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Canesluver
05-08-2006, 11:15 PM
How good does this feel, fellow Caniacs, to head into Jersey up 2-0????!!!

As Coach would say, "Keep your foot on the gas!"

Puck drops at 7:00PM

LET'S GO 'CANES!!

Canesluver
05-08-2006, 11:15 PM
How good does this feel, fellow Caniacs, to head into Jersey up 2-0????!!!

As Coach would say, "Keep your foot on the gas!"

Puck drops at 7:00PM

LET'S GO 'CANES!!

SouthernHockeyChick
05-08-2006, 11:48 PM
It CAN'T stay this easy (not that tonight was actually easy). Not with a team as good as Jersey, a goaltender as good as Brodeur, and with King Midas Lamoriello at the helm. They'll fight and they'll fight hard. But if we keep bringing our A-game and working this hard I think we can take it. We ain't got nothin' won yet, though.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-08-2006, 11:48 PM
It CAN'T stay this easy (not that tonight was actually easy). Not with a team as good as Jersey, a goaltender as good as Brodeur, and with King Midas Lamoriello at the helm. They'll fight and they'll fight hard. But if we keep bringing our A-game and working this hard I think we can take it. We ain't got nothin' won yet, though.

HF
05-08-2006, 11:54 PM
I want 3 in Game 3.

K... bear with me. Trust me, ya'll won't be the only ones who thought I was insane when I told him this tonight :p

K, period 3, scored at :03 by #12 (1+2=3)
Scored #3 at 3:09 (9 = 3x3)
And we've not lost a game since Game 3 when #30 was put in goal.
More 3s.
And now I want #3 in Game 3.
Granted, I'm a little biased to a 39 (see, more 3s, hehe) but still...

I'm allowed to be a little crazy, right? I mean it IS the play*ffs!

:nanner: :nanner: :nanner:

HF
05-08-2006, 11:54 PM
I want 3 in Game 3.

K... bear with me. Trust me, ya'll won't be the only ones who thought I was insane when I told him this tonight :p

K, period 3, scored at :03 by #12 (1+2=3)
Scored #3 at 3:09 (9 = 3x3)
And we've not lost a game since Game 3 when #30 was put in goal.
More 3s.
And now I want #3 in Game 3.
Granted, I'm a little biased to a 39 (see, more 3s, hehe) but still...

I'm allowed to be a little crazy, right? I mean it IS the play*ffs!

:nanner: :nanner: :nanner:

Mona
05-09-2006, 07:53 AM
I want them to play like they did on Saturday. I want domination of that puck for all three periods. Pressure the puck at all times and sweep away anything that remotely gets away from Cam.

How sweet it would be to head to the airport on Friday night with "brxxms" in hand. :spin:

GO CANES GO!!

Mona
05-09-2006, 07:53 AM
I want them to play like they did on Saturday. I want domination of that puck for all three periods. Pressure the puck at all times and sweep away anything that remotely gets away from Cam.

How sweet it would be to head to the airport on Friday night with "brxxms" in hand. :spin:

GO CANES GO!!

caniac369
05-09-2006, 10:01 AM
Hubby is calling Dish Network so I can watch the game when I get home tomorrow from work (yes, I'm doing a half day after flying back!!).

Last night was celebration, today is reveling and tomorrow will be a clean slate. Let's make it 3-0 boys!!

:nanner: WHOO HOO!! GO CANES!! :nanner:

caniac369
05-09-2006, 10:01 AM
Hubby is calling Dish Network so I can watch the game when I get home tomorrow from work (yes, I'm doing a half day after flying back!!).

Last night was celebration, today is reveling and tomorrow will be a clean slate. Let's make it 3-0 boys!!

:nanner: WHOO HOO!! GO CANES!! :nanner:

caveman
05-09-2006, 10:27 AM
How sweet it would be to head to the airport on Friday night with "brxxms" in hand. :spin:

You'd be early; game 4 is on Saturday!

caveman
05-09-2006, 10:27 AM
How sweet it would be to head to the airport on Friday night with "brxxms" in hand. :spin:

You'd be early; game 4 is on Saturday!

Canesluver
05-09-2006, 10:30 AM
How sweet it would be to head to the airport on Friday night with "brooms" in hand. :spin:

You'd be early; game 4 is on Saturday!

I think we need to invoke "good karma" like we did before we clinched our playoff spot, and subsitute "x's" for the vowels.

Better say - swxxp and brxxm-- folks.... if you really want to say that at all! :crazy:

Canesluver
05-09-2006, 10:30 AM
How sweet it would be to head to the airport on Friday night with "brooms" in hand. :spin:

You'd be early; game 4 is on Saturday!

I think we need to invoke "good karma" like we did before we clinched our playoff spot, and subsitute "x's" for the vowels.

Better say - swxxp and brxxm-- folks.... if you really want to say that at all! :crazy:

caveman
05-09-2006, 11:06 AM
38-21. 38-23. Those are the shots totals for games 1 and 2 of this series.

43-21. 46-36. Those were the shots totals, also in our favor, for games 1 and 2 of the last series.

For all those who want to line up the "reverse mirror image" of our two playoff rounds, and count the ducks in a row, and not want to go "whole hog" in insane happiness at this point, look at those stats. Yes, we lost the first two games to Montreal in "skunk" and "painful OT" fashion, much as the Devils lost the first two games to us in this series.

But the similarities end. We outworked Montreal and heavily out-shot them. Montreal skated with us. The Devils did no such things to us in either game. They had 1 decent period of hockey, the 1st period of Game 1.

I'll repeat: they're too slow, they don't have the endurance to skate with us. GO CANES, put the hammer down and don't let up. We know that a loss in game 3 makes it a series again, and we don't want any part of it. Keep skating, keep your sticks on the ice, keep out of the box, and keep Brodeur whining instead of winning!

caveman
05-09-2006, 11:06 AM
38-21. 38-23. Those are the shots totals for games 1 and 2 of this series.

43-21. 46-36. Those were the shots totals, also in our favor, for games 1 and 2 of the last series.

For all those who want to line up the "reverse mirror image" of our two playoff rounds, and count the ducks in a row, and not want to go "whole hog" in insane happiness at this point, look at those stats. Yes, we lost the first two games to Montreal in "skunk" and "painful OT" fashion, much as the Devils lost the first two games to us in this series.

But the similarities end. We outworked Montreal and heavily out-shot them. Montreal skated with us. The Devils did no such things to us in either game. They had 1 decent period of hockey, the 1st period of Game 1.

I'll repeat: they're too slow, they don't have the endurance to skate with us. GO CANES, put the hammer down and don't let up. We know that a loss in game 3 makes it a series again, and we don't want any part of it. Keep skating, keep your sticks on the ice, keep out of the box, and keep Brodeur whining instead of winning!

Mona
05-09-2006, 12:05 PM
How sweet it would be to head to the airport on Friday night with "brxxms" in hand. :spin:

You'd be early; game 4 is on Saturday!

Doh!! Sorry.. I would be wondering where you all were huh? :p

Mona
05-09-2006, 12:05 PM
How sweet it would be to head to the airport on Friday night with "brxxms" in hand. :spin:

You'd be early; game 4 is on Saturday!

Doh!! Sorry.. I would be wondering where you all were huh? :p

ONeillsNo1Fan
05-09-2006, 12:10 PM
I was actually thinking the same thing after the game. Shame that the facepaint would've gone to waste! ;)

ONeillsNo1Fan
05-09-2006, 12:10 PM
I was actually thinking the same thing after the game. Shame that the facepaint would've gone to waste! ;)

SoCalcaniac
05-09-2006, 12:20 PM
I'll repeat: they're too slow, they don't have the endurance to skate with us. GO CANES, put the hammer down and don't let up. We know that a loss in game 3 makes it a series again, and we don't want any part of it. Keep skating, keep your sticks on the ice, keep out of the box, and keep Brodeur whining instead of winning!

cm- I totally agree, especially with your assertion that they're too slow. I am more than convinced and apparently the talking heads on XM and the other media outlets are too, all talking about how we are making our 'breaks' and that we're the better team.

I will go down swinging with that belief as well, cause I know nothing else, and I believe, now that they are gonna be nowhere near us and the need for the Canes that they put on a show they will play the "simple game" that's always talked about when you're on the road; because now the pressure is on NJ- and the Canes will just keep at them in waves, because we have that balanced attack. it's all about destiny. I'm gonna stick to that belief.

SoCalcaniac
05-09-2006, 12:20 PM
I'll repeat: they're too slow, they don't have the endurance to skate with us. GO CANES, put the hammer down and don't let up. We know that a loss in game 3 makes it a series again, and we don't want any part of it. Keep skating, keep your sticks on the ice, keep out of the box, and keep Brodeur whining instead of winning!

cm- I totally agree, especially with your assertion that they're too slow. I am more than convinced and apparently the talking heads on XM and the other media outlets are too, all talking about how we are making our 'breaks' and that we're the better team.

I will go down swinging with that belief as well, cause I know nothing else, and I believe, now that they are gonna be nowhere near us and the need for the Canes that they put on a show they will play the "simple game" that's always talked about when you're on the road; because now the pressure is on NJ- and the Canes will just keep at them in waves, because we have that balanced attack. it's all about destiny. I'm gonna stick to that belief.

caveman
05-09-2006, 12:26 PM
Personally I don't believe in destiny. I believe in will. Brindy's shown the will. Justin showed the will in the corner with about 5 seconds to go last night. Staal's showed the will. Cory showed the will in Montreal, game 6. Cam's shown the will. Aaron Ward has shown the will. Wallin, go down the list. "Whatever it takes" is cheesy but these guys are paying the price.

Where has Jersey's will been seen? Conspicuously absent. To date in this series, their first adversity at all in the playoffs, they've folded like a house of cards, and weaseled, slunk, and whined their way out of Raleigh.

They'll try to show a little something at home, I don't doubt it. They'll come out, try to skate uphill. Maybe get another goal.

But there's a wall of Hurricane force waiting; it will knock them down, it will blow them back. Our guys simply want it more, period. It's really that simple and obvious to me.

Destiny? Meh. It's all about one team with a will and a way, and another which seems to have lost both.

caveman
05-09-2006, 12:26 PM
Personally I don't believe in destiny. I believe in will. Brindy's shown the will. Justin showed the will in the corner with about 5 seconds to go last night. Staal's showed the will. Cory showed the will in Montreal, game 6. Cam's shown the will. Aaron Ward has shown the will. Wallin, go down the list. "Whatever it takes" is cheesy but these guys are paying the price.

Where has Jersey's will been seen? Conspicuously absent. To date in this series, their first adversity at all in the playoffs, they've folded like a house of cards, and weaseled, slunk, and whined their way out of Raleigh.

They'll try to show a little something at home, I don't doubt it. They'll come out, try to skate uphill. Maybe get another goal.

But there's a wall of Hurricane force waiting; it will knock them down, it will blow them back. Our guys simply want it more, period. It's really that simple and obvious to me.

Destiny? Meh. It's all about one team with a will and a way, and another which seems to have lost both.

Staalgurl4ever
05-09-2006, 12:52 PM
The devils are gonna do whatever they can to get a win. So we mus do what we did in the game last night.

Staalgurl4ever
05-09-2006, 12:52 PM
The devils are gonna do whatever they can to get a win. So we mus do what we did in the game last night.

DevsCupChamps
05-09-2006, 01:09 PM
You guys can't possibly imagine how much a loss like that rips out your heart. I can't feel good about what has traspired so far. Full marks to your team for outworking and outhustling mine for almost every period so far. Still, you can't say the Devils have played even remotely close to well so far. Perhaps they never will in this series and of course your team has something to do with it. However, you have to keep in mind that the Devils were badly outplayed after the 1st period in the last game and it took, essentially, a miracle for your team to tie the game. Maybe this game will break the Devils, its a good possiblility. They did however, show that they can get your team on its heels a little bit in the first period, they just haven't kept up the intensity and work ethic through the rest of the game. You can't play a team as good and as strong as the Canes and think 20 minutes will win it for you. I think its inaccurate to say the Devils are too slow for the Canes. Guys like Elias, Gomez, Parise, Gionta, and Langenbrunner can skate with the Canes. They just have to take the shots and opportunities they have instead of making extra passes looking for a perfect scoring chance that your team won't allow. I just want to say that you shouldn't count the Devils out just yet. You are in the driver's seat, no doubt, and I won't even bring up the comparison to your last series. If the Devils history, especially this season, is an indicator, then watch out for the Devils in game 3. This has always been a team that responds and plays its best when it is up against the wall. They certainly are there now. I look forward to a good game and I think you guys will see a hungry and determined team in game 3.

DevsCupChamps
05-09-2006, 01:09 PM
You guys can't possibly imagine how much a loss like that rips out your heart. I can't feel good about what has traspired so far. Full marks to your team for outworking and outhustling mine for almost every period so far. Still, you can't say the Devils have played even remotely close to well so far. Perhaps they never will in this series and of course your team has something to do with it. However, you have to keep in mind that the Devils were badly outplayed after the 1st period in the last game and it took, essentially, a miracle for your team to tie the game. Maybe this game will break the Devils, its a good possiblility. They did however, show that they can get your team on its heels a little bit in the first period, they just haven't kept up the intensity and work ethic through the rest of the game. You can't play a team as good and as strong as the Canes and think 20 minutes will win it for you. I think its inaccurate to say the Devils are too slow for the Canes. Guys like Elias, Gomez, Parise, Gionta, and Langenbrunner can skate with the Canes. They just have to take the shots and opportunities they have instead of making extra passes looking for a perfect scoring chance that your team won't allow. I just want to say that you shouldn't count the Devils out just yet. You are in the driver's seat, no doubt, and I won't even bring up the comparison to your last series. If the Devils history, especially this season, is an indicator, then watch out for the Devils in game 3. This has always been a team that responds and plays its best when it is up against the wall. They certainly are there now. I look forward to a good game and I think you guys will see a hungry and determined team in game 3.

Canesluver
05-09-2006, 01:12 PM
I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that we are much deeper team. All the Devs have is 1 line and a goalie. That's not enough to beat a confidence-fueled, deep team, like the Hurricanes.

Canesluver
05-09-2006, 01:12 PM
I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that we are much deeper team. All the Devs have is 1 line and a goalie. That's not enough to beat a confidence-fueled, deep team, like the Hurricanes.

nccanes
05-09-2006, 01:14 PM
No worries DCC. I've already begun my move from elation to worry for tomorrow night's game.

Granted our Game 2 OT loss was devastating, but the Canes outplayed the Habs for the 2/3/1OT/2OT period for the most part. They left that game with a little confidence along with the heartbreak.

If the Devils take Game 3 - it's a whole new ball game, imo.

nccanes
05-09-2006, 01:14 PM
No worries DCC. I've already begun my move from elation to worry for tomorrow night's game.

Granted our Game 2 OT loss was devastating, but the Canes outplayed the Habs for the 2/3/1OT/2OT period for the most part. They left that game with a little confidence along with the heartbreak.

If the Devils take Game 3 - it's a whole new ball game, imo.

alison
05-09-2006, 01:16 PM
The devils are gonna do whatever they can to get a win. So we mus do what we did in the game last night.

...and even more so. Play like we did in the 3rd period/OT from the start of the game, and for 60 minutes (at least...) thereafter.

alison
05-09-2006, 01:16 PM
The devils are gonna do whatever they can to get a win. So we mus do what we did in the game last night.

...and even more so. Play like we did in the 3rd period/OT from the start of the game, and for 60 minutes (at least...) thereafter.

IceSaber
05-09-2006, 01:16 PM
If the Devils can keep up the intensity they had in the first in the last game, fueled by their home crowd - it'll be a tough game 3...I'll be interested to see the strategy change on both sides...and then with 2 days between games 3 and 4...What adjustments will be made on both sides...

But I want to see that foot on the gas and the one game at a time metality continue - we're getting giddy...but I want that locker room staying the course. This is where leadership and experience becomes key - keep them focused Captains...
GO CANES!

IceSaber
05-09-2006, 01:16 PM
If the Devils can keep up the intensity they had in the first in the last game, fueled by their home crowd - it'll be a tough game 3...I'll be interested to see the strategy change on both sides...and then with 2 days between games 3 and 4...What adjustments will be made on both sides...

But I want to see that foot on the gas and the one game at a time metality continue - we're getting giddy...but I want that locker room staying the course. This is where leadership and experience becomes key - keep them focused Captains...
GO CANES!

Guyute
05-09-2006, 01:17 PM
You guys can't possibly imagine how much a loss like that rips out your heart.

ever watch a loss in a SCF game in the 3rd overtime in your building. believe me, we know.


However, you have to keep in mind that the Devils were badly outplayed after the 1st period in the last game and it took, essentially, a miracle for your team to tie the game. Maybe this game will break the Devils, its a good possiblility. They did however, show that they can get your team on its heels a little bit in the first period, they just haven't kept up the intensity and work ethic through the rest of the game. You can't play a team as good and as strong as the Canes and think 20 minutes will win it for you.

I'd say it was about the halfway point of the game. I think the Devs still looked pretty strong to start the 2nd. but yeah, by midway through, we finally started to put a little pressure on.
I agree though, 1st period I was damn glad to get out of only being down by 1.. because we were badly outplayed.
a 60 minute effort is something most teams struggle with. we have all complained about it all year long, even during a 112 point season. you just have to hope they play when it matters.

I just want to say that you shouldn't count the Devils out just yet. You are in the driver's seat, no doubt, and I won't even bring up the comparison to your last series. If the Devils history, especially this season, is an indicator, then watch out for the Devils in game 3. This has always been a team that responds and plays its best when it is up against the wall. They certainly are there now. I look forward to a good game and I think you guys will see a hungry and determined team in game 3.

I don't think anyone here is honestly counting this one as over. I'd be Thrilled to get one on the road, come back here 3-1 and go from there.
Nor do I have ANY doubt that your boys will want to put on a show at home, now that you're finally there. The problem is, that can be a lot of added pressure on a team that's already having some problems. Normally playing at home makes a team want to play better for their fans. sometimes it works out that way... sometimes not.

All in All, last night was a fantastically entertaining game to watch. we had our heart broken with 20 secs to go (by a puck that went off 2 sticks And hit both posts.. so there's been luck all around)... and then euphoria with a mere 3 seconds to go. you don't get stuff like that often. It's more of what I was expecting with this series. Certainly closer than that 1st game anyway. I don't have much doubt that the rest of the games will be as close as game 2.

Guyute
05-09-2006, 01:17 PM
You guys can't possibly imagine how much a loss like that rips out your heart.

ever watch a loss in a SCF game in the 3rd overtime in your building. believe me, we know.


However, you have to keep in mind that the Devils were badly outplayed after the 1st period in the last game and it took, essentially, a miracle for your team to tie the game. Maybe this game will break the Devils, its a good possiblility. They did however, show that they can get your team on its heels a little bit in the first period, they just haven't kept up the intensity and work ethic through the rest of the game. You can't play a team as good and as strong as the Canes and think 20 minutes will win it for you.

I'd say it was about the halfway point of the game. I think the Devs still looked pretty strong to start the 2nd. but yeah, by midway through, we finally started to put a little pressure on.
I agree though, 1st period I was damn glad to get out of only being down by 1.. because we were badly outplayed.
a 60 minute effort is something most teams struggle with. we have all complained about it all year long, even during a 112 point season. you just have to hope they play when it matters.

I just want to say that you shouldn't count the Devils out just yet. You are in the driver's seat, no doubt, and I won't even bring up the comparison to your last series. If the Devils history, especially this season, is an indicator, then watch out for the Devils in game 3. This has always been a team that responds and plays its best when it is up against the wall. They certainly are there now. I look forward to a good game and I think you guys will see a hungry and determined team in game 3.

I don't think anyone here is honestly counting this one as over. I'd be Thrilled to get one on the road, come back here 3-1 and go from there.
Nor do I have ANY doubt that your boys will want to put on a show at home, now that you're finally there. The problem is, that can be a lot of added pressure on a team that's already having some problems. Normally playing at home makes a team want to play better for their fans. sometimes it works out that way... sometimes not.

All in All, last night was a fantastically entertaining game to watch. we had our heart broken with 20 secs to go (by a puck that went off 2 sticks And hit both posts.. so there's been luck all around)... and then euphoria with a mere 3 seconds to go. you don't get stuff like that often. It's more of what I was expecting with this series. Certainly closer than that 1st game anyway. I don't have much doubt that the rest of the games will be as close as game 2.

alison
05-09-2006, 01:17 PM
You guys can't possibly imagine how much a loss like that rips out your heart.

Actually, yes, we can, more recently than not...welcome to our world 2 weeks ago with a 2OT loss to Montreal. Go further back to '02 with the 3OT loss in our building to Detroit.

alison
05-09-2006, 01:17 PM
You guys can't possibly imagine how much a loss like that rips out your heart.

Actually, yes, we can, more recently than not...welcome to our world 2 weeks ago with a 2OT loss to Montreal. Go further back to '02 with the 3OT loss in our building to Detroit.

Captain Slack
05-09-2006, 01:19 PM
You guys can't possibly imagine how much a loss like that rips out your heart.

Can't we? Trust me, we do. Everyone here remembers Game 3 of the SCF in 2002.

Captain Slack
05-09-2006, 01:19 PM
You guys can't possibly imagine how much a loss like that rips out your heart.

Can't we? Trust me, we do. Everyone here remembers Game 3 of the SCF in 2002.

caveman
05-09-2006, 01:19 PM
I think its inaccurate to say the Devils are too slow for the Canes. Guys like Elias, Gomez, Parise, Gionta, and Langenbrunner can skate with the Canes.

You named quite a few fine forwards that would admittedly make any roster in the NHL. Need some d-men in that list.

caveman
05-09-2006, 01:19 PM
I think its inaccurate to say the Devils are too slow for the Canes. Guys like Elias, Gomez, Parise, Gionta, and Langenbrunner can skate with the Canes.

You named quite a few fine forwards that would admittedly make any roster in the NHL. Need some d-men in that list.

CC
05-09-2006, 01:28 PM
"You guys can't possibly imagine how much a loss like that rips out your heart."

We can't huh. Game 2 Montreal at Carolina. Errily similiar circumstances to this one exept we went down in OT at home. We KNOW exactly how it feels. It is not what happens to you but what you do about it.

CC
05-09-2006, 01:28 PM
"You guys can't possibly imagine how much a loss like that rips out your heart."

We can't huh. Game 2 Montreal at Carolina. Errily similiar circumstances to this one exept we went down in OT at home. We KNOW exactly how it feels. It is not what happens to you but what you do about it.

DevsCupChamps
05-09-2006, 01:28 PM
The overtime loss I can handle and accept much more than letting in the tying goal with 3 seconds left after taking the lead with 20 seconds left and after winning the ensuing faceoff. Don't get me wrong guys. The Canes outplayed the Devils for half the game at least and were the better team. They deserved the win and I'm sure it was frustrating watching all those shots and opportunities and coming up empty. I realize the Gomez goal was lucky and I'm not taking anything away from you guys. Elias also hit the post at one point late in the game (I think) and that was a lucky bounce for you guys. We got those bounces against the rags. The better team that dominates the play creates those types of bounces with their effort and play so when I say "lucky" I don't mean that it was some divine intervention or aligning of the stars and no other reason.

I will admit our D is slow, for the most part. I think Martin and Rafalski have speed and good offensive instincts but that's about it. Still you have to admit that they do a good job of keeping almost eveything to the outside, as have your D. Otherwise both games would have been more like 15-0.

DevsCupChamps
05-09-2006, 01:28 PM
The overtime loss I can handle and accept much more than letting in the tying goal with 3 seconds left after taking the lead with 20 seconds left and after winning the ensuing faceoff. Don't get me wrong guys. The Canes outplayed the Devils for half the game at least and were the better team. They deserved the win and I'm sure it was frustrating watching all those shots and opportunities and coming up empty. I realize the Gomez goal was lucky and I'm not taking anything away from you guys. Elias also hit the post at one point late in the game (I think) and that was a lucky bounce for you guys. We got those bounces against the rags. The better team that dominates the play creates those types of bounces with their effort and play so when I say "lucky" I don't mean that it was some divine intervention or aligning of the stars and no other reason.

I will admit our D is slow, for the most part. I think Martin and Rafalski have speed and good offensive instincts but that's about it. Still you have to admit that they do a good job of keeping almost eveything to the outside, as have your D. Otherwise both games would have been more like 15-0.

caveman
05-09-2006, 01:34 PM
True, Martin and Rafalski can skate. You can look though who seems to be on the ice when good things happen for the Canes -- Klee, Lukowich, Matvichuk. Luko had 27 minutes of ice time, second to Rafalski's 31. Klee -1, Luko -1. You guys seem to be almost playing 3 lines and 2 defensive pairings.

caveman
05-09-2006, 01:34 PM
True, Martin and Rafalski can skate. You can look though who seems to be on the ice when good things happen for the Canes -- Klee, Lukowich, Matvichuk. Luko had 27 minutes of ice time, second to Rafalski's 31. Klee -1, Luko -1. You guys seem to be almost playing 3 lines and 2 defensive pairings.

IceSaber
05-09-2006, 01:35 PM
More than once, I've said in this series - both ways - great defense! Last night especially. The D for the Devils cleared quite a few pucks where a Cane was waiting or approaching to tap it in. I'd say the Devils D did a great job in close to protect Marty or he'd have had quite a time with the Canes crashing the net. There were three guys in close a lot. I noticed the center was dropping back quickly to help on D, in spite of the cluster in front of the net..

I'm wondering if the game plan will be the same for game 3 or if Lavi will change the strategy and play a more defensive game on the road.

IceSaber
05-09-2006, 01:35 PM
More than once, I've said in this series - both ways - great defense! Last night especially. The D for the Devils cleared quite a few pucks where a Cane was waiting or approaching to tap it in. I'd say the Devils D did a great job in close to protect Marty or he'd have had quite a time with the Canes crashing the net. There were three guys in close a lot. I noticed the center was dropping back quickly to help on D, in spite of the cluster in front of the net..

I'm wondering if the game plan will be the same for game 3 or if Lavi will change the strategy and play a more defensive game on the road.

caveman
05-09-2006, 01:41 PM
The overtime loss I can handle and accept much more than letting in the tying goal with 3 seconds left after taking the lead with 20 seconds left and after winning the ensuing faceoff.

We were 74 seconds (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/recaps/2002/06/08/car_det/) away from a 2 games to 1 lead in the SCFs when Hull gets a "weird deflection" goal for Detroit to tie it, after the Canes took the lead with about 12 minutes left, and we went on to lose the 3rd-longest SCF game in history. I don't think we're talking apples and oranges, we're at least talking the same kind of fruit. Maybe Braeburn and Fuji. The tying goal in the Montreal game we're talking about came with the extra attacker, after coming back from a 3-0 deficit with 4 straight goals, only to lose the lead by giving up goals 36 seconds apart late in the 3rd period.

I don't think the Devils are done, hardly. Big-time veterans with their names on lots of shiny silver objects.

caveman
05-09-2006, 01:41 PM
The overtime loss I can handle and accept much more than letting in the tying goal with 3 seconds left after taking the lead with 20 seconds left and after winning the ensuing faceoff.

We were 74 seconds (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/recaps/2002/06/08/car_det/) away from a 2 games to 1 lead in the SCFs when Hull gets a "weird deflection" goal for Detroit to tie it, after the Canes took the lead with about 12 minutes left, and we went on to lose the 3rd-longest SCF game in history. I don't think we're talking apples and oranges, we're at least talking the same kind of fruit. Maybe Braeburn and Fuji. The tying goal in the Montreal game we're talking about came with the extra attacker, after coming back from a 3-0 deficit with 4 straight goals, only to lose the lead by giving up goals 36 seconds apart late in the 3rd period.

I don't think the Devils are done, hardly. Big-time veterans with their names on lots of shiny silver objects.

DevsCupChamps
05-09-2006, 01:42 PM
If it ain't broke don't fix it. I think Laviolet will continue with the same strategy that has worked in both games. Throw as much rubber at Brodeur as possible and pressure the puck-handler at every turn. The way the Canes pressure the Devils when they have the puck is the biggest reason why the have played so well against them. It seems that every battle for a loose puck and along the boards is won by the Canes. That is an indication of hard work and mental sharpness. The Devils have yet to even remotely match that work and sharpness. If they do this will be a series, if they can't or won't, its over.

I definately would have prefered to see Martin out there with Rafi in the closing seconds. Luko was slow reacting to the puck which resulted in keeping the puck in deep and then he let Staal stand at the net in front of him. Had Whitey been in there, I think Staal would have been on his butt which is what needed to happen there. A penalty in that situation, with about 5 seconds left is not something I would have complained about.

DevsCupChamps
05-09-2006, 01:42 PM
If it ain't broke don't fix it. I think Laviolet will continue with the same strategy that has worked in both games. Throw as much rubber at Brodeur as possible and pressure the puck-handler at every turn. The way the Canes pressure the Devils when they have the puck is the biggest reason why the have played so well against them. It seems that every battle for a loose puck and along the boards is won by the Canes. That is an indication of hard work and mental sharpness. The Devils have yet to even remotely match that work and sharpness. If they do this will be a series, if they can't or won't, its over.

I definately would have prefered to see Martin out there with Rafi in the closing seconds. Luko was slow reacting to the puck which resulted in keeping the puck in deep and then he let Staal stand at the net in front of him. Had Whitey been in there, I think Staal would have been on his butt which is what needed to happen there. A penalty in that situation, with about 5 seconds left is not something I would have complained about.

e2ipiand1
05-09-2006, 01:45 PM
A couple Devils fans who posted on tsn.ca wanted to know why Lukowich didn't tackle Staal and take the penalty. I was wondering the same thing.

e2ipiand1
05-09-2006, 01:45 PM
A couple Devils fans who posted on tsn.ca wanted to know why Lukowich didn't tackle Staal and take the penalty. I was wondering the same thing.

DevsCupChamps
05-09-2006, 01:45 PM
We were 74 seconds (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/recaps/2002/06/08/car_det/) away from a 2 games to 1 lead in the SCFs when Hull gets a "weird deflection" goal for Detroit to tie it, after the Canes took the lead with about 12 minutes left, and we went on to lose the 3rd-longest SCF game in history. I don't think we're talking apples and oranges, we're at least talking the same kind of fruit. Maybe Braeburn and Fuji. The tying goal in the Montreal game we're talking about came with the extra attacker, after coming back from a 3-0 deficit with 4 straight goals, only to lose the lead by giving up goals 36 seconds apart late in the 3rd period.

I don't think the Devils are done, hardly. Big-time veterans with their names on lots of shiny silver objects.

I stand corrected. You guys do know how it feels but its a fresh wound and there were 3 seconds left so you can imagine then how I feel. I definately think that Detroit game is what did you guys in. I can only hope my team's history, veteran experience, leadership, and will can be enough to at least try to put this game in the rearview mirror.

DevsCupChamps
05-09-2006, 01:45 PM
We were 74 seconds (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/recaps/2002/06/08/car_det/) away from a 2 games to 1 lead in the SCFs when Hull gets a "weird deflection" goal for Detroit to tie it, after the Canes took the lead with about 12 minutes left, and we went on to lose the 3rd-longest SCF game in history. I don't think we're talking apples and oranges, we're at least talking the same kind of fruit. Maybe Braeburn and Fuji. The tying goal in the Montreal game we're talking about came with the extra attacker, after coming back from a 3-0 deficit with 4 straight goals, only to lose the lead by giving up goals 36 seconds apart late in the 3rd period.

I don't think the Devils are done, hardly. Big-time veterans with their names on lots of shiny silver objects.

I stand corrected. You guys do know how it feels but its a fresh wound and there were 3 seconds left so you can imagine then how I feel. I definately think that Detroit game is what did you guys in. I can only hope my team's history, veteran experience, leadership, and will can be enough to at least try to put this game in the rearview mirror.

caveman
05-09-2006, 01:46 PM
Had Whitey been in there, I think Staal would have been on his butt which is what needed to happen there. A penalty in that situation, with about 5 seconds left is not something I would have complained about.

Staal did take a crosscheck from behind while scoring, and another from the front as he fell forward. But yeah, Colin would likely have thugged him good. Maybe Staal is strong enough to still score or get the puck over to the waiting Cane at the far post, maybe he isn't. Who knows... but if we want to play the "what if" card with injuries, either our best or second-best player, depending on your POV, is on the shelf as well...

caveman
05-09-2006, 01:46 PM
Had Whitey been in there, I think Staal would have been on his butt which is what needed to happen there. A penalty in that situation, with about 5 seconds left is not something I would have complained about.

Staal did take a crosscheck from behind while scoring, and another from the front as he fell forward. But yeah, Colin would likely have thugged him good. Maybe Staal is strong enough to still score or get the puck over to the waiting Cane at the far post, maybe he isn't. Who knows... but if we want to play the "what if" card with injuries, either our best or second-best player, depending on your POV, is on the shelf as well...

caveman
05-09-2006, 01:48 PM
A couple Devils fans who posted on tsn.ca wanted to know why Lukowich didn't tackle Staal and take the penalty. I was wondering the same thing.

Staal was too strong. Luko cross-checked him hard enough to pitch Eric forward (into an oncoming cross-check from the front), but he had the strength to still get enough wood on the shot to put it in.

Edit: also: http://www.nhl.com/hockeyu/rulebook/rule30.html

Strictly speaking there doesn't need to be a breakaway chance. No player between Eric and the goalie, foul from behind, take away a prime scoring chance, etc. I've never, ever seen a penalty shot called right in front of the net with the rule. I don't think the NHL has the concept of the "intentional foul" rule of the NBA, but it would be in the referee's discretion IMHO what to do were Staal obviously and deliberately taken down from behind, all alone in front of the goal.

caveman
05-09-2006, 01:48 PM
A couple Devils fans who posted on tsn.ca wanted to know why Lukowich didn't tackle Staal and take the penalty. I was wondering the same thing.

Staal was too strong. Luko cross-checked him hard enough to pitch Eric forward (into an oncoming cross-check from the front), but he had the strength to still get enough wood on the shot to put it in.

Edit: also: http://www.nhl.com/hockeyu/rulebook/rule30.html

Strictly speaking there doesn't need to be a breakaway chance. No player between Eric and the goalie, foul from behind, take away a prime scoring chance, etc. I've never, ever seen a penalty shot called right in front of the net with the rule. I don't think the NHL has the concept of the "intentional foul" rule of the NBA, but it would be in the referee's discretion IMHO what to do were Staal obviously and deliberately taken down from behind, all alone in front of the goal.

DevsCupChamps
05-09-2006, 02:16 PM
I'm not playing the "what if" game caveman. I'm just saying that Luko should have knocked him down, tackled him, anything to get him out of the crease. I don't mean to hurt him, I definitely don't condone that, I just mean he let Staal get in front of him and he didn't cross-check him or even touch him until the pass was on its way and by that time, it was too late. Staal made a hell of a play but, at the same time, Luko did not do his job.

DevsCupChamps
05-09-2006, 02:16 PM
I'm not playing the "what if" game caveman. I'm just saying that Luko should have knocked him down, tackled him, anything to get him out of the crease. I don't mean to hurt him, I definitely don't condone that, I just mean he let Staal get in front of him and he didn't cross-check him or even touch him until the pass was on its way and by that time, it was too late. Staal made a hell of a play but, at the same time, Luko did not do his job.

caveman
05-09-2006, 02:23 PM
That's the problem with a 2-minute minor penalty with 5 seconds left -- it's not really much of a penalty. In my opinion, if you, in the judgement of the referee, deliberately take a penalty that denies a scoring chance with under a minute remaining in the game, it should be a penalty shot. Obviously that's not a current rule.

I know that in basketball, if I have fouls to give (I coach/captain) at the end of a half or a game, I sure as heck tell my guys to foul rather than give up a good scoring opportunity. But if in the referee's opinion we deliberately foul with such a tactic, he has the chance to make the "intentional" foul call, awarding the player free throws even if they would normally not be awarded.

Definitely one of the "holes" in the NHL rulebooks.

caveman
05-09-2006, 02:23 PM
That's the problem with a 2-minute minor penalty with 5 seconds left -- it's not really much of a penalty. In my opinion, if you, in the judgement of the referee, deliberately take a penalty that denies a scoring chance with under a minute remaining in the game, it should be a penalty shot. Obviously that's not a current rule.

I know that in basketball, if I have fouls to give (I coach/captain) at the end of a half or a game, I sure as heck tell my guys to foul rather than give up a good scoring opportunity. But if in the referee's opinion we deliberately foul with such a tactic, he has the chance to make the "intentional" foul call, awarding the player free throws even if they would normally not be awarded.

Definitely one of the "holes" in the NHL rulebooks.

nccanes
05-09-2006, 02:29 PM
http://www.flightview.com/fvPublicSiteAT/FlightViewCGI.exe?qtype=gif&acid=H13531&depap=RDU

Off they go! :D

nccanes
05-09-2006, 02:29 PM
http://www.flightview.com/fvPublicSiteAT/FlightViewCGI.exe?qtype=gif&acid=H13531&depap=RDU

Off they go! :D

Guyute
05-09-2006, 02:31 PM
Godspeed boys!

Guyute
05-09-2006, 02:31 PM
Godspeed boys!

Mona
05-09-2006, 02:32 PM
Godspeed boys!

:)

Mona
05-09-2006, 02:32 PM
Godspeed boys!

:)

DevsCupChamps
05-09-2006, 02:32 PM
That's the problem with a 2-minute minor penalty with 5 seconds left -- it's not really much of a penalty. In my opinion, if you, in the judgement of the referee, deliberately take a penalty that denies a scoring chance with under a minute remaining in the game, it should be a penalty shot. Obviously that's not a current rule.

I know that in basketball, if I have fouls to give (I coach/captain) at the end of a half or a game, I sure as heck tell my guys to foul rather than give up a good scoring opportunity. But if in the referee's opinion we deliberately foul with such a tactic, he has the chance to make the "intentional" foul call, awarding the player free throws even if they would normally not be awarded.

Definitely one of the "holes" in the NHL rulebooks.

You have a good idea but I don't trust the referee to make that kind of a judgement call in the first place. I think they are terrible with that kind of stuff and I think the league has really been messing with their heads with this whole crackdown business. I like for them to call a tighter game but I don't think they are consistent within a game to say nothing of from game to game.

DevsCupChamps
05-09-2006, 02:32 PM
That's the problem with a 2-minute minor penalty with 5 seconds left -- it's not really much of a penalty. In my opinion, if you, in the judgement of the referee, deliberately take a penalty that denies a scoring chance with under a minute remaining in the game, it should be a penalty shot. Obviously that's not a current rule.

I know that in basketball, if I have fouls to give (I coach/captain) at the end of a half or a game, I sure as heck tell my guys to foul rather than give up a good scoring opportunity. But if in the referee's opinion we deliberately foul with such a tactic, he has the chance to make the "intentional" foul call, awarding the player free throws even if they would normally not be awarded.

Definitely one of the "holes" in the NHL rulebooks.

You have a good idea but I don't trust the referee to make that kind of a judgement call in the first place. I think they are terrible with that kind of stuff and I think the league has really been messing with their heads with this whole crackdown business. I like for them to call a tighter game but I don't think they are consistent within a game to say nothing of from game to game.

Guyute
05-09-2006, 02:35 PM
yeah, the intentional foul call would be interesting.... but I have to agree... there's already way too much discretionary leeway with the refs in this league, and we all know how that goes.

that's why we all have our "most hated" lists, right? it's why I check "tonight's officials" before every game. lol

otoh, I do agree that absolutely Creaming someone on the doorstep with a handful of seconds left in order to make Sure there's no chance at a goal... maybe something should happen more than a 2.

then again, being a man down in sudden death OT IS a bit of a penalty. /shrug

Guyute
05-09-2006, 02:35 PM
yeah, the intentional foul call would be interesting.... but I have to agree... there's already way too much discretionary leeway with the refs in this league, and we all know how that goes.

that's why we all have our "most hated" lists, right? it's why I check "tonight's officials" before every game. lol

otoh, I do agree that absolutely Creaming someone on the doorstep with a handful of seconds left in order to make Sure there's no chance at a goal... maybe something should happen more than a 2.

then again, being a man down in sudden death OT IS a bit of a penalty. /shrug

caveman
05-09-2006, 02:42 PM
Good points on the referees. I just don't like the implication that we can have Colin White in there thwacking everything in sight with a 2x4, not caring about the ensuing minor penalty. That's the kind of play that gets people hurt, whether intending to do so or not.

caveman
05-09-2006, 02:42 PM
Good points on the referees. I just don't like the implication that we can have Colin White in there thwacking everything in sight with a 2x4, not caring about the ensuing minor penalty. That's the kind of play that gets people hurt, whether intending to do so or not.

DevsCupChamps
05-09-2006, 04:57 PM
Good points on the referees. I just don't like the implication that we can have Colin White in there thwacking everything in sight with a 2x4, not caring about the ensuing minor penalty. That's the kind of play that gets people hurt, whether intending to do so or not.

Like I said, I am in no way advocating that whatsoever. All I mean is that I wouldn't have a problem with the defenseman tying up the forward or pushing him out from the front of the goal or holding his stick. I want to win, but I want to win more honorably than crosschecking someone in the mouth in the last seconds of the game to prevent a goal.

DevsCupChamps
05-09-2006, 04:57 PM
Good points on the referees. I just don't like the implication that we can have Colin White in there thwacking everything in sight with a 2x4, not caring about the ensuing minor penalty. That's the kind of play that gets people hurt, whether intending to do so or not.

Like I said, I am in no way advocating that whatsoever. All I mean is that I wouldn't have a problem with the defenseman tying up the forward or pushing him out from the front of the goal or holding his stick. I want to win, but I want to win more honorably than crosschecking someone in the mouth in the last seconds of the game to prevent a goal.

corylav
05-09-2006, 09:28 PM
Go get 'em boys!

corylav
05-09-2006, 09:28 PM
Go get 'em boys!

LostTexan
05-09-2006, 09:43 PM
http://www.flightview.com/fvPublicSiteAT/FlightViewCGI.exe?qtype=gif&acid=H13531&depap=RDU

Off they go! :D

That link doesnt work any more.

What airport did they fly into?

LostTexan
05-09-2006, 09:43 PM
http://www.flightview.com/fvPublicSiteAT/FlightViewCGI.exe?qtype=gif&acid=H13531&depap=RDU

Off they go! :D

That link doesnt work any more.

What airport did they fly into?

ontheglass
05-09-2006, 09:44 PM
This is a pivotal game for both teams. The Devs need it to stay alive, down 0-3 is too much to ask any team and all the pressure is on them. The Canes need the win to avoid NJ getting any "MO." A split in NJ is a must for the Canes and getting a "W" in the first game will be easier than getting it in the second.

I see the Devs playing the same game plan as last night. They are going to hit everthing in white, but that will wear them out again and they will run out of gas in the third. The Canes should expect it, weather the initial pressure and capitalize off of NJ mistakes to take the fans out early.

I'm not celebrating until we have 4 W's, but I really like our position.

ontheglass
05-09-2006, 09:44 PM
This is a pivotal game for both teams. The Devs need it to stay alive, down 0-3 is too much to ask any team and all the pressure is on them. The Canes need the win to avoid NJ getting any "MO." A split in NJ is a must for the Canes and getting a "W" in the first game will be easier than getting it in the second.

I see the Devs playing the same game plan as last night. They are going to hit everthing in white, but that will wear them out again and they will run out of gas in the third. The Canes should expect it, weather the initial pressure and capitalize off of NJ mistakes to take the fans out early.

I'm not celebrating until we have 4 W's, but I really like our position.

wmangum35
05-09-2006, 09:48 PM
The CAA will be loud tomorrow night and the Devils will probably come out determined. If they lose this game the series is pretty much over, but if they win this game it is a series again. Marty will be strong in net like he was for 59:57 of last game :mad:
I say this one goes to OT again. 3-2 Devils :angel: (how ironic) :evil:

wmangum35
05-09-2006, 09:48 PM
The CAA will be loud tomorrow night and the Devils will probably come out determined. If they lose this game the series is pretty much over, but if they win this game it is a series again. Marty will be strong in net like he was for 59:57 of last game :mad:
I say this one goes to OT again. 3-2 Devils :angel: (how ironic) :evil:

Caniac
05-09-2006, 09:49 PM
That link doesnt work any more.

What airport did they fly into?

Newark

Caniac
05-09-2006, 09:49 PM
That link doesnt work any more.

What airport did they fly into?

Newark

KRAZYCANE05
05-09-2006, 10:56 PM
Our good friend "JOKE" Berry Melrose said the Canes would sweep the Devils. Well what to say to that is LETS MAKE HIM RIGHT BOYS!!!!

GO CANES!!!

KRAZYCANE05
05-09-2006, 10:56 PM
Our good friend "JOKE" Berry Melrose said the Canes would sweep the Devils. Well what to say to that is LETS MAKE HIM RIGHT BOYS!!!!

GO CANES!!!

wmangum35
05-09-2006, 11:01 PM
Our good friend "JOKE" Berry Melrose said the Canes would sweep the Devils. Well what to say to that is LETS MAKE HIM RIGHT BOYS!!!!

GO CANES!!!
In that case I feel better about the Devils chances.....btw Colin White will play in game 3:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=Ag.hKnH9g9xx_mHFcy9SQyV7vLYF?slug=ap-hurricanes-devils&prov=ap&type=lgns

wmangum35
05-09-2006, 11:01 PM
Our good friend "JOKE" Berry Melrose said the Canes would sweep the Devils. Well what to say to that is LETS MAKE HIM RIGHT BOYS!!!!

GO CANES!!!
In that case I feel better about the Devils chances.....btw Colin White will play in game 3:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=Ag.hKnH9g9xx_mHFcy9SQyV7vLYF?slug=ap-hurricanes-devils&prov=ap&type=lgns

MeanGene
05-10-2006, 12:10 AM
Here were my plans for the day:

Meet at the RBC Center @ 5:00 a.m.
Leave for NJ
Get there about 1 or 2.
Tailgate and get ready for the game.
See Canes Play
See Canes win!
Come back home.

Already had my ticket and everything. But, nooooooooooooooooo. I have to work on Thursday morning. Now if we lose I will be mad becasue we lost. If we win, I will be mad because I was not there, although I will take the latter of the two options anyday!!

There is still a nice sized group going up, so hopefully they will cheer the Canes to victory!!

MeanGene
05-10-2006, 12:10 AM
Here were my plans for the day:

Meet at the RBC Center @ 5:00 a.m.
Leave for NJ
Get there about 1 or 2.
Tailgate and get ready for the game.
See Canes Play
See Canes win!
Come back home.

Already had my ticket and everything. But, nooooooooooooooooo. I have to work on Thursday morning. Now if we lose I will be mad becasue we lost. If we win, I will be mad because I was not there, although I will take the latter of the two options anyday!!

There is still a nice sized group going up, so hopefully they will cheer the Canes to victory!!

CANESFREAKinDET
05-10-2006, 01:23 AM
Oh MAN, this is the first REAL time, in either series I'm totally relaxed and pumped for the game!! I was so nervous in the past ones and never really got to cheer DURING the games, But I think no matter what happens here, I think our chances are great and I've got great vibes for the Canes!!

Look what we did over in Montreal!! :smoke: I think our boys have got all the motivation and the heart to do the same 2 game sweep over there in Jersey. Don't let the Devils dictate the play, boys!! Keep on em, like you did all the way to the last seconds! Never give up, and remember the mantra, "Whatever it Takes!"

GO CANES!!

KICK SOME DEVIL BUTT!! *gots my black LUCKY practice jersey that is 6-0 since wearing it, and not washing it since series' beginning* :spin: *dances*

CANESFREAKinDET
05-10-2006, 01:23 AM
Oh MAN, this is the first REAL time, in either series I'm totally relaxed and pumped for the game!! I was so nervous in the past ones and never really got to cheer DURING the games, But I think no matter what happens here, I think our chances are great and I've got great vibes for the Canes!!

Look what we did over in Montreal!! :smoke: I think our boys have got all the motivation and the heart to do the same 2 game sweep over there in Jersey. Don't let the Devils dictate the play, boys!! Keep on em, like you did all the way to the last seconds! Never give up, and remember the mantra, "Whatever it Takes!"

GO CANES!!

KICK SOME DEVIL BUTT!! *gots my black LUCKY practice jersey that is 6-0 since wearing it, and not washing it since series' beginning* :spin: *dances*

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 07:22 AM
Oh, I'm still completely nauseous. :sick:

Not sure how I'll make it through this day. They better keep me well entertained at my review session!!

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 07:22 AM
Oh, I'm still completely nauseous. :sick:

Not sure how I'll make it through this day. They better keep me well entertained at my review session!!

corylav
05-10-2006, 07:32 AM
I'm glad White's going to play ... he should add another element to this series. That being said, I wonder if Oleg will suit up tonight, given his (being generous) average play Monday.

Wouldn't Hutch or Babchuk be a safer bet at this point?

corylav
05-10-2006, 07:32 AM
I'm glad White's going to play ... he should add another element to this series. That being said, I wonder if Oleg will suit up tonight, given his (being generous) average play Monday.

Wouldn't Hutch or Babchuk be a safer bet at this point?

sticker
05-10-2006, 08:24 AM
White should change the game a bit. Tough physical D can change the feel of the game. As far as lineup changes for the Canes, not sure if we need to make any. This lineup has been working, though Laviolette is a master of finding the right lineup for each game.

Let's go CANES!

sticker
05-10-2006, 08:24 AM
White should change the game a bit. Tough physical D can change the feel of the game. As far as lineup changes for the Canes, not sure if we need to make any. This lineup has been working, though Laviolette is a master of finding the right lineup for each game.

Let's go CANES!

goalie33
05-10-2006, 09:24 AM
Oleg was not good on Monday, but he also only played three minutes. I'm not sure it's worth stirring the pot for the seventh defenseman right now.

goalie33
05-10-2006, 09:24 AM
Oleg was not good on Monday, but he also only played three minutes. I'm not sure it's worth stirring the pot for the seventh defenseman right now.

Staalgurl4ever
05-10-2006, 09:27 AM
Carolina is 2-4 in the Continental Airlines Arena in playoff history.

Staalgurl4ever
05-10-2006, 09:27 AM
Carolina is 2-4 in the Continental Airlines Arena in playoff history.

caveman
05-10-2006, 09:53 AM
Carolina is 2-4 in the Continental Airlines Arena in playoff history.

Yes but we have a 1-game playoff winning streak there. ;]

caveman
05-10-2006, 09:53 AM
Carolina is 2-4 in the Continental Airlines Arena in playoff history.

Yes but we have a 1-game playoff winning streak there. ;]

Buck LeMieux
05-10-2006, 10:39 AM
I kind of want to see Babs and his big slap shot out there for some reason for the power play if nothing else. He does not need to see big minutes but dress him instead of Oleg and spot him some minutes on the PP. Then knock in the rebound that Marty fancy pants gives up.

For some reason, Oleg has lost his edge and confidence recently. And, he's a former Devil and you never know how that plays on your mind. Just because my longtime married sister thinks he's Caviar on skates does not mean he should get the ice time :eek: .

Buck LeMieux
05-10-2006, 10:39 AM
I kind of want to see Babs and his big slap shot out there for some reason for the power play if nothing else. He does not need to see big minutes but dress him instead of Oleg and spot him some minutes on the PP. Then knock in the rebound that Marty fancy pants gives up.

For some reason, Oleg has lost his edge and confidence recently. And, he's a former Devil and you never know how that plays on your mind. Just because my longtime married sister thinks he's Caviar on skates does not mean he should get the ice time :eek: .

nccanes
05-10-2006, 10:44 AM
No offense to Babs, but I don't think our PP needs to be tweaked at this point. Who are you gonna bump?

I feel bad for Tver - wonder if he's been injured this spring because he just wasn't the same guy in the fall (imo) - and now he's just no confidence. A man in our section calls him Turnover-dovsky. :sad:

nccanes
05-10-2006, 10:44 AM
No offense to Babs, but I don't think our PP needs to be tweaked at this point. Who are you gonna bump?

I feel bad for Tver - wonder if he's been injured this spring because he just wasn't the same guy in the fall (imo) - and now he's just no confidence. A man in our section calls him Turnover-dovsky. :sad:

talkingcanes
05-10-2006, 10:44 AM
I don't think being a former Devil makes any difference. Commodore is a former Devil too. I don't think you mess with the formula until/unless it is necessary.

talkingcanes
05-10-2006, 10:44 AM
I don't think being a former Devil makes any difference. Commodore is a former Devil too. I don't think you mess with the formula until/unless it is necessary.

Guyute
05-10-2006, 10:46 AM
yep, mess with things As Little As Possible right now.

Guyute
05-10-2006, 10:46 AM
yep, mess with things As Little As Possible right now.

corylav
05-10-2006, 10:49 AM
yep, mess with things As Little As Possible right now.

Agreed ... just throwing it out there.

On another note, everything I'm reading right now is about Colin White coming back. So I was wondering what the best plan of attack is on a guy who's nursing a groin injury. I say we skate right at him hard in the neutral zone and make him decide which way he's going to turn to get back in his zone, then cut back and see just how well he can turn. Granted, don't skate *into* him, since he's probably their most punishing hitter, but I think taking it to him is the way to go.

corylav
05-10-2006, 10:49 AM
yep, mess with things As Little As Possible right now.

Agreed ... just throwing it out there.

On another note, everything I'm reading right now is about Colin White coming back. So I was wondering what the best plan of attack is on a guy who's nursing a groin injury. I say we skate right at him hard in the neutral zone and make him decide which way he's going to turn to get back in his zone, then cut back and see just how well he can turn. Granted, don't skate *into* him, since he's probably their most punishing hitter, but I think taking it to him is the way to go.

Buck LeMieux
05-10-2006, 10:50 AM
Agree in general on not changing the PP now. But, if you need or want to rattle it a little, put Babs in and ping one off Marty's birdcage and see if there is a rebound.

Look at what Chris Pronger did to Detroit with that big slap shot for Edmonton in round 1.

Buck LeMieux
05-10-2006, 10:50 AM
Agree in general on not changing the PP now. But, if you need or want to rattle it a little, put Babs in and ping one off Marty's birdcage and see if there is a rebound.

Look at what Chris Pronger did to Detroit with that big slap shot for Edmonton in round 1.

Guyute
05-10-2006, 10:51 AM
continue using our speed... he'll be forced to chase us, and yes, make decisions that will no doubt stretch his groin at some point. hopefully for his sake it's back to normal. as we all know, a groin is usually a problem for awhile, and a very easy thing to re-injure.

I don't think he has a choice at this point though. they're down 0-2 and back at home. I'd have to play too.

Guyute
05-10-2006, 10:51 AM
continue using our speed... he'll be forced to chase us, and yes, make decisions that will no doubt stretch his groin at some point. hopefully for his sake it's back to normal. as we all know, a groin is usually a problem for awhile, and a very easy thing to re-injure.

I don't think he has a choice at this point though. they're down 0-2 and back at home. I'd have to play too.

Buck LeMieux
05-10-2006, 10:52 AM
yep, mess with things As Little As Possible right now.

Agreed ... just throwing it out there.

On another note, everything I'm reading right now is about Colin White coming back. So I was wondering what the best plan of attack is on a guy who's nursing a groin injury. I say we skate right at him hard in the neutral zone and make him decide which way he's going to turn to get back in his zone, then cut back and see just how well he can turn. Granted, don't skate *into* him, since he's probably their most punishing hitter, but I think taking it to him is the way to go.

That's exactly what San Jose admittedly is doing to Pronger in their series against Edmonton - dump the puck into his corner and make him play it just to isolate him and make him play hard mucking the puck.

Buck LeMieux
05-10-2006, 10:52 AM
yep, mess with things As Little As Possible right now.

Agreed ... just throwing it out there.

On another note, everything I'm reading right now is about Colin White coming back. So I was wondering what the best plan of attack is on a guy who's nursing a groin injury. I say we skate right at him hard in the neutral zone and make him decide which way he's going to turn to get back in his zone, then cut back and see just how well he can turn. Granted, don't skate *into* him, since he's probably their most punishing hitter, but I think taking it to him is the way to go.

That's exactly what San Jose admittedly is doing to Pronger in their series against Edmonton - dump the puck into his corner and make him play it just to isolate him and make him play hard mucking the puck.

nccanes
05-10-2006, 10:53 AM
Agree in general on not changing the PP now. But, if you need or want to rattle it a little, put Babs in and ping one off Marty's birdcage and see if there is a rebound.

Look at what Chris Pronger did to Detroit with that big slap shot for Edmonton in round 1.

Or maybe it gets blocked and sets up a rush the other direction. No thanks.

I think Hedican (and Kaberle for that matter) have proven to be savvy D vets on the PP. I've always liked Hedi on the PP and I'm glad to see him getting that time. As long as they're healthy, I'm good.

nccanes
05-10-2006, 10:53 AM
Agree in general on not changing the PP now. But, if you need or want to rattle it a little, put Babs in and ping one off Marty's birdcage and see if there is a rebound.

Look at what Chris Pronger did to Detroit with that big slap shot for Edmonton in round 1.

Or maybe it gets blocked and sets up a rush the other direction. No thanks.

I think Hedican (and Kaberle for that matter) have proven to be savvy D vets on the PP. I've always liked Hedi on the PP and I'm glad to see him getting that time. As long as they're healthy, I'm good.

Buck LeMieux
05-10-2006, 10:56 AM
Agree in general on not changing the PP now. But, if you need or want to rattle it a little, put Babs in and ping one off Marty's birdcage and see if there is a rebound.

Look at what Chris Pronger did to Detroit with that big slap shot for Edmonton in round 1.

Or maybe it gets blocked and sets up a rush the other direction. No thanks.

I think Hedican (and Kaberle for that matter) have proven to be savvy D vets on the PP. I've always liked Hedi on the PP and I'm glad to see him getting that time. As long as they're healthy, I'm good.


And maybe the Devils are allowed to clutch and grab and you don't get a quality chance and the game ends without a shot that's hard for Marty to handle.

Buck LeMieux
05-10-2006, 10:56 AM
Agree in general on not changing the PP now. But, if you need or want to rattle it a little, put Babs in and ping one off Marty's birdcage and see if there is a rebound.

Look at what Chris Pronger did to Detroit with that big slap shot for Edmonton in round 1.

Or maybe it gets blocked and sets up a rush the other direction. No thanks.

I think Hedican (and Kaberle for that matter) have proven to be savvy D vets on the PP. I've always liked Hedi on the PP and I'm glad to see him getting that time. As long as they're healthy, I'm good.


And maybe the Devils are allowed to clutch and grab and you don't get a quality chance and the game ends without a shot that's hard for Marty to handle.

nccanes
05-10-2006, 11:02 AM
So far so good.

We'll see what happens, but at this point - I want experience.

nccanes
05-10-2006, 11:02 AM
So far so good.

We'll see what happens, but at this point - I want experience.

corylav
05-10-2006, 11:16 AM
putting this here, too, on top of the "Radio" thread:

JF just said *he* thinks Oleg will sit tonight and Joe will play.

corylav
05-10-2006, 11:16 AM
putting this here, too, on top of the "Radio" thread:

JF just said *he* thinks Oleg will sit tonight and Joe will play.

IceSaber
05-10-2006, 11:18 AM
So we're chucking speed right out the window I see...

IceSaber
05-10-2006, 11:18 AM
So we're chucking speed right out the window I see...

Buck LeMieux
05-10-2006, 11:18 AM
As I started out saying, if you are going to dress a defenseman and only play him three minutes let it be Babs who brings a big slapshot in the event you need to make the keeper face some artillery. He is not intended to replace Hedican, Kaberle, Commodore, Wesley etc. in regular duty.

Buck LeMieux
05-10-2006, 11:18 AM
As I started out saying, if you are going to dress a defenseman and only play him three minutes let it be Babs who brings a big slapshot in the event you need to make the keeper face some artillery. He is not intended to replace Hedican, Kaberle, Commodore, Wesley etc. in regular duty.

e2ipiand1
05-10-2006, 11:31 AM
I'm not worried about the refs swallowing their whistles in game 3. There were no penalties called in the third period of game 2 and the Canes dominated play.

e2ipiand1
05-10-2006, 11:31 AM
I'm not worried about the refs swallowing their whistles in game 3. There were no penalties called in the third period of game 2 and the Canes dominated play.

puck_it
05-10-2006, 11:33 AM
So we're chucking speed right out the window I see...

well that and deciding to bring it back home again.

puck_it
05-10-2006, 11:33 AM
So we're chucking speed right out the window I see...

well that and deciding to bring it back home again.

nccanes
05-10-2006, 11:48 AM
So we're chucking speed right out the window I see...

well that and deciding to bring it back home again.

3 minutes of speed??? That's all he's played in his recent games. I don't think that 3 minutes of Joe hurts us any more than 3 minutes of Tver.

To be specific, PL didn't say who would sit and he said "we've got some injuries" and said that they'd warmup 12 forwards and 7 D and go from there, but that could all be playoff-speak. I suppose JF's comments should be the clue, but I'll wait and see who shows up at face off time.

nccanes
05-10-2006, 11:48 AM
So we're chucking speed right out the window I see...

well that and deciding to bring it back home again.

3 minutes of speed??? That's all he's played in his recent games. I don't think that 3 minutes of Joe hurts us any more than 3 minutes of Tver.

To be specific, PL didn't say who would sit and he said "we've got some injuries" and said that they'd warmup 12 forwards and 7 D and go from there, but that could all be playoff-speak. I suppose JF's comments should be the clue, but I'll wait and see who shows up at face off time.

atlflames
05-10-2006, 11:51 AM
Anyone know who the refs are tonight?

atlflames
05-10-2006, 11:51 AM
Anyone know who the refs are tonight?

Mona
05-10-2006, 11:54 AM
Anyone know who the refs are tonight?

Blind ones that suck?? :beatup: :cool:

Mona
05-10-2006, 11:54 AM
Anyone know who the refs are tonight?

Blind ones that suck?? :beatup: :cool:

Guyute
05-10-2006, 11:55 AM
not yet.

Guyute
05-10-2006, 11:55 AM
not yet.

talkingcanes
05-10-2006, 12:06 PM
Referees: Paul Devorski (10), Don VanMassenhoven (21)
Linesmen: Brian Murphy (93), Tim Nowak (77)
Standby Referee: Mike Hasenfratz (30)

talkingcanes
05-10-2006, 12:06 PM
Referees: Paul Devorski (10), Don VanMassenhoven (21)
Linesmen: Brian Murphy (93), Tim Nowak (77)
Standby Referee: Mike Hasenfratz (30)

Canesluver
05-10-2006, 01:30 PM
Tripp's Tips are up:

May 10, 2006 - The Better Team Won Game 2

1)Thus Far Carolina Has More Depth - Anytime you're facing a hot goaltender - especially a future Hall-of-Famer like Martin Brodeur - the first goal is usually the biggest. Down 1-0 late in the second period at a very raucous RBC Center on Monday night, veterans Doug Weight, Ray Whitney, and Mark Recchi combined to solve the Devils' anchorman in magical fashion. On the powerplay, Weight gained the New Jersey blueline before threading a beuatiful pass to Whitney, a right-handed shot, in the slot. I was sitting next to former Carolina Captain Ron Francis at the time, and he said that virtually all players in the league would have shot in Whitney's position. Ron wouldn't have and Ray didn't. Instead, he completely fooled Brodeur and slid the puck to Recchi on the back door. Mark was acquired at the trade deadline because of his proven playoff success, and he delivered. He very delicately redirected Whitney's pass into the open net. It was a gorgeous play, and most importantly, it proved that Brodeur - while being spectacular - was not impenetrable. It was a huge goal that saw depth and experience shining on center stage.

"The game is all about confidence. I don't care who you are. Every player fights it from time to time. Mark, Ray, and I haven't had a ton of time to come together because of injuries over the last couple of months, so it's certainly nice to combine on a goal that allowed our team to get back in the game." -- Carolina forward and playmaker Doug Weight.


2)Carolina Made a Great Coaching Decision - With 20.7 seconds left in the game, down by a score of 2-1, Carolina head coach Peter Laviolette and his staff made a gutsy decision. They were not going to wait until they got the puck into the New Jersey end to lift goalie Cam Ward for the extra attacker. Consistent with his 'foot always on the gas' mindset, Laviolette had Ward firmly entrenched on the bench when the puck was dropped. I can tell you with absolute certainty that a lot of coaches would have gone with a more conservative approach, but Peter never hesitated. Canes' Captain Rod Brind'Amour told me last night here in New Jersey that Devils' center John Madden won the draw cleanly…..so cleanly that it was the perfect dump-in to the New Jersey end. With virtually no time elapsing, the puck was now in the corner where Brodeur couldn't get to it. Then - on a feed from Cory Stillman on the other side of the ice - Justin Williams got the puck to the front of the net, and that's where this guy named Staal took over. Why Devils' defenseman Brad Lukowich did not assault the Carolina phenom to the ends of the earth is beyond me (taking a penalty would when you consider the time left would not have been much of a penalty at all). The bottom line is that Carolina was the sharper team and beginning with the coaching decision to immediately lift Ward, the Canes reacted better at the most important time of the game than New Jersey did.

"I did not even think of it as a decision to be honest with you. There was 20 seconds left, and we had literally no time to waste. You might as well go for it then." -- Canes' Head Coach Peter Laviolette


3)Boy, has the Penalty Killing Been Top Drawer - New Jersey's powerplay was scorching against the New York Rangers in the opening round. Not only have the Canes been stellar playing shorthanded in the first two games against the Devils, they have been timely. A two-goal lead would have been potentially insurmountable on Monday night, and the Canes refused to let that happen in the middle period. Flashing back to Saturday afternoon, Carolina, leading 2-0, killed off three successive Devils' powerplays. A New Jersey conversion would have given the Devils life and truly gotten them back in the game. Moving forward to Game 2, leading 1-0, New Jersey had a couple of chances via special teams to truly grab hold of the game, culminating in a 4-on-3 advantage at the conclusion of the 2nd period and extending into the beginning of the 3rd. The Canes were ultra-aggressive in their puck pursuit, and did a great job of limiting the Devils' chances. While not one of the primary reasons for a franchise regular season, special teams have been a major cog in the wheel on the present play-off drive.

"The two biggest differences that I notice from the Montreal series is that we're clearing pucks with better efficiency and we're having a better series in the faceoff circle. Faceoffs are even more important in special teams situations, and thus far, we've been able to gain and sustain an edge." -- Carolina Assistant Captain Kevyn Adams

Canesluver
05-10-2006, 01:30 PM
Tripp's Tips are up:

May 10, 2006 - The Better Team Won Game 2

1)Thus Far Carolina Has More Depth - Anytime you're facing a hot goaltender - especially a future Hall-of-Famer like Martin Brodeur - the first goal is usually the biggest. Down 1-0 late in the second period at a very raucous RBC Center on Monday night, veterans Doug Weight, Ray Whitney, and Mark Recchi combined to solve the Devils' anchorman in magical fashion. On the powerplay, Weight gained the New Jersey blueline before threading a beuatiful pass to Whitney, a right-handed shot, in the slot. I was sitting next to former Carolina Captain Ron Francis at the time, and he said that virtually all players in the league would have shot in Whitney's position. Ron wouldn't have and Ray didn't. Instead, he completely fooled Brodeur and slid the puck to Recchi on the back door. Mark was acquired at the trade deadline because of his proven playoff success, and he delivered. He very delicately redirected Whitney's pass into the open net. It was a gorgeous play, and most importantly, it proved that Brodeur - while being spectacular - was not impenetrable. It was a huge goal that saw depth and experience shining on center stage.

"The game is all about confidence. I don't care who you are. Every player fights it from time to time. Mark, Ray, and I haven't had a ton of time to come together because of injuries over the last couple of months, so it's certainly nice to combine on a goal that allowed our team to get back in the game." -- Carolina forward and playmaker Doug Weight.


2)Carolina Made a Great Coaching Decision - With 20.7 seconds left in the game, down by a score of 2-1, Carolina head coach Peter Laviolette and his staff made a gutsy decision. They were not going to wait until they got the puck into the New Jersey end to lift goalie Cam Ward for the extra attacker. Consistent with his 'foot always on the gas' mindset, Laviolette had Ward firmly entrenched on the bench when the puck was dropped. I can tell you with absolute certainty that a lot of coaches would have gone with a more conservative approach, but Peter never hesitated. Canes' Captain Rod Brind'Amour told me last night here in New Jersey that Devils' center John Madden won the draw cleanly…..so cleanly that it was the perfect dump-in to the New Jersey end. With virtually no time elapsing, the puck was now in the corner where Brodeur couldn't get to it. Then - on a feed from Cory Stillman on the other side of the ice - Justin Williams got the puck to the front of the net, and that's where this guy named Staal took over. Why Devils' defenseman Brad Lukowich did not assault the Carolina phenom to the ends of the earth is beyond me (taking a penalty would when you consider the time left would not have been much of a penalty at all). The bottom line is that Carolina was the sharper team and beginning with the coaching decision to immediately lift Ward, the Canes reacted better at the most important time of the game than New Jersey did.

"I did not even think of it as a decision to be honest with you. There was 20 seconds left, and we had literally no time to waste. You might as well go for it then." -- Canes' Head Coach Peter Laviolette


3)Boy, has the Penalty Killing Been Top Drawer - New Jersey's powerplay was scorching against the New York Rangers in the opening round. Not only have the Canes been stellar playing shorthanded in the first two games against the Devils, they have been timely. A two-goal lead would have been potentially insurmountable on Monday night, and the Canes refused to let that happen in the middle period. Flashing back to Saturday afternoon, Carolina, leading 2-0, killed off three successive Devils' powerplays. A New Jersey conversion would have given the Devils life and truly gotten them back in the game. Moving forward to Game 2, leading 1-0, New Jersey had a couple of chances via special teams to truly grab hold of the game, culminating in a 4-on-3 advantage at the conclusion of the 2nd period and extending into the beginning of the 3rd. The Canes were ultra-aggressive in their puck pursuit, and did a great job of limiting the Devils' chances. While not one of the primary reasons for a franchise regular season, special teams have been a major cog in the wheel on the present play-off drive.

"The two biggest differences that I notice from the Montreal series is that we're clearing pucks with better efficiency and we're having a better series in the faceoff circle. Faceoffs are even more important in special teams situations, and thus far, we've been able to gain and sustain an edge." -- Carolina Assistant Captain Kevyn Adams

Night Train
05-10-2006, 01:36 PM
Somebody's got to win this game.

Might as well be us.

Night Train
05-10-2006, 01:36 PM
Somebody's got to win this game.

Might as well be us.

caveman
05-10-2006, 01:56 PM
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caveman
05-10-2006, 01:56 PM
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Buck LeMieux
05-10-2006, 02:09 PM
Somebody's got to win this game.

Might as well be us.

"Learn your cliches. Learn them and use them. Got a pencil?"
-Crash Davis / Bull Durham

:cool: Diggin' it.

Buck LeMieux
05-10-2006, 02:09 PM
Somebody's got to win this game.

Might as well be us.

"Learn your cliches. Learn them and use them. Got a pencil?"
-Crash Davis / Bull Durham

:cool: Diggin' it.

IceSaber
05-10-2006, 03:23 PM
I really like Tripp's tips - wish he had done them all season...no good quotes today, though...does nothing for the MOJO - need a good Trippism and a Where's Whitney.

IceSaber
05-10-2006, 03:23 PM
I really like Tripp's tips - wish he had done them all season...no good quotes today, though...does nothing for the MOJO - need a good Trippism and a Where's Whitney.

U2Fan101
05-10-2006, 03:46 PM
I'm a Devils fan from Devilsrule.com. Not that it really matters, but I thought I would share my opinions on this series if anyone cares, coming from a Devils fan.


Yes - the Devils were amazing at the end of the season.

Yes - the Devils swept the New York Rangers, which in all honesty, shocked the hell out of me. I honestly thought the Rangers would win.

Yes - the Devils were playing arguably one of the best games of hockey in the first series.

Yes - the Devils have Brodeur. However, he's not this great God that Devils fan believe him to be. In fact, I get reamed on my board when I talk about how Brodeur isn't as great as a goaltender as people say he is. Frankly, he's way overrated in my opinion. His numbers of his career happened because of a solid wall of defense in front of him, and the ever-annoying trap (to other teams). Sure, Brodeur is excellent, don't get me wrong, but he's overrated big time. You put him on a team with no defense and his numbers will be mediocre at best.

Yes - the Canes are much more balanced team the Devils.

Yes - the Canes are much faster on the ice than the Devils.

Yes - the Devils cannot keep up with the Canes right now.

After saying all of that, I do believe, as I did when the series started, that the Canes would and will win the series. I predicted five, but since I'm just a fan, predictions are meaningless. If the Devils don't win tonight, they will win game four. And then, of course, Canes will wrap up the series back in your town.

The one thing that the Devils have, that I don't know if the Canes do, because truth be told, I'm such a Devils fan, I really don't follow other teams, because, well I'm lazy, I don't have the time to, and I'm just frankly not interested. But, the one thing the Devils have a history of doing is falling behind, and if any team in the playoffs, or in the regular season can fix themselves consistantly, it is the Devils. That is why I believe the Devils will win one game. And just one game. And then the Canes will have their hayday and win the series.

Aside from that, I've gotta say that there are a lot of people on my devilsrule.com message board who don't understand the concept of hockey to the point that they think "Devils Rule! All other teams suck! Devils will win the cup."

No - the Devils will not win the cup this year, or in the next five years because the Devils' Dynasty is over. It's time to rebuild the team, and to be honest with you, Lou was a great GM for the Devils of the past, but now that we are in a new era of hockey, I'm not too sure if Lou will adpat to the changes or frankly, if he'll still be thinking 'Defense! Trap!'. It's not going to work, hell, teams have already found a way to penetrate the Devils style of play. For the first time in ten years, the Devils will have to be the one to conform to other team's play. Not the other way around.

Aside from my long rant about that, and every other nonsense I said, the Canes are a very solid team. The first game, well, that's a no-brainer. But the second game, my gosh, being up 2-1 with 20 seconds left in the game, and the Devils couldn't even hold onto the lead with 3 seconds left just shows Devils don't deserve it all. Something is really wrong with your team (not Canes, yours as in the team you like) when you blow a lead with 3 seconds left in a game.

*************EDIT*******The fact that the Canes scored with 3 seconds left in the game shows how much of a better team and how much hungrier the Canes are the Devils. In all honesty, it reminds me of the Devils of 1995. I really like how the Canes are playing, and I really have liked watching the two games. They are hungry and want it bad. The Devils just don't even show up. **********END EDIT************

That game to me was far more frustrating than the 6-0 loss. I think that is a worse way to lose than getting clobbared.

So, to wrap up....Canes in 5. Devils will win one, either tonight or game 4.

I've said my peace.

U2Fan101
05-10-2006, 03:46 PM
I'm a Devils fan from Devilsrule.com. Not that it really matters, but I thought I would share my opinions on this series if anyone cares, coming from a Devils fan.


Yes - the Devils were amazing at the end of the season.

Yes - the Devils swept the New York Rangers, which in all honesty, shocked the hell out of me. I honestly thought the Rangers would win.

Yes - the Devils were playing arguably one of the best games of hockey in the first series.

Yes - the Devils have Brodeur. However, he's not this great God that Devils fan believe him to be. In fact, I get reamed on my board when I talk about how Brodeur isn't as great as a goaltender as people say he is. Frankly, he's way overrated in my opinion. His numbers of his career happened because of a solid wall of defense in front of him, and the ever-annoying trap (to other teams). Sure, Brodeur is excellent, don't get me wrong, but he's overrated big time. You put him on a team with no defense and his numbers will be mediocre at best.

Yes - the Canes are much more balanced team the Devils.

Yes - the Canes are much faster on the ice than the Devils.

Yes - the Devils cannot keep up with the Canes right now.

After saying all of that, I do believe, as I did when the series started, that the Canes would and will win the series. I predicted five, but since I'm just a fan, predictions are meaningless. If the Devils don't win tonight, they will win game four. And then, of course, Canes will wrap up the series back in your town.

The one thing that the Devils have, that I don't know if the Canes do, because truth be told, I'm such a Devils fan, I really don't follow other teams, because, well I'm lazy, I don't have the time to, and I'm just frankly not interested. But, the one thing the Devils have a history of doing is falling behind, and if any team in the playoffs, or in the regular season can fix themselves consistantly, it is the Devils. That is why I believe the Devils will win one game. And just one game. And then the Canes will have their hayday and win the series.

Aside from that, I've gotta say that there are a lot of people on my devilsrule.com message board who don't understand the concept of hockey to the point that they think "Devils Rule! All other teams suck! Devils will win the cup."

No - the Devils will not win the cup this year, or in the next five years because the Devils' Dynasty is over. It's time to rebuild the team, and to be honest with you, Lou was a great GM for the Devils of the past, but now that we are in a new era of hockey, I'm not too sure if Lou will adpat to the changes or frankly, if he'll still be thinking 'Defense! Trap!'. It's not going to work, hell, teams have already found a way to penetrate the Devils style of play. For the first time in ten years, the Devils will have to be the one to conform to other team's play. Not the other way around.

Aside from my long rant about that, and every other nonsense I said, the Canes are a very solid team. The first game, well, that's a no-brainer. But the second game, my gosh, being up 2-1 with 20 seconds left in the game, and the Devils couldn't even hold onto the lead with 3 seconds left just shows Devils don't deserve it all. Something is really wrong with your team (not Canes, yours as in the team you like) when you blow a lead with 3 seconds left in a game.

*************EDIT*******The fact that the Canes scored with 3 seconds left in the game shows how much of a better team and how much hungrier the Canes are the Devils. In all honesty, it reminds me of the Devils of 1995. I really like how the Canes are playing, and I really have liked watching the two games. They are hungry and want it bad. The Devils just don't even show up. **********END EDIT************

That game to me was far more frustrating than the 6-0 loss. I think that is a worse way to lose than getting clobbared.

So, to wrap up....Canes in 5. Devils will win one, either tonight or game 4.

I've said my peace.

Guyute
05-10-2006, 03:52 PM
Wow, we now have 2 dr folks that actually talk hockey. how nice :)

Nice job U2, thanks for sharing your perspective.
As I've said, I'd be quite happy with a split in Jersey. I am fine winning it in 5 instead of 4. hehe

Guyute
05-10-2006, 03:52 PM
Wow, we now have 2 dr folks that actually talk hockey. how nice :)

Nice job U2, thanks for sharing your perspective.
As I've said, I'd be quite happy with a split in Jersey. I am fine winning it in 5 instead of 4. hehe

HF
05-10-2006, 04:07 PM
Wow. That was the most well thought out and constructive post I've seen in a while now from either side. Huh. I guess we'll let that one live ;)

HF
05-10-2006, 04:07 PM
Wow. That was the most well thought out and constructive post I've seen in a while now from either side. Huh. I guess we'll let that one live ;)

caniac369
05-10-2006, 04:12 PM
The fact that the Canes scored with 3 seconds left in the game shows how much of a better team and how much hungrier the Canes are the Devils.

:faint:
Thanks for giving us props. Sorry for the faint, but after last week...

You mind letting the yahoos that call themselves announcers over at OLN & NBC know that?

Crazy at work today (yes- I actually went to work after flying for over 7 hours this morning). But wanted to check in and say a big huge THANK YOU to everyone for putting up with my loud, crazy, happy, unsober antics on Saturday and Monday that have caused me to be called by Kat as the loudest girl in the NHL!! It was great to be back home for the weekend and I miss it all more now than ever!

BTW- to the guys who gave me the beer after the game on Monday... :beer:

:nanner: WHOO HOO!! GO CANES!! :nanner:

caniac369
05-10-2006, 04:12 PM
The fact that the Canes scored with 3 seconds left in the game shows how much of a better team and how much hungrier the Canes are the Devils.

:faint:
Thanks for giving us props. Sorry for the faint, but after last week...

You mind letting the yahoos that call themselves announcers over at OLN & NBC know that?

Crazy at work today (yes- I actually went to work after flying for over 7 hours this morning). But wanted to check in and say a big huge THANK YOU to everyone for putting up with my loud, crazy, happy, unsober antics on Saturday and Monday that have caused me to be called by Kat as the loudest girl in the NHL!! It was great to be back home for the weekend and I miss it all more now than ever!

BTW- to the guys who gave me the beer after the game on Monday... :beer:

:nanner: WHOO HOO!! GO CANES!! :nanner:

Alicia
05-10-2006, 04:25 PM
T-1 hour, 35 minutes...

Alicia
05-10-2006, 04:25 PM
T-1 hour, 35 minutes...

HF
05-10-2006, 04:57 PM
They just got called out of the locker room.
T minus 60 minutes.
*fretfretfret*

HF
05-10-2006, 04:57 PM
They just got called out of the locker room.
T minus 60 minutes.
*fretfretfret*

CANESFREAKinDET
05-10-2006, 05:45 PM
EEE so excited!!

I forget where I heard this, but I thought I heard that historically, in Round 2's...the winner of the second game in the series usually advances to the next round! I forget where I heard that and I'm agonizing right now, but that's definitely a great little tidbit to know, wish I could say it the right way...

We got about 15 minutes till gametime, so LET'S GO CANES!!

Let's make this series 3-0!!! :D :evil:

CANESFREAKinDET
05-10-2006, 05:45 PM
EEE so excited!!

I forget where I heard this, but I thought I heard that historically, in Round 2's...the winner of the second game in the series usually advances to the next round! I forget where I heard that and I'm agonizing right now, but that's definitely a great little tidbit to know, wish I could say it the right way...

We got about 15 minutes till gametime, so LET'S GO CANES!!

Let's make this series 3-0!!! :D :evil:

VandyCane
05-10-2006, 05:56 PM
For those of you with TWC, the program guide is showing this game available in HD on channel 291!! Woo-hoo for HD Canes hockey! :D :cool:

VandyCane
05-10-2006, 05:56 PM
For those of you with TWC, the program guide is showing this game available in HD on channel 291!! Woo-hoo for HD Canes hockey! :D :cool:

Caniac
05-10-2006, 05:58 PM
Yeah. Monday's game was on that same channel, the guide just never showed it.

Caniac
05-10-2006, 05:58 PM
Yeah. Monday's game was on that same channel, the guide just never showed it.

Guyute
05-10-2006, 06:01 PM
LET'S GET IT ON!!!!!!

Guyute
05-10-2006, 06:01 PM
LET'S GET IT ON!!!!!!

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 06:02 PM
Pardon me while I hurl. :sick:

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 06:02 PM
Pardon me while I hurl. :sick:

Guyute
05-10-2006, 06:03 PM
Ray didn't have much room.... but he Did show. :)

Guyute
05-10-2006, 06:03 PM
Ray didn't have much room.... but he Did show. :)

VandyCane
05-10-2006, 06:04 PM
Theeeerrrrrresss Whitney! :cool: :D

VandyCane
05-10-2006, 06:04 PM
Theeeerrrrrresss Whitney! :cool: :D

caniac369
05-10-2006, 06:04 PM
Stupid NHL.com radio..."the game you are tuning into has not yet started"... BU!!SH!T

caniac369
05-10-2006, 06:04 PM
Stupid NHL.com radio..."the game you are tuning into has not yet started"... BU!!SH!T

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 06:04 PM
Ray didn't have much room.... but he Did show. :)

THERE is (part of) where these ticket prices better be going next year!!

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 06:04 PM
Ray didn't have much room.... but he Did show. :)

THERE is (part of) where these ticket prices better be going next year!!

Alicia
05-10-2006, 06:05 PM
For those of you with TWC, the program guide is showing this game available in HD on channel 291!! Woo-hoo for HD Canes hockey! :D :cool:

Whee! We never get the HD broadcast but we've got it tonight! :D <---me, cheesin'

Alicia
05-10-2006, 06:05 PM
For those of you with TWC, the program guide is showing this game available in HD on channel 291!! Woo-hoo for HD Canes hockey! :D :cool:

Whee! We never get the HD broadcast but we've got it tonight! :D <---me, cheesin'

RowdyFan42
05-10-2006, 06:07 PM
Good luck tonight, guys.


(You're gonna need it. :P)

RowdyFan42
05-10-2006, 06:07 PM
Good luck tonight, guys.


(You're gonna need it. :P)

caniac369
05-10-2006, 06:07 PM
THANK YOU!! The stupid thing is finally working!!

:nanner: WHOO HOO!! GO CANES!! :nanner:

Big Joe is back in !?!?!

caniac369
05-10-2006, 06:07 PM
THANK YOU!! The stupid thing is finally working!!

:nanner: WHOO HOO!! GO CANES!! :nanner:

Big Joe is back in !?!?!

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 06:07 PM
Every TIME they have a player in the studio it freaks me out. I mean, I guess I just don't see other teams' players in suits often. That does NOT look like Knuble! And DiPietro looked weird as hell to me last night! :lol:

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 06:07 PM
Every TIME they have a player in the studio it freaks me out. I mean, I guess I just don't see other teams' players in suits often. That does NOT look like Knuble! And DiPietro looked weird as hell to me last night! :lol:

caneshockeychick
05-10-2006, 06:10 PM
GAME ON!!!!!!!!!

LET'S GO CANES!!!!!!!!!!!

caneshockeychick
05-10-2006, 06:10 PM
GAME ON!!!!!!!!!

LET'S GO CANES!!!!!!!!!!!

Caniac
05-10-2006, 06:11 PM
Wow, there are empty seats EVERYWHERE.

Caniac
05-10-2006, 06:11 PM
Wow, there are empty seats EVERYWHERE.

dakuwan
05-10-2006, 06:11 PM
Their stadium looks emptier than id expect. I'm guessing it'll fill up as the game goes.

dakuwan
05-10-2006, 06:11 PM
Their stadium looks emptier than id expect. I'm guessing it'll fill up as the game goes.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 06:13 PM
Yeah, it's a 7pm game. In NJ traffic. Half our crowd probably wouldn't be there yet, either.

Joe is in, Tver is out. Only 6 D.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 06:13 PM
Yeah, it's a 7pm game. In NJ traffic. Half our crowd probably wouldn't be there yet, either.

Joe is in, Tver is out. Only 6 D.

caneshockeychick
05-10-2006, 06:14 PM
&#@%$$(#^&@($%*

caneshockeychick
05-10-2006, 06:14 PM
&#@%$$(#^&@($%*

Guyute
05-10-2006, 06:14 PM
Nice D....

Guyute
05-10-2006, 06:14 PM
Nice D....

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 06:14 PM
THERE'S your lucky bounce, right there.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 06:14 PM
THERE'S your lucky bounce, right there.

brindy17
05-10-2006, 06:15 PM
Well, I guess we see now why Ray Whitney doesn't play defense (he can't clear the puck!!)

brindy17
05-10-2006, 06:15 PM
Well, I guess we see now why Ray Whitney doesn't play defense (he can't clear the puck!!)

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 06:15 PM
C'mon guys. Gotta take their crowd out of it!

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 06:15 PM
C'mon guys. Gotta take their crowd out of it!

dakuwan
05-10-2006, 06:16 PM
Wonder why Joe is in and not Tver. We're scared of changing icons, Ward not seeing Kam, etc, cause of the mojo yet they're changing players in and out.

dakuwan
05-10-2006, 06:16 PM
Wonder why Joe is in and not Tver. We're scared of changing icons, Ward not seeing Kam, etc, cause of the mojo yet they're changing players in and out.

caneshockeychick
05-10-2006, 06:16 PM
I was just thinking...they woke the crowd up...

Come on Canes...Quiet them back down!!!

Dang, where's a beach ball when you need it?!!!

caneshockeychick
05-10-2006, 06:16 PM
I was just thinking...they woke the crowd up...

Come on Canes...Quiet them back down!!!

Dang, where's a beach ball when you need it?!!!

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 06:19 PM
Is Cullen drinking a beer on the bench?! ;)

I'm assuming they just have brown water bottles (??) but it totally loooked like an old Michelob bottle, lol.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 06:19 PM
Is Cullen drinking a beer on the bench?! ;)

I'm assuming they just have brown water bottles (??) but it totally loooked like an old Michelob bottle, lol.

Guyute
05-10-2006, 06:20 PM
I was just thinking...they woke the crowd up...

Come on Canes...Quiet them back down!!!


no worries, their own team is pretty good at putting them back to sleep. ;)
crowd was already a good bit more quiet.. a couple of minutes after taking an early lead.

Guyute
05-10-2006, 06:20 PM
I was just thinking...they woke the crowd up...

Come on Canes...Quiet them back down!!!


no worries, their own team is pretty good at putting them back to sleep. ;)
crowd was already a good bit more quiet.. a couple of minutes after taking an early lead.

Caniac
05-10-2006, 06:22 PM
YES!!!!

Caniac
05-10-2006, 06:22 PM
YES!!!!

Guyute
05-10-2006, 06:23 PM
THE BACKHAND OF DOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!

Guyute
05-10-2006, 06:23 PM
THE BACKHAND OF DOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!

caneshockeychick
05-10-2006, 06:23 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

GO CULLEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

caneshockeychick
05-10-2006, 06:23 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

GO CULLEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Caniac
05-10-2006, 06:23 PM
YES!!!!

Caniac
05-10-2006, 06:23 PM
YES!!!!

ontheglass
05-10-2006, 06:23 PM
THERE'S your lucky bounce, right there.

Unforced, unneeded icing by Commodore, put that puck in our end. The "D" needs to play smarter or there'll be more bounces for NJ.

GOAL CANES, 1-1, OK boys, Play SMART.

ontheglass
05-10-2006, 06:23 PM
THERE'S your lucky bounce, right there.

Unforced, unneeded icing by Commodore, put that puck in our end. The "D" needs to play smarter or there'll be more bounces for NJ.

GOAL CANES, 1-1, OK boys, Play SMART.

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 06:23 PM
THE BACKHAND OF DOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!

Hell yeah!! I don't know if I've ever seen him score backhand (outside of the shootout)!!!

WOOOOOO!!!

SouthernHockeyChick
05-10-2006, 06:23 PM
THE BACKHAND OF DOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!

Hell yeah!! I don't know if I've ever seen him score backhand (outside of the shootout)!!!

WOOOOOO!!!

brindy17
05-10-2006, 06:24 PM
God, I really hope we can re-sign Cullen. I really enjoy watching him play.

brindy17
05-10-2006, 06:24 PM
God, I really hope we can re-sign Cullen. I really enjoy watching him play.

dakuwan
05-10-2006, 06:24 PM
Way to go Cullen.

<--- For that the avatar changes :D :D

dakuwan
05-10-2006, 06:24 PM
Way to go Cullen.

<--- For that the avatar changes :D :D

HF
05-10-2006, 06:24 PM
Okay, the NHL radio feed SUCKS tonight.
It's delayed, and seriously choppy.
I wanna go HOME dammit!

HF
05-10-2006, 06:24 PM
Okay, the NHL radio feed SUCKS tonight.
It's delayed, and seriously choppy.
I wanna go HOME dammit!

Caniac
05-10-2006, 06:25 PM
2-1

WOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Caniac
05-10-2006, 06:25 PM
2-1

WOOOOOO!!!!!!!

caneshockeychick
05-10-2006, 06:25 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WILLIAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

caneshockeychick
05-10-2006, 06:25 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WILLIAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!