Rules for Ticket Exchange

[caniac369]

Because of a recent circumstance, I would like to meekly request that we have some outlined rules with regards to postings about available tickets. It's always been kind of an unspoken thing, but with the recent (ie: since June 2006) increase of new forum members I think we need a little structure aside from the 'no more than $3 over face'.

If someone posts an ad wanting tickets for a certain game or event, that person should be given 1st right of refusal of any tickets made available. And, in keeping with that, any posters with available tickets should consider the existing requests already posted for those tickets prior to offering them to someone who hasn't already posted a want ad for them.

Confused? :D Bottom line, if you have tickets to sell, give away, etc. please check the existing ads to ensure you aren't screwing someone out of tickets (especially much sought after tickets) they have already requested via a post in the ticket forum. And, if there is more than one request, offer the tickets to the poster who put the first ad up, and so on.

I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby, but I (along with some others) were really frustrated over the cirsumstance that led me to post this request.

Thank you for your consideration (and thank you Caniac for keeping this place up). :)

[Shell]

I definitely understand your frustration Erin, I have been looking for tix for you to SWTC even though I really want to go too.. however, I don't think we can enforce your suggestion.. it is just too hard, and hell, what if Puck_it posts that he needs a ticket I have.,. I'd have to eat it just so I didn't have to sit next to him :lol: I am very sorry you didn't get it though.

[puck_it]

:(

But like shell said, even if we have the rules we cant force anyone to sell anything to anybody. As a general 'rule,' it would be polite to see if there are any who wants it and contact them... I dont think its fair to overly complicate the process with rules other than what the law is. If im 'forced' to sell to someone who it's more difficult to get money from its going to keep me away from using the forum... sorry...

[nccanes]

I think Erin probably meant "common sense guidelines" rather than enforced rules.

[puck_it]

if they arent aware enough to make a common sense descision, odds are they wont end up reading a bunch of guidelines anyway.

but ultimately its up to Caniac

[Caniac]

I don't see any way of policing this other than the law on ticket sales. I would hope people would do the "nice" or "right" thing.

[caniac369]

I think Erin probably meant "common sense guidelines" rather than enforced rules.

Thanks, E. That's exactly what I meant.

As Kat can attest, I don't do well with unecessary stress as of late. :(

Message Edited: I'm really trying not to be a whiny b!tch...

[SpeedRacer]

As someone who has come to this site to give away tickets I would like to add my two cents FWIW (which is not much).

I would resent the addition of any type of guidelines related to whom I should give or sell my tickets. I should have the right to decide who to give them to - they are mine I paid a lot of money and it should be up to me and only me as long as I stay within the laws.

On the other side, I sense a position of first come first serve entitlement based on the initial post on this thread. I don't understand this at all. Just because you are the first poster looking for something, that doesn't give you the right to first come first serve. This right or option should be in the hands of the seller or giver. If they want to offer it on a first come first serve basis - that is their option. If they want to offer it based on best screen name, that is their option. If they want to read the board and just send a pm to someone who is looking or NOT - it's their option. It's their tickets and they should have the option to distribute them as they please.

In alignment with the above, I disagee that first come first serve is the "right" way to do it or that it is common sense. In fact, the last time I gave away a ticket here I intentionally avoided the first come first serve idea because I think it is unfair - just my opinion. I came up with something else and my ticket did not go to the first person to reply.

It would be a shame if even "common sense suggestions" were imposed on this board because I would just find another place to go to give my tickets away and then nobody here wins.

I am sorry if you feel slighted because you were in the hunt for something that became available and you lost out but those are the breaks sometimes.

[nccanes]

Obviously (it's been said numerous times) NOTHING can be enforced.

Caniac369 is flying in from Portland, OR and would really like to attend this event (given her inability to get to many games or functions that most of us do).

An ad for someone selling tickets appeared in HER thread that was seeking them.

Of course no one is expected to be forced to do anything, but perhaps they could have reviewed the very thread they posted in and noticed it had been bumped numerous times that she was still in search of tickets (or created their own thread at minimum).

I understand your point, but I undestand Erin's as well.

[SpeedRacer]

Enforced or not - it doesn't matter. All I am saying is that if there were any type of "suggestions" for how this should be handled, I would be turned off and I'd take my free tickets elsewhere. The owners of this site have the option to determine the rules, guideline, and suggestions for participating on this site. I am just using my voice to state the potential consequences of a decision to act upon this idea.

What happened to Caniac369 is unfortunate but there are a lot of people who are missing out on SWTC who would love to be there - local or not. It is a one time annual event and I would not compare it to going to a game. I still say that if someone has an extra ticket to sell or give away, they should have the right to distribute to whomever they want.

Surly there was nothing malicious intended when someone with tickets posted the availability inside of Caniac369 thread, what we have here is a lack of communication boss - we don't need no stinkin' rules because of it. : )

I'm off my box now, I have a couple of tickets to exchange and give away at some point I just want to make sure I can determine who will be the lucky ones to get them.

[Caniac]

As someone who has come to this site to give away tickets I would like to add my two cents FWIW (which is not much).

I would resent the addition of any type of guidelines related to whom I should give or sell my tickets. I should have the right to decide who to give them to - they are mine I paid a lot of money and it should be up to me and only me as long as I stay within the laws.

On the other side, I sense a position of first come first serve entitlement based on the initial post on this thread. I don't understand this at all. Just because you are the first poster looking for something, that doesn't give you the right to first come first serve. This right or option should be in the hands of the seller or giver. If they want to offer it on a first come first serve basis - that is their option. If they want to offer it based on best screen name, that is their option. If they want to read the board and just send a pm to someone who is looking or NOT - it's their option. It's their tickets and they should have the option to distribute them as they please.

In alignment with the above, I disagee that first come first serve is the "right" way to do it or that it is common sense. In fact, the last time I gave away a ticket here I intentionally avoided the first come first serve idea because I think it is unfair - just my opinion. I came up with something else and my ticket did not go to the first person to reply.

It would be a shame if even "common sense suggestions" were imposed on this board because I would just find another place to go to give my tickets away and then nobody here wins.

I am sorry if you feel slighted because you were in the hunt for something that became available and you lost out but those are the breaks sometimes.

Agreed.

[Canesluver]

And to add my 2 cents...

I'll have to admit that in year's past, when I've had some tickets to sell-- I might say that I'll sell them to the first person, but in actuality, I collected names for an hour or so, and then simply chose the person who I'd either met and liked or could be vouched for by a friend. Since I've gotten to know my "seatmates" (other STHs) around me, I want to be sure the people sitting in my seats aren't going to be annoying. When I come back for the next game, I don't want to find out that people I sold the tickets to irritated anybody.

I'd add that there's no reason to make public who you sold your tickets to. It's not a contest, so there shouldn't be a "winner," since that implies there's a loser(s) who will be disappointed. :huh:

[caniac369]

An ad for someone selling tickets appeared in HER thread that was seeking them.

Thanks again, E. I probably should have made this point in the very beginning that this was my whole point. Instead of posting his own ad, he puts a posting in a thread authored by me & updated by Kat & myself (me as recently as 3 days prior to his post).

I'm sorry for causing such a stir and by no means meant to imply that Canaic and our other mods needed to add more the their plate of moderating & policing (though not so much since the close of the Eastern Conference Finals ;)). I should have worded my rant (yes, I admit the start of this thread was more out of frustration than anything) differently and did not mean to come accros the way it did.

I sincerely hope that everyone who is going on Sunday has a wonderful time.

[Zamboni]

This was a strange situation, and I wasn't even involved, but I wanted to note that the seller didn't originally post in your thread, caniac369. He or she originally put it in the Canes discussion forum somewhere (I can't remember if it was with the SWTC info thread or as a separate thread.) Someone replied suggested there was already a thread on this in the ticket exchange and that's where the info should be posted. That's when it got tacked onto your thread.

Occassionally I have had extra tix and I have PMed people here whom I knew were seeking. This makes you feel like you're doing the right thing, but it has obvious disadvantages. First of all, you have to wait for the person to PM you back. When they do, they'll probably be really excited, but they might say "I'd love to go! But, we were planning X instead so let me check with my spouse (or hire a sitter or call my friend etc. etc.) So, you might end up waiting for them to PM you again. By now it's not unlikely that a couple of days have past. If it turns out they can't go after all, you then have to PM the next person and go through a similar routine. I've gone through several iterations of this for one set of tickets, so it can end up using substantial seller time. I did one time have someone say they were buying well in advance, and then they decided not to go at the last minute, and that was a pain. One time, we gave tickets away for free and found out later that the person we gave them to sold them! Bah! So, it is an extra hassle to do what is being suggested in this thread.

So, I guess what I'm saying is that, while I understand why you are upset, people who are selling or giving something away might just want to unload quickly, to someone they know, or use some other distribution guidelines (like my current guidelines that you must be cheering for the home team and promise not to scalp them.)

That's my 2 cents. Sorry it didn't work out for you this time. :(

[SouthernHockeyChick]

This was a strange situation, and I wasn't even involved, but I wanted to note that the seller didn't originally post in your thread, caniac369. He or she originally put it in the Canes discussion forum somewhere (I can't remember if it was with the SWTC info thread or as a separate thread.) Someone replied suggested there was already a thread on this in the ticket exchange and that's where the info should be posted. That's when it got tacked onto your thread.
I could be wrong, but I think you're thinking of the new thread that was starting asking for info on SWTC (and mentioned the tickets up for grabs) that was then tacked on to the regular SWTC thread. The original tickets for grab post was posted well before that in the ticket forum, on caniac369's thread, I'm pretty sure. Not that it matters. :beatup:

[Zamboni]

You're right about the threads, SHC. My bad. :beatup:

[puck_it]

everyone has their motives with how they sell. it's not doing any good for everyone to give their opinion. especially since some of them are being ever so carefully crafted as not to come across as thumbing their nose at a board member, it doesnt take a genius to read between the lines.


whats done is done. Caniac made a descision about policy implementations... for the sake of peace, lets move on.