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nccanes
06-25-2003, 09:56 AM
Interesting question - posed only because of a very unfortunate occurance. If you are signing a 3.7 mil NBA contract - a contract that say you canNOT ride motorcycles - why do you go out and buy a brand new one of your own? (Not to mention not even bothering to get a motorcycle license.)

Anyway, here is the Durham column about it...


Columnist: Jay Williams' accident may be wake-up call

By Thomas Boswell : The Washington Post
Jun 24, 2003 : 10:03 pm ET

Last Wednesday, one day before he wrecked his new motorcycle against a pole in Chicago, perhaps ruining his NBA future, Jay Williams was back at Duke playing in pickup games and joking with his former coaches.

Little did he know he was about to become the national symbol of "What Can Go Wrong" when an athlete jeopardizes his career for the thrill of doing something exciting and normal, but also dangerous and -- probably -- dumb.

Throughout sports, every player and every team confronts the question of whether to treat their bodies as a perishable business asset or to "live a little." Lots of people take the risk of breaking bones on cycles, skis, snow mobiles or hang-gliders. But they seldom face the price -- in fame, accomplishment and dollars -- that Williams may pay for his joy ride. The Bulls already assume he'll miss next season. Beyond that, nobody knows.

"When we got the news, it hit home all the more because, just the day before, he was working in our camp, dunking on guys," said Duke assistant coach Chris Collins, son of former Wizards coach Doug Collins. "This is incredibly sad. All of a sudden, you see how fragile things really are. Now, he's just hoping he can have a life again."

Williams broke his pelvis and damaged ligaments in his left knee in what so far appears to have been a one-vehicle crash. Emergency surgery last Thursday was followed Tuesday by more extensive hip surgery. No one knows for sure whether Williams has career-threatening nerve damage, though, each day, his chances seem better.

"They're putting a plate in his pelvic area that will tighten everything up. In layman's terms, the (hip) area was ... stretched completely out," Duke Coach Mike Krzyzewski told a group of media Tuesday. "In a few days, the key thing will be the MRI (on) his knee ... (We) need a lot more information about the knee."

Williams' accident happened this past Thursday evening. By Friday, Krzyzewski was beside the player who led his team to the 2001 national title. He has kept up with every aspect of Williams' repair. He even sneaked into Williams' hospital room. "We got in the back door and up to see him." At first, Williams told the Duke coach he wondered if he was paralyzed. Then, very briefly, doctors wondered if Williams' leg had been without blood for so long that it might have to be amputated.

"The good thing is the timeline has gone from "paralyzed' to "amputation' to "I'm going to be OK. Now I've got to get these operations,"' said Krzyzewski, who already has endured one former player's near-fatal car accident in 1993 (Bobby Hurley) and another's career being decimated by injuries (Grant Hill). "I would be shocked if he didn't play (again). I just think that it will happen. He's different than all of us. In the assembly line of putting people together, somehow it stopped on him."

That is the optimistic view. Krzyzewski is certainly entitled to it after seeing Hurley's recovery from injuries doctors thought would kill nine out of 10 people. Yet Hurley was back in the NBA in one year. He was never the same player, as Williams may not be, but he was back.

"Hurley's first game back in the NBA was my first game as a head coach in the NBA (in Sacramento)," new Wizards coach Eddie Jordan said Tuesday. "I'll never forget it. He hadn't played the whole night. I put him in in the fourth quarter. He changed the whole game. He got me my first win. It was incredible how much the crowds loved him."

Ironically, one year ago this week, Williams' name was on every lip. He was the second player picked in the NBA draft after graduating from Duke in three years. (Hobby: chess.) Although his abilities weren't as spectacular as this year's New New Thing -- Lebron James -- they were far more proven. Williams was the Sure Sure Thing. Now, because he did something sufficiently dangerous that it is specifically prohibited in every standard NBA contract -- ride a motorcycle -- there's doubt he'll ever play again.

No wonder Williams' first words to Bulls General Manager John Paxson were, "I'm sorry."

Actually, the issue is far more complex than that. A motorcycle is almost tame compared to some of the activities that present themselves to a world-class athlete. So many Redskins have ridden motorcycles over the years that former kicker Brett Conway recently held his annual "Brett's Biker Bash," a motorcycle ride fundraiser to benefit the Luekemia/Lymphoma Society.

Karl Malone has a clause written into his contract permitting him to ride a motorcycle. Bulls Coach Bill Cartwright, one of the first people at Williams' bedside, rides a motorcycle. Michael Jordan is such an avid rider that he has three bikes, including one given to him last season by the Nuggets as a retirement gift.

After what has befallen Williams, however, perhaps more players in all sports will start to think that, perhaps, a motorcycle really ought to be just that -- a retirement gift -- rather than something you buy at age 21 when everything lies in front of you -- so long as you stay in one piece.

According to sources, Williams' contract likely does not have any special cycle clause, like Malone's. That means, if he's hurt badly enough and the Bulls are annoyed enough, Williams's contract might end up voided. But that's far down the road. For now, Paxson says, "Those are things we'll deal with, but you really worry about him and how he's handling it ... I told him not to worry about it. ... When we think about him, we think in terms of this young man who is 21 that made a mistake in judgment. But that's not the issue. The issue is him getting better."

The standard NBA contract says, "The player agrees he will not, without the written consent of the team, engage in sports endangering his safety (including professional boxing or wrestling, motorcycling, auto racing, sky-diving, and hang gliding), or any game of basketball, football, baseball, hockey, lacrosse or other athletic sport." It's specifically OK to engage in "golf, tennis, handball, swimming, hiking, softball, or volleyball." Baseball's standard contract actually excludes swimming and hiking, too.

Krzyzewski knows that athletes are, by nature, rough and tumble and rightly proud of it.

"A person has a right to do whatever he wants to do. Otherwise, this would be a real boring world," Krzyzewski said. "We let our guys be human beings. I'm not going to follow these kids around every second and say, "This is good. This is bad."'

But then Coach K cut to the chase, so to speak: "I wouldn't want any of our players riding a motorcycle."

Unfortunately, because of Jay Williams, a lot of coaches and teams will not have to deliver that message to their expensive but often injudicious young talent. A telephone pole on Chicago's North Side did it for them.

Jeff O Rocks
06-25-2003, 11:00 AM
What a terrible thing to happen.....but if the contract strictly prohibits riding a motorcycle, I doubt he will see a penny of that money.

nccanes
06-25-2003, 12:15 PM
What a terrible thing to happen.....but if the contract strictly prohibits riding a motorcycle, I doubt he will see a penny of that money.

Well, the Bulls are claiming that they will continue to pay him. Apparently this isn't the first time a pro athlete has "broken" the restrictions in their contract and been unable to play - and apparently it's common to pay them anyway. Must be nice.

Sounds like no one pays attention to them. I guess I can't blame them - the article say that baseball players aren't allowed to go swimming. :laugh: :roll:

MCAngel
06-25-2003, 12:18 PM
:angel:

Jeff O Rocks
06-25-2003, 01:19 PM
but he also has a life besides playing basketball.

:angel:

Jay was smart...he secured that degree before spreading his wings... I know a lot of the stuff in the paper is speculation, but I wonder just how badly he is hurt...no helmet and he wasn't very experienced at riding. :roll: :sad:

talkingcanes
06-25-2003, 01:48 PM
I was a little put off by Coach Collins' comment about getting his life back or something. Ok, he's a professional athlete, but he also has a life besides playing basketball. That comment just sends the message that his life is over if he can't play and that sounded really strange...especially coming from his guard coach.


maybe I read that quote differently. I took it to mean basketball was no longer his big concern, but being able to live his life. I think the Bulls will pay him at least part of his salary. he did sign a contract that expressly stated no motorcycles and made a choice to break his word. I can see the team would be annoyed at some point, but I'm sure concern for his recovery is the overwhelming thought at this point. maybe some other newly wealthy 21 year old will see this story and give make better choices because of it.

nccanes
06-25-2003, 09:39 PM
I do feel bad for Jason Williams. It's not like he was hanging out with loan sharks or in a drug ring or anything. ;)

But....while I know young people make mistakes, etc., consider the situation for the average person. Would a person making $25,000 or $50,000 per year be able to break company policy, resulting in them being unable to perform their job and then get their full pay for a year? Not likely.

I'm not a big fan of special treatment - no offense to Williams himself. It appears he's not been the first, nor will he be the last.

I feel the same way about the divorces involving the extremely rich. I recall a GE big wig that fell for another woman (younger of course) and divorced his wife of 30 years (or something close). She'd been not only the corporate wife for all those years (this guy was considered for some time to be in line to take over for Jack Welch, so when I mean corporate wife, I mean corporate wife - all over the world, etc.), but she'd put him through college and Business school before he began his corporate career, at which time they decided she should stay home and raise the family. Anyway, my point in that whole mess was that he didn't want to give her 50% of their assets since he'd "earned them". But once again, take the guy making $50k who owns a house and 2 cars and some investments. You know he's not gonna get away with getting the lion's share (and he shouldn't). So just because it's an obscene amount of money in question, the wife should just get what he thinks she should get. :roll:

I just don't like it when the rules are different and so generous to people who are already very fortunate. I know it happens all the time, but reading stories like this just points it out for the rest of us "regular" people. :p

Sorry about the soapbox. :evil:

Jeff O Rocks
06-25-2003, 09:50 PM
I feel the same way about the divorces involving the extremely rich.

This is kind of off-topic but along those same lines..the other night I was watching The Weakest Link and the contestants were Playboy bunnies competing for charities...well this one gal that became pregnant and had a child by Oscar De La Hoya said she is in the middle of $$ discussions with him..and when the host asked her how much...it was like $60 million..... :eek: :crazy:

nccanes
06-25-2003, 09:54 PM
I feel the same way about the divorces involving the extremely rich.

This is kind of off-topic but along those same lines..the other night I was watching The Weakest Link and the contestants were Playboy bunnies competing for charities...well this one gal that became pregnant and had a child by Oscar De La Hoya said she is in the middle of $$ discussions with him..and when the host asked her how much...it was like $60 million..... :eek: :crazy:

LOL! Yeah, I guess we've gone off topic.

Well, does ol' Oscar have 60 mil these days?

He should have to put some pile of cash away for his child. What he should have done is put something else away. ;) :evil:

Jeff O Rocks
06-25-2003, 09:56 PM
What he should have done is put something else away. ;) :evil:

Exactly......he made his "bed"..now he has to lie (sp) in it!! :D ;)

nccanes
07-03-2003, 09:55 PM
Williams has been moved to Duke:

Jay Williams transferred to Duke Medical Center
By NANCY ARMOUR, AP Sports Writer
July 3, 2003

Jay Williams has been transferred to Duke University Medical Center, where he'll continue rehabilitation for career-threatening injuries to his knee and pelvis.

The Chicago Bulls guard was released Wednesday from Illinois Masonic and flown to Durham, N.C., his family said in a statement Thursday.

He has made ``substantial improvements'' in the two weeks since his motorcycle crash, and agent Bill Duffy said Williams took a step last weekend with the help of a physical therapist.

``It is very positive,'' Duffy said Thursday. ``We're all praying diligently, and Jay has a great outlook. He's making progress, and we're all very excited.''

Williams, a former Duke star and college player of the year, bought a new motorcycle June 12. One week after its purchase, he slammed into a pole on Chicago's North Side, putting his promising future in jeopardy.

He's had surgery twice to repair a broken pelvis, and has damaged ligaments in his left knee. He will have knee surgery at Duke, Duffy said.

Duffy said Duke, one of the country's top medical centers, will provide a ``healing atmosphere'' for Williams. He was a two-time All-American at Duke and remains close to Blue Devils coach Mike Krzyzewski. Williams' number was retired at Cameron Indoor Stadium last year.

``The Williams family wants to thank everyone in the city of Chicago and across the nation for the outpouring of support and prayers during this dramatic time,'' the family said the statement. ``Jay's condition continues to improve, and the outlook for his future looks very good.''

While Williams' basketball future is uncertain, Duffy said he still hopes the No. 2 pick in the 2002 draft will be able to play again someday, possibly as early as the 2004-05 season.

``I think it's in God's hands,'' Duffy said. ``That's what we're hoping for.''