Who thinks the rules around here are too strict?

[Caniac]

Well what do you think?

Too harsh?
Too lenient?
Just right?

[StormShaman]

I think they're fine--who's beetchen'?

[nccanes]

It says I can't vote in the poll, but it's hard to answer.

In general I'm totally fine with the rules. I know today there was an issue with the poster talking about advertising. I can't remember the post total, but I know the user was fairly new.

While most was in jest, there were definitely some sarcastic posts in response . I (personally) found the discussion an interesting one. But I do think that newer posters sometimes get yanked around a bit. We all know that it takes time to kinda get the vibe of any particular MB. Maybe some slack for newbies?

As far as the topic that was posted, I'm not sure why those that found it uninteresting and unnecessary didn't just avoid the topic instead of trying to convince the original poster (and me I guess) that it wasn't discussion worthy.:huh:

[G-Vegas Caniac]

I think they're just right. I think when things have gotten out of control it has been taken care of and when a troll has caused trouble they have got banned...I think everything is fine boss! :D

EDIT: Yeah it says I can't vote also?

[nccanes]

I guess the thread in question (the advertising one) was yanked. I wanted to make sure my impression of the 'welcome' he/she was given was accurate, so my post ^^ is just off memory, w/o review of it. But the poster was most certainly a "Canes fan" and while the last post may have annoyed some, they certainly didn't strike me as a "troll".

[Caniac]

The poll is screwed up, just post. ;)

It was an interesting thread. I viewed it as another one of those ones with a lot of joking going on. I didn't think anyone was actually trying to derail, really, until the original poster flipped out.

It is worthy of discussion, but it isn't really something that anyone is going to disagree with, so it did become a fun thread...

I dunno.

Anyway that thread doesn't really have much to do with this question, but it did arise from that.

I didn't do the banning on this one, but I did agree with it. The poster basically said that this board didn't allow discussion on a topic like that and then talked about he superiority of other boards, to which I would have taken offense. I don't understand the need to do that.

[G-Vegas Caniac]

I kinda agree with the new posters thing..I recently got xm and decided to join a XM Message board..Well those guys on there that have been around for awhile on there are just plain rude to new people. I'm not saying that place is nothing like here but I could see where new users might get a bad feel sometimes..But I really think things are just fine on here though.

[Caniac]

I fixed the poll, you should be able to vote now.

[nccanes]

Oh I agree there was plenty of fun/humor in it. But the first few posts were a bit more abrasive than what a "regular" would have rec'd. Perhaps this is one of those cases were pixels did not convey the commentary the same way to each reader. Because some of the responses puzzled me. I hadn't thought about the advertising in that manner (representative companies from various consumer markets yet untapped) and thought the examples were good ones.

I had no problem with the witty banter tho.

[puck_it]

well in addition to having fun i asked some legitimate questions. they decided to go bat **** crazy. so i was going to give them a day or two to calm down, nobody ever said the thing was permanent.

**** like this:

Again, I tried to start a serious conversation and some people are just too dumb to connect the dots. (not everyone) Much better boards to talk all things hockey than this one. On any of the national boards, there are numerous posts and even sections for talk like this, but not here. What a shame !!!!

doesnt get the welcome mat.

[goalie33]

Oh I agree there was plenty of fun/humor in it. But the first few posts were a bit more abrasive than what a "regular" would have rec'd. Perhaps this is one of those cases were pixels did not convey the commentary the same way to each reader. Because some of the responses puzzled me. I hadn't thought about the advertising in that manner (representative companies from various consumer markets yet untapped) and thought the examples were good ones.

I had no problem with the witty banter tho.

In general, I'd agree that a newer poster should/would get some slack, but the tone even in the original post was one that I felt could come down a couple of notches on the horse, so I tossed in a joke or two. When the original poster flipped out and called us dumb and a subpar board, I took that as a license to throw both barrels on the sarcasm front (especially when the attack included the ridiculous misuse of a word...that's begging for it, really). I should point out that I didn't get to read the user in question's (UIQ) final post.

I must say that the UIQ had been around for a while, though hadn't been a regular poster, but when (s)he did post, it was usually about some form of advertising. That is just fine, of course, but the one non-advertising post I remember was something to the effect of "UNLESS YOU'VE SUNG THE ANTHEM IN FRONT OF 18K YOU CAN'T CRITICIZE HOLLY." We're not talking about some innocent internet novice who stumbled upon a new topic in the hockey world.

As for the rules around here, I think they're fine. Everyone gets a fair shake from the get-go, trolls are dealt with in a quick and civil fashion, and when things get a bit too heated and a mod makes a comment, that comment is generally respected. I like it here.

[Bonbonsgrrl]

i don't know what thread we are talking about but here's my .02 cents.

i think the rules are good.....but i feel that there are certain people on the board who feel as if their opinion matters more than one or another .....and there are some points where i feel their posts are MEANT to put someone down as to make their self bigger and as the other person is such a horrible person.This doesn't work in the real world so i don't know why they would presume it would work on the boards.

I guess the only thing i would suggest if you see a post meant to "put down" or degrade.....step up more.

[VandyCane]

I almost posted last night but decided to sleep on it so I could think about what to write.

Overall I think the tone of this board is excellent. I really appreciate all the intelligent and well informed posters on this board. I think there is a maturity level not found on many message boards and that's probably why this is the only MB I post on anymore! I like that gossip/innuendo about players private lives is shut down pretty quickly.

The only times I think we may be "too harsh" is on new posters. I'm not talking about trolls...they shouldn't be tolerated. But I do think that newbies can be jumped on pretty easily and that some long time posters can get away with statements/comments that would easily get a newbie in trouble. I think that sometimes we give the impression of being "cliquish". I know people don't mean to come across that way but I can see why some would think that.

[StormShaman]

We need a FAQ!

Actually, there would really only be one entry on it:

"If you are thin-skinned, have no sense of humor, and take everything super-seriously, then this is not the board for you."

[SouthernHockeyChick]

^ Well said, StormShaman. My feelings don't easily get hurt and I really have no understanding of people's who's feelings do. I just don't think of things that way, I guess, so I don't often see what might upset someone.

The cliquish thing is obviously true, but I have no idea what we're supposed to do about it. Many of us have been here since 2002. Many of us know each other in real life. Many of us are very good friends. Sorry, I guess that is a clique. I don't think it's anything intentional. Just so happens that a lot of us know what others of us mean, even if we don't really say what we mean. Know what I mean? :lol:

I also agree this place is harder on newbies. But Caniac et al know when I'm getting *****y that I'm not here to try to cause trouble. How are they supposed to know that about the new folks until they've been here awhile?

Every message board I've ever seen that has any sense of community also has a break-in period for new people. And new people should really at least read on here a while before diving right in. You have to get the feel for what is and isn't kosher every place you go. Hang in there and this place is worth it.

As for the most recent banning, I'm going off memory here too, but I'm almost positive there were a few posts in the past that made me wonder about that person's motives. Still, based on what went on in that thread alone, I'll be honest (and I know no one expected any less, lol) and tell you I was surprised he got canned. But, this place has been awesome for years now and is easily the best Canes board out there so, I got no problem with how the powers that be maintain that.

[livinthedream]

Caniac, you [and team] run a board that is clean, smart, and fun, things that are all very important to me. And short of camping out at the RBC Center, nothing else comes close to this board for capturing the Hurricanes experience.

There are times when you’re going to feel like you let a discussion go on for too long without intervening. Other times you’re going to feel like you pulled the trigger too fast. There are people who are going to disagree with you on each instance. No one is going to agree with you all the time. But on balance, you set a very clear course and you stay with it. And at the end of the day, this is your board, and you have to be comfortable with the direction it takes.

I think you all do a fine job.

Now about newbies, cause I'm kind of one. I think it's human nature for "long timers" (I won't say old timers ;) ) to be suspicious of new posters, because you really don't know their motives, So you do test them somewhat, and maybe scrutinize them harder than you do the veterans you know. You'll find that on any message board you visit, and it's not different from the way you'd treat a new neighbor or the new guy at work.

As a newbie, it's actually pretty easy to assess the veterans, because it's all there in black and white and smilies. You can take any poster on this board and easily read old posts and get a pretty good idea of whether they're serious or joking or blowing smoke. If you take the time to do it.

[puck_it]

I also agree this place is harder on newbies. But Caniac et al know when I'm getting *****y that I'm not here to try to cause trouble. How are they supposed to know that about the new folks until they've been here awhile?


totally the toughest part, from a veteran poster perspective too. how does any one react to what people say...?

[livinthedream]

Oh, and by the way.....Southwest Airlines.....that was priceless. ;)

[brindyfan]

thought since I am a "new" newbie (think I have 3 posts-lol), I thought I would chime in. Every board seems to be cliquish at first---you just learn to proceed with caution and try to be as respectful as possible. As far as the members here...everyone seems great. Caveman (aka Sam) sold me tickets to a game without even knowing me one bit---and I ended up sitting near some of the board members at the game. Everyone was terrific even if I am a screaming maniac at games.

anyway, I think you guys do a great job here. I hope to post more and get more in the clique over time;)

[Staalchic12]

Yeah, Im a relatively new member and I can get when people here are joking. I think the rules are just fine. I've seen other boards that are a lot more strict and the people there dont seem to have as much fun. I like the atmosphere here. Good job, keep it up!

[apolinar]

This place stinks. Not enough nudity allowed in the men's forum. Other than that you guys do a good job and I wouldn't change a thing. I like having never seen the thread in question. It's like it never happened. :)

[Scottie2hottie]

As a newbie around here I did feel quite intimidated at first. Now I've just learned to let it roll off my back when someone doesn't like what I have to say or puts me down (thanks to a few of the "veteran" posters that I know personally ;) ).

After seeing a few of the other boards and what gets said in them and what's allowed to be said in them, I think that this is the greatest MB out there. :)

[CANESFREAKinDET]

At first I thought the rules were too strict, but after my personal experience when there was problems, it was just right. :) This place and the mods who run it don't take much crap when there's problems on the board, especially when there's disputes that could blow up and get ugly and I like that. :) Whatever problems were brewing were stopped and attempts were made to solve the problem and get things back to normal. I'm happy to post here when I can and enjoy most everyone. So yes, I think that it's a very good job done with no changes needed, just my two pennies. ;) :D

[Lady J]

This place stinks. Not enough nudity allowed in the men's forum. Other than that you guys do a good job and I wouldn't change a thing. I like having never seen the thread in question. It's like it never happened. :)

The Booty King is right. Not nearly enough nudity. Take it off Arthur!

[RIO]

That's right!! Take it all off, Snack Fairy!! Woooohooo!!

[Sparky]

Boards should be run however the admin/moderator thinks they should. If folks don't like it, they can leave. The admin needs to consider how the wishes of the community fit with his/her personal goals for the site, but in the end it's his/her call. If the admin decides to let the community set the standards in a place he/she doesn't feel comfortable, it just leads to a ton of stress (and less fun) for the person running the place.

These boards are tough on the rules, no question, and I've disagreed with rulings and treatment of visitors on a number of occasions, but I'm not going anywhere or protesting. I like to visit, post occasionally, give and take some friendly jibes, but I always try to play within the limits of how this place is run. Who am I to say otherwise? In the end I'm a guest, both as a poster on someone else's boards and as a Caps fan on a Canes site. I wouldn't dream of being offended because things aren't run 100% to my preferred specifications (and, frankly, I love seeing Leafs fans run out on a rail). If I'm not happy I'll go away, not 'cause a fuss, and I think most folks behave the same way.

Sorry so long. Bottom line: you're doing fine (and I voted that you're too soft, for the record), keep up the great work!