3X" increase from, NCC? My invoice for Rounds 3/4 is almost exactly a 2X increase over Rounds 1/2, which doesn't really seem unreasonable to me. Playoffs are what helps a team get in the black.

I think it's her mezzanine seats she's referring to. At least I know those trippled.

No surprise to me, the upper level folks are the ones really getting screwed. I feel like I'm getting a down-right bargain because we moved downstairs and I don't have nearly the increase my upper level seats would have had.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 08:21 PM
Where are you getting the "3X" increase from, NCC? My invoice for Rounds 3/4 is almost exactly a 2X increase over Rounds 1/2, which doesn't really seem unreasonable to me. Playoffs are what helps a team get in the black.

I think it's her mezzanine seats she's referring to. At least I know those trippled.

No surprise to me, the upper level folks are the ones really getting screwed. I feel like I'm getting a down-right bargain because we moved downstairs and I don't have nearly the increase my upper level seats would have had.

sandstorm
05-03-2006, 08:21 PM
Maybe (hopefully!) the RBCC will open up for the away games like they did during 2002. I couldn't afford the playoff games then and I certainly can't afford them this year. Some friends and family went to all of those "away" games at the RBCC and we had a ball. Tons of people showed up and it was free. Even the parking!

sandstorm
05-03-2006, 08:21 PM
Maybe (hopefully!) the RBCC will open up for the away games like they did during 2002. I couldn't afford the playoff games then and I certainly can't afford them this year. Some friends and family went to all of those "away" games at the RBCC and we had a ball. Tons of people showed up and it was free. Even the parking!

nccanes
05-03-2006, 08:25 PM
Where are you getting the "3X" increase from, NCC? My invoice for Rounds 3/4 is almost exactly a 2X increase over Rounds 1/2, which doesn't really seem unreasonable to me. Playoffs are what helps a team get in the black.

I think it's her mezzanine seats she's referring to. At least I know those trippled.

No surprise to me, the upper level folks are the ones really getting screwed. I feel like I'm getting a down-right bargain because we moved downstairs and I don't have nearly the increase my upper level seats would have had.

Yes SHC - that's where it triples. For the 3rd round, my LL South (Canes shoot twice) seats are a "whopping" $15 more than my UL Mezzanine seats. That's less of a jump than in the regular season. Yeah - that makes sense. :roll:

nccanes
05-03-2006, 08:25 PM
Where are you getting the "3X" increase from, NCC? My invoice for Rounds 3/4 is almost exactly a 2X increase over Rounds 1/2, which doesn't really seem unreasonable to me. Playoffs are what helps a team get in the black.

I think it's her mezzanine seats she's referring to. At least I know those trippled.

No surprise to me, the upper level folks are the ones really getting screwed. I feel like I'm getting a down-right bargain because we moved downstairs and I don't have nearly the increase my upper level seats would have had.

Yes SHC - that's where it triples. For the 3rd round, my LL South (Canes shoot twice) seats are a "whopping" $15 more than my UL Mezzanine seats. That's less of a jump than in the regular season. Yeah - that makes sense. :roll:

VandyCane
05-03-2006, 08:25 PM
I keep going back and forth on this one. The realistic part of me looks at my invoice and knows that I really can't afford it. The sports crazed fan in me compares it to the price of Super Bowl tickets or Final Four and it doesn't seem that out of line. I guess we will have to have a serious discussion in our house as to what we can do! :sad:

Edit: Those mezzanine increases really do seem out of line. For rounds 1&2 we debated between keeping our seats in 108 or moving up to mezzanine. We ended up staying in 108 and it seems to have been the better choice.

VandyCane
05-03-2006, 08:25 PM
I keep going back and forth on this one. The realistic part of me looks at my invoice and knows that I really can't afford it. The sports crazed fan in me compares it to the price of Super Bowl tickets or Final Four and it doesn't seem that out of line. I guess we will have to have a serious discussion in our house as to what we can do! :sad:

Edit: Those mezzanine increases really do seem out of line. For rounds 1&2 we debated between keeping our seats in 108 or moving up to mezzanine. We ended up staying in 108 and it seems to have been the better choice.

Canesluver
05-03-2006, 08:27 PM
I think they've realized that they under-valued their ticket prices 4 years ago. They were way too cheap then. I mean--this is like the Super Bowl or World Series-- this is a premium event, and should be pricd accordingly. I want the team to make boatloads of money.

Canesluver
05-03-2006, 08:27 PM
I think they've realized that they under-valued their ticket prices 4 years ago. They were way too cheap then. I mean--this is like the Super Bowl or World Series-- this is a premium event, and should be pricd accordingly. I want the team to make boatloads of money.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 08:29 PM
One thing to think of.....this could be the last chance of your lifetime to see the Stanley Cup Finals. Much less a win for the home team. I know we got there just 4 years ago but....how likely is it really to happen again? And, if we don't make it, you saved money!

That makes the amount I can't afford go down easier for me, I guess. I know it won't help a lot of others. And for many others can't afford is a lot more literal for them than it is for me.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 08:29 PM
One thing to think of.....this could be the last chance of your lifetime to see the Stanley Cup Finals. Much less a win for the home team. I know we got there just 4 years ago but....how likely is it really to happen again? And, if we don't make it, you saved money!

That makes the amount I can't afford go down easier for me, I guess. I know it won't help a lot of others. And for many others can't afford is a lot more literal for them than it is for me.

apolinar
05-03-2006, 08:30 PM
So who's going to come up with an In-Game protest about this? You hate to affect the team's players that had nothing to do with this decision. But many of the people I see writing here are saying round 2 will be their last round to attend. How do you wanna make your voice known in the first game? Sometimes silence is golden.

apolinar
05-03-2006, 08:30 PM
So who's going to come up with an In-Game protest about this? You hate to affect the team's players that had nothing to do with this decision. But many of the people I see writing here are saying round 2 will be their last round to attend. How do you wanna make your voice known in the first game? Sometimes silence is golden.

Guyute
05-03-2006, 08:33 PM
One thing to think of.....this could be the last chance of your lifetime to see the Stanley Cup Finals. Much less a win for the home team. I know we got there just 4 years ago but....how likely is it really to happen again? And, if we don't make it, you saved money!


Considering I have been following hockey basically my entire life, I'm almost 33, and the only SCF games I've been to were here in 02, I'm WELL aware of the rarity.

That doesn't change the fact that too much is simply too much.
Perhaps we should sell our child, then it would be easier to afford.. /roll.

Guyute
05-03-2006, 08:33 PM
One thing to think of.....this could be the last chance of your lifetime to see the Stanley Cup Finals. Much less a win for the home team. I know we got there just 4 years ago but....how likely is it really to happen again? And, if we don't make it, you saved money!


Considering I have been following hockey basically my entire life, I'm almost 33, and the only SCF games I've been to were here in 02, I'm WELL aware of the rarity.

That doesn't change the fact that too much is simply too much.
Perhaps we should sell our child, then it would be easier to afford.. /roll.

Shell
05-03-2006, 08:34 PM
I agree that I paid way too little for my Stanley Cup Finals tickets in 2002.

I agree that the $10.29 section (well, 10.29 for walkups, we have to pay $12 for them as season ticket holders) is Way cheap.
I agree the team should make money.

However, if they wanted to make up for 4 years ago they should have done it openly and gradually. Don't jack the prices up to double or triple what it was yesterday and then just wordlessly send me a bill and want the money in a week and a half. I don't like the execution at all.

Shell
05-03-2006, 08:34 PM
I agree that I paid way too little for my Stanley Cup Finals tickets in 2002.

I agree that the $10.29 section (well, 10.29 for walkups, we have to pay $12 for them as season ticket holders) is Way cheap.
I agree the team should make money.

However, if they wanted to make up for 4 years ago they should have done it openly and gradually. Don't jack the prices up to double or triple what it was yesterday and then just wordlessly send me a bill and want the money in a week and a half. I don't like the execution at all.

nccanes
05-03-2006, 08:35 PM
I think they've realized that they under-valued their ticket prices 4 years ago. They were way too cheap then. I mean--this is like the Super Bowl or World Series-- this is a premium event, and should be pricd accordingly. I want the team to make boatloads of money.

Well I hope they get it from whoever will be buying some of my round 3/4 seats. Which means it'll be from a bandwagoner or a corporation or a fan of the other team.

As far as your comparisons - they don't work because the NHL (and Raleigh as a host city) are way different. I might spend $500 on a Super Bowl game, but it's 1 game period. People don't go to rounds and rounds of football games - there may not even be 1 home game during the playoffs. So going all out for a Super Bowl game is a 1 shot deal.

I guess it's fair to compare it to baseball - I have no idea what their prices are.

It's as simple as this for me. They made major changes in both their pricing structure and approach this time around. There is no reason that anyone who was on board in '02 (or heard about it) could have expected a nearly doubling between rounds 2 and 3 - with another major jump between 3 and 4.

Perhaps they knew what the risk was, perhaps they don't care that the joe blow fans would get forced out. It still comes across as a kick in the gut.

Will the backlash be a big deal - or will it blow over. Time will tell.

I'll just save my comments about karma and the 3rd round revenue to myself. :angel:

But I'd brace for some ugly articles in the N/O this week while we wait for Game 1. And this time - I think they deserve them.

AP - I wouldn't go to a playoff game if I didn't plan to be there pulling for the guys on the ice. But my suspicion is that there will be some ugly stuff in the media (papers, talk radio, etc) about it. And that's too bad for the guys to see/hear.

And if the Nat'l media gets a hold of it (or maybe they don't care) - it could be a black eye for us (again). Which points to Shell's issue with execution. They knew what the risk was - and they took it. Good luck to them, huh?

nccanes
05-03-2006, 08:35 PM
I think they've realized that they under-valued their ticket prices 4 years ago. They were way too cheap then. I mean--this is like the Super Bowl or World Series-- this is a premium event, and should be pricd accordingly. I want the team to make boatloads of money.

Well I hope they get it from whoever will be buying some of my round 3/4 seats. Which means it'll be from a bandwagoner or a corporation or a fan of the other team.

As far as your comparisons - they don't work because the NHL (and Raleigh as a host city) are way different. I might spend $500 on a Super Bowl game, but it's 1 game period. People don't go to rounds and rounds of football games - there may not even be 1 home game during the playoffs. So going all out for a Super Bowl game is a 1 shot deal.

I guess it's fair to compare it to baseball - I have no idea what their prices are.

It's as simple as this for me. They made major changes in both their pricing structure and approach this time around. There is no reason that anyone who was on board in '02 (or heard about it) could have expected a nearly doubling between rounds 2 and 3 - with another major jump between 3 and 4.

Perhaps they knew what the risk was, perhaps they don't care that the joe blow fans would get forced out. It still comes across as a kick in the gut.

Will the backlash be a big deal - or will it blow over. Time will tell.

I'll just save my comments about karma and the 3rd round revenue to myself. :angel:

But I'd brace for some ugly articles in the N/O this week while we wait for Game 1. And this time - I think they deserve them.

AP - I wouldn't go to a playoff game if I didn't plan to be there pulling for the guys on the ice. But my suspicion is that there will be some ugly stuff in the media (papers, talk radio, etc) about it. And that's too bad for the guys to see/hear.

And if the Nat'l media gets a hold of it (or maybe they don't care) - it could be a black eye for us (again). Which points to Shell's issue with execution. They knew what the risk was - and they took it. Good luck to them, huh?

Alicia
05-03-2006, 08:39 PM
One thing to think of.....this could be the last chance of your lifetime to see the Stanley Cup Finals.

Clearly my motivation to attend the playoffs to begin with, but I already had to give up my regular LL seats for more affordable UL seating, now...I just can't see it happening.

Alicia
05-03-2006, 08:39 PM
One thing to think of.....this could be the last chance of your lifetime to see the Stanley Cup Finals.

Clearly my motivation to attend the playoffs to begin with, but I already had to give up my regular LL seats for more affordable UL seating, now...I just can't see it happening.

ontheglass
05-03-2006, 08:48 PM
I think they've realized that they under-valued their ticket prices 4 years ago. They were way too cheap then. I mean--this is like the Super Bowl or World Series-- this is a premium event, and should be pricd accordingly. I want the team to make boatloads of money.

CL - you're right. It's a rarity to see the SCF and I hope to see it again this year. What were your memories worth from 2002? Do you remember how much the ticket prices went up or do you remember "the SCF run?" In two or three years from now, you'll remember "the SCF run", not the ticket prices. I truly hate this org's sales and PR Depts, but my committment is with the team and not the front office bozos.

Our choices are (1) we can have a top-tier, playoff team each year and yes, pay the prices for the playoff seats, or (2) have a losing franchise with the rumor of the "WinneCanes" hovering every year and ***** about it.

Again, I'm not loaded, but the chance of seeing the cup lifted in Carolina is worth whatever it is.

ontheglass
05-03-2006, 08:48 PM
I think they've realized that they under-valued their ticket prices 4 years ago. They were way too cheap then. I mean--this is like the Super Bowl or World Series-- this is a premium event, and should be pricd accordingly. I want the team to make boatloads of money.

CL - you're right. It's a rarity to see the SCF and I hope to see it again this year. What were your memories worth from 2002? Do you remember how much the ticket prices went up or do you remember "the SCF run?" In two or three years from now, you'll remember "the SCF run", not the ticket prices. I truly hate this org's sales and PR Depts, but my committment is with the team and not the front office bozos.

Our choices are (1) we can have a top-tier, playoff team each year and yes, pay the prices for the playoff seats, or (2) have a losing franchise with the rumor of the "WinneCanes" hovering every year and ***** about it.

Again, I'm not loaded, but the chance of seeing the cup lifted in Carolina is worth whatever it is.

Canesluver
05-03-2006, 08:51 PM
So who's going to come up with an In-Game protest about this? You hate to affect the team's players that had nothing to do with this decision. But many of the people I see writing here are saying round 2 will be their last round to attend. How do you wanna make your voice known in the first game? Sometimes silence is golden.

That would be entirely inappropriate, and would spoil the event

Canesluver
05-03-2006, 08:51 PM
So who's going to come up with an In-Game protest about this? You hate to affect the team's players that had nothing to do with this decision. But many of the people I see writing here are saying round 2 will be their last round to attend. How do you wanna make your voice known in the first game? Sometimes silence is golden.

That would be entirely inappropriate, and would spoil the event

nccanes
05-03-2006, 08:56 PM
Guess the old adage - money doesn't grow on trees is appropriate here.

I've read over the FAQ - and I don't see an opportunity to downgrade my seats in an attempt to save some money. I guess I'll have to ask my rep.

The irony is - if the Canes don't advance (just like 8 1st round teams + non playoff teams won't) - they don't collect dime #1 of these high prices. Is the trade off in this PR deal really worth it?

nccanes
05-03-2006, 08:56 PM
Guess the old adage - money doesn't grow on trees is appropriate here.

I've read over the FAQ - and I don't see an opportunity to downgrade my seats in an attempt to save some money. I guess I'll have to ask my rep.

The irony is - if the Canes don't advance (just like 8 1st round teams + non playoff teams won't) - they don't collect dime #1 of these high prices. Is the trade off in this PR deal really worth it?

StormChaserBH
05-03-2006, 08:58 PM
For me it's not really about whether I pay this invoice or not; it's do I pay the one afterwards that will come in July after paying the one last month and then tightening the belt and sucking it up for this one that's way more than expected even allowing for raises per round. The SCF is that once in a lifetime event, I'll find a way, so they may hit the jackpot with me now, but will I then be able to afford to buy next year's seats?

StormChaserBH
05-03-2006, 08:58 PM
For me it's not really about whether I pay this invoice or not; it's do I pay the one afterwards that will come in July after paying the one last month and then tightening the belt and sucking it up for this one that's way more than expected even allowing for raises per round. The SCF is that once in a lifetime event, I'll find a way, so they may hit the jackpot with me now, but will I then be able to afford to buy next year's seats?

Guyute
05-03-2006, 09:00 PM
the PR factor is an extremely good point. they could be SMASHING a lot of very fragile fans here, only a year removed from a lockout, which was barely removed from 2 Horrible years. I honestly don't get this move.
They could've doubled my tickets and it would've been what I was expecting. they got greedy.

what's stupid though, is if we (as in Shell/Me) pay for 3 & 4, and let it ride for a plan the following year... we'd almost be able to afford upgrading to a Full season. or, stay with the same plan, and have the next 3 Years paid off. /roll. :lol:
(as if the next 3 years are a priority at this point)

Guyute
05-03-2006, 09:00 PM
the PR factor is an extremely good point. they could be SMASHING a lot of very fragile fans here, only a year removed from a lockout, which was barely removed from 2 Horrible years. I honestly don't get this move.
They could've doubled my tickets and it would've been what I was expecting. they got greedy.

what's stupid though, is if we (as in Shell/Me) pay for 3 & 4, and let it ride for a plan the following year... we'd almost be able to afford upgrading to a Full season. or, stay with the same plan, and have the next 3 Years paid off. /roll. :lol:
(as if the next 3 years are a priority at this point)

apolinar
05-03-2006, 09:02 PM
So who's going to come up with an In-Game protest about this? You hate to affect the team's players that had nothing to do with this decision. But many of the people I see writing here are saying round 2 will be their last round to attend. How do you wanna make your voice known in the first game? Sometimes silence is golden.

That would be entirely inappropriate, and would spoil the event

Business office did plenty to spoil the event already IMO. We should be talking about the playoffs in here, not how we all feel price gouged, which seems to be the hot topic in every canes bulletin board out there.

I'm not saying canes fans should not cheer loud. I'm just saying something in-game should be done, I'm just not good enough to come up with it. Like people holding up dollar bills to Keith Primeau his first game back. 10 seconds of silence then all out cheering. I really don't know, that's why I'm wondering if suggestions are out there. I guess the best protest is what people are already talking about... not buying rounds 3 and 4.

I guess they aren't selling enough 50 dollar robes yet.

apolinar
05-03-2006, 09:02 PM
So who's going to come up with an In-Game protest about this? You hate to affect the team's players that had nothing to do with this decision. But many of the people I see writing here are saying round 2 will be their last round to attend. How do you wanna make your voice known in the first game? Sometimes silence is golden.

That would be entirely inappropriate, and would spoil the event

Business office did plenty to spoil the event already IMO. We should be talking about the playoffs in here, not how we all feel price gouged, which seems to be the hot topic in every canes bulletin board out there.

I'm not saying canes fans should not cheer loud. I'm just saying something in-game should be done, I'm just not good enough to come up with it. Like people holding up dollar bills to Keith Primeau his first game back. 10 seconds of silence then all out cheering. I really don't know, that's why I'm wondering if suggestions are out there. I guess the best protest is what people are already talking about... not buying rounds 3 and 4.

I guess they aren't selling enough 50 dollar robes yet.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 09:09 PM
Man. Just saw a highlights package on us on OLN. I realized I just don't care what they asked of me, I'd pay it. I'd max out every card I have, I'd increase my limit, I'd sell a freakin' kidney if I had to. This team this year is special and I'm not going to miss it. No matter what it costs me.

I guess I'm just the kind of sucker that spoils the boycotts for everyone else. :lol:


It's still a sh*tty way for them to do it, IMO.

And can I just say how sureal it is for me to be on the side of defending the org, even just the tiny little bit that I am, and E on the other side? It's frustrating to realize I don't have the web searching skills she does to now pull some article or price list from some other team out of the air that justifies the whole thing. It's wholly unfair, really. :lol: ;)

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 09:09 PM
Man. Just saw a highlights package on us on OLN. I realized I just don't care what they asked of me, I'd pay it. I'd max out every card I have, I'd increase my limit, I'd sell a freakin' kidney if I had to. This team this year is special and I'm not going to miss it. No matter what it costs me.

I guess I'm just the kind of sucker that spoils the boycotts for everyone else. :lol:


It's still a sh*tty way for them to do it, IMO.

And can I just say how sureal it is for me to be on the side of defending the org, even just the tiny little bit that I am, and E on the other side? It's frustrating to realize I don't have the web searching skills she does to now pull some article or price list from some other team out of the air that justifies the whole thing. It's wholly unfair, really. :lol: ;)

nccanes
05-03-2006, 09:10 PM
People could make some good signs - but they'd never make it on the Jumbotron or anything.

Just noticed this kernel (and yes it was available before I ordered the strips, so it's my fault)

What happens with leftover playoff money from unplayed games?

Any money left over from unplayed games will automatically roll into the 2006-2007 season, guaranteeing your seat location and early bird discount. If you would like a refund, a written request must be received by our box office. Refunds will be given via check, please allow 4-6 weeks for delivery. All accounts requesting a refund will forgo their seating priority and early bird discount.



Interesting that anyone that put down $100 bucks for next years seats by a certain date got the early bird discount (even if they didn't buy PO tickets), but unless we leave every GD leftover dime in with them, we lose it.

Wonder how long it will take to refund the overages (should they not advance) - because as guyute pointed out - it'll be more than what I owe them for next year.

My apologies for being such a pill about this - but I guess people highly annoyed can just avoid the thread. I guess we'll have about a week to make all these decisions.

nccanes
05-03-2006, 09:10 PM
People could make some good signs - but they'd never make it on the Jumbotron or anything.

Just noticed this kernel (and yes it was available before I ordered the strips, so it's my fault)

What happens with leftover playoff money from unplayed games?

Any money left over from unplayed games will automatically roll into the 2006-2007 season, guaranteeing your seat location and early bird discount. If you would like a refund, a written request must be received by our box office. Refunds will be given via check, please allow 4-6 weeks for delivery. All accounts requesting a refund will forgo their seating priority and early bird discount.



Interesting that anyone that put down $100 bucks for next years seats by a certain date got the early bird discount (even if they didn't buy PO tickets), but unless we leave every GD leftover dime in with them, we lose it.

Wonder how long it will take to refund the overages (should they not advance) - because as guyute pointed out - it'll be more than what I owe them for next year.

My apologies for being such a pill about this - but I guess people highly annoyed can just avoid the thread. I guess we'll have about a week to make all these decisions.

Canesluver
05-03-2006, 09:15 PM
You have to remember that a large number of people sitting in the arena will not have purchased their tickets in strips, and would be oblivious to whatever kind of "protest" was staged. They'd wonder what all the negativity was all about.

Staging a protest in the arena just doesn't seems like an approriate time. If you don't like the price of the tickets, don't buy any. Write letters. Talk to your sales rep. That seems more appropriate to me.

Canesluver
05-03-2006, 09:15 PM
You have to remember that a large number of people sitting in the arena will not have purchased their tickets in strips, and would be oblivious to whatever kind of "protest" was staged. They'd wonder what all the negativity was all about.

Staging a protest in the arena just doesn't seems like an approriate time. If you don't like the price of the tickets, don't buy any. Write letters. Talk to your sales rep. That seems more appropriate to me.

Shell
05-03-2006, 09:16 PM
The irony is - if the Canes don't advance (just like 8 1st round teams + non playoff teams won't) - they don't collect dime #1 of these high prices. Is the trade off in this PR deal really worth it?

are you kidding?? Just think of the interest they get on all of our money while we wait for a quasi "refund" in a few months? I lose all priority if I want it back??? *argh*

Shell
05-03-2006, 09:16 PM
The irony is - if the Canes don't advance (just like 8 1st round teams + non playoff teams won't) - they don't collect dime #1 of these high prices. Is the trade off in this PR deal really worth it?

are you kidding?? Just think of the interest they get on all of our money while we wait for a quasi "refund" in a few months? I lose all priority if I want it back??? *argh*

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 09:18 PM
Interesting that anyone that put down $100 bucks for next years seats by a certain date got the early bird discount (even if they didn't buy PO tickets), but unless we leave every GD leftover dime in with them, we lose it.



I cannot imagine that they wouldn't give you back all but the $100 required of everyone else and allow you to retain your seating priority and the early bird discount.

I guess they might make you leave in $250 or whatever the deposit is now. Still, I can't imagine they wouldn't give a partial refund and still allow you to retain the discount.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 09:18 PM
Interesting that anyone that put down $100 bucks for next years seats by a certain date got the early bird discount (even if they didn't buy PO tickets), but unless we leave every GD leftover dime in with them, we lose it.



I cannot imagine that they wouldn't give you back all but the $100 required of everyone else and allow you to retain your seating priority and the early bird discount.

I guess they might make you leave in $250 or whatever the deposit is now. Still, I can't imagine they wouldn't give a partial refund and still allow you to retain the discount.

Guyute
05-03-2006, 09:18 PM
right. really can't get a refund if you've been a holder for years and want to keep that priority.

sorry, but it needs to be said-- my a-hole is starting to hurt.

Guyute
05-03-2006, 09:18 PM
right. really can't get a refund if you've been a holder for years and want to keep that priority.

sorry, but it needs to be said-- my a-hole is starting to hurt.

VandyCane
05-03-2006, 09:20 PM
I see what you are quoting E, but I bet you could get a partial refund and not lose your seniority. My guess would be the amount you need for the "playoff priority" deposit (currently $250). I mean during the lockout we got a "refund" but kept the $50/seat deposit so that we could keep our seniority. I really can't imagine they would keep, in essence, two years worth of payments in your account.

VandyCane
05-03-2006, 09:20 PM
I see what you are quoting E, but I bet you could get a partial refund and not lose your seniority. My guess would be the amount you need for the "playoff priority" deposit (currently $250). I mean during the lockout we got a "refund" but kept the $50/seat deposit so that we could keep our seniority. I really can't imagine they would keep, in essence, two years worth of payments in your account.

nccanes
05-03-2006, 09:21 PM
Interesting that anyone that put down $100 bucks for next years seats by a certain date got the early bird discount (even if they didn't buy PO tickets), but unless we leave every GD leftover dime in with them, we lose it.



I cannot imagine that they wouldn't give you back all but the $100 required of everyone else and allow you to retain your seating priority and the early bird discount.

I guess they might make you leave in $250 or whatever the deposit is now. Still, I can't imagine they wouldn't give a partial refund and still allow you to retain the discount.

I agree - but that's what it says. Perhaps it's poorly worded because it just talks about "refunds".

Maybe I'll go to bed and wake up tomorrow either a) a lottery winner, b) with a different perspective, or c) just too stupid to care

nccanes
05-03-2006, 09:21 PM
Interesting that anyone that put down $100 bucks for next years seats by a certain date got the early bird discount (even if they didn't buy PO tickets), but unless we leave every GD leftover dime in with them, we lose it.



I cannot imagine that they wouldn't give you back all but the $100 required of everyone else and allow you to retain your seating priority and the early bird discount.

I guess they might make you leave in $250 or whatever the deposit is now. Still, I can't imagine they wouldn't give a partial refund and still allow you to retain the discount.

I agree - but that's what it says. Perhaps it's poorly worded because it just talks about "refunds".

Maybe I'll go to bed and wake up tomorrow either a) a lottery winner, b) with a different perspective, or c) just too stupid to care

apolinar
05-03-2006, 09:22 PM
Plus if a STH drops rounds 3 and 4, a walk-up pays more for the seat.

apolinar
05-03-2006, 09:22 PM
Plus if a STH drops rounds 3 and 4, a walk-up pays more for the seat.

Guyute
05-03-2006, 09:22 PM
yeah, too stoopid to care is my only hope I think. god speed to the rest of you. ;)

Guyute
05-03-2006, 09:22 PM
yeah, too stoopid to care is my only hope I think. god speed to the rest of you. ;)

nickgregory
05-03-2006, 09:23 PM
while the increase was expected for me (though higher than I could have guessed), the thing that bothers me the most, is (and for a second I am looking at this in my finances way and not my desire for the success of this team), is if they lose in the 2nd round, the organization will them have enough money from my 3rd and 4th round payments, that when added to the money they still have from the lockout season, to pay for almost the entire season of season tickets next year. And they will have this money in May for a season that starts in October (and dont forget they have had the lock out money for years)

Add to that, that in my opinion, the organization knew when the playoffs started this was the intent and didnt publish it them to avoid the backlash early.

There is no doubt in my mind that I will pay this year, and that by doing so it will hurt me in the wallet, but this action really puts me in a position where I need to reconsider my extracurricular funding. I have said for a long time that this franchise has tickets that are among the cheapest in the league, and that has contributed to one of the things that makes this franchise unique, the families that can afford to go. This changes things.

This is a slippery slope they are on, to try and match what other teams, in areas with significant corporate support, can stand from a pricing perspective. This area barely had it before IBM and Nortel (among others) reduced their workforce by 75% over the past 5 years, and now doesnt have it at all. And without that, there simply isnt enough money to go around for 18k plus to buy tickets.

As for the lockout, put me in the "hook line and sinker"...as I thought Karmanos and the other owners real intent was to make the game better, when it really meant, "guaranteed profitability" by holding down salaries....guess the NHLPA wasnt so dumb after all....

nickgregory
05-03-2006, 09:23 PM
while the increase was expected for me (though higher than I could have guessed), the thing that bothers me the most, is (and for a second I am looking at this in my finances way and not my desire for the success of this team), is if they lose in the 2nd round, the organization will them have enough money from my 3rd and 4th round payments, that when added to the money they still have from the lockout season, to pay for almost the entire season of season tickets next year. And they will have this money in May for a season that starts in October (and dont forget they have had the lock out money for years)

Add to that, that in my opinion, the organization knew when the playoffs started this was the intent and didnt publish it them to avoid the backlash early.

There is no doubt in my mind that I will pay this year, and that by doing so it will hurt me in the wallet, but this action really puts me in a position where I need to reconsider my extracurricular funding. I have said for a long time that this franchise has tickets that are among the cheapest in the league, and that has contributed to one of the things that makes this franchise unique, the families that can afford to go. This changes things.

This is a slippery slope they are on, to try and match what other teams, in areas with significant corporate support, can stand from a pricing perspective. This area barely had it before IBM and Nortel (among others) reduced their workforce by 75% over the past 5 years, and now doesnt have it at all. And without that, there simply isnt enough money to go around for 18k plus to buy tickets.

As for the lockout, put me in the "hook line and sinker"...as I thought Karmanos and the other owners real intent was to make the game better, when it really meant, "guaranteed profitability" by holding down salaries....guess the NHLPA wasnt so dumb after all....

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 09:23 PM
Sooo....I guess me and CL and whoever else are just too stupid to care?

Hmmmm.....maybe. ;)

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 09:23 PM
Sooo....I guess me and CL and whoever else are just too stupid to care?

Hmmmm.....maybe. ;)

Canesluver
05-03-2006, 09:24 PM
Man. Just saw a highlights package on us on OLN. I realized I just don't care what they asked of me, I'd pay it. I'd max out every card I have, I'd increase my limit, I'd sell a freakin' kidney if I had to. This team this year is special and I'm not going to miss it. No matter what it costs me.

That pretty much sums it up for me, too.

I guess I just always figure, things will work out in the end, and the money will eventually appear. I guess I just don't sweat it.

Alicia
05-03-2006, 09:24 PM
Interesting that anyone that put down $100 bucks for next years seats by a certain date got the early bird discount (even if they didn't buy PO tickets), but unless we leave every GD leftover dime in with them, we lose it.



I cannot imagine that they wouldn't give you back all but the $100 required of everyone else and allow you to retain your seating priority and the early bird discount.

I guess they might make you leave in $250 or whatever the deposit is now. Still, I can't imagine they wouldn't give a partial refund and still allow you to retain the discount.

I agree - but that's what it says. Perhaps it's poorly worded because it just talks about "refunds".

Maybe I'll go to bed and wake up tomorrow either a) a lottery winner, b) with a different perspective, or c) just too stupid to care

I like your chances with c)! :beatup:

Canesluver
05-03-2006, 09:24 PM
Man. Just saw a highlights package on us on OLN. I realized I just don't care what they asked of me, I'd pay it. I'd max out every card I have, I'd increase my limit, I'd sell a freakin' kidney if I had to. This team this year is special and I'm not going to miss it. No matter what it costs me.

That pretty much sums it up for me, too.

I guess I just always figure, things will work out in the end, and the money will eventually appear. I guess I just don't sweat it.

Alicia
05-03-2006, 09:24 PM
Interesting that anyone that put down $100 bucks for next years seats by a certain date got the early bird discount (even if they didn't buy PO tickets), but unless we leave every GD leftover dime in with them, we lose it.



I cannot imagine that they wouldn't give you back all but the $100 required of everyone else and allow you to retain your seating priority and the early bird discount.

I guess they might make you leave in $250 or whatever the deposit is now. Still, I can't imagine they wouldn't give a partial refund and still allow you to retain the discount.

I agree - but that's what it says. Perhaps it's poorly worded because it just talks about "refunds".

Maybe I'll go to bed and wake up tomorrow either a) a lottery winner, b) with a different perspective, or c) just too stupid to care

I like your chances with c)! :beatup:

talkingcanes
05-03-2006, 09:25 PM
Interesting that anyone that put down $100 bucks for next years seats by a certain date got the early bird discount (even if they didn't buy PO tickets), but unless we leave every GD leftover dime in with them, we lose it.


here is my problem with that little scenario. they already have 2/3 of my money from the season they didn't play. I chose the 3 year I'm a huge big sucker option so they have a significant amount of my money on account already. I will raise holy hell if I can't get playoff money refunded for unused games. I don't want the rest of it back, but there are other people paying me for their tickets. I'm sure not going to refund $$ without $$ from the Canes. what a PR nightmare. did they consult with the NHLPA before making this decision :mad:

talkingcanes
05-03-2006, 09:25 PM
Interesting that anyone that put down $100 bucks for next years seats by a certain date got the early bird discount (even if they didn't buy PO tickets), but unless we leave every GD leftover dime in with them, we lose it.


here is my problem with that little scenario. they already have 2/3 of my money from the season they didn't play. I chose the 3 year I'm a huge big sucker option so they have a significant amount of my money on account already. I will raise holy hell if I can't get playoff money refunded for unused games. I don't want the rest of it back, but there are other people paying me for their tickets. I'm sure not going to refund $$ without $$ from the Canes. what a PR nightmare. did they consult with the NHLPA before making this decision :mad:

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 09:27 PM
Or, maybe the NHLPA weren't the greediest of the a**holes.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 09:27 PM
Or, maybe the NHLPA weren't the greediest of the a**holes.

MIKELIUT
05-03-2006, 09:28 PM
So who's going to come up with an In-Game protest about this? You hate to affect the team's players that had nothing to do with this decision. But many of the people I see writing here are saying round 2 will be their last round to attend. How do you wanna make your voice known in the first game? Sometimes silence is golden.

I suggest season ticket holders walk out to the concourses at 10:00 of the first period in game 1 of round 2 Saturday.

MIKELIUT
05-03-2006, 09:28 PM
So who's going to come up with an In-Game protest about this? You hate to affect the team's players that had nothing to do with this decision. But many of the people I see writing here are saying round 2 will be their last round to attend. How do you wanna make your voice known in the first game? Sometimes silence is golden.

I suggest season ticket holders walk out to the concourses at 10:00 of the first period in game 1 of round 2 Saturday.

talkingcanes
05-03-2006, 09:31 PM
Or, maybe the NHLPA weren't the greediest of the a**holes.

I was actually talking about their poor PR skills, but I didn't do a very good job of saying that ;)

talkingcanes
05-03-2006, 09:31 PM
Or, maybe the NHLPA weren't the greediest of the a**holes.

I was actually talking about their poor PR skills, but I didn't do a very good job of saying that ;)

nccanes
05-03-2006, 09:31 PM
I suggest season ticket holders walk out to the concourses at 10:00 of the first period in game 1 of round 2 Saturday.

No way - despite how depressed I am. I could even caculate the cost per minute at this point. My butt is in the seat during play - that rule won't change.

Interesting to note that we hit 37 or so users on at the same time during Tuesday's series clinching game. We've got 35 on now on a non-game night.

nccanes
05-03-2006, 09:31 PM
I suggest season ticket holders walk out to the concourses at 10:00 of the first period in game 1 of round 2 Saturday.

No way - despite how depressed I am. I could even caculate the cost per minute at this point. My butt is in the seat during play - that rule won't change.

Interesting to note that we hit 37 or so users on at the same time during Tuesday's series clinching game. We've got 35 on now on a non-game night.

ontheglass
05-03-2006, 09:38 PM
I suggest season ticket holders walk out to the concourses at 10:00 of the first period in game 1 of round 2 Saturday.

Now how would that look on TV? That's the kind of neg press we don't need. Yeah, the "REAL HOCKEY Towns" (in their minds) would have a field-day with that, if they knew what we were *****ing about ticket prices. It's obviously a personal choice, you can have a sign, write the N&O, or write to JK, but don't embarass the Canes on TV during an important Playoff game.

ontheglass
05-03-2006, 09:38 PM
I suggest season ticket holders walk out to the concourses at 10:00 of the first period in game 1 of round 2 Saturday.

Now how would that look on TV? That's the kind of neg press we don't need. Yeah, the "REAL HOCKEY Towns" (in their minds) would have a field-day with that, if they knew what we were *****ing about ticket prices. It's obviously a personal choice, you can have a sign, write the N&O, or write to JK, but don't embarass the Canes on TV during an important Playoff game.

IceSaber
05-03-2006, 09:40 PM
They should have
a) spread the burden over the 4 rounds if they were going to do the pricing and made the adjustments a little higher on the fron tend.
b) let us know up front - partnership with the fans and all that - so we could've PLANNED on it.

IceSaber
05-03-2006, 09:40 PM
They should have
a) spread the burden over the 4 rounds if they were going to do the pricing and made the adjustments a little higher on the fron tend.
b) let us know up front - partnership with the fans and all that - so we could've PLANNED on it.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 09:40 PM
It's obviously a personal choice, you can have a sign, write the N&O, or write to JK, but don't embarass the Canes on TV during an important Playoff game.

And don't obstruct MY view! :lol:

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 09:40 PM
It's obviously a personal choice, you can have a sign, write the N&O, or write to JK, but don't embarass the Canes on TV during an important Playoff game.

And don't obstruct MY view! :lol:

talkingcanes
05-03-2006, 09:40 PM
I suggest season ticket holders walk out to the concourses at 10:00 of the first period in game 1 of round 2 Saturday.

No way - despite how depressed I am. I could even caculate the cost per minute at this point. My butt is in the seat during play - that rule won't change.

Interesting to note that we hit 37 or so users on at the same time during Tuesday's series clinching game. We've got 35 on now on a non-game night.

I'm with you, E. You know how it makes me twitch when people move in front of me during play :evil: Staging a protest against the team seems to be missing the point. call, write, have a sit in at JR's office, but don't disrupt the game for the rest of us.

talkingcanes
05-03-2006, 09:40 PM
I suggest season ticket holders walk out to the concourses at 10:00 of the first period in game 1 of round 2 Saturday.

No way - despite how depressed I am. I could even caculate the cost per minute at this point. My butt is in the seat during play - that rule won't change.

Interesting to note that we hit 37 or so users on at the same time during Tuesday's series clinching game. We've got 35 on now on a non-game night.

I'm with you, E. You know how it makes me twitch when people move in front of me during play :evil: Staging a protest against the team seems to be missing the point. call, write, have a sit in at JR's office, but don't disrupt the game for the rest of us.

Guyute
05-03-2006, 09:41 PM
I'd never walk out during play either-- see my Round 2, Let's party thread for proof.

(and a note of my own, that thread isn't receiving much response. guess not many people are happy tonight eh?)

Guyute
05-03-2006, 09:41 PM
I'd never walk out during play either-- see my Round 2, Let's party thread for proof.

(and a note of my own, that thread isn't receiving much response. guess not many people are happy tonight eh?)

MIKELIUT
05-03-2006, 09:42 PM
I suggest season ticket holders walk out to the concourses at 10:00 of the first period in game 1 of round 2 Saturday.

No way - despite how depressed I am. I could even caculate the cost per minute at this point. My butt is in the seat during play - that rule won't change.

Interesting to note that we hit 37 or so users on at the same time during Tuesday's series clinching game. We've got 35 on now on a non-game night.

I'm with you, E. You know how it makes me twitch when people move in front of me during play :evil: Staging a protest against the team seems to be missing the point. call, write, have a sit in at JR's office, but don't disrupt the game for the rest of us.

I wasn;t being serious

MIKELIUT
05-03-2006, 09:42 PM
I suggest season ticket holders walk out to the concourses at 10:00 of the first period in game 1 of round 2 Saturday.

No way - despite how depressed I am. I could even caculate the cost per minute at this point. My butt is in the seat during play - that rule won't change.

Interesting to note that we hit 37 or so users on at the same time during Tuesday's series clinching game. We've got 35 on now on a non-game night.

I'm with you, E. You know how it makes me twitch when people move in front of me during play :evil: Staging a protest against the team seems to be missing the point. call, write, have a sit in at JR's office, but don't disrupt the game for the rest of us.

I wasn;t being serious

ontheboards
05-03-2006, 09:42 PM
Whether or not I can afford these tickets or not is not the point. It's the idea that this team has relied on the average person to buy their product-- not the corporations that buy Montral and Toronto tickets. We are the folks that buy their jerseys (and we wear them to games more than any other team), greet their players at the airport and raised the level of the NHL pre-game tailgate-- not lenovo, termidor, rbc, herpes meds, or rex hospital. No, this franchise is making up for the discounted tickets on the backs of the average fan and by likely pricing out the average fan from the playoffs, they really make that next invoice for the regular season less valuable because we know what is coming if the team gets to the playoffs again. Ultimately, this business plan errodes the goodwill and loyalty of Joe Fan and no STH special perks will compensate for this gouging. This was a planned move no doubt-- every business has a plan and this one was the Hurricanes' plan.

ontheboards
05-03-2006, 09:42 PM
Whether or not I can afford these tickets or not is not the point. It's the idea that this team has relied on the average person to buy their product-- not the corporations that buy Montral and Toronto tickets. We are the folks that buy their jerseys (and we wear them to games more than any other team), greet their players at the airport and raised the level of the NHL pre-game tailgate-- not lenovo, termidor, rbc, herpes meds, or rex hospital. No, this franchise is making up for the discounted tickets on the backs of the average fan and by likely pricing out the average fan from the playoffs, they really make that next invoice for the regular season less valuable because we know what is coming if the team gets to the playoffs again. Ultimately, this business plan errodes the goodwill and loyalty of Joe Fan and no STH special perks will compensate for this gouging. This was a planned move no doubt-- every business has a plan and this one was the Hurricanes' plan.

corylav
05-03-2006, 09:42 PM
I simply can't afford that ... no way.

More than anything, this makes me sad.

corylav
05-03-2006, 09:42 PM
I simply can't afford that ... no way.

More than anything, this makes me sad.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 09:43 PM
They should have
a) spread the burden over the 4 rounds if they were going to do the pricing and made the adjustments a little higher on the fron tend.
b) let us know up front - partnership with the fans and all that - so we could've PLANNED on it.

Agree completely.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-03-2006, 09:43 PM
They should have
a) spread the burden over the 4 rounds if they were going to do the pricing and made the adjustments a little higher on the fron tend.
b) let us know up front - partnership with the fans and all that - so we could've PLANNED on it.

Agree completely.

nickgregory
05-03-2006, 09:44 PM
They should have
a) spread the burden over the 4 rounds if they were going to do the pricing and made the adjustments a little higher on the fron tend.
b) let us know up front - partnership with the fans and all that - so we could've PLANNED on it.

agree completely with this. and having been a sports fan in the northeast, I can say not a single team up there would do this, but this is not a typical market, which is something I am still shocked that the organization just doesnt understand, even yet.

nickgregory
05-03-2006, 09:44 PM
They should have
a) spread the burden over the 4 rounds if they were going to do the pricing and made the adjustments a little higher on the fron tend.
b) let us know up front - partnership with the fans and all that - so we could've PLANNED on it.

agree completely with this. and having been a sports fan in the northeast, I can say not a single team up there would do this, but this is not a typical market, which is something I am still shocked that the organization just doesnt understand, even yet.

CanesChic
05-03-2006, 09:44 PM
Sorry guys - that really sucks. And I have no room for an opinion as I am not a STH (kinda hard to do from across the country...)

but, :D at least we are discussing Rounds 3 & 4. ;)

CanesChic
05-03-2006, 09:44 PM
Sorry guys - that really sucks. And I have no room for an opinion as I am not a STH (kinda hard to do from across the country...)

but, :D at least we are discussing Rounds 3 & 4. ;)

talkingcanes
05-03-2006, 09:48 PM
They should have
a) spread the burden over the 4 rounds if they were going to do the pricing and made the adjustments a little higher on the fron tend.
b) let us know up front - partnership with the fans and all that - so we could've PLANNED on it.

Agree completely.

I agree as well, but I am part of the "problem". I will gripe and complain and write them a check. It's too much money for 8 hockey games, but I will pay it, grumbling all the way. My positive is that it's only me. I couldn't swing 2 seats and I'm not sure the people sharing my 2nd seat will be able to swing it which is a real shame because they love hockey and have spent a lot of money supporting this team. It's just wrong that STH can't afford their seats for the playoffs. I don't have a solution, but it's just wrong.

talkingcanes
05-03-2006, 09:48 PM
They should have
a) spread the burden over the 4 rounds if they were going to do the pricing and made the adjustments a little higher on the fron tend.
b) let us know up front - partnership with the fans and all that - so we could've PLANNED on it.

Agree completely.

I agree as well, but I am part of the "problem". I will gripe and complain and write them a check. It's too much money for 8 hockey games, but I will pay it, grumbling all the way. My positive is that it's only me. I couldn't swing 2 seats and I'm not sure the people sharing my 2nd seat will be able to swing it which is a real shame because they love hockey and have spent a lot of money supporting this team. It's just wrong that STH can't afford their seats for the playoffs. I don't have a solution, but it's just wrong.

nickgregory
05-03-2006, 09:48 PM
you know it also makes me wonder what would have happened if the canes were eliminated in round 1...would we get the "woe is me" from the organization again? And is it safe to assume that by gouging the prices like this on the loyal fanbase that they will spend what it takes to keep the team together and add valuable parts?

You know, the way this franchise has chosen to interact with the community has gone straight to the garbage since Jim Cain moved on....he was the only one who understood how to grow community goodwill and maintain it...

nickgregory
05-03-2006, 09:48 PM
you know it also makes me wonder what would have happened if the canes were eliminated in round 1...would we get the "woe is me" from the organization again? And is it safe to assume that by gouging the prices like this on the loyal fanbase that they will spend what it takes to keep the team together and add valuable parts?

You know, the way this franchise has chosen to interact with the community has gone straight to the garbage since Jim Cain moved on....he was the only one who understood how to grow community goodwill and maintain it...

Guyute
05-03-2006, 09:48 PM
just a minor point here, and I may be nitpicking....

but I keep seeing "pricing out the average fan".
I'm no average fan. I'm quite hardcore. always have been, and it'll take much more than this or a lockout to change that.

they're pricing out All Kinds of Fans... even the hardcores.

Guyute
05-03-2006, 09:48 PM
just a minor point here, and I may be nitpicking....

but I keep seeing "pricing out the average fan".
I'm no average fan. I'm quite hardcore. always have been, and it'll take much more than this or a lockout to change that.

they're pricing out All Kinds of Fans... even the hardcores.

corylav
05-03-2006, 09:49 PM
and walk out of a game I already paid for???

corylav
05-03-2006, 09:49 PM
and walk out of a game I already paid for???

Alicia
05-03-2006, 09:49 PM
they're pricing out All Kinds of Fans... even the hardcores.

Thank you.

Alicia
05-03-2006, 09:49 PM
they're pricing out All Kinds of Fans... even the hardcores.

Thank you.

goalie33
05-03-2006, 09:50 PM
Maybe they'll realize it when their precious atmosphere is gone.

I'm debating HARD right now. I can sort of afford one seat, but most certainly not two.

I realize the "once in a lifetime" nature of this event, so I might bite...but if I do, I can almost guarantee that the rest of my money will be withdrawn after the playoffs.

goalie33
05-03-2006, 09:50 PM
Maybe they'll realize it when their precious atmosphere is gone.

I'm debating HARD right now. I can sort of afford one seat, but most certainly not two.

I realize the "once in a lifetime" nature of this event, so I might bite...but if I do, I can almost guarantee that the rest of my money will be withdrawn after the playoffs.

nccanes
05-03-2006, 09:50 PM
They should have
a) spread the burden over the 4 rounds if they were going to do the pricing and made the adjustments a little higher on the fron tend.
b) let us know up front - partnership with the fans and all that - so we could've PLANNED on it.

Agree completely.

Right. Given the "starting point" on the tickets - even with a 20% increase with each round - you don't end up with those price in rounds 3/4 -- even with a 30% increase with each round - you don't end up with those prices in round 3/4 (for mezzanine anyway).

I would have approached things differently had I had any clue.

Another thing that has made this go 'round more expensive is the elimination of plan holders to get an early bird opportunity to buy add'l seats. Of course it worked in selling more strips, but if they price hike negates that later, it's kinda counter productive. I get that they couldn't support 48 straight hours of phone sales like '02. But if they'd given the plan holders a jump start on add'l individual seats for each round (even at non strip prices) we'd have more flexibility too.

Okay - time for bed I'm really rambling now..... :lol:

nccanes
05-03-2006, 09:50 PM
They should have
a) spread the burden over the 4 rounds if they were going to do the pricing and made the adjustments a little higher on the fron tend.
b) let us know up front - partnership with the fans and all that - so we could've PLANNED on it.

Agree completely.

Right. Given the "starting point" on the tickets - even with a 20% increase with each round - you don't end up with those price in rounds 3/4 -- even with a 30% increase with each round - you don't end up with those prices in round 3/4 (for mezzanine anyway).

I would have approached things differently had I had any clue.

Another thing that has made this go 'round more expensive is the elimination of plan holders to get an early bird opportunity to buy add'l seats. Of course it worked in selling more strips, but if they price hike negates that later, it's kinda counter productive. I get that they couldn't support 48 straight hours of phone sales like '02. But if they'd given the plan holders a jump start on add'l individual seats for each round (even at non strip prices) we'd have more flexibility too.

Okay - time for bed I'm really rambling now..... :lol:

Cool Hand Luke
05-03-2006, 09:58 PM
wow....they have been sitting on my money for years now because I was stupid enough to support them over the lockout, and this is the thanks I get? I feel like I need to pull the knife from my back. My seats are mezzanine and for whatever reason got the biggest increase, 300%. Do all the corporate hotshots want to sit in the mezz?

I got 4 extra seats for the first 2 rounds but that ain't happenin again and I know I'm not alone.

Cool Hand Luke
05-03-2006, 09:58 PM
wow....they have been sitting on my money for years now because I was stupid enough to support them over the lockout, and this is the thanks I get? I feel like I need to pull the knife from my back. My seats are mezzanine and for whatever reason got the biggest increase, 300%. Do all the corporate hotshots want to sit in the mezz?

I got 4 extra seats for the first 2 rounds but that ain't happenin again and I know I'm not alone.

Guyute
05-03-2006, 10:00 PM
yeah, we actually have 4 seats on our invoice... a nearly 2k invoice for 314. astounding.

Guyute
05-03-2006, 10:00 PM
yeah, we actually have 4 seats on our invoice... a nearly 2k invoice for 314. astounding.

Cool Hand Luke
05-03-2006, 10:01 PM
Think I'll go back to the Flames game..*L* This is too depressing.

Cool Hand Luke
05-03-2006, 10:01 PM
Think I'll go back to the Flames game..*L* This is too depressing.

Shattered
05-03-2006, 10:02 PM
Guess the old adage - money doesn't grow on trees is appropriate here.

I've read over the FAQ - and I don't see an opportunity to downgrade my seats in an attempt to save some money. I guess I'll have to ask my rep.

The irony is - if the Canes don't advance (just like 8 1st round teams + non playoff teams won't) - they don't collect dime #1 of these high prices. Is the trade off in this PR deal really worth it?

I asked my rep about downgrading for 3 & 4 when I got our current strips. He said as long as the seats are available you can move them. Looks like you won't have a problem. :sad:

Shattered
05-03-2006, 10:02 PM
Guess the old adage - money doesn't grow on trees is appropriate here.

I've read over the FAQ - and I don't see an opportunity to downgrade my seats in an attempt to save some money. I guess I'll have to ask my rep.

The irony is - if the Canes don't advance (just like 8 1st round teams + non playoff teams won't) - they don't collect dime #1 of these high prices. Is the trade off in this PR deal really worth it?

I asked my rep about downgrading for 3 & 4 when I got our current strips. He said as long as the seats are available you can move them. Looks like you won't have a problem. :sad:

tommy
05-03-2006, 10:02 PM
Man. Just saw a highlights package on us on OLN. I realized I just don't care what they asked of me, I'd pay it. I'd max out every card I have, I'd increase my limit, I'd sell a freakin' kidney if I had to. This team this year is special and I'm not going to miss it. No matter what it costs me.

That pretty much sums it up for me, too.

I guess I just always figure, things will work out in the end, and the money will eventually appear. I guess I just don't sweat it.

havent read page 5 of this thread, but this is my opinion:

i am a freshman in college, and i've had a steady job for exactly 10 months of my life. right now i have a little over 400 dollars to my name. i am NOT, under any circumstance, going to empty my bank account to see a handful of hockey games. i simply cannot afford that, and I think you will realize, if we make it to round 3 or the cup finals, how much of an impact the college-aged crowd has.

this is utter bull**** to me. i love this team. i also need to be able to pay for gas, and ultimately, in the future, student loans and things like that. i surely, surely hope that you are not insinuating that you are any bigger of a fan than i am because youre willing (or even able) to throw that money at tickets. i love this team to death, but i can tell you right now that i will not be going to any games in round 3 or 4 if we make it, unless i take the easy way out and get daddy to pay for them. (and thats a big deal to me; i hate allowing my dad to spend that much money on me, call it pride issues or whatever...)

at the VERY least, some sort of warning would have been appreciated. "hey, fans, in a couple weeks you're going to see 400% price increases for walk-up tickets. kthx."

UGH.

tommy
05-03-2006, 10:02 PM
Man. Just saw a highlights package on us on OLN. I realized I just don't care what they asked of me, I'd pay it. I'd max out every card I have, I'd increase my limit, I'd sell a freakin' kidney if I had to. This team this year is special and I'm not going to miss it. No matter what it costs me.

That pretty much sums it up for me, too.

I guess I just always figure, things will work out in the end, and the money will eventually appear. I guess I just don't sweat it.

havent read page 5 of this thread, but this is my opinion:

i am a freshman in college, and i've had a steady job for exactly 10 months of my life. right now i have a little over 400 dollars to my name. i am NOT, under any circumstance, going to empty my bank account to see a handful of hockey games. i simply cannot afford that, and I think you will realize, if we make it to round 3 or the cup finals, how much of an impact the college-aged crowd has.

this is utter bull**** to me. i love this team. i also need to be able to pay for gas, and ultimately, in the future, student loans and things like that. i surely, surely hope that you are not insinuating that you are any bigger of a fan than i am because youre willing (or even able) to throw that money at tickets. i love this team to death, but i can tell you right now that i will not be going to any games in round 3 or 4 if we make it, unless i take the easy way out and get daddy to pay for them. (and thats a big deal to me; i hate allowing my dad to spend that much money on me, call it pride issues or whatever...)

at the VERY least, some sort of warning would have been appreciated. "hey, fans, in a couple weeks you're going to see 400% price increases for walk-up tickets. kthx."

UGH.