Round 1: Detroit vs. Calgary

[Canesluver]

Discuss the Redwings/Flames series here.

[Budman]

Series Schedule:

#1 Detroit vs. #8 Calgary Date Time (ET) Location Network
Thu., April 12 7:00 p.m. at Detroit VERSUS, CBC
Sun., April 15 1:00 p.m. at Detroit NBC, CBC
Tue., April 17 10:00 p.m. at Calgary CBC, VERSUS
Thu., April 19 TBD at Calgary CBC, VERSUS
*Sat., April 21 3:00 p.m. at Detroit NBC, CBC
*Sun., April 22 TBD at Calgary CBC, VERSUS
*Tue., April 24 TBD at Detroit CBC, VERSUS

[livinthedream]

Wings are having a hard time selling playoff tickets too:

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070410/SPORTS0103/704100360

[Shell]

That makes me REALLY happy, warm, and fuzzy.

[StormShaman]

I guess they don't deserve a team then, huh?

[dakuwan]

Our own John Forslund is doing the game tonight. :D

[Guyute]

bah. I really wish he'd do Eastern games. While I will watch some of Calgary hopefully beating up Detroit... it's definitely not going to take precedence over NYR/ATL or BUF/NYI. That's just me though. Thanks for the heads up anyway, will try and catch bits and pieces of that b'cast.

[SoCalcaniac]

I knew he'd have this game with Edzo....!
Emerick has the game with NJ. and it appears they've slotted Forslund as their #2 guy when he's available. Yeah Johnny!

[dakuwan]

This game also has McGeough :lol:

Detroit up 1-0

[caniac369]

^ Bleh. GO CALGARY!!!

[Guyute]

eegads, 4-0 Wings.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

I see Datsyuk finally gets another playoff goal, lol.

[CaniacKikiBB13]

So, am I just completely out of it or is Center Ice doing a free preview or something? I was just flipping channels and realized that none of their channels were blocked.

Either way, it was a nice little surprise. :D

[SouthernHockeyChick]

What the hell....we just flipped over and there's tihs writhing mass of bodies behind the Calgary net and everyone is going NUTS!

Oh...Cleary sorta ran Mikka (he was out of the crease, though) and Brad Stuart went absolutely apesh*t on him. Wow. It really took the refs forever to reign that in.

[ontheboards]

With Detroit's injuries, I expected more from the Flames. Was surprised that Kipper, who has always been steady, has been streaky as of late. I wonder if Calgary's coach will last if the series is less than competitive...

[nccanes]

And this is something I don't get.

Attendance 19,204.

The Wings can sell out nearly every home reg season game, but come up a bit short for the playoffs? Perhaps they had major price hikes?

[SouthernHockeyChick]

My god, Calgary is just taking penalty after penalty after penalty. The Wings have been on a 5 on 3 for half a freakin' hour!

2-0 Wings.

[StormShaman]

I'd turn the game on, but my hatred for the Wings is such that I'm liable to cross-check the TV with a sledgehammer the minute I see anyone in a winged wheel on the screen.

:mad:

[Guyute]

As bad as I want to see Calgary beat them, I can't bear to watch the Flames get trounced. So I threw on a movie instead. Maybe I'll put it on after the movie if it's actually a game.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

It's way more of a game now. Calgary just scored...2-1 Wings. Hopefully they'll keep this up.

Pierre Maguire is going to get his ass kicked! He is between the benches and he's continually slamming the crap out of Calgary! The player that's right beside him, different one every time, almost always has a reaction too. It's cracking me up! I can't wait until one just stands up and sucker punches him. :lol:

[Guyute]

There's nothing I'd love more than to see that.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Well, the game was sorta Detroit vs Kipprusoff there in the second. He's playing awesome. The rest of the Flames can't seem to get any offense going. But, at least they aren't also the defensive wreck they were in the first. Maybe the offense can come around in the third!


This weather interuption on TWC is REALLY pissing me off. :mad: I think the crawl on the bottom of the screen all afternoon plus the emergency broadcast things probably were good enough, thanks. It's stormy, there are tornado warnings, we GET IT. SHUT UP and let me watch the game!! :mad:

[RangersCanesFan]

Anyone have a score? WCNC thinks it's more important to cover a possible weather event 60 or so miles away.

In Charlotte, right now, beautiful blue sky, about 70 degrees.

SHC, at least you're getting a crawl. Charlotte's NBC station has gone to full weather "alert". NOTHING IS HAPPENING! I've already gotten into with the station's GM. New York is getting a phone call tommorrow. This is beyond necessary local coverage; this is an obvious attempt to pre-empt the hockey game to sell weather. This is enough to have their affiliation pulled.

[folgersnyourcup]

This is really ticking me off. 2-1 game going into the third and I can't even see it because of the stupid weather report that doesn't even apply to me.

Lame!

What number did you call? I am in the Concord area and would like to complain as well!!!!!

[SouthernHockeyChick]

SHC, at least you're getting a crawl.
No, I HAD a crawl. I was *****ing because the crawl had changed to a half-screen hockey game and a half-screen weather report with only weather sound. An extremely repetitive weather report, I might add. At least I live where the storm actually is, though.

3-1 Detroit now.

[RangersCanesFan]

I called the NBC News Channel number in the yellow pages, 704-329-8700, and then stayed on through the messages and got transferred to the news desk.

Ask to be transferred to the GM and threaten to call New York to get their affiliation pulled.

[folgersnyourcup]

What did you say to the GM? Are you talking about getting their affiliation with the NHL to be pulled?

[RangersCanesFan]

I asked what was the purpose of non-stop coverage of weather that doesn't affect Charlotte or the metro area. I asked what was the point of covering something that might affect 5% of their projected far fringe audience (which might be 50 people if that), when the city was expecting to watch NHL hockey.

The affiliation thing is complaining about WCNC's blatant disregard of NBC network programming. If an affiliate won't broadcast network programming, the parent (NBC, CBS, etc... can drop the local station as an affiliate, and recommend to the FCC that the station's license be pulled.)

These are local stations in a pissing contest over who can cover weather "better". Networks DO NOT LIKE THIS.

Edit: They put the last 3 minutes of the game on.

[puck_it]

hey, lets get mad that they're broadcasting the fact that theres tornado warnings.

[secretweapon7]

It's way more of a game now. Calgary just scored...2-1 Wings. Hopefully they'll keep this up

Pierre Maguire is going to get his ass kicked! He is between the benches and he's continually slamming the crap out of Calgary! The player that's right beside him, different one every time, almost always has a reaction too. It's cracking me up! I can't wait until one just stands up and sucker punches him. :lol:

That would be great. The Billy Packer of the NHL deserves nothing better. If they would just give us Emrick and Olchek(sp?) without Maguire that would be a decent announce team.

[RangersCanesFan]

puck_it,

It's not the fact they're broadcasting tornado warnings. I have NO PROBLEM with cut ins, but TWO HOURS OF NOTHING, just trying to sell possible death and destruction just because the other local stations are doing it is irresponsible and sensationalistic journalism. Network programming be damned; we need to have super duper popper doppler 8000 which can spot a purple dot from 200 miles away--AAAHHHHH that may be a bow echo in Johnson City, Tennessee--the one person with the 600 foot reciever that can see us there might be in danger--PRE-EMPT ALL PROGRAMMING!!!

[SouthernHockeyChick]

hey, lets get mad that they're broadcasting the fact that theres tornado warnings.

They're not "broadcasting" it. They're sensationalizing it.

[AbNormal27]

You didn't miss much of a game. Calgary had 15 shots TOTAL for 60 miutes of hockey? Hopefully they have a better effort in their own barn.

Aaryn

[Captain Slack]

Part of Bob McKenzie's article on TSN today:

Flames should think of a coaching change

Bob McKenzie

4/15/2007 9:51:49 PM

We've seen how parity has played out in the early going through every series in these Stanley Cup Finals - with the exception of the series between the Detroit Red Wings and Calgary Flames.

Now let me get two big disclaimers out of the way before I address what's wrong with the Flames.

First, I am not offering any predictions here or going by any 'insider information.' Secondly, I rarely, if ever, want to throw a head coach under the bus. The ultimate responsibility of a team's performance lies with the players on the ice.

Having said that, if I were general manager Darryl Sutter and the Flames' ownership, I would look long and hard at replacing Jim Playfair going into Game 3.

Is it dramatic? Absolutely.



But if you looked at the way this Calgary Flames team showed up in Detroit in their first two games, they weren't even there. They weren't playing with discipline, they weren't playing for their coach and they weren't playing for each other.

You have to look at this from a practical point as well.

If the Flames - who just squeaked into the playoffs - lose this series in four or five games with Playfair behind the bench, do you honestly believe he will be behind the bench next year? I don't think so.

Now perhaps the Red Wings will make every team they play look this way by reducing their opposition to tatters. And perhaps this is to be expected, because the Flames have been a terrible road team and you're never really in trouble in a playoff series until you lose on home ice.

But how the Flames lost their first two games is almost as important as the fact that they lost them.

If I was Darryl Sutter, I would put my best foot forward. The best candidate to go behind the bench right now for the Calgary Flames is their general manager.

I hate to say it, but I was thinking the same thing while watching Game 2 yesterday. Calgary just wasn't playing professional hockey and it really showed. Sutter has to do something.

[Solracer]

Detriot Just seems to be smacking them in the mouth....

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Yeah, I can't believe how un-drastic I think this idea is. Calgary just doesn't look like they even care!

[Guyute]

BIG game tonight, hopefully I'll be able to stay up for it.
Calgary should be damn near unbeatable at home, no matter how badly they are on the road. That's how it's been all season long.
If that's the case, win these 2 at home... and they just have to steal one out of 3 remaining road games. Still in decent shape.... long as they can find themselves at home.

[Fghtr4jc]

So Calgary's return to the Saddleback has given them life (and that cool red flash when they score, still my favorite thing in a hockey stadium). After sharing minor teams with the Flames, they've always had a special place in my heart (which means I have a special place for the Flames and Oilers...I hope they don't fight). Anyway, its 2-1 Detroit but if Calgary wins the next game, the Wings may want to be very careful.

Oh, and Kipper catching pucks on his back, flippin amazing.

[Guyute]

Calgary found their game at home... surprise surprise. lol

I think if they get some confidence at home going, win Game 4, they have a shot at stealing 5. Hasek has been playing pretty well... but I still think Detroit is pretty ripe for the picking.
And Jerome, please keep putting the body on Bertuzzi.

[RIO]

Detriot Just seems to be smacking them in the mouth....

A glorious sound. (Forgive me, Jarome...)

[SouthernHockeyChick]

OMG. Chris Chelios just dove like nothing I've ever seen before. And the only call was on Iginla. Ridiculous.

[bonniebroad]

Guys, why do so many of you HATE the Red Wings so much? (Pretty new to the sport, remember?) I generally tend to pull for a U.S. team over a Canadian team .... but ... just wondering???

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Guys, why do so many of you HATE the Red Wings so much? (Pretty new to the sport, remember?) I generally tend to pull for a U.S. team over a Canadian team .... but ... just wondering???
Game 3 2002 Stanley Cup Finals.


Also, before we met the Sabres fans, Detroit fans were the absolute worst visiting fans, IMO. And there are SO many people who have no connection whatsoever to the town, the team, the state, nothing, but somehow they're Detroit fans. A native North Carolinian that I went to school with pulled for them against the Canes in 2002. It's just annoying. They're kind of the UNC of hockey, IMO. I'm all about the underdog.

Plus, they've won the Cup eleventy billion times in the last decade. Why should they get another?


Frankly, I don't hate them so much anymore. Minus Chris Chelios. They just aren't that significant anymore, IMO. I want Calgary to win this series because that is a team I do like. I go with who I like....I don't care if they're Canadian or American. Half our team is Canadian so, I don't really see the point in holding anything against those teams. We did steal their sport, after all. I'll be happy to see the Cup go back to Canada as long as it's not Toronto or against us. :D

[livinthedream]

^What SHC said.

Plus Todd Bertuzzi. :mad:

[StormShaman]

Guys, why do so many of you HATE the Red Wings so much? (Pretty new to the sport, remember?) I generally tend to pull for a U.S. team over a Canadian team .... but ... just wondering???

Wow, you ARE new.

For some of us, it was 2002.

For me, it's been a lifelong thing--I've never liked Detroit, ever. Assy (not to mention ign'ant) fans, dirty whining douchebag players (Chris Chelios and Kirk Maltby, hello), constant fellation from the media....

Yeah. I've hated them for the better part of 27 years now. Even when they were bad I hated them. When they're bad again I'll hate them.

[bonniebroad]

They're kind of the UNC of hockey, IMO. I'm all about the underdog.

Gotcha, SHC! I can understand that ... I get sick of any team/person that wins something EVERY danged time! (Unless it's my Hurricanes, my Tar Heels or my Wolf Pack ... yep, I'm a *heart* divided! :spin: )

I got into hockey during the 2002 Stanley Cup finals but I only remember that we lost ... not much else. Was there something in particular that I should remember about the game you single out?

[bonniebroad]

livinthedream and StormShaman, thanks for your replies as well. Starting to understand a little bit more now. You guys mention names, then I check the guys out to find out why they have the reputation they do. I already disliked Bertuzzi ... :)

[bonniebroad]

Okay, I just went on nhl.com, and refreshed my memories of game 3 by reading the Recap on there, SHC. THAT WAS A HEARTBREAKER!!! :cry: I knew next to nothing about hockey at the time, but that series got me hooked!

[Pirate Caniac]

Wow, you ARE new.

For some of us, it was 2002.

For me, it's been a lifelong thing--I've never liked Detroit, ever. Assy (not to mention ign'ant) fans, dirty whining douchebag players (Chris Chelios and Kirk Maltby, hello), constant fellation from the media....

Yeah. I've hated them for the better part of 27 years now. Even when they were bad I hated them. When they're bad again I'll hate them.

Same thing here. I'm not a fan of anything Detroit.

Much of it goes back to my being originally from Cleveland. Cavs vs. Pistons. Indians vs. Tigers. Ohio State vs. Michigan. There's a ton of big rivalries there, and I'll never cheer for any team from Detroit.

Ironically, I do pull for Pittsburgh teams when my teams are out, even though there's a huge rivalry between Pittsburgh and Cleveland. Though that's because I've got family from the Pittsburgh area.

2002 sealed it for me in hockey, too. Though I'm exactly the same in always cheering for the underdog, so that adds in as well.

Probably the only thing that would diminish my support of the Canes would be if they had a huge dynasty where they won the Cup every year for a bunch of years in a row. It would be great the first couple of years, but I'm sure I'd get sick of them always winning and especially all the bandwagon fans we'd see from all over, who'd never even heard of the Canes before.

I've been paying extra special attention to this series and cheering the Flames on as I've got a friend from Calgary who semi cheered for the Canes last year. Much more than she'd ever actually admit, I'm sure (she paid more attention to how the Canes were doing last year because of my watching the games than she is of the Flames this year). heh So the Flames are kind of like my team from the west.

[e2ipiand1]

I grew up in Michigan and used to be a Red Wings fan, but there's just something that's not the same about them.

I still root for the Tigers, Pistons, and Lions, but not the Red Wings.

[RIO]

Wow, you ARE new.

For some of us, it was 2002.

For me, it's been a lifelong thing--I've never liked Detroit, ever. Assy (not to mention ign'ant) fans, dirty whining douchebag players (Chris Chelios and Kirk Maltby, hello), constant fellation from the media....

Yeah. I've hated them for the better part of 27 years now. Even when they were bad I hated them. When they're bad again I'll hate them.

*unfacetiously* I love you!! :kiss:

Go Wings!! Crush them!! CRUSH... THEM...

[caveman]

Detroit has to have in the back of their mind all the times they've laid down and lost a series when favored. Last year to the Oilers (8 vs. 1). 2004 to the Flames (6 over 1). 2003 to the Ducks (7 over 2 in sweep fashion, all 4 games decided by 1 goal, 2 in overtime). 2001 to the Kings in spectacular collapse fashion (7 over 2 in 6). Even 1994's seven game first-round loss to the Sharks (another 8 over 1 special) has to be in at least a few minds (Nick Lidstrom and Kris Draper were on that team).

I guess I'm finally "over" most of my last vestiges of Detroit loyalty now that Stevie Y is retired. I never had that much interest in Lidstrom. I wouldn't mind seeing Drapes get yet another shot at things, though, the guy is just blue collar all the way, doesn't complain whether he's 4th line, 2nd line, whatever, does whatever job the team needs and has always done it that way.

Love Iginla though, and Detroit has had plenty of runs at this.

I guess I'd want whomever has a better chance of beating Buffalo to win the series, "just in case".

[ButtersSaysNo]

Come on Flames, win today and go up in the series. Would love to see Detroit exit early again.

[JohnH]

Anyone have a score? WCNC thinks it's more important to cover a possible weather event 60 or so miles away.

In Charlotte, right now, beautiful blue sky, about 70 degrees.

SHC, at least you're getting a crawl. Charlotte's NBC station has gone to full weather "alert". NOTHING IS HAPPENING! I've already gotten into with the station's GM. New York is getting a phone call tommorrow. This is beyond necessary local coverage; this is an obvious attempt to pre-empt the hockey game to sell weather. This is enough to have their affiliation pulled.

I know how you feel, but...actually, broadcast stations are REQUIRED by the FCC to run weather emergency information if it happens anywhere in their viewing area. Sunny in Charlotte, wind advisory in Boone = everyone watching WCNC has to hear about it. It's irritating when the stations go to full Overkill Mode, but they have to do something.

John, the slightly off-topic political scientist

[Serendipity]

Uh, wow, the end of this game was crazy. The Flames took like 10 penalties in the third and McLennan slashed Franzen right across the midsection after the whistle after he'd been on the ice something like 30 seconds. That will surely earn him a suspension. Flames are going to be looking for a backup...

[caveman]

What a bizarre game. Very hard, very physical, and the Wings had an additional goal disallowed that looked surely like it should have counted. The Wings out-hit the Flames, I think the Flames were really not ready for that kind of challenge from Detroit.

The McClennan thing was just super-bizarre. Nobody had laid a finger on him, he slashed Franzen twice in front of the crease and had a penalty already coming when he just went berzerk as best I can tell and pulled a Chris Simon (except he hit Franzen in the chest instead of sliding up the shoulder and into the face like Simon) and full baseball swing with his goalie stick. Unbelievable lack of class down the stretch as Calgary committed stupid penalty after stupid penalty -- not talking hooks and trips, blatant crosschecks that were attempts to injure IMHO, and Iginla might be facing a suspension for hunting Schneider down in the final minutes and first giving him a run with a butt-end of the stick, and then chasing him down the ice and a vicious, pointless crosscheck.

I really haven't seen anything like the end of that game... Wow. No class in Calgary?

[Solracer]

What a disgrace Cacary was at the end of them game, I hope the wings pound them 15-0 in the next game tommorow night. I had to rewind the video when they showed the bench I though Hartley was coaching the Flames.

McClennan Should get 25 games like simon.
Langkow shoulg get 5 like tootoo,
Heck I would suspend Igilna and who ever the other idiot who was cross checking a wing in the the back for at least 1 games as it was obvious they were trying to injure the player they were cross checking. I used to respect the flames and Igilna but now more.. they are classless jerks.

[RIO]

I really haven't seen anything like the end of that game... Wow. No class in Calgary?

Seriously. And I never had a bad opinion about the Flames before. It felt weird to watch them act like that, esp Jarome. They don't have the rep of being thuggy or out of control.

[SoCalcaniac]

We just got home and watched the game on TiVo - this game was horrible. McLennan must be experiencing 'roid rage. Bigtime.

Totally uncalled for. and this version of Jarome Iginla is unrecognizeable. I know he plays with an edge, I've always been a fan, but he's the friggin captain. and that Langkow slug was just horrible too.

I had to rewind the video when they showed the bench I though Hartley was coaching the Flames.


I honestly believe all those blow ups were player induced. Jim Playfair is way in over his head coaching this team, and frankly, I don't see him coaching next year Sutter will go back behind the bench. I personally think because Iginla is a far too emotional leader, these guys took their cues from him; and he's gotta reel that crap in. It's uncalled for.

And McLennan's 'act' my gosh he was in there for what 30 seconds ? who in their right mind would've told him to do that bullcrap to Franzen? With 2 minutes left? Good grief.

[goalie33]

The Iginla crosscheck was nothing, and the McLennan slash would make Hextall laugh and is worth two or three games at the absolute most.

[goalie33]

Also, looking at the McLennan slash more closely, it was not a two-hander at all, nor high, nor all that hard, so the comparisons to Simon are ridiculous.

It also looks like he got caught under the chin by Franzen's stick near the end of the original sequence.

[OilerFan]

I agree with most that it was a bizarre ending to the game:

-McLennan laid a good chop on Franzen as he thought he was clipped in the head with a stick intentionally but it was rather incidental as Franzen fell down. Probably worth of a 1 game suspension but what difference does it make...If Kipprusoff goes down the flames are done.

-Langkow's glove-handed punch to the head was brutal. I know he was pissed for the low hip-check...but that really should be worth of at least a game (especially when TooToo got what he did for a similar manuever).

-Iginla's cross-checks were totally out of character. Maybe the $7million-man is ticked off he can't dominate the game like he did in '04??? He's normally a class act so I'm not sure why the need to goon it up?

WINGS WIN = OILERFAN HAPPY!

ABC Baby = Anyone But CALGARY!

[Solracer]

Also, looking at the McLennan slash more closely, it was not a two-hander at all, nor high, nor all that hard, so the comparisons to Simon are ridiculous.

It also looks like he got caught under the chin by Franzen's stick near the
end of the original sequence.


I don't care what his reason were or where he hit him, he used his stick as a weapon, and he should sit IMHO at least same amount as Simon.

The Igilna Cross-check might not be much but the butt end before that was pretty nasty. If that was some 4th line drone people would have been all up in arms.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

McLennan suspended for 5 games, Playfair fined $25,000 and the Flames org fined $100,000.

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=300325

I'm OK with that.

IMO, the supposed Ignila butt-end looked more like bicep to bicep contact to me. I've only seen the one angle but, in that view I don't see the stick making contact.


Lebda won't play tonight due to "headaches".

[puck_it]

im in the camp of saying it was nothing like the simon stick swinging.

fair suspension... imo

[goalie33]

I don't care what his reason were or where he hit him, he used his stick as a weapon, and he should sit IMHO at least same amount as Simon.

By that logic, everyone who has ever received a slashing penalty should be suspended for 25 games.

[nccanes]

Yeah - no way was it like the Simon thing - other than it was a stick and it made contact with an opposing player on purpose.

It sounds like the punishment is no nudge-nudge, wink-wink and I'm fine with it.

SHC - I don't think they have a good camera angle on the Inginla thing. Engblom kind of demonstrated it in studio and talked about how Inginla's sliding his hand down from the end DID look like it, but he couldn't be 100% sure. I got the sense he knew what he'd done or what he certainly intended to do, but admitted he couldn't prove it completely. Iginla's lucky, since that has a suspension as well.

[Solracer]

By that logic, everyone who has ever received a slashing penalty should be suspended for 25 games.

That was not slashing.. I'm sorry but to take your stick and using it like a tommyhawk to someones stomach is not just a slash. He had intent and I guess the good thing was he was actually "thinking" and did not aim higher. I always though they use your stick as a weapon thing was a big no no, but I guess we have discovered a new tatic, but you backup goalie in and wack at the other team, you only get 5 games.

[caveman]

Also, looking at the McLennan slash more closely, it was not a two-hander at all.

Usually I feel like you're the other half of my brain but ... he clearly uses the glove hand to get extra leverage and it's definitely a 2-hander.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5xyITGYdbA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQK_cRQhfXE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be5TWS4OFrc

[nccanes]

That was not slashing.. I'm sorry but to take your stick and using it like a tommyhawk to someones stomach is not just a slash. He had intent and I guess the good thing was he was actually "thinking" and did not aim higher. I always though they use your stick as a weapon thing was a big no no, but I guess we have discovered a new tatic, but you backup goalie in and wack at the other team, you only get 5 games.


No - that's what McLennan got.

Playfair fined $25,000 and the Flames org fined $100,000.

I realize how you stand on this issue, but if you can't discern a difference in what Simon did and what McLennan did - there's not really a reasonable discussion to be had imo.

There's a difference between hauling someone down with your legs and just using your stick - but they are both called tripping. There's cross checking a guys back and his neck, but they're are both cross checking.

Considering how many things get 1 or 3 games, I think 5 games is fair.

Here's the Youtube that shows how Franzen's stick got up in mask. Of course, McLellan was already slashing the crap out of Franzen. But you can also see CLEARLY imo that McLennan didn't swing with all his might and held up when he made contact.

He deserved a suspension and got one. His club deserved to be sent a message and they got one.

[PennsylvaniaCanesFan]

I'm watching this game for sure...gonna be a barnburner after last night.

[caveman]

Detroit outshot Calgary 13-4 in the first, but Kipper keeps it 0-0. This is the kind of game the Flames win...

edit: And Iginla puts them up 1-0 early in the 2nd on their 6th shot of the game.

[JohnH]

Just wondering...what's the difference between a "game misconduct" and a "match penalty"? I thought they were the same thing, but McLennan picked up both of them yesterday.

I loved reading the official stats for that game -- he was on the ice for 18 seconds and drew 22 minutes in penalties...

John

[caveman]

... and we're going to overtime...

[caveman]

Wow, Bertuzzi with a penalty barely 30 seconds into OT. Huuuuuge.

[caveman]

And now a double-minor to Conroy for high-sticking Holmstrom.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

THANK YOU ROMAN HAMRLIK!!!!

[PennsylvaniaCanesFan]

Poor Craig Conroy

SOG - 50-18 Wings

[caveman]

Wow, Calgary killed it. Unbelievable -- Detroit has outshot the Flames 48-17 and it's anybody's game.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Heroic freaking kill. The Hurricanes need to have been watching that PP, though. Maybe notice how much Detroit was MOVING!

ANOTHER penalty on Detroit!

[caveman]

Heroic freaking kill!

Hero spelled K-I-P-P-E-R.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

^ This whole game is spelled like that.

Hard to believe the Flames aren't screwed. Outshot 51-18...how do you win that game?

Dammit, Hasek just flopped like a fish and Moss shoots it OVER the top of the net. ARGH!

[IceSun]

Hard to believe the Flames aren't screwed. Outshot 51-18...how do you win that game?

I hate to say it, but a few of our opponents have figured that out...

[PennsylvaniaCanesFan]

Sometime score. I need to go to bed.

[caveman]

Meh. Going to 2nd OT.

[livinthedream]

Outshot 51-18...how do you win that game?

Man, is Detroit throwing EVERYTHING at the net or what? Great, now I'll never get to sleep tonight.

[caveman]

GOOOOOOOOOOAL Franzen. Guess that's the ultimate payback for getting slashed 4 times on the same play by the backup goaltender yesterday.

At least the Flames fans have it right -- cheer their team. Couldn't believe that Tampa fans were booing their team to end things earlier today.

[livinthedream]

Damn. Did Calgary ever have possession of the puck in that last OT?

[puck_it]

Just wondering...what's the difference between a "game misconduct" and a "match penalty"? I thought they were the same thing, but McLennan picked up both of them yesterday.

I loved reading the official stats for that game -- he was on the ice for 18 seconds and drew 22 minutes in penalties...

John

match penalties typically are only given for intent to injure type situations. it also leaves a team shorthanded for 5 minutes. The recipient of a match penalty is also suspended indefinately pending a ruling from league office.

game misconducts are give for other infractions that require ejection from a game, but dont nessecarily require an additional penalty to the team.

[goalie33]

Usually I feel like you're the other half of my brain but ... he clearly uses the glove hand to get extra leverage and it's definitely a 2-hander.

He's got his glove on the stick, but it's not clamped down, so it's not really doing anything. At first I thought it was a two-hander, but the angle from just ahead of the goal line shows that he's not clamped down. I wouldn't argue that he's not getting a little push off of it, but it's not the normal "baseball swing" image you get when you think of a Bobby Clarke-style "two-hander."

Or maybe I'm just a goalie apologist ;).

After all that Kipper did to keep the Flames in the game (and the series), I can't believe that Moss didn't pot that puck with the entire net open. He's going to be thinking about that for the rest of his career...at least until he scores a playoff OT goal.

I know that playoffs don't count toward trophies in theory, but that should add some Vezina credit, if only just a little, to Mr. Kiprusoff. He was completely in the zone in Game 6...knowing immediately when the puck was through him and having the presence of mind to keep his glove in the crease (not that the goal would've counted if he'd been pushed in). A damn good show, and I'm sorry to see him out on a screen from his own defenseman.

[caveman]

The Flames had a chance to win it in the first overtime period, but David Moss couldn't convert during a power play. Lang was called for hooking at 11:43, and Moss took a shot that deflected high off the helmet of a sprawling Dominik Hasek.

Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good, eh?