Administration changes to LGC.com [Archive]

Caniac

04-09-2007, 10:27 PM

Through the life of every active site and messageboard, a time comes that as an admin you have to take a good hard look at what you've created and see that it might not be how you intended it to be. For LGC, that time is now.

I've been getting a lot of PM's and email lately, and by lately I mean the last few months of people's views concerning the site, its administration and users. Most have been constructive criticism, from people who genuinely seem to love this place but want it to be better than it is, and really that's what I will always want, is for LGC to get better and better. This year we kinda slipped back a little.

The biggest complaint I've been getting is that people don't feel welcome here. That's certainly something I do not feel proud of, if people really feel that way. I want this site to be welcoming to all, and yes even respectful fans of other teams.

As admins we've all been guilty of being heavy handed at times, but I think that at times is an extension of an unwritten rule set that is pretty hard to enforce to begin with. Other times maybe a particular mod or I have had a bad day and have reacted heavy handedly. I'm not trying to make excuses, I am in "fix it" mode and looking forward.

Therefore, I am going to post an LGC Bill of Rights pretty soon, that will spell out exactly what we expect of our members, as well as the procedure that we will follow in the future to deal with any problems. This place is not going to be a dictatorship, so I'd like this thread to be used to discuss what we as a community want out of this site.

First and foremost, I would like to say that I and the mods will do our best to treat everyone here as equally as possible. Whether you joined the site in 2003 or last Tuesday will not matter. We will do our best not to let our real life friendships with some cloud our judgement. What's right is right, regardless of who it concerns.

We'll also no longer be mandating that every detail of every game, or every detail related to a certain topic will have to stay in 1 thread. I find it hard sometimes to dig through a 30 page thread about something just to find the tidbit I'm looking for. We won't expect the tangential topics to remain in there.

To those of you who have been discouraged with the direction of the site, and those of you who don't post as much as you used to, I encourage you to PM me, email me, or post here with your concerns and I will do my very best to incorporate your suggestions.

I look forward to discussing this, and also to the continued success of LGC.com as a messageboard community. I value all of your help to make this place a better place to be and a proper representation of the Carolina Hurricanes Fan Base.

fightingsioux

04-10-2007, 08:40 AM

I have not expressed my opinon as a new poster to anyone however Caniac you hit a lot of items that bothered me.

Any group as a whole can be intimidating. I have stuck around as I like to check for tickets and PM when interested. Everyone has PM'd me back and has been very nice to sit with or explaining that the tickets were already gone. My schedule is too crazy to even commit to ten games.

wheels76

04-10-2007, 09:09 AM

Looking forward to an improved LGC comunity board. Looks like you adressed a few of the main issues that trouble me.

With so many threads, it is hard to find a particlular thread. For example, sometimes a simple question will be asked and the answer is "already a thread on this". I personally don't like to look back 3 months ago for a thread buried on page 19 for an answer to a simple question.

Heavy handed Admins who have double standards. The vast majority of us are here to occasionally post and add our two cents. If someone is calling names, using foul language, or personally attacking a poster....then action should be taken. Not because "you don't like them", or remind them that this is a "dictatorship".

I hope many more knowledgable, fun, die-hard Caniacs will become actively involved in this community. We all share one passion, Carolina Hurricanes Hockey and the pride they bring their loyal fans.
This is a great thing going on here, and I hope with the new Bill of Rights it will only continue to get better.
Looking forward to getting to know all of you better in the future.
GO CANES!!

IceSun

04-10-2007, 09:29 AM

Caniac,

Thank you for taking the time to take such a good, introspective look at the site. As moderator of a (non-hockey related) board, I know how difficult it can be to keep the board true to its original values, keep the majority of its users happy, and still maintain discipline to keep nonsense from spinning out of control.

I must admit that at times (over the last year) I've felt the need to "walk on eggshells" but I've also enjoyed bantering with a lot of good people that are fellow hockey fans. I hope in the season ahead, I will get to meet some of them and form some real-world friendships as well.

I applaud you for trying to improve the board - I know what a labor of love maintaining this is.

Thanks

Scottie2hottie

04-10-2007, 09:38 AM

^My sentiments exactly. I think we all know that maintaining a board of this magnitude isn't easy. I've seen firsthand what happens to boards that don't have great mods like Caniac et al.
There have been times when I've declined from putting my two cents in on something for fear of ridicule, but for the most part this board is great! I'm glad to be part of it and I'm hoping that next season on this board will be even better! :)

caniac369

04-10-2007, 03:35 PM

Honest question: does this mean we are going to be nice to mean people (for example, mean spirited fans of a certain team)? :angel:

puck_it

04-10-2007, 03:44 PM

letsgoCANES.com :kiss:

IceSun

04-10-2007, 04:32 PM

Honest question: does this mean we are going to be nice to mean people (for example, mean spirited fans of a certain team)? :angel:

and yes even respectful fans of other teams.

I think respectful is the key word here and that people like OilersFan are always welcome. I seem to recall there was even a Sabres fan or 2 that wanted to talk hockey, not trash during the 06 playoffs.

If they're coming to trash us, they are not welcome, but I see no problem with being nice to them until we see which way they are going.

Canesluver

04-10-2007, 04:35 PM

I don't get the whole nice thing. Overly sweet things make my teeth hurt! :beatup:

puck_it

04-10-2007, 04:36 PM

I think respectful is the key word here and that people like OilersFan are always welcome. I seem to recall there was even a Sabres fan or 2 that wanted to talk hockey, not trash during the 06 playoffs.

absolutely. but on a side note, those sabres fans showed their true colors in due time.

SouthernHockeyChick

04-10-2007, 04:44 PM

Yeah, there were a whole lot of Sabres fans who were pretending to be nice. When you get outed as playing nice here while ripping us all apart, by name and picture, on another board, I don't think that's cool, either.

I'm looking forward to the changes. I think some things are going to be hard, though. It's very difficult when someone comes here, registers and starts posting on day one....first time we've ever heard from this person....and it's nothing but bashing player x and player y. There are a LOT of folks who don't tend to take too kindly to that. It's hard not to want someone to prove they're really a fan, and not some Buffalo jerk playing games, before they start bashing your team. I didn't even like for my dad to crack on the Canes when we took him to a game this season. He didn't have the knowledge to back up his words, being the first game he'd probably ever watching this team play, and that sorta pissed me off. When someone I don't know lays into my team it's hard not to start out on the defensive.

But, for some of the just outright nastiness to be reeled in....I think that's a great idea. And hopefully won't be as hard.

caniac369

04-10-2007, 05:16 PM

I think respectful is the key word here and that people like OilersFan are always welcome. I seem to recall there was even a Sabres fan or 2 that wanted to talk hockey, not trash during the 06 playoffs.

If they're coming to trash us, they are not welcome, but I see no problem with being nice to them until we see which way they are going.

M, yeah. That's why I said the words mean people and mean spirited.

nccanes

04-10-2007, 10:35 PM

With so many threads, it is hard to find a particlular thread. For example, sometimes a simple question will be asked and the answer is "already a thread on this". I personally don't like to look back 3 months ago for a thread buried on page 19 for an answer to a simple question.

I'll just chime in here as a long time member (since 2002). One of the things that the vast majority of the poster-ship has agreed upon is the "orderly" nature of the forums and threads. If someone posts a quick link that says "being discussed here: ........" it's not to be snarky, just to quickly redirect the conversation to where the discussion is taking place as to not perpetuate a dupe thread.

Some of us DO resurrect 3 month (or older) threads. Not that you have to by any means, but certainly if there is a recent discussion, we like to keep it there. Sometimes folks don't bother to read ACTIVE threads before they post a new one. When that happens, it can sometimes come across as "read what I write, but I'm not interested in reading what you wrote".

Anyway - the organizational manner the board is one of my favorite parts (aside from the people).

But yes - we can all be nicer. Without exception, I've really liked all the people I've met in person from the board, so I've gotten to the point that I presume that about the ones I haven't met as well. That, or I pretend they might be like my Mom or Dad - would would come across as a complete buffoon in a setting like this - but I wouldn't want anyone to treat them like that.

SouthernHockeyChick

04-10-2007, 10:47 PM

Anyway - the organizational manner the board is one of my favorite parts (aside from the people).

Me too. The last time I was at another major CH board I felt like I needed a dose of Ritalin to even read it. You couldn't find anything or figure out what was being discussed where. I can't stand that cluttered nature of most boards. I can see saying you don't have to have only one single thread for every single trade made in the NHL in one season but, if we have 15 threads all essentially discussing the same ticket pricing issues, I might just not bother.

That's a huge part of why this place is unique, IMO. We ARE a community. There are 80 billion random threads about the same thing with only the opinions of a few people in each one. When we start talking about trading Belanger I, in general, genuinely want to hear the opinion of most of the posters here on that issue. If their opinions are spread out in 8 threads and I can't comment without joining in 8 discussions, and probably repeating myself 8 times, well....it's just not worth it to me. When I say I have no life I am not THAT serious.

kermelbar

04-10-2007, 10:55 PM

The biggest complaint I've been getting is that people don't feel welcome here.

Although I have never been one of the ones to say that, I can understand feeling that way.

I loooooooove the game, love it, but I'm not capable of filing away some of the details y'all can. Believe me, I sit here in awe at how you notice line changes, shift times, players favoring presumed injuries. It seems some of you don't miss a flick of an eyelash when you're at the game. Maybe it's because I'm up in God's country (next-to-last row), but I think, "How can they see those details and still follow the overall game?!" And maybe it's because I never played sports, but it seems my brain just can't file away positions, their responsibilities, plays, etc., like others can. (That doesn't mean you had to play sports to do so -- just that my brain may not be wired that way and not having played sports makes it even more impossible because I can't relate it to anything I've done.)

Nonetheless, I love the flow of the game, love the skill it takes, love the speed. While my brain may not be able to register all the details, I promise you my heart is in the right place.

Because I'm not nearly as hockey-smart as most everyone else, I'm easily intimidated around here, especially since this seems to be a really tight group, where everyone knows each other and the newbies are kind of ... I dunno how to say it without seeming as whiny as a Florida Panther and that's not at all my intent. For a long time, I felt like there was a special thread in The VIP Room where the regulars had agreed to ignore the newbies until they'd achieved a certain number of posts or been approved by the majority. Due to my previously mentioned handicaps, I'm sure my posts weren't the most brilliant writings, but it still felt like I was talking in a vacuum. And I thought, "Is it me? Is it all newbies? Is it because I'm from the ch.com boards?"

So why'd I stay? Because y'all are a knowledgeable bunch and I figure maybe my brain will pick up something. (Hey, I got that OT power-play thing straightened out, thanks to y'all and Dancing Eddie! =.) And I like to stay informed about the team. Even if my place here is simply to be 90% lurker with the occasional link or something, then that's OK.

Shell

04-10-2007, 10:56 PM

^Thanks for saving me all that typing E! :lol:

and yes, this board can be cliqueish but it is hard to avoid. If I have been friends with someone for years, I am more likely to understand where they are coming from or what they mean (and it's more likely that I will agree if we are friends and share views anyway). Obviously it is much easier to reprimand a stranger than a friend, and that isn't fair.
Anyone can be in the clique in time, but nobody starts out as a good friend on the first day.

I'll go with whatever Caniac and everyone wants, but I'll develop a hefty tic in my eye if there are 9 threads on the same subject lol.

Guyute

04-10-2007, 10:57 PM

I've been trying to stay out of this thread and just let it ride. I don't want to stunt any thought-sharing. ;)

But, I can't stay out forever. hehe. I think there's a huge difference between curtailing duplicate threads, and forcing everything to be in the same place. I too love an orderly board. But I can also agree that something like SHC's example of every trade in the NHL being in one thread, doesn't necessarily need to be that way.
I have no problem seeing things separated a little more. But like others, I don't want to have to have the same discussion in many different places.
Separate threads for like topics = sure
Separate threads for Same topics = nay.

As for being nicer, that's a given. Everyone was a n00b at once. If we remember that, things should be a lot better.
Remember when we first started and we'd explain rules of the game to people? Would explain why something was a bad idea? Instead of just taking a poke at them because they don't have any clue that it's a bad idea.

Shell

04-10-2007, 10:59 PM

Nonetheless, I love the flow of the game, love the skill it takes, love the speed. While my brain may not be able to register all the details, I promise you my heart is in the right place.

Love that, and it is all that matters.

SoCalcaniac

04-10-2007, 10:59 PM

The last time I was at another major CH board I felt like I needed a dose of Ritalin to even read it. You couldn't find anything or figure out what was being discussed where. I can't stand that cluttered nature of most boards. I can see saying you don't have to have only one single thread for every single trade made in the NHL in one season but, if we have 15 threads all essentially discussing the same ticket pricing issues, I might just not bother.

That's a huge part of why this place is unique, IMO. We ARE a community. There are 80 billion random threads about the same thing with only the opinions of a few people in each one.

I completely agree with E's point on the orderly nature of LGC, and SHC's point above. I was on CH.com once. I even registered. But they post the most mundane 'threads' which can be covered in a general thread i.e. "Trades/Done Deals" (where they'll have a thread for every player who got moved at the deadline) or threads of every single ex-hurricane signed in the off season. I like the continuous nature of a thread about a specific topic, and for me, it's not a big deal to refer back to page 10 of a 16 page thread or to resurrect a thread that was started 3 months ago.

I think this community is a unique one, in that people here exhibit their own personalities,and generally we get along, and sometimes we disagree, but in the end we all enjoy coming here to talk about our team and for some of us dorks, hockey in general, lol. from some of the other team boards, or offshoots of team boards that I've glanced at, I don't get that sense of community. And as much as I hate to even bring it up, I think the best example I have of the community we're talking about was last May when this place got invaded by some unsavory people and everyone banded together for the common good. ;)

kermelbar

04-10-2007, 11:05 PM

I want to add that while I've been more of a ch.com poster, the randomness of threads and lack of thought before starting one drives me NUTS. But I find that problem in quite a few communities I've participated in, unless the admins/mods are really on top of running a tight ship.

Guyute

04-10-2007, 11:08 PM

Cliques are a topic that some folks always have a problem with. However, on a board where a lot of people spend hours a day at, and eventually end up hanging out in real life... you're going to develop cliques. It's impossile not to.
There's a user here on the board that is treated as a noob, and normally seems drunk when posting ( ;) :lol: ), but I've known him for at least 5 years, and spend every single tailgate with him. He doesn't translate well to the boards, because he's not a big fan of the whole thing. But get him in the parking lot and you wouldn't meet a nicer guy.
There are people here I've hung out with in person for years and years. That I've had to my house. Is it fair that they get more leniency when posting? Not really... but what some may see as unfair, I see as the benefit of knowing what they mean.
It's a simple fact that sarcasm doesn't translate in text.
However, if CL, SHC, nccanes, or others say something horribly sarcastic, that someone who doesn't know them takes as a very pointed jab at them... I may see it for the joke that it was meant as.
No way around it. Wish there was, but that's just what happens when people learn each other's habits.

Maybe the solution is if you're worried about not knowing people, stop by a tailgate sometime. Crack a few brews. Things change exponentially after that. ;)
Some people may even say I'm enjoyable to be around outside of the boards.
shhhh.

nccanes

04-10-2007, 11:09 PM

There's a user here on the board that is treated as a noob, and normally seems drunk when posting, but I've known him for at least 5 years, and spend every single tailgate with him.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

(Now I realize that it's clique-ish for me to post this, because I know who Guy's referring too. But that's damn funny.)

SouthernHockeyChick

04-10-2007, 11:11 PM

I loooooooove the game, love it, but I'm not capable of filing away some of the details y'all can. Believe me, I sit here in awe at how you notice line changes, shift times, players favoring presumed injuries. It seems some of you don't miss a flick of an eyelash when you're at the game. Maybe it's because I'm up in God's country (next-to-last row), but I think, "How can they see those details and still follow the overall game?!" And maybe it's because I never played sports, but it seems my brain just can't file away positions, their responsibilities, plays, etc., like others can. (That doesn't mean you had to play sports to do so -- just that my brain may not be wired that way and not having played sports makes it even more impossible because I can't relate it to anything I've done.)

Nonetheless, I love the flow of the game, love the skill it takes, love the speed. While my brain may not be able to register all the details, I promise you my heart is in the right place.

OK, let me ask a question....how long have you been watching hockey? Because, my brain has never worked like that for any other sport in my life, either. Not that I'm one of the experts here, far from it, but after watching every single game I possibly could for about 5 or 6 years now, I notice things and retain things I never thought I would. I swear I'm losing some of it lately, though. I blame sleep deprivation, lol. I bet it will come to you!! Seriously!

For me, the evolution of my understanding of hockey has been about as amazing to me as anything else in my life, lol.

But, I never would have said you were a person who was "not nearly as hockey smart" as anyone else here. When that OT PP thing you mentioned happened the other day I remember thinking you must be sleep deprived too because I knew you knew that, lol.

Remember when we first started and we'd explain rules of the game to people? Would explain why something was a bad idea? Instead of just taking a poke at them because they don't have any clue that it's a bad idea.
It would be nice to get back to that. Although I'll say a lot more people come here now believing they are experts from the get-go, lol. Those people yelling shoot ALL the time at games think they're on to something, too. ;) (and yes, sometimes they are)

Canesluver

04-10-2007, 11:14 PM

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

(Now I realize that it's clique-ish for me to post this, because I know who Guy's referring too. But that's damn funny.)

me, too! :lol: And Guy... I fart in your general direction!

And Kemelbar -- I know what you mean. I don't dissect the game the way others do, either. I just like being entertained. Half the time-- I don't even realize a line is different than the game before! :lol:

Guyute

04-10-2007, 11:17 PM

I fart in your general direction!
I know. and it annoyes me to no end! :sick:

toxic.

Canesluver

04-10-2007, 11:20 PM

Nope! That'd be Steve's!!! :laugh:

livinthedream

04-10-2007, 11:27 PM

Caniac, first off thanks for seeking our input, that's part of what makes this board one of the best out there.

Here are my thoughts, mostly regarding the concern you raise that people (esp. newbies) don’t feel welcome here.

I think that posted board rules are a good idea (as long as it’s easy for people to find them and actually read them). TSB has a pretty decent set of community standards, and they are posted as an announcement at the top of their Forums. I also like their FAQ Thread, which is stickied so it’s easy to find (and quite entertaining ;) ). If board "traditions" are important, maybe they should be documented for newcomers.

In the board rules, I’d encourage people to use the Introductions forum to introduce themselves before they start posting. IMO, it makes a big difference when the first post you get from a newcomer is who they are and why they want to join the discussion instead of jumping into the middle of the conversation with no history or context.

TSB also has a good guideline for creating posts or threads. Basically, they tell people to post and let the mods worry about whether or not threads need to be merged or split. Personally, I like the flow of the threads on this board, and anytime I’ve created a new thread, I’ve created it with the understanding that mods will move it if they feel it’s appropriate to do so.

I don't always agree with the opinions of everyone on this board, but I agree with the right for everyone to have an opinion. I also think it's okay to challenge someone's opinion, or ask them why they have the opinion, but I don't think it's okay to just outright dismiss it. And like it or not, that does happen on this board. And I think that is one of the main reasons that folks sometimes don’t feel welcome.

I’d also suggest that if a person is not interested in a particular topic, ignoring it is often a viable option.

But none of that should come at the expense of being able to joke around and have a good time. Most of the time, people can see when someone is just trying to be clever or funny or a smartass, and if you're not sure, hell, just ask them.

My final thought (for now) is that I think it's important to remember that we've ALL just gone through a very disappointing and frustrating season for our team, and this board is a microcosm of that season. There’s inconsistency, there’s fighting in the locker room, there are folks thinking the coaches need to be replaced. There are veterans, and folks that come into the system with all intentions of working out but for whatever reason it just doesn’t. And sometimes that’s okay too. I guess what I’m saying is that it’s okay to tweak, but the team doesn’t need an overhaul.

Oh, and winning cures a lot of ills. ;)

puck_it

04-10-2007, 11:42 PM

As for being nicer, that's a given. Everyone was a n00b at once. If we remember that, things should be a lot better.

hay guys remember me? :beatup:

Shell

04-10-2007, 11:48 PM

There was no one I wanted to ban more in my life than you when you were a n00b LOL :kiss:

Then again, a few years before that, I thought i was going to get banned when I was new too. It was probably pretty close. Luckily that was before the great board crash and all of those posts are gone :p

puck_it

04-10-2007, 11:54 PM

any how my whole thing is, yeah its different here... but dont come here thinking the board will conform to you. that's what really turns me off about new members. I wasnt trying to change the flow of the boards when i came, i eventually learned what was going on and people learned my weird ass personality. If I came and said, "well this isnt how we do it at this other board, its ridiculous that you dont do it that way"... I'd have deserved the boot. And people have come here basically saying that.

Guyute

04-11-2007, 08:37 AM

Yeah I used to want to kick your arse puck_it. :lol:

But you're right on the money. People shouldn't come into your house and ridicule you for how you do things, or expect you to do things their way just because they like it better that way. Yet that does happen here.

corylav

04-11-2007, 09:07 AM

Instead of "Hurricane Force Internet" we could have, "Don't be a d!ck, and we won't be d!cks" :D

kermelbar

04-11-2007, 09:07 AM

But you're right on the money. People shouldn't come into your house and ridicule you for how you do things, or expect you to do things their way just because they like it better that way. Yet that does happen here.

Which is why I never said anything to Caniac. First, I know there's a getting-to-know-you adjustment period, but I also knew this wasn't "my house" and it'd be ludicrous to expect a long-standing community to change for me. If I find I can't adapt to house rules, then I simply stop visiting that community, whether it's this one or some other. (And there's one that I did stop visiting because there were way too many post whores and I got worn out from scrolling through countless posts that were nothing more that a person's short replies because they were trying to boost their post totals. Because, y'know, that's a real evaluation of something.)

OK, let me ask a question....how long have you been watching hockey? Because, my brain has never worked like that for any other sport in my life, either. Not that I'm one of the experts here, far from it, but after watching every single game I possibly could for about 5 or 6 years now, I notice things and retain things I never thought I would. I swear I'm losing some of it lately, though. I blame sleep deprivation, lol. I bet it will come to you!! Seriously!

I think my retaining is what sucks. =.) When I finally made it to a game during the '05-'06 season, I looked at my seatmate and said, "I feel totally lost! I used to know this game!" And it seems I once knew more than I know now and whether that's the lockout, purging memory files to make room for other stuff or just sleep deprivation (which seems quite likely anymore), I dunno. Maybe I'll take some time this summer to really brush up on stuff and have a bit more knowledge on hand and in head for '07-'08. =.)

VandyCane

04-11-2007, 09:59 AM

Thanks for posting this Caniac. I agree that a little reigning back is necessary. I don't like multiple posts on the same subject but at the same time I think there is a little too much lumping in the general topics threads as well. I guess I'm more of a splitter. :lol: Heck I've been posting on here for years (even though my post total's don't reflect it ;)) and I rarely like to start a new topic 'cause I figure someone will comment that it doesn't deserve a new thread. It shouldn't be that way.

I agree that newbies walk a fine line but I hate the extra short leash we have sometimes. Give people a chance unless they start being asses from the start. The other issue that others have brought up is disagreements. Sometimes people had said "well you'd have to be a moron (or idiot, etc) to think that." I hate that especially when I see it from a board veteran. Chances are I agree with that sentiment but there are ways to disagree and have a discussion without outright namecalling. State why you think that or ask the poster to explain themselves. That's what makes discussions interesting. Sometimes people post thoughts/opinions I hadn't considered and I find myself a better fan for at least thinking about it.

aftermath

04-11-2007, 10:23 AM

Caniac, props to you and all of the administrators/moderators for making this the best board for Hurricanes' fans. I seriously mean that. I really appreciate the fact that you guys will not allow any trolling whatsoever. I can always count on this board for the latest information on the 'Canes, for SoCal's detailed practice reports, for varied opinions on related topics, and for a good laugh now and then. I love the sense of humor that many posters have. And although I have never met any of the posters in person, this is a great, devoted cross-section of Canes' fans, and I am thrilled to be a part of it.

In reading this thread, I decided to go over to the ch.com board just to re-acquaint myself with what is going on over there. :crazy: Big mistake! I realize that we have several people here who post there as well, and all I can say is, you guys must have thicker skin than I do. I used to post there myself, until I grew ever increasingly frustrated with the chaos that exists there. Sabres' fans get by with basically anything. Banning seems to be non-existent in that forum. There is a disgruntled Hartford Whalers fan who posts all the time. He constantly puts down the 'Canes and makes it invariably known that he hates this organization and wants to see it fail. Do you think he has ever been banned? Of course not. It really is pathetic. Not to mention that there are numerous threads about things that no one really even cares about. I long ago decided that frequenting that board is hazardous to my health. It is because those types of things aren't allowed here that lgc.com has become my board of choice.

That being said, lgc.com isn't perfect. I agree with those who have mentioned that they sometimes don't feel welcome here. Sometimes rebuttal comments are directed at posters that are completely unnecessary. A reply may have been intended as tongue-in-cheek, but it may not be interpreted that way. I don't always agree with everything that is written, but if I decide to post my opinion, I make every effort not to belittle the person I am disagreeing with. I respect that everyone has his/her own opinion, and it isn't my place to make that person feel stupid simply because I disagree with them.

Overall, the pros of lgc.com definitely outweigh the cons.

puck_it

04-11-2007, 11:05 AM

There was no one I wanted to ban more in my life than you when you were a n00b LOL :kiss: Yeah I used to want to kick your arse puck_it. :lol:

and these people have since invited me into their home...

though i had to bail.. :(
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thanks o those who have provided insightful comments. I'd just like to say dont hesitate in the future to PM one of us, besides just caniac, if you think we did something screwey. If you've been an established poster, we'll take what you have to say to heart... Or if you think some things are getting 'insensitive' towards one person. I read jsut about every post, but sometimes we dont catch stuff right away. And when that happens things have escalated in the past.

We're just like you guys, only we're the Designated Sabres Fans Kicker Outers.

StormShaman

04-11-2007, 02:32 PM

Instead of "Hurricane Force Internet" we could have, "Don't be a d!ck, and we won't be d!cks" :D

I prefer the more family-friendly version (which was once uttered to a vendor by Job (one of my co-workers, for those who read Tales Of A Stop-n-Rob)):

"You are good for us, then we are good for you."

:D

corylav

04-11-2007, 02:58 PM

While I don't necessarily prefer your version (depends on the situation), I do always appreciate parentheses inside parentheses. :D

caniac369

04-11-2007, 03:39 PM

Maybe the solution is if you're worried about not knowing people, stop by a tailgate sometime. Crack a few brews. Things change exponentially after that. ;)
Some people may even say I'm enjoyable to be around outside of the boards.
shhhh.

Tailgating is a wonderful social aspect to this board. And don't worry- if your spouse almost blows everyone up because he got carried away with the charcoal fluid, the good folk here won't hold it against you!! :D

And yes, Guy does become tollarable after 1 or 2... or 10. ;)

Guyute

04-11-2007, 03:41 PM

As tolerable as you are :D

(with ear plugs)

caniac369

04-11-2007, 05:07 PM

^ Yeah, those women that sat 3 rows in front of Kat & I 3 years ago at that Leafs game thought so... :D

Pirate Caniac

04-11-2007, 10:03 PM

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In reading this thread, I decided to go over to the ch.com board just to re-acquaint myself with what is going on over there. :crazy: Big mistake! I realize that we have several people here who post there as well, and all I can say is, you guys must have thicker skin than I do. I used to post there myself, until I grew ever increasingly frustrated with the chaos that exists there. Sabres' fans get by with basically anything. Banning seems to be non-existent in that forum. There is a disgruntled Hartford Whalers fan who posts all the time. He constantly puts down the 'Canes and makes it invariably known that he hates this organization and wants to see it fail. Do you think he has ever been banned? Of course not. It really is pathetic. Not to mention that there are numerous threads about things that no one really even cares about. I long ago decided that frequenting that board is hazardous to my health. It is because those types of things aren't allowed here that lgc.com has become my board of choice.
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This is my first post on this board, but it's just exactly what you say here that has lead me to read this board and finally register today after lurking here for some time, after dealing with all those things at ch.com.

It's nice to read a board that is truly for the fans of the Canes, and where we don't have to worry about being bashed by the fans of other teams for supporting our team.

So thanks, and I look forward to getting to know everyone here. :)