Hasek wants to return to the Red Wings

[folgersnyourcup]

http://www.thehockeynews.com/en/headlines/detail.asp?id=16052&cat=954945254360

"The Detroit Red Wings may be flying high once again with The Dominator between the pipes, according to a published report.

According to a story in the Detroit Free Press, Dominik Hasek has spoken to the Wings about the possiblilty of a return to the NHL but has not come to any decision. Hasek retired at the end of the 2002 season after winning the Stanley Cup with Detroit.

"By no means has any final decision been made," Hasek's agent, Rich Winter told the Free Press Monday. "He really hasn't decided."

The 38-year-old Hasek has apparently been in talks with Wings general manager Ken Holland for about two weeks.

If Hasek, who won two Hart trophies as the league's most valuable player and six Vezina trophies as the top goalie, makes a comeback, it will leave the Wings with a plethora of goaltending.

Along with Hasek they will have Curtis Joseph, who signed a three-year, $24 million deal a year ago as well as more-than-competent back-up Manny Legace."

I bet Cujo is THRILLED.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

We'll take Hasek!!!! As long as he doesn't swing that stick at anyone else!!

[Shell]

very interesting if it is true! I guess he's bummed he's not allowed to play inline hockey in his own country anymore :roll:

[Turbulence]

Hell, forget Hasek, I want Legace. This kid should have been the starter last year and would probably be the odd man out if Hasek comes back since he is cheaper/younger/easier to trade than CuJo.
Can you imagine a Weekes/Legace tandem? That'd be the most steady and powerful in the league...
But I'm only dreaming. :spin:

[Jeff O Rocks]

With the temper pattern Hasek has been revealing lately, not sure how he would work out anywhere... :roll:

I know he is talented, but purposely pounding on someone else's head and pretty much putting them in intensive care????? :roll:

[Guyute]

I agree with Turby... let the wings take Hasek back, we'll take Manny. :D

[nccanes]

Have to say this doesn't suprise me a bit. Wonder how much $ Hasek would expect? Wonder how much the dude he pummeled will sue him for? :evil:

[nccanes]

From the ESPN article:

"It's Kenny's worst nightmare," one NHL general manager told TSN, referring to Detroit general manager Ken Holland. "What do you do with Hasek when you've got Curtis Joseph under contract for the next two years? You can't have $17 million worth of goaltending. Plus, Hasek hasn't played in a year and a half."


Wouldn't you think that Cujo would waive his no-trade clause if he was going to be in Hasek's shadow. Weren't the Detroit fans chanting "Manny, Manny" in some games as it was?

[Shell]

Red Wings GM confirms Hasek talks
TSN.ca Staff
6/24/2003

Detroit Red Wings general manager Ken Holland has confirmed that retired goaltender Dominik Hasek is considering a comeback.

On Monday, Hasek's agent told TSN that the superstar goaltender had contacted the Red Wings "several times over the past couple of weeks about the possibility of him coming back."

At first, Detroit management would not comment on Winter's claims but, on Tuesday, Holland admitted that it was true - Hasek was considering a return to the National Hockey League.

``Dominic is deciding exactly which direction he wants to go and hopefully I'll know very soon,'' Ken Holland told Detroit-area radio station WJR.

Sources told TSN that Hasek's return is a virtual certainty.

``If Dominic comes back it probably will be a sticky situation,'' Holland said. ''Obviously, a lot of teams right now are looking for goaltenders. At the same time, money is a real issue around the league.''

Detroit holds an option on Hasek for next season worth $8 million. If the Red Wings do not exercise the option, their former goaltender would become an unrestricted free agent, able to sign with any team - including a Red Wing rival like Colorado, which just lost goaltender Patrick Roy to retirement.

Detroit signed unrestricted free agent goalie Curtis Joseph last summer to a three-year, $24-million contract. The deal included a no-trade clause.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

I agree with Turby too....Legace would be awesome. Although I'd rather just make him the #1 and move on with our lives since we see what apparantly happens to Weekes if there is some dispute about where he stands. Of course none of it will happen, I'd imagine, since Detroit won't pay both Cujo and Hasek $8 million.

[folgersnyourcup]

I would love to see Hasek go to Colorado. I don't think hockey fans want to believe the Avalanche/Red Wings rivalry/battle for the top of the conference is over and with Hasek in goal for the Avs (or Cujo if things get really flipped around and Hasek ends up with Detroit) then the rivalry wouldn't have to end. With Abeischer as their goalie though I just don't see Colorado doing as well as they have done ever since they moved to Colorado. With Hasek or Cujo in net it would be very interesting.

[nccanes]

That's what I was wondering. If the Wings don't sign him, will he look elsewhere?

[SouthernHockeyChick]

I'd rather Colorado had a losing season, thanks. (sorry Bates fans)

[StormShaman]

Hell, forget Hasek, I want Legace. This kid should have been the starter last year and would probably be the odd man out if Hasek comes back since he is cheaper/younger/easier to trade than CuJo.
Can you imagine a Weekes/Legace tandem? That'd be the most steady and powerful in the league...
But I'm only dreaming. :spin:

We used to have Manny--in fact, he came down here with the Whale in 97. Hated it here, hated Mo, hated JR, got jerked around, *****ed in the press about getting jerked around, and left to win two cups with the Things.

I really don't think he'll be coming back here.

[Lady J]

Hell, forget Hasek, I want Legace. This kid should have been the starter last year and would probably be the odd man out if Hasek comes back since he is cheaper/younger/easier to trade than CuJo.
Can you imagine a Weekes/Legace tandem? That'd be the most steady and powerful in the league...
But I'm only dreaming. :spin:

We used to have Manny--in fact, he came down here with the Whale in 97. Hated it here, hated Mo, hated JR, got jerked around, *****ed in the press about getting jerked around, and left to win two cups with the Things.

I really don't think he'll be coming back here.


I'm sorry, but there's no way the Red Wings are going to jettison Legace, unless someone there loses their senses. If I were GM of the WIngs, I would have given Manny a lot more icetime last season anyway ( no insult to Curtis ). So if Curtis is willing to waive hos no -trade clause, where do you think he'll go?

:eek2: There are a LOT of Red Wings fans right now, salivating like Pavlov's dog at the thought of Hasek returning. I don't know how great of a deal that would be though. He's spotty in the performance department, just like our departed Arturs. He's either on, or he's not.

[Shell]

there is no way they can have both.. They are already lamenting that they can't sign Fedorov, Yzerman, Larionov, McCarty, et al.. then adding another $8 million won't help. hasek on Colorado would be pretty fun, lol.. except that I like Colorado.
I'm very curious how Cujo will do next season if he is there though. He went from being a god to being despised as far as the fan base went.How does that work on the psyche? I think he probably would be better off somewhere else.

[Shell]

I'm sure Cujo loved this big headline this morning while reading the Detroit News. classy.

Wednesday, June 25, 2003
Wings must dump Cujo to afford Dominator
Goalie dilemma adds to big decisions confronting team
By Ted Kulfan / The Detroit News

DETROIT -- While he races to sign potential free agents Sergei Fedorov and Darren McCarty before a July 1 deadline, Wings General Manager Ken Holland now has another dilemma: The team may soon have two $8 million goalies, but can only afford one.

All-World goalie Dominik Hasek, 38, who retired after leading the Wings to the Stanley Cup in 2002, now says he is interested in returning to the team.

The Wings, however, already have a goalie: All-Star Curtis Joseph, who signed a three-year, $24 million contract before last season. Joseph also has a no-trade clause, which means he can't be dealt without his consent.

"Never a dull day around here," Holland said Tuesday.

Holland said he has talked with Hasek and his agent, Rich Winter.

"I have spoken to Dom myself," Holland said. "Dom is deciding what he wants to do."

Hasek will have to decide quickly. The Wings hold an option year on Hasek's contract and need to renew that contract, worth $8 million, by Monday.

If they don't, Hasek would become an unrestricted free agent and could sign with anyone, including arch-rival Colorado, which just lost Patrick Roy to retirement.

"Dominik is weighing his options," Winter said. "He's deciding what is best for him and his family. There's a lot that goes into making a decision like that. He's considering it (playing)."

Here are some of the reasons Hasek is considering a return:

* He wants another Cup and realizes with the NHL facing a probable work stoppage after next season, rejoining the Wings would be his final chance.

* Sales of Hasek's "Dominator" clothing line would be spurred by his return.

* Hasek's two children, one in high school and the other in middle school, have reportedly had a difficult time adjusting to the Czech Republic culture.


Rest helps

Experts interviewed said the year away from the game would actually help Hasek.

"Short term, it will benefit Dominik greatly," former goalie and ESPN analyst Darren Pang said. "As much as he puts into the game, the work ethic he brings to the rink every day, he's going to be reinvigorated after being away that period of time. It can do nothing but help."

Others agree.

"This is a guy who probably feels he has a little more left to give," said Brian Engblom, a former player and current ESPN analyst. "The Wings are in position to, because with Manny Legace (back-up goalie), they can give Dominik time to get back early on if Dom needs it.

"Let's face it, it's all about the end of the season and the playoffs, and Dom will be ready," Engblom said. "Maybe I'm a little surprised he's thinking of returning, but he must have missed it."

If Hasek re-signs, the Wings will be forced to deal Joseph, 36, who signed with Detroit last season, but was criticized after the team was eliminated in the first round of the playoffs by Anaheim.

Holland said he's alerted Joseph, and Joseph's agent, Don Meehan, about Hasek's possible comeback.

Meehan wouldn't speculate on Joseph's future with the Wings.

"I don't think there's anything for us to address at this point," Meehan said. "They (the Wings) may have some difficult decisions.

"Curtis told me he's going to wait to hear from Kenny Holland and to see exactly what Kenny has in mind."

Attempts to reach Joseph Tuesday were unsuccessful.


Cujo might consent to trade

While Joseph has a no-trade clause, he would be expected to waive it for a trade to a contender. Before signing with the Wings, he considered offers from the New York Rangers and Philadelphia Flyers.

"You'd have a hurt, disappointed individual," Pang said. "It's a difficult situation. Here's Curtis, who had a disappointing ending in year one, anxiously awaiting to return for year two, highly motivated for a Stanley Cup run, which he came to Detroit for, and now he may not have the opportunity."

Because teams realize the Wings have to unload Joseph, his trade value would be diminished. There were reports Tuesday the Rangers might be interested in dealing high-priced and injury-prone center Eric Lindros for Joseph.


Many decisions

After settling the Hasek issue, Holland will still have plenty of work left.

Fedorov, McCarty, Steve Yzerman, Igor Larionov and Jason Wooley all become unrestricted free agents on July 1.

The Wings have pulled back their offer of $40 million for four years to Fedorov, 33, who wants $12 million per season.

McCarty and the team also are far apart on money.

While Yzerman, 38, has said he doesn't want to play for another team, the Wings are wary about spending $7 million to $8 million on a player who is coming back from a serious knee injury. If the two can't reach an agreement, Yzerman has indicated he probably would retire.

Larionov, 42, recently rejected the Wings $1 million offer and is seeking $1.5 million for next season. Wooley is expected to test the free agent market.

Holland also will pursue free agents. The Wings, in need of a physical presence on defense, are expected to make a major bid for Derian Hatcher, Dallas free agent and Sterling Heights native.

[drwFischerFan2]

The Wings affiliate radio station, Team 1270, just recently reported that the Wings have agreed in principle to a deal with Hasek, pending their ability to trade Cujo.

But I really don't know what to think about all of this. I don't want to just dump Cujo b/c the supposed next best thing came along. Hasek's an amazing goaltender, but he hasn't played in a year. This whole situation is giving me a headache. :crazy:

[Jeff O Rocks]

The Wings affiliate radio station, Team 1270, just recently reported that the Wings have agreed in principle to a deal with Hasek, pending their ability to trade Cujo.

But I really don't know what to think about all of this. I don't want to just dump Cujo b/c the supposed next best thing came along. Hasek's an amazing goaltender, but he hasn't played in a year. This whole situation is giving me a headache. :crazy:

I see your concern...and not to be catty, but that doesn't say much for the Wings' front office to throw Cujo away like that! :sad: Hasek retired and rode off into the sunset...and Cujo does his best and look at how he is repaid.. :roll: I know this is business...but these are people!!

[drwFischerFan2]

No, I completly agree that it's shoddy that they are just going to dump Cujo. I think that he played reasonably well during the playoffs, considering that majority of the team did not show up. I think Cujo is a good goalie, and person. It kind of ills me that they have such little confidence in him.

[Captain Slack]

If I were Cujo, I'd wave the no-trade and start looking around (like maybe at Philly). He's bound to get the blame for the Wings losing to the Ducks and I'd try to avoid that whole situation if possible.

[Shell]

I agree Slack.. and I do hope he winds up on Philly instead of the Rangers. I don't see why you would refuse to waive your no trade clause if it meant everybody hated your guts. Crappy situation. Sorry Fischer Fan, but if the wings do dump Cujo, I'd like to see them flop next year with a 6.00 GAA.

[drwFischerFan2]

According to the radio reports, Detroit has been having talks with Philly about Cujo. I also hope that he ends up in Philly, or anywhere as long as it's not NY. And Shell, I can understand where you're coming from, I would probably wish the same thing on Detroit if I wasn't a fan.

[Shell]

Thanks for the updates!

[Shell]

and Bowman's input:

Hasek's waffling no surprise to Bowman
Canadian Press
6/25/2003

TORONTO (CP) - Dominik Hasek's reappearance with the Detroit Red Wings wouldn't surprise Scotty Bowman.

Both quit after leading Detroit to the NHL championship a year ago and, while Bowman is comfortable in retirement, Hasek is itching to strap the goaltending pads back on again and his ex-coach can picture it happening.

``There's a lot to be worked out but I would say it's a pretty good guess,'' says Bowman, who was inducted Wednesday into Canada's Walk of Fame.

Bowman continues part-time work with the Red Wings as a consultant but he says he's not been involved in talks to land Hasek back to Detroit.

``They're in discussions right now,'' he said.

If Hasek returns, the Red Wings would have to talk Curtis Joseph into ditching the no-trade clause in his contract so they could peddle him.

``It's a big decision for them to make,'' said Bowman. ``They still have another five days to work it out.

``I don't think Hasek is interested in returning to play in another city. He'll want a guarantee he'll return with Detroit.''

Bowman also wouldn't be surprised if Detroit owner Mike Ilitch bankrolled an all-out effort to reclaim the Stanley Cup next season. Re-signing Sergei Fedorov would be necessary to achieve that goal, and picking up Dallas defenceman Derian Hatcher after he becomes an unrestricted free agent on Tuesday would be a formidable addition.

``The Fedorov group has not taken the most recent offer of four years,'' said Bowman. ``That's weighing in the balance.

``He's a vital part of their forward core. They're pretty decent on defence but, if they can acquire a defenceman who can play for a few years, I'm sure they'll be in the mix.''

Bowman, 69, the winningest coach in NHL history, won a record nine titles as a head coach.

``I enjoyed my first year away because I had a plan before I did it,'' he said.

He has no intention of returning.

``I had a couple of calls last winter, very exploratory,'' he said when asked if any teams have tried to coax him out of retirement. ``Atlanta called, mainly asking for info on Bob Hartley. It wasn't a formal offer.

``Calgary called and wanted to talk about different people in the business. Before we even started, I told them my coaching days were finished.''

Bowman will be in Peterborough, Ont., on Saturday for Roger Neilson's funeral.

``I go back 42 years with Roger,'' said Bowman, who when he was a scout for the Montreal Canadiens gave Neilson a part-time scouting job.

Bowman will golf in the annual charity tournament in Detroit of former baseball manager Sparky Anderson on July 20.

``I've been pretty busy but in July and August I don't have a lot on my plate.''

He used to clear his plate for games, and if he misses anything about his old job it's the intensity of the on-ice action as seen from behind the players' bench.

``You're in a 2½-hour window,'' he said. ``You're totally focused.

``You don't think of anything else. You're thinking about how you're going to handle certain situations.''

Bowman, more affable away from rinks than he normally was as a coach, was accompanied to the gala by his wife, Suella. He was humbled to be on the list of new inductees that included singers Shania Twain and Robbie Robertson, actor Mike Myers and model Linda Evangelista.

``We were thrilled when we got the call in March,'' he said. ``We didn't know a lot about it at the time.

``It's something that is growing quite a bit and it's exciting to go in with fellow Canadians. There's always a special bond among Canadians. This is a very prestigious honour.''

Harry Neale, the Hockey Night In Canada colour commentator, was to narrate Bowman's portion of the induction ceremonies.

The exclusive, six-year-old club of Canadians from entertainment and sport now includes 74 men and women. Bobby Orr, Gordie Howe, Jean Beliveau and Wayne Gretzky are the only others who made their names in hockey to have a star imbedded in the downtown sidewalks along Simcoe and Front Streets.

Bowman was sought out by Myers, the Toronto-raised comedian who left to become a Hollywood motion picture star.

``He's a big Leafs fan,'' Bowman said of Myers. ``His publicist told me he wanted to get my guarantee for Toronto to win the Stanley Cup.''

It was a brief but humourous conversation.

[folgersnyourcup]

I understood Hasek wanting to finally win a cup to go along with his six or so Vezinas but now he just seems plain greedy. Just leave it alone Hasek. You got your cup. There's no reason jump up and try to steal Cujo's chance. I don't think the Wings really have a choice in this matter though if Hasek wants to come back and play. They WILL sign Hasek and WILL trade Cujo somewhere. I don't think it would be any different if Cujo had lost in the 7th game of the Stanley Cup Finals instead of being swept in the first round. Hasek is Hasek... I think Cujo will probably wind up with the Rangers.

If that is the case and the Rangers get Jagr as well.......you can hate the Rangers (I do) but looking down the list of the players on that team, on paper, that team has the making of a dynasty. They've got to play with a little bit of heart though which is something no amount of money can buy.

[drwFischerFan2]

If Cujo goes to the Rangers then the Wings will probably have to take Lindros. :sick:

[nccanes]

6/26/2003

How serious are the Detroit Red Wings in their attempts to bring goaltender Dominik Hasek back next season? Serious enough that head coach Dave Lewis made a special one-day trip to Vienna, Austria last week to meet with the retired netminder, according to the Detroit Free Press.

While the Red Wings have admitted they are exploring the possibility of bringing Hasek back, a broadcast report out of Detroit claimed a deal has already been agreed to.

Detroit has until Monday to decide whether or not to pick up the $8-million option on Hasek for next season or he becomes an unrestricted free agent.

Lewis tells the newspaper that he spent half a day with Hasek in Vienna, saying only that the netminder "looks good".

[crazy4canes]

Terrible way to treat Joseph. :roll:

[Shell]

everything they have said has been terrible towards Cujo.. here is something else from today's free press:

Dominator vs. Cujo
June 26, 2003
TALE OF THE TAPE
VITAL STATISTICS

Dominik Hasek: 38 years old, 5-11, 168 pounds; catches with his left hand.

Curtis Joseph: 36 years old, 5-11, 190 pounds; also catches with his left hand, just not quite as often.

CAREER NUMBERS

Hasek: Played 12 NHL seasons with 288-189-80 record (.589) and 2.23 goals-against average; in the playoffs, he's 53-39 (.576) with a 2.03 goals-against.

Joseph: Played 14 NHL seasons with 380-279-87 record (.568) and 2.76 goals-against average; in the playoffs, he's 58-62 (.483) with a 2.51 goals-against (yes, he's four games under .500 after that Mighty Ducks sweep).

SALARY

Hasek: $8 million, if he plays.
Joseph: $8 million, if he stays.

NICKNAME

Joseph: Cujo, like the rabid St. Bernard in the Stephen King novel of the same name.

Hasek: The Dominator, a twist on the Arnold Schwarzenegger character who says, "I'll be back."

BOTTOM LINE

Hasek: Won memorable seven-game showdown with Patrick Roy en route to his first Stanley Cup.

Joseph: Lost four-game showdown with Jean-Sebastien Giguere en route to early summer vacation instead of his first Stanley Cup.

[1Irbegirlforever]

everything they have said has been terrible towards Cujo.. here is something else from today's free press:

BOTTOM LINE

Hasek: Won memorable seven-game showdown with Patrick Roy en route to his first Stanley Cup.

Joseph: Lost four-game showdown with Jean-Sebastien Giguere en route to early summer vacation instead of his first Stanley Cup.


Man, that is a rough way to talk about the guy. Of course, i'll bet most leafs fans are mad at him for leaving the leafs and are possibly enjoying this... :roll: I do feel pretty bad for him though.

[Jeff O Rocks]

6/26/2003

Serious enough that head coach Dave Lewis made a special one-day trip to Vienna, Austria last week to meet with the retired netminder, according to the Detroit Free Press.



Did he take him a cake with a file in it?????????? :crazy: :laugh:

[nccanes]

Red Wings exercise option on Hasek
TSN.ca Staff

6/30/2003

TSN has learned that the Detroit Red Wings have picked up the option they hold on the services of Dominik Hasek, clearing the way for the all-star goaltender to return to the NHL next season.

The Red Wings exercised the option- worth $8 million for the coming season- to prevent their former netminder from becoming an unrestricted free agent Monday night at midnight Eastern time.

Hasek played one season in Detroit, winning the Stanley Cup with the Red Wings in 2002. He announced his retirement that summer, and spent last season retired in the Czech Republic. Hasek is a two-time winner of the NHL's MVP award, and is a six-time winner of the Vezina trophy as the league's top goaltender.

With Hasek's contract now on the books, the Red Wings must decide what to do with Curtis Joseph, who has two years remaining on a contract that pays him $8 million per season, a contract that also includes a no-trade clause. Joseph was signed as an unrestricted free agent last summer.

It is widely believed that the Red Wings have been shopping Joseph, hoping he'll agree to waive his no-trade provision.

In the meantime, Detroit is about to watch former league MVP Sergei Fedorov test the free agent waters. The Red Wings have taken their offer of a 4 year contract worth $10 million dollars a season off the table, but negotiations are continuing to keep Fedorov in Detroit, where he has spent his entire 12 year NHL career.

The Red Wings are also trying to come to terms with veteran winger Darren McCarty and defenceman Jason Woolley, both of whom are scheduled to become unrestricted free agents July 1.

[guinevere]

I had a hunch that would happen -but then didn't eveyone. I mean, really- could Detroit afford to let Hasek go to a rival? Here's some rumors I got off of "Central Puck". No source noted but interesting to think about...

"Fedorov won't be resigned,Marchment apparently looks to be Sergei's
replacement.McCarty will return,Cujo could be headed to Boston for
Marty Lapointe.Hatcher appears to be a Red Wing,Woolley appears to
resigning as well."

Guin

[nccanes]

So, Hasek to Detroit. Hackett to Philly. And this comment out of Denver:

With the free-agent season now open, Lacroix said the team is unlikely to pursue a big-name player. He also said backup goalies David Aebischer and Phil Sauve deserve a chance to succeed Patrick Roy, who retired after last season.

``It's an issue of respect, and that's the way we operate,'' Lacroix said.



Where oh where does Cujo and his 8 mil go?

I hate it for Cujo, but Detroit??? 17 mil in goalies. :evil:

[Shell]

Hasek expected back
TSN.ca Staff
7/7/2003

The Detroit Red Wings will hold a conference call on Tuesday morning with the media, during which it is widely expected the team will announce Dominik Hasek's intentions to return to the NHL.

Hasek contacted the Red Wings over the weekend to make them aware of his decision.

Hasek's agent, Rich Winter, had no comment when contacted by TSN.

The conference call is scheduled to take place at 10:30 am et.

If Hasek decides to end his one year retirement, the Red Wings will attempt to unload one of their high priced netminders. Both goalies are set to earn $8-million next season.

Curtis Joseph, who was signed last year to replace Hasek, has a no-trade clause in his deal. Agent Don Meehan has refused to say whether or not he would waive it in order to give the Red Wings some more options.

Detroit has received trade offers for Joseph and team owner Mike Ilitch has said he would entertain offers for Hasek as well. General manager Ken Holland indicated last week that the Red Wings would be willing to take "somebody who's maybe making a little bit too much money in another market" as part of any potential trade.

[Shell]

Hasek confirms comeback
TSN.ca Staff
7/8/2003

Dominik Hasek confirmed the worst kept secret in hockey, that he plans to return to play hockey next season with the Detroit Red Wings.

Hasek's decision means the Red Wings will attempt to move one of their two goaltenders, most likely Curtis Joseph.

"Ideally, as quickly as possible, I'd like to get a goaltender moved," said Red Wings general manager Ken Holland. "That's easier said than done in the current financial environment. Both are very well paid, and I'm going to have to try to be creative with other teams to put something together."

Holland added he hopes to have the goaltending situation resolved prior to the start of training camp this fall.

While Holland would not say definitively that Joseph will be traded, Hasek made it quite clear where he expects to play next year.

"My decision, unfortunately, affects other people," said Hasek. "My desire is to play for the Detroit Red Wings... It's my goal and nothing else."

Joseph, who was signed last year to replace Hasek, has a no-trade clause in his deal. Holland says he has not asked Joseph or his agent to waive that clause, but he plans to speak with the goaltender on Tuesday regarding the future.

Detroit has received trade offers for Joseph and team owner Mike Ilitch has said he would entertain offers for Hasek as well.

Holland indicated last week that the Red Wings would be willing to take "somebody who's maybe making a little bit too much money in another market" as part of any potential trade.

[Shell]

This may make things interesting.. I have been wondering what would happen with this (and wondering if escaping the czech republic was part of his reason for un-retiring)

Police recommend Hasek be charged
Associated Press
7/25/2003

PRAGUE (AP) - Czech investigators suggest hockey star Dominik Hasek should be punished for hurting a player during an inline hockey match, a spokeswoman said Friday.

Having wrapped up a two-month investigation of the case, police say charges of bodily harm should be brought against Hasek.

The state prosecutor, who was sent the police report Wednesday, will now decide whether Hasek will be formally charged with causing bodily harm, an offence punishable by up to eight years in prison, police spokeswoman Ilona Kratochvilova said.

She said police based their decision on eyewitness accounts, and available medical reports from the hospital where the injured played was treated.

Police began investigating Hasek after a May 18 incident in his home town of Pardubice, where the Czech international and NHL goalie - skating for Bonfire Strida - collided with Martin Sila of SK Pardubice.

According to media reports, Hasek then knocked Sila down with a crosscheck to the back, sat on him and hit him in the neck several times with his stick.

Kratochvilova declined to provide details about injuries Sila had suffered.

Speaking to the media shortly after the incident, Hasek denied any wrongdoing. His representative, Roman Hozak, told The Associated Press on Friday that Hasek would like to have the case settled as soon as possible.

Hasek is a six-time Vezina Trophy winner as the NHL's best goalie, two-time Hart Trophy winner as the league's most valuable player, and was a 1998 Olympic gold medallist in Nagano.

He retired from the NHL in 2002, having led the Detroit Red Wings to the Stanley Cup, and currently lives in the Czech Republic.

Several weeks after the incident, Hasek startled hockey fans by announcing he would end his retirement and return to Detroit.

[Guyute]

oh man, how AWESOME would it be to have Cujo dealt, and Hasek tied up in redtape so he couldn't come back and play.

ROFL

[Jeff O Rocks]

oh man, how AWESOME would it be to have Cujo dealt, and Hasek tied up in redtape so he couldn't come back and play.

ROFL

:laugh: :spin: :beatup:

[lvscolencanes]

OHHH that is excellent news.... :evil:

[lvscolencanes]

Tuesday, May 20

Hasek apologizes, says he was attacked first

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Associated Press


PRAGUE, Czech Republic -- Former NHL goalie Dominik Hasek sent a player to the hospital after a bruising check during an inline hockey game, sparking a police investigation.

Ladislav Kopec, the president of the Czech Inline Hockey Association, said Tuesday that police were investigating a game between two local teams in Pardubice. In a statement carried by the news agency CTK late on Monday, Hasek said he was attacked first by Martin Sila without any reason.
"I am sorry if he was injured in the scuffle. If it's true, I wish him early recovery,'' Hasek said.

Kopec confirmed that Sila was hospitalized Sunday. He said the association's disciplinary committee probably would meet in about two weeks to discuss what happened.

Sila is suffering from a concussion, a broken nose and spinal injuries, according to The The Detroit News.



I thought those two commments were interesting. I wonder if it true, he Sila started it or not? Doubtful....

[Jeff O Rocks]

"I am sorry if he was injured in the scuffle. If it's true, I wish him early recovery,'' Hasek said.

Sila is suffering from a concussion, a broken nose and spinal injuries, according to The The Detroit News.





Let's see......Sila suffered all of the above at Hasek's hands or stick, and then he says if his injuries are TRUE????????????????? :crazy: :eek: :eek2: WTF??

[Stormbringer]

I thought those two commments were interesting. I wonder if it true, he Sila started it or not? Doubtful....

Very, regarding both the comments and Sila starting it. (Especially with that attitude Hasek is notorious for.)

[lvscolencanes]

My thoughts exactally, he isnt known a mild-tempered!! :mad:

;)

[puckin_A]

According to media reports, Hasek then knocked Sila down with a crosscheck to the back, sat on him and hit him in the neck several times with his stick.


if this is true he should NOT be let back in the NHL. McSorley hit someone
ONCE and he was not let back in.

[Stormbringer]

According to media reports, Hasek then knocked Sila down with a crosscheck to the back, sat on him and hit him in the neck several times with his stick.


if this is true he should NOT be let back in the NHL. McSorley hit someone
ONCE and he was not let back in.

Oh, I know...when I first saw the article about what Hasek supposedly (and knowing his notorious 'tude, more than likely) did, I was thinking "Looks like he won't be making any comebacks anytime soon.". Wish I had been right... :mad:

[Captain Slack]

Oh, I know...when I first saw the article about what Hasek supposedly (and knowing his notorious 'tude, more than likely) did, I was thinking "Looks like he won't be making any comebacks anytime soon.". Wish I had been right... :mad:

And it it was anyone else and he played for anyone other than the Red Wings, you probably would have been right. Imagine Archie or Weekes pulling that stunt! (Not that they would.) They've have been drummed out of hockey in a heartbeat!!! :mad:

[talkingcanes]

According to media reports, Hasek then knocked Sila down with a crosscheck to the back, sat on him and hit him in the neck several times with his stick.


if this is true he should NOT be let back in the NHL. McSorley hit someone
ONCE and he was not let back in.

I'm not defending Hasek and think he should be prosecuted, but the difference with McSorley is that he was an active player. Hasek was retired. Whether or not the Czechs choose to do anything about it still remains to be seen. If money and fame mean the same thing there that is does here................ :roll:

[puckin_A]

yes, I know there is a difference in that way. But I can't stand the guy,
so I want him to stay away!! :D

If he is charged, then they should consider that.

[Jeff O Rocks]

The foreign countries don't play when it comes to punishment, so the chances are pretty slim that we will see him in goal this season if they convict him... :roll: After all he did to that guy, he needs to sit somewhere other than a hockey bench and ponder what he did. :mad:

[Shell]

Looks like we'll find out in the next 2 weeks!

Radio Prague reports that a decision by a Czech Republic prosecutor about whether to charge G Dominik Hasek with bodily harm for an inline hockey incident is expected in the next two weeks. So, the Red Wings won't trade G Curtis Joseph before then. Hasek's agent, Rich Winter, told the Detroit Free Press he didn't think the incident would prevent Hasek's return to the NHL, but it is possible Hasek will be on trial or in jail instead of playing. After a two-month investigation, police recommended Hasek be charged.

[Jeff O Rocks]

If I was Cujo and Hasek can't return, I would be so tempted to tell them to shove it!! :mad:

[Guyute]

I wanted sooooo badly to have Cujo traided, then have Hasek stuck over there. rofl. damn... that would rock.

[Jeff O Rocks]

I wanted sooooo badly to have Cujo traided, then have Hasek stuck over there. rofl. damn... that would rock.

That would rock beyond belief!! Too bad Cujo hadn't already been traded before all these "issues" came up! :roll:

[1Irbegirlforever]

Tell me about it...i mean how full of himself can Hasek really be? I can't stand that guys or the wings. I DO feel sorry for Cujo though. I'm sure he feels a little used by now. :roll:

[talkingcanes]

Looks like he's off the hook :roll:


Hasek escapes Czech charges
TSN.ca Staff

8/8/2003

Dominik Hasek will not face criminal charges for an incident in which another player was knocked unconscious during an in-line hockey league game.

Reports out of the Czech Republic indicate the prosecutor in the case has halted the criminal investigation against Hasek and will face what is being called a modest fine at worst.

Hasek has already been fined the equivalent of $70 U.S. by the Czech in-line hockey association for his actions.

Under Czech law, Hasek could have faced up to eight years in jail if he had been charged and found guilty of grievous bodily harm.

"I am glad that the whole affair is ending," Hasek tells the Czech news agency CTK. "Now I will be able to fully focus on day-to-day life and the forthcoming ice hockey season."

Hasek recently announced his return to the NHL with the Detroit Red Wings following a one year sabbatical. There were concerns that his legal problems back home might affect his return to North America.

[Shell]

How ridiculous.. That is beyond getting off easy! Lessee, 8 years in jail or fine a multi-millionaire $70?
http://www.tridead.net/canes/images/smilies/ranting.gif

Hasek escapes Czech charges
TSN.ca Staff
8/8/2003

Dominik Hasek will not face criminal charges for an incident in which another player was knocked unconscious during an in-line hockey league game.

Reports out of the Czech Republic indicate the prosecutor in the case has halted the criminal investigation against Hasek and will face what is being called a modest fine at worst.

Hasek has already been fined the equivalent of $70 U.S. by the Czech in-line hockey association for his actions.

Under Czech law, Hasek could have faced up to eight years in jail if he had been charged and found guilty of grievous bodily harm.

"I am glad that the whole affair is ending," Hasek tells the Czech news agency CTK. "Now I will be able to fully focus on day-to-day life and the forthcoming ice hockey season."

Hasek recently announced his return to the NHL with the Detroit Red Wings following a one year sabbatical. There were concerns that his legal problems back home might affect his return to North America.

[Stormbringer]

:eek: Grrrrr... :mad:

[e2ipiand1]

According to the prosecutor, the player Hasek attacked had neither broken bones nor a concussion.

The $70 was the fine by the in-line hockey group. Hasek still faces additional fines by the court.

[guinevere]

I could be wrong here but I think he was only fined the equivalent of 95$ by the court.


Guin

[Shell]

more in-depth article now.. and I often go to the hospital for 3 days with no injuries. I like the ice cream.

No charges to be laid against Hasek

Citing lack of injury to the victim, the Czech prosecutor decided against pressing charges.

PRAGUE, Czech Republic (AP) - A Czech prosecutor declined to press charges against hockey star Dominik Hasek for a fight during an in-line skating hockey match, an official said Friday.

Prosecutor Lenka Strnadova said there was no evidence that the NHL goalie caused bodily harm to forward Martin Sila during the May 18 incident in Hasek's hometown, Pardubice.

"Criminal charges will not be pressed," Strnadova told The Associated Press.

Police had recommended last month that the Detroit Red Wings superstar face criminal charges for causing bodily harm in the fight, which prompted Sila to be hospitalized for three days.

Police based their recommendation on eyewitness accounts and medical records, but declined to be specific.

Strnadova said there was no evidence of bodily harm, but did not elaborate on how she reached her conclusion.

"I am glad the whole matter is over and I can fully concentrate on ... the forthcoming hockey season," Hasek said in a statement Friday.

Hasek's lawyer Pavel Jelinek said in a statement Friday that media reports about the incident were exaggerated.

"In fact, Mr. Sila did not have any fractures, not a broken nose, no teeth knocked out, no cuts, not a single scratch or bruise," Jelinek said.

If found guilty, Hasek would have faced up to eight years in prison.

Strnadova ordered that the case be treated as misdemeanour. Hasek now faces a maximum fine of 3,000 koruna ($95 US).

Sila can appeal Strnadova's decision, which can be overruled by the country's supreme prosecutor.

Hasek is a six-time Vezina Trophy winner as the NHL's best goalie and two-time Hart Trophy winner as the league's most valuable player. He was a 1998 Olympic gold medallist in Nagano.

He came out of retirement several weeks after the checking incident and returned to Detroit.

[Alicia]

LOL Shell!

[StormShaman]

Wonder how much the Wings paid them to drop the charges?

[nccanes]

Apparently the police didn't receive their payment. I hope the police don't appreciate being made to look the fool. Or are hospital records that difficult to interpret? :roll:

[e2ipiand1]

The other possibility is that the injured player figured he could get money from Hasek in a settlement (in lieu of spending eight years in prison) and bribed a doctor(s) to fake the medical reports.

[Jeff O Rocks]

Can you say HUSH MONEY??? and $$$$$$$$$$$$

Edited to say that the Hush Money was paid by HASEK...the *******!! :mad: He should be sitting in a cell instead of on the ice for the Wings!! :mad:

[nccanes]

I decided to cut and paste the article about the "attack" into this thread.

I guess the referee was paid by the attackee too?

Hasek investigated for stick attack

Canadian Press

5/20/2003

TORONTO (CP) - Czech police are investigating former NHL goaltender Dominik Hasek over a stick attack during an in-line hockey game that left another player in a neurosurgical ward with a broken nose and a bruised neck.

"I have never seen such an unbelievable, short-circuited behaviour in my 15-year career," Tomas Wuertherle, the game's referee told the CTK news agency.

The attack allegedly happened on Sunday in Pardubice, according to Czech press reports.

Hasek was playing as a skater for Bonfire Stirda when he and an opposing player, Martin Sila, collided. No penalty was called.

Wuertherle alleged Hasek knocked the player down with a crosscheck to the back, sat on him and hit him in the neck several times with his stick.

The referee said Hasek threatened other players who tried to pull him away.

In a written statement to CTK, Hasek blamed the altercation on what he described as Sila's intentional crosscheck to his kidneys when neither player had the puck.


"In any case, I regret that his alleged injuries happened in the following scrum. If that is the case, I hope he heals soon," Hasek wrote.

A police spokesperson said officials were investigating the incident.

[Shell]

McKenzie: Cujo saga set to intensify
TSN.ca Staff
9/25/2003

The relative calm of the Detroit Red Wings' preseason will come to a screeching halt early next week, because that's when goaltender-without-portfolio Curtis Joseph is scheduled to arrive in Motown.

The doctor who performed minor ankle surgery on Joseph in August has cleared him to begin skating on Tuesday, so that is when the Red Wings expect their $8 million-a-year-odd-man-out to don his pads and join Dominik Hasek and Manny Legace in one of the most uncomfortable goaltending controversies in NHL history.

For the media in both Detroit and Toronto, it will be like turning vampires loose in a blood bank.

Controversy.

Tension.

Uncertainty.

You couldn't make up stuff like this.

How will Joseph react? What will he say? How will Hasek handle it?

Knowing Joseph, he'll probably take the high road for public consumption, but those who really know him say he's extremely angry, bitter and disappointed.

And who can blame him? A year ago, he was like a lottery winner, signing a three-year, $24 million no trade deal with the defending Stanley Cup champions. Coming off a first-round playoff exit a year later, Joseph is guaranteed his money but little else. He also has no idea where or when he might end up with another NHL club.

And it's not as if the Red Wings are relishing the situation, either. Joseph's ankle surgery destroyed whatever chance there was of trading him quickly in the off-season. Unless Detroit's shellacking of Felix Potvin and the Boston Bruins on Wednesday night gets Boston GM Mike O'Connell to fall off Jeremy Jacobs' wallet, there is currently no market for Joseph.

The Red Wings are sure to expose Joseph in the preseason waiver draft, but there will be no takers. Not at $8 million a season. The Red Wings' only course of action then is to get Joseph in camp, get him in game shape and play him enough in the regular season to show the Bruins or New York Rangers or any other team that he could be the solution to an early-season goaltending problem.

Joseph will be lucky to get in four games a month. Legace, a good soldier who knows his place in Detroit, will just sit tight. Hasek will do his thing, but heaven help him and the Wings if he stumbles. How long it takes to move Joseph will depend on what goaltending leaks spring up around the league.

In other words, this may take awhile.

In the meantime, it's bound to be a media feeding frenzy, especially when you consider the Wings close out their pre-season schedule with a home-and-home against none other than Joseph's old team - the Toronto Maple Leafs, on Oct. 4 and 5.

[Shell]

Joseph to start...in Grand Rapids
Sports Ticker
10/20/2003

DETROIT (Ticker) - Detroit Red Wings goaltender Curtis Joseph, who is rehabilitating a surgically repaired ankle and soon may be looking for a new team, was assigned to Grand Rapids of the American Hockey League on Monday.

Joseph underwent surgery August 20 as doctors removed a bone chip from the back of the right ankle. He is expected to join the Griffins for Wednesday's and Thursday's morning practices and be available to play Friday against Utah.

The Red Wings have been trying to trade Joseph since six-time Vezina Trophy winner Dominik Hasek rejoined the team this summer after a one-year retirement.

The 36-year-old Joseph has two years and $16 million left on his contract, as well as a no-trade clause. But when Hasek announced his intention to return, the Red Wings picked up his $8 million option for the 2003-04 season.

Red Wings general manager Ken Holland hoped to deal Joseph before the start of training camp in September, but surgery backed up that timetable. Detroit also couldn't get rid of him in this month's waiver draft.

A 13-year veteran, Joseph left the Toronto Maple Leafs and signed with Detroit last summer to strengthen his chance of winning a Stanley Cup. But he was outplayed by goaltender
Jean-Sebastien Giguere in Detroit's stunning first-round playoff loss to the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim in a four-game sweep.

Joseph went 34-19-6 with a 2.49 GAA and .912 save percentage last season but was criticized for his inconsistency.

[talkingcanes]

You just gotta love it. I hope Cujo finds a team and then Hasek falls apart. They are losing tonight to the Habs 2-0 so far.

Theodore isn't playing for Montreal. Anyone know why? Unless he's injured I couldn't imagine they wouldn't play him against Detroit.

[Shell]

Wings recall Cujo; expected to play
TSN.ca Staff
10/26/2003

Curtis Joseph’s conditioning stint with the Detroit Red Wings' AHL affiliate, the Grand Rapids Griffins, lasted one game.

The Red Wings recalled Joseph on Sunday and expect to have him start in goal this Thursday when the club opens up a four-game road trip in Nashville.

On Friday, Joseph made 20 saves in his first minor-league hockey game in eight seasons, a 4-1 victory over the Utah Grizzlies. It was his first game since the Red Wings were swept in the playoffs last April.

Joseph underwent surgery August 20 as doctors removed a bone chip from the back of the right ankle. The Red Wings have been trying to trade Joseph since six-time Vezina Trophy winner Dominik Hasek rejoined the team this summer after a one-year retirement.

The 36-year-old Joseph has two years and $16 million left on his contract, as well as a no-trade clause.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

So where is Legace at this point? Just warming the bench/press box I suppose? That's not a fair way to treat him, IMO.

[nccanes]

So where is Legace at this point? Just warming the bench/press box I suppose? That's not a fair way to treat him, IMO.

Well, I guess they could dress 3 goalies and sit someone else? :evil: The Wings have to play Cujo to shop him. Guess it doesn't matter if Hasek or Legace is sitting in the press box.

[jhardman]

This is my favorite ongoing saga in hockey right now. Cujo sits on my bench on my fantasy hockey team as I wait to see who winds up with him. We should start a pool here with the winner getting a one night replacement gig for Tripp Tracy.

My hunch: I think he will wind up back in Toronto. Toronto's goaltending is looking really shaky and the fans will forgive him if the Leafs win. If he doesn't go to Toronto, he'll stay with Detroit because no team in the NHL is going to let Detroit off the hook for that contract - no team will go for the duration of it because of the CBA, and they'll only take on 2-3 million of this year's salary.

No way the Rangers or any other large market team go for it. the Leafs new GM will do it if he can get good terms on that contract and have Detroit pay all of the remaining years minus what the Leafs agree to pay this year. He's the GM on the hot seat. Hockey's Theo Epstein....

[Shell]

it's a favorite of mine as well..

as for the future.. hhmmm, I say Boston gets him with Detroit eating a huge portion of the contract. Or, Caps and Wings trade Jagr/Cujo

[Jeff O Rocks]

Wings trade Jagr/Cujo

Jagr would be a perfect Wing :sick: ....I already hate him, so trade him .. They need another gigantic head (literally) and ego to fill the spot that Feds left!! :mad: and it might make the Caps a little easier to like.. Go Bates!! ;)

[puckin_A]

I don't see him back in Toronto (I could be wrong of course)...but really,
Cujo is no better than Belfour. They both are getting up there in age for
a goalie.....both past their prime IMO.

the only one I want to see really fail is that stick beater, Hasek. He is
really the only player in the NHL I cannot stand.

[Shell]

Legace to start against red hot Canucks
Sports Ticker
11/3/2003

VANCOUVER, British Columbia (Ticker) -- The Vancouver Cancuks seek to extend their seven-game unbeaten streak and match an NHL record as they host the Detroit Red Wings on Monday night.

Vancouver improved to 5-0-2 in its last games with a 4-1 road victory over the Phoenix Coyotes on Friday.

Trevor Linden scored his third goal of the season 8:16 into the contest as the Canucks tallied first for the 11th straight game. Linden needs 26 points to become Vancouver's all-time leading scorer.

If Vancouver scores first Monday it will match the NHL record for most consecutive games scoring first at the start of a season. The record is held by the 1985-86 Philadelphia Flyers. Canucks center Brendan Morrison has three goals and six assists during a seven-game points streak and goaltender Dan Cloutier is 4-0-1 in his last five decisions since a 3-2 loss to Detroit on October 16. The Canucks are 5-0-1 at home.

That win over the Canucks improved the Red Wings to 3-0-0, but they are 2-5-1 since.

On Saturday, the Wings rallied from a two-goal deficit as they tallied four times in the second period before settling for a 4-4 tie against the Edmonton Oilers. Goaltender Manny Legace started for the third time in six games as Dominik Hasek and Curtis Joseph both were bothered by groin injuries.

Legace will start for the Wings with Joseph serving as back-up. Hasek has flown back to Detroit.

Brett Hull had a goal and an assist against Edmonton and needs 11 goals to tie Marcel Dionne for third place on the all-time list.

Since defeating Ottawa, 3-2, in overtime on October 11, Detroit is 0-4-1 on the road.

The Wings and Canucks split two meetings in Vancouver last season.

[Lady J]

Go Manny! :vamp: I'm so glad this goalie issue hasn't robbed him of ice time. :)

[Turbulence]

Just watch Manny out-play both Hasek and CuJo...just watch. He deserves the starting job...

Next year Manny is #1...next year...

[folgersnyourcup]

All is certainly not well in "Hockeytown"... :beatup: They are down 5-0 after the 2nd period to the Canucks! If not for some obscene saves by Legace in OT their last game, this would be their 5th straight loss! Perhaps the Wings feel like they are a better team than their record indicates (sort of like the Canes) but in a few of these losses they've just been out-everythinged. They had a crappy preseason as well and paired with their embarassing sweep by the Ducks they haven't done much of anything in quite awhile.

[cmw00]

Yeah who ever thought for a minute with Cujo, Hasek, and Legace that the wings would have trouble in net?

Atleast one of my preseason hopes is coming true so far. Hasek isn't getting it done yet, and detroits struggling a bit!

[Jeff O Rocks]

If Legace is in goal for our game here, do we still chant Cujo?? or is that just for Hasek?? :D

[Shell]

For me, it would only be for Hasek. I have a lot of respect for Legace..

Cujo to start against Flames
Sports Ticker
11/4/2003

CALGARY, Alberta (Ticker) -- The Detroit Red Wings try to halt a five-game winless streak on Tuesday night when they visit the Calgary Flames.

The Red Wings, who fell to 0-4-1 in its last five games with Monday's 5-1 setback in Vancouver, will start Curtis Joseph in net. Just hours after owner Mike Ilitch was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame, the Red Wings were blitzed by four second-period goals.

Brett Hull's third-period tally was the lone offense for Detroit, which has been let down by its defense during its skid. The Red Wings have surrendered 23 goals in the last five games.

This is the finale of Detroit's four-game road trip, which included a loss in Nashville and a tie in Edmonton.

Calgary enters off its second shutout victory of the season, Saturday's 3-0 triumph over Columbus. Defenseman Jordan Leopold scored twice, becoming the first Flames defender to score.

Goaltender Jamie McLennan needed to make just 15 saves for his his second shutout in seven appearances. He is 5-2-0 with a 1.36 goals-against average, mostly in place of the injured Roman Turek.

The Flames have yielded just seven goals in five home games.

Last season, Detroit won three of four games with Calgary. The Red Wings outscored the Flames, 13-2, in winning the first three matchups before a 4-1 loss in the finale.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Since this seems to be the catch-all Detroit thread:

Zetterberg suffers broken leg

TSN.ca Staff
11/4/2003

The Detroit Red Wings will be without forward Henrik Zetterberg for an indefinite period after suffering a broken bone in his leg in Monday night's game against the Vancouver Canucks.

According to Red Wings coach Dave Lewis, Zetterberg will be out for the next four to six weeks after being slashed by Canucks defenceman Bryan Allen in the third period of last night's game.

Zetterberg has two goals and seven points in 12 games with the Red Wings this season.

OK, I admit I was reading during the 3rd period of this game last night because the Canucks were OBVIOUSLY winning the game but how in the hell did I miss this happening? :crazy:

[Shell]

Cujo could be staying in Detroit
Canadian Press
1/7/2004

(CP) - Cujo may stay in Motown after all this season.

Detroit Red Wings general manager Ken Holland said Wednesday that goaltender Curtis Joseph may no longer be on the trade block because of his recent performances and the health of Dominik Hasek.

``Certainly my mindset on Dec. 1 was that we were going to go with two goalies (Hasek and Manny Legace) and I would try and really get Curtis moved,'' Holland said from Detroit. ``We put him on waivers and he cleared Dec. 5, I talked to a number of teams and tried to drum up a marketplace.

``Now another month of salary has been paid, Curtis has gotten an opportunity and he's played great, and Dominik has a groin problem that won't go away.

``Now I'm just not sure what direction we're going to go because of what has transpired in the last month.''

Either way, Cujo's recent run may have elevated his trade stock.

It's been a stunning turn of events. The Wings made it clear in early December that Hasek was their man and that Joseph had to go, banishing him to AHL Grand Rapids until further notice.

But a recurring groin problem once again put Hasek on the shelf and Cujo was recalled days after his demotion. After a 3-0 loss to Boston on Wednesday, Joseph is 8-3-1 since his recall and had won over the fickle fans at Joe Louis Arena.

``He's been Curtis Joseph, he's played just like the Curtis Joseph that fans saw in a Toronto Maple Leafs uniform,'' Holland said. ``We're winning and he's been a major part of that.''

And all the while trying to keep a positive attitude while hoping for the best.

``For a player that got up one day and found out that the organization wanted to trade him and then having been sent down - to come back and play the way he's played, I'm probably biased but I'm very, very proud of him,'' Joseph's agent Don Meehan said Wednesday from his office in Mississauga, Ont.

``He's handled it like a real consummate professional.''

In fact, Joseph has now appeared in more games this season, with 16 under his belt before Wednesday night, compared to 15 for Legace and 14 for Hasek.

The Wings could still move Joseph before the March 9 trading deadline, but that possibility seems less and less likely with each passing day that Hasek doesn't play.

Another key factor is that the Wings have already paid more than half of Joseph's $8-million US salary this season, meaning there may be less urgency to move him for financial reasons.

``As it stands, Curtis is our best goaltender today, and Dominik isn't healthy enough to even consider playing a game,'' Holland said. ``Certainly since we've gone half the season and paid over half of Curtis' salary and Dominik's groin problems persist, one of the options that possibly could happen here is that maybe we do carry all three goalies all year.

``All those factors weigh into what direction we go between now and March 9.''

Whereas a month ago it was crystal clear that the Wings had decided to go with Hasek and Legace as their 1-2 tandem, now Holland can't promise anything to anyone.

``For me to sit down with any of these guys and tell them what's going to happen, I don't know what's going to happen now,'' Holland said. ``I need to work the phones, watch the games, I have to see who's healthy and who's not healthy.

``We've made the best of the situation and Curtis has been outstanding. He's come in here since he came back from Grand Rapids and grabbed the job and helped us win a lot of hockey games.''

For Holland, it's been a trying experience. Once Hasek decided to come back after a one-year retirement, the Wings were put in a real bind.

``This is a very unique situation, and I don't know that there's a handbook out there that can tell you how to handle it,'' Holland said. ``I mean, going back to last summer, I was surprised as anybody to get the call from (agent) Ritch Winter about Dominik Hasek.

``You're talking about two highly paid, top-end goaltenders. And it's put Curtis in a difficult situation. But once Curtis got healthy and had an opportunity to play every night, he's played well and he's been a real pro.''

And he's got a new lease on life with the Wings.

[StormShaman]

Cujo could be staying in Detroit
Canadian Press
1/7/2004

(CP) - Cujo may stay in Motown after all this season.

(snip remainder of argh-ticle)

Yeah, it's amazing what winning will do. *snort*

I hope they get swept again.

[jhardman]

Cujo could be staying in Detroit
Canadian Press
1/7/2004

(CP) - Cujo may stay in Motown after all this season.

(snip remainder of argh-ticle)

Yeah, it's amazing what winning will do. *snort*

I hope they get swept again.

This time by Nashville.

[StormShaman]

Cujo could be staying in Detroit
Canadian Press
1/7/2004

(CP) - Cujo may stay in Motown after all this season.

(snip remainder of argh-ticle)

Yeah, it's amazing what winning will do. *snort*

I hope they get swept again.

This time by Nashville.

Oh. Hell. Yes.

Especially because I'll be hitting the Litter Box for at least one game.

[talkingcanes]

Hasek told to rest for two weeks

TSN.ca Staff
1/9/2004

The Detroit Red Wings have told goaltender Dominik Hasek to rest his injured groin for the next two weeks. (there just has to be a better way to say that!)

Hasek has been told to refrain from any physical activity such as skating and working out until January 21, when he will be re-evaluated. The team says if he is able to resume rehab on his injured groin by then, he will. If not, he will continue to rest.

"I feel terribly that I cannot play hockey, at least at this time," Hasek tells the Detroit Free Press. "I still believe I can be back and I can be back on the highest level, but don't ask me when, because I don't have this answer."

Red Wings coach Dave Lewis admits they are concerned Hasek might not be ready in time for the playoffs. That has led general manager Ken Holland to reconsider plans to trade current starter Curtis Joseph.

"It's a pretty real possibility we're going to keep all three goalies (Hasek, Joseph and Manny Legace)," Holland tells the Detroit News.
Since being recalled December 10, Joseph is 8-3-1.

"For me... I would be comfortable (keeping Joseph), it would be no problem for me," said Hasek. "We've been together for the last three months. You look at our stats, the Red Wings are first in our conference. I don't see any problem from my point. It's probably more a question for management for what they want to do."

Hasek has played in just 14 games this season and has been forced out of the lineup three different times due to the groin injury.

Last week, Hasek said he hoped to be skating with the team soon and expected to be back in the lineup this month. But over the weekend, he told the team that his injury felt worse than it had before.

[talkingcanes]

Wings brace for Hasek's return
Canadian Press
1/27/2004

(CP) - Detroit Red Wings coach Dave Lewis may soon be back to wondering what to do with three goaltenders.

Dominik Hasek has been out since Dec. 9 with a groin injury, leaving Curtis Joseph and Many Legace to share the job, with varying degrees of success.

``When it's time for (Hasek) to get on the ice, that's when it becomes a little more tricky,'' Lewis said Tuesday on a conference call. ``You have two nets and three goaltenders and you have to keep everybody sharp.
``That's when it becomes a day-to-day decision.''

Lewis said Hasek's condition would be evaluated this week.
``He has done almost nothing as far as activities - nothing on the ice, not a whole lot off ice,'' added Lewis. ``So we have to re-evaluate him to see how he feels. If he feels fine, we'll get him into better condition.''

Then the Red Wings can go back to wondering who their top goaltender is and which one will lead them in the playoffs.

Hasek, who turns 39 on Jan. 29, came out of retirement this season to rejoin the Red Wings, whom he led to the Stanley Cup in 2002.

That gave them two goalies making $8 million US apiece per season. Detroit failed in a bid to trade Joseph, who was put on waivers and sent to the minors. Legace was the backup.

But when Hasek was injured, Joseph returned and looked sharp, moving general manager Ken Holland to tell the Keswick, Ont., native he was off the trade market.

Now, Joseph has tailed off markedly from the 8-2-1 record and 1.79 goals-against average he put up in his first 11 games this season. He is 11-9-2 with a 2.42 average.

In his last start, a 5-2 loss in Phoenix, Joseph was replaced for the third period after allowing four goals on only eight shots. Legace started a 2-2 tie Monday night in Dallas.

Hasek is 8-3-2 with a 2.20 average this season while Legace, who earns $1.1 million, is 9-5-2 with a 2.14 average.

When Hasek returns, Lewis said goaltending coach Jimmy Bedard will spend extra time before practice with him and extra time after with the others to ensure each gets enough work.

But the question now is how many games Hasek will need to get ready for the post-season.

``Every athlete is different,'' said Lewis. ``He didn't play at all last year and he's played only 14 games this year.

``You don't want to burn him out coming off an injury like that. You want to be careful. I don't have a number, but I know that goaltenders like to play a lot to get back to their rhythm. Especially starting goaltenders.''

Lewis is to coach the Western Conference team at the NHL all-star game on Feb. 8 in St. Paul, Min.

[Shell]

Red Wings' Goalie Hasek Out for Season
33 minutes ago
By LARRY LAGE, AP Sports Writer

DETROIT - Red Wings goaltender Dominik Hasek will miss the rest of the season because of an injured groin, although he hopes to play again.

"That's it for the season," Hasek said Tuesday. "I cannot handle anymore. My groin, it cannot handle it. I hoped for two months it would get better every day. But it didn't get better, it got even worse last week"

The Red Wings have Curtis Joseph and Manny Legace in the net.

The 39-year-old Hasek ended his retirement after one year to return to Detroit, but he played in just 14 games before Tuesday's announcement. He was 8-3-2 for the Central Division-leading Red Wings.

"He really feels that he needs an extended period of time to give the groin a chance to heal," Red Wings general manager Ken Holland said from a meeting of GMs in Henderson, Nev.

Hasek has been the NHL's MVP twice and won the Vezina Trophy as the league's top goalie six times.

"I think in the summertime he's going to decide whether he wants to officially retire," Holland said.

Hasek retired after helping Detroit win the 2002 Stanley Cup, and the Red Wings signed Joseph to replace him. After the Red Wings were swept in the first round of last season's playoffs, Hasek returned, and the team tried to trade Joseph.

But no one wanted to take on Joseph's $8 million contract, and Detroit must be relieved to have him now. Joseph is 13-9-2 with a 2.48 goals-against average this season.

"We're very, very lucky that he's been a real pro through this," Holland said. "And luckily for us that nobody claimed him."

[Guyute]

Damn, if only the wings would've traded cujo!!!! :snaps fingers:

how nice of Detroit, they paid a goalie 8mil to come out of retirement, and play a few times. how can I get that gig?

[Guyute]

actually, I think Cujo should now say he'd like to be traded. even take a pay cut to do so. that would show'em. :D

[SouthernHockeyChick]

actually, I think Cujo should now say he'd like to be traded. even take a pay cut to do so. that would show'em. :D

Agreed but they would probably win the Cup with Legace anyway. :beatup:

[Lady J]

I have nothing thought provoking to add here, but I did want to say "Go Manny"! :)

[nccanes]

Oh my.

2/11/2004

DETROIT (AP) - Detroit Red Wings goaltender Curtis Joseph left Wednesday night's game against San Jose in the first period with a sprained right ankle.

Joseph was knocked over by the Sharks forward Jonathan Cheechoo, who tripped and fell into Joseph's legs in the first period. Joseph had surgery on Aug. 19, to remove bone chips from his right ankle.

It was Detroit's first game since Dominik Hasek announced his injured groin would not allow him to play for the remainder of the season.

That announcement made Joseph the Red Wings' unquestioned No. 1 goaltender this season. He was replaced Wednesday night by Manny Legace.

[goalie33]

Here's a really good article about Hasek being a quitter and a loser and a big disappointment to his teammates over time.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=kelley_jim&id=1732829

[Jeff O Rocks]

Here's a really good article about Hasek being a quitter and a loser and a big disappointment to his teammates over time.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=kelley_jim&id=1732829

After that assault, should anybody be surprised? :roll:

and I agree about Cujo asking to be traded. I said all along after they way they treated him when Hasek wanted to return, I would tell them to shove it.. :mad: I thought this snippet from the article would make everyone happy..and with loyalty like Chelios gives you, no wonder everyone wants to play for the Wings!! where is my baseball bat??? :mad:

Joseph, a decorated pro, along with his family has been forced to endure a great many indignities, some of which will not be easy to forget. Teammate Chris Chelios earlier this season went on the record to say it was unfortunate for Joseph but better for the team that Hasek was in goal. Now the Red Wings have to turn to Joseph to lead them in the playoffs after they both waived him, tried to trade him and exiled him

[rkbrasse]

That guy is a piece a work isn't he. I don't care how good he is let him rot in Europe. Maybe the roller hockey leagues will pick him back up :spin:

[Jeff O Rocks]

A co-worker of mine that grew up in Detroit brought this to my attention today. He DID pull for the Canes in the SCF.. ;)

Interesting story...Undercover Fan..

http://www.freep.com/sports/index.htm

[IcyRed]

A co-worker of mine that grew up in Detroit brought this to my attention today. He DID pull for the Canes in the SCF.. ;)

Interesting story...Undercover Fan..

http://www.freep.com/sports/index.htm

"The nameplate above Hasek's empty locker has already been removed."

That says a lot huh?

icy

[Jeff O Rocks]

"The nameplate above Hasek's empty locker has already been removed."

That says a lot huh?

icy

I agree...it says that Cujo (when healthy) and Legace can run with it..

[tommy]

Yeah, I'm not surprised either. I think even Legace could be a starter for about half, if not more, of the current NHL team rosters.

[RIO]

The Pang seemed to think very poorly of Hasek's erratic behavior, and said that there had been rather a lot of animosity between him and Curtis (not surprising). Pang also said something about Hasek acting as if he didn't really care to get back at all. I'm happy he's gone. Both he and Curtis were looking shaky this year, so between the two, I'd rather go with Curtis and his lack of an attitude problem then suffer Hasek's Napolean complex. Besides, I like the Curtis-Manny set up much better. It seems more harmonious.

[talkingcanes]

Friday, February 13, 2004
By Jim Kelley
ESPN.com

Subtlety and hockey aren't normally found in the same sentence, unless of course you're talking about a roomful of veteran players.


Take, for instance, the Detroit Red Wings, a well-traveled and experienced lot as evidenced in two noteworthy treatments of Dominik Hasek's "departure."


1. Most every player and person in management focused his public comments on Curtis Joseph and the strength of character he has shown. The way he handled Hasek's arrival, being sent to the minors (twice) and being recalled to save the day after Hasek couldn't (or wouldn't) play was not lost on any member of the Red Wings, not even those who favored Hasek as their No. 1 goalie.


The subtle message there was that players respect other players who suffer adversity of any kind and still put the team first. Detroit may have won a Stanley Cup with Hasek, but it will be difficult for the players to respect him after he walked away claiming his groin injury does not enable him to play in the manner in which he has become accustomed. Players and management both know now that Hasek, who has a history at this sort of thing, did little if nothing to prepare himself for the rigors of an 82-game season, and that his return to Detroit after yet another aborted retirement had little or perhaps nothing to do with helping the club win another Stanley Cup.


The fact that the Red Wings didn't offer a medical opinion to support Hasek's contention speaks volumes.


IN THE SLOT
Chirpin'
"Knowing what I know about his groin, I'm not surprised. It was a bothersome situation here with Dom. We even had one of his guys come over and treat him and train him. I'm not surprised, no.''

2. When players are upset, they have ways of letting it be known short of making a public pronouncement or even having a closed-door session with the offending party. So when they are upset with a selfish goalie, instead of venting in the press or having a sit down with him, they whizz a shot or two past his ear during practice. According to those in attendance, several players took Hasek's last skate as an opportunity to use the netminder's noggin for target practice.


"I would expect he's done in Detroit," said Red Wings general manager Ken Holland. Good thing, because it's unlikely his teammates would welcome him back.

[drwFischerFan2]

Hasek needs to get a frickin' clue. It's almost sad how clueless he is.
February 16, 2004
Dominik Hasek doesn't get it.

The Dominator is clueless.

First he tarnishes his whole image of being a Stanley Cup winner with the Red Wings by quitting on his team with a groin injury that was not serious enough to knock him out for the remainder of the season.

Now he won't go away.

One member of the Red Wings staff said they have seen more of Hasek since he made his "I'm quitting" announcement Tuesday than they had for months.

He was in his suite at Joe Louis for Wednesday's game against San Jose and in the locker room afterward. He visited the locker room - where his locker has been cleaned out - Thursday afternoon and then went to the team's wine-tasting fund-raiser that night.

And get this: Hasek watched Saturday's Avs-Wings game in the players' lounge in the locker room.

This is what he heard from ABC-TV analysts as they showed a photo of his empty locker.

n Gary Thorne: "It has been one of the strangest weeks you'll ever see in sports regarding Hasek. That's his locker. He is toast.''

n Bill Clement (former NHL player): "I must tell you if I was sitting in the room, for a player to self-diagnose and to say, 'Look - my groin, I don't think is going to be good for the rest of the season.' I would say he pulled a chute on our team. I really would.

That's an expression hockey players use. It's like bailing out on a team.''

n Thorne again: "He had the audacity, after he said he would not play for the rest of the year, (at) the next practice to ask to be allowed to go in the net and take shots. Detroit was flabbergasted. They had no idea what was going on.''

The TV analysts were told Hasek was downstairs watching, but they did not back off.

The team is perplexed, and they are not alone.

Why is Hasek still hanging around?

During his announcement Tuesday he said he still wanted to be around his teammates - technically they are no longer his teammates because he is not a team member. He said he'd be visiting the Czech Republic, where his family lives, but he still wanted to hang with the Red Wings - especially around playoff time.

Well, Hasek should not be surprised if he shows up one day knocking on the door at Joe Louis and he is not allowed in. He is now more than ever a possible distraction.

The Red Wings are Curtis Joseph's team now (when he recovers from a sprained ankle). The last thing Cujo needs is to be looking over his shoulder at Hasek, a man who has caused him nothing but grief since he decided to make a return to hockey after a year off. The team needs to rebuild its relationship with Joseph. Hasek's presence could interfere.

A team source said the players are cordial to Hasek, but they do not want him around. Players want guys in the locker room who can help them.

Hockey players are tough, the toughest. They fight through pain. By this time of the season nearly every player has a postgame ice bag taped to at least one body part. But they keep playing.

They would not want to let their team down. When it comes to character, the Red Wings have it by the bushelful.

Hasek made a commitment to return to hockey, then did not follow through. On Tuesday he said he wants to play next season - it will not be in Detroit - and, unbelievably, he said he will be in better shape.

His words: "I will be ready to be back and to prove I can play on the highest level and I'll be in better shape than this year.''

Again, he doesn't get it. The 39-year-old netminder should have been in the best shape of his life when he reported to training camp in September. He had taken a year off hockey and had all summer to prepare for his return. Had he worked himself into top condition, perhaps he would not have had a groin problem.

It appears that his groin was not holding him back as much as his lack of heart. He could have pushed himself harder, worked at it longer before throwing in the towel. He was working under a $6 million contract. It seems like he should take that into consideration. But obviously he didn't.

He's clueless and now he won't go away. He just doesn't get it.

(Paula Pasche covers the Red Wings for The Daily Oakland Press. E-mail her at paula.pasche@oakpress.com.)

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=10974723&BRD=982&PAG=461&dept_id=458071&rfi=6

[talkingcanes]

if he were a decent human being he'd retire, but since he's not retiring he gets full pay. nice to make $8 million and do absolutely nothing to earn it and alienate your teammates in the process. good work Dom :roll:

[nccanes]

Bizarre is too mild a word.

What is Hasek's contract status? They didn't sign him for more than this season right?

[goalie33]

As far as I know, Hasek's contract for this year was just a one-year option that may or may not have been left over from his pre-retirement contract (meaning if he didn't retire 2002-03 would've been the option year).

[VandyCane]

I lost alot of respect for Hasek when he pulled the same stunt in Buffalo a few years back. If I remember correctly the Sabres had just made the playoffs or were in excellent position to do so. He starts crying about the groin. Several doctors clear him to play and he basically says that he doesn't care what they think, he won't play. The guy is a complete basket case. He completely let his team down in Buffalo; he's doing it again, but unfortunately I don't feel the least bit sorry for Detroit. :evil:

[talkingcanes]

the NHL Live guys are dogging Hasek. they are saying Hasek is hanging out at practice every day and in the locker room before every game. they said Hasek has said that he and Cujo don't get along and haven't spoken all year. I don't remember reading that, but I don't doubt it. the tone of voice is not a friendly one toward Hasek and they think management should say "get out of the room and sit in the suite and stay away from practice." apparently, he's not even pretending to rehab.

what a total jerk :mad:

[nccanes]

TC, I listen to the NHL guys most days. This week I've been hit or miss due to work conflicts, but every time they utter his name it's as you describe.

I recall Brindy talking about missing "being with the team" last season after he was injured. He talked about not going on the road with them, but also how he didn't get to hang out with them in the same manner because they have to go on w/o you.

[talkingcanes]

nccanes......I catch them hit and miss most weeks, but this week I was pretty consistent in getting to listen. they were talking about the Kings and how the coach doesn't even let the injured players come to practice or be at practice. he doesn't want the team to see them there and have any ideas that they will be back or be available at any time. he wants the active players to realize they are the players that have to get it done and there is no one else.

they were laughing about how Andy would not be so careful with Hasek's feelings and would tell him to get out of his practice and his locker room!

[Alicia]

Tuesday, April 13, 2004

Associated Press
PRAGUE, Czech Republic -- Detroit Red Wings goaltender Dominik Hasek will return to the Czech Republic on Wednesday for groin surgery next week.

Hasek, 39, came out of retirement last year but played only 14 games this season because of the groin injury.

Red Wings spokesman John Hahn said Tuesday that Hasek was flying home Wednesday for the surgery.

Hasek joined the Red Wings before the 2001-02 season, led them to the Stanley Cup that season and retired soon after.

Before coming to Detroit, he won two MVP awards and six Vezina Trophies, given to the league's top goalie, during a nine-year stint in Buffalo.

Hasek also led the Czech Republic to a gold medal in the 1998 Nagano Olympics.

[Captain Slack]

Hasek had a clothing store?!?! :crazy:

Michigan mall sues Dominik Hasek

Associated Press

12/15/2004

NOVI, Mich. (AP) - Former Detroit Red Wings goalie Dominik Hasek is being sued for $496,000 US for the lease of his now-closed clothing store at a suburban Detroit shopping centre.

According to lawyers for Twelve Oaks mall, Hasek's Dominator Clothing company closed on Oct. 4 after missing three months of rent payments. Mall owners sued Dec. 8, seeking $496,000 in back rent plus lease payments through 2008, under a contract Hasek signed in September 2003.

Hasek signed a one-year, $2 million deal in July to play with the Ottawa Senators, but the season never started because of a management lockout over an unresolved labour agreement. Hasek is touring with a group of NHL players in Europe.

Last season with the Red Wings, Hasek had a $6 million contract, but returned $3 million after being sidelined by injuries.

''We felt it was in our best interests to move out,'' said Hasek lawyer William Cohen. He said Hasek plans to counter-sue. ''We'll play this out in court.''

[Captain Slack]

Hasek had a clothing store?!?! :crazy:

Michigan mall sues Dominik Hasek

Associated Press

12/15/2004

NOVI, Mich. (AP) - Former Detroit Red Wings goalie Dominik Hasek is being sued for $496,000 US for the lease of his now-closed clothing store at a suburban Detroit shopping centre.

According to lawyers for Twelve Oaks mall, Hasek's Dominator Clothing company closed on Oct. 4 after missing three months of rent payments. Mall owners sued Dec. 8, seeking $496,000 in back rent plus lease payments through 2008, under a contract Hasek signed in September 2003.

Hasek signed a one-year, $2 million deal in July to play with the Ottawa Senators, but the season never started because of a management lockout over an unresolved labour agreement. Hasek is touring with a group of NHL players in Europe.

Last season with the Red Wings, Hasek had a $6 million contract, but returned $3 million after being sidelined by injuries.

''We felt it was in our best interests to move out,'' said Hasek lawyer William Cohen. He said Hasek plans to counter-sue. ''We'll play this out in court.''

[Mona]

What were his advertisements like?? Buy from me or I will smash your head with my stick and give you a concussion!! :D

[Mona]

What were his advertisements like?? Buy from me or I will smash your head with my stick and give you a concussion!! :D

[puck_it]

i was thinking it was gonna be one the kinky side.... you know "dominator" :p

[puck_it]

i was thinking it was gonna be one the kinky side.... you know "dominator" :p

[Mona]

i was thinking it was gonna be one the kinky side.... you know "dominator" :p

you behave young man!! :p :p

oh so what he sells is only leather.. ;)

[Mona]

i was thinking it was gonna be one the kinky side.... you know "dominator" :p

you behave young man!! :p :p

oh so what he sells is only leather.. ;)