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nccanes
03-20-2003, 09:01 PM
I almost posted this last night (as I read it elsewhere), but chose not to. Tonight my son was flipping thru the CI channels and caught the beginning of the Canadiens game and said that the announcers said that the crowd (again) boo'ed the Star Spangled Banner. :mad:

I've also read elsewhere that there is a decent contingent (35+) going up for the game thru the Booster organization (FolgersDad too), so they will get to experience that first hand. :sad:

nccanes
03-20-2003, 09:01 PM
I almost posted this last night (as I read it elsewhere), but chose not to. Tonight my son was flipping thru the CI channels and caught the beginning of the Canadiens game and said that the announcers said that the crowd (again) boo'ed the Star Spangled Banner. :mad:

I've also read elsewhere that there is a decent contingent (35+) going up for the game thru the Booster organization (FolgersDad too), so they will get to experience that first hand. :sad:

nccanes
03-20-2003, 09:01 PM
I almost posted this last night (as I read it elsewhere), but chose not to. Tonight my son was flipping thru the CI channels and caught the beginning of the Canadiens game and said that the announcers said that the crowd (again) boo'ed the Star Spangled Banner. :mad:

I've also read elsewhere that there is a decent contingent (35+) going up for the game thru the Booster organization (FolgersDad too), so they will get to experience that first hand. :sad:

Stormbringer
03-20-2003, 09:39 PM
There is nothing I hate more than others showing a disrespect for our nation and/or its anthem. Montreal's fans should be kicked. I will be up there on my usual tour of duty tomorrow evening and Saturday...perhaps I will "lecture" the Habs supporters on the meaning of respect. (pats her hockey stick) :evil:

Seriously, as much as I hate the Montreal fans booing our anthem, it really is not much of a surprise considering the times. :sad:

Stormbringer
03-20-2003, 09:39 PM
There is nothing I hate more than others showing a disrespect for our nation and/or its anthem. Montreal's fans should be kicked. I will be up there on my usual tour of duty tomorrow evening and Saturday...perhaps I will "lecture" the Habs supporters on the meaning of respect. (pats her hockey stick) :evil:

Seriously, as much as I hate the Montreal fans booing our anthem, it really is not much of a surprise considering the times. :sad:

Stormbringer
03-20-2003, 09:39 PM
There is nothing I hate more than others showing a disrespect for our nation and/or its anthem. Montreal's fans should be kicked. I will be up there on my usual tour of duty tomorrow evening and Saturday...perhaps I will "lecture" the Habs supporters on the meaning of respect. (pats her hockey stick) :evil:

Seriously, as much as I hate the Montreal fans booing our anthem, it really is not much of a surprise considering the times. :sad:

raleighcanesfan
03-20-2003, 10:43 PM
Seriously, as much as I hate the Montreal fans booing our anthem, it really is not much of a surprise considering the times. :sad:

It wouldn't be a surprise for some psychos with no morals. Yes, I am anti-war and believe in freedom of speech, flag burning what have you, but that's a blantant sign of disrespect.

Kind of like planting a coin in center ice (Growls at the true meaning of that) in a hockey game. Disrespect.

raleighcanesfan
03-20-2003, 10:43 PM
Seriously, as much as I hate the Montreal fans booing our anthem, it really is not much of a surprise considering the times. :sad:

It wouldn't be a surprise for some psychos with no morals. Yes, I am anti-war and believe in freedom of speech, flag burning what have you, but that's a blantant sign of disrespect.

Kind of like planting a coin in center ice (Growls at the true meaning of that) in a hockey game. Disrespect.

raleighcanesfan
03-20-2003, 10:43 PM
Seriously, as much as I hate the Montreal fans booing our anthem, it really is not much of a surprise considering the times. :sad:

It wouldn't be a surprise for some psychos with no morals. Yes, I am anti-war and believe in freedom of speech, flag burning what have you, but that's a blantant sign of disrespect.

Kind of like planting a coin in center ice (Growls at the true meaning of that) in a hockey game. Disrespect.

folgersnyourcup
03-20-2003, 10:50 PM
I hadn't heard this. Thanks for posting! My dad is attending the game along with my brother and he had told me also that many booster club members are going as well. I'll let him know in case he hadn't heard already so he isn't totally surprised by it. It probably crosesd his mind that they might be doing this though.

folgersnyourcup
03-20-2003, 10:50 PM
I hadn't heard this. Thanks for posting! My dad is attending the game along with my brother and he had told me also that many booster club members are going as well. I'll let him know in case he hadn't heard already so he isn't totally surprised by it. It probably crosesd his mind that they might be doing this though.

folgersnyourcup
03-20-2003, 10:50 PM
I hadn't heard this. Thanks for posting! My dad is attending the game along with my brother and he had told me also that many booster club members are going as well. I'll let him know in case he hadn't heard already so he isn't totally surprised by it. It probably crosesd his mind that they might be doing this though.

Stormbringer
03-20-2003, 10:52 PM
Seriously, as much as I hate the Montreal fans booing our anthem, it really is not much of a surprise considering the times. :sad:

It wouldn't be a surprise for some psychos with no morals. Yes, I am anti-war and believe in freedom of speech, flag burning what have you, but that's a blantant sign of disrespect.

I wasn't just doing the :sad: regarding the times RCF, but also AND ESPECIALLY the fact that ANY fans, in Montreal or elsewhere, would stoop so low to boo an anthem. Last I checked, nobody boos "O Canada!" and other nations' anthems here, and that's something I hope never stops, regardless of how people in Montreal and elsewhere treat our anthem.

Stormbringer
03-20-2003, 10:52 PM
Seriously, as much as I hate the Montreal fans booing our anthem, it really is not much of a surprise considering the times. :sad:

It wouldn't be a surprise for some psychos with no morals. Yes, I am anti-war and believe in freedom of speech, flag burning what have you, but that's a blantant sign of disrespect.

I wasn't just doing the :sad: regarding the times RCF, but also AND ESPECIALLY the fact that ANY fans, in Montreal or elsewhere, would stoop so low to boo an anthem. Last I checked, nobody boos "O Canada!" and other nations' anthems here, and that's something I hope never stops, regardless of how people in Montreal and elsewhere treat our anthem.

Stormbringer
03-20-2003, 10:52 PM
Seriously, as much as I hate the Montreal fans booing our anthem, it really is not much of a surprise considering the times. :sad:

It wouldn't be a surprise for some psychos with no morals. Yes, I am anti-war and believe in freedom of speech, flag burning what have you, but that's a blantant sign of disrespect.

I wasn't just doing the :sad: regarding the times RCF, but also AND ESPECIALLY the fact that ANY fans, in Montreal or elsewhere, would stoop so low to boo an anthem. Last I checked, nobody boos "O Canada!" and other nations' anthems here, and that's something I hope never stops, regardless of how people in Montreal and elsewhere treat our anthem.

folgersnyourcup
03-20-2003, 10:59 PM
Speaking of booing, wasn't there a few incidents of similar sorts back in last year's Toronto/New York Islanders playoff series? I seem to remember the Canadian anthem being booed at one Islanders game after the hit on Michael Peca.....I could be wrong though, it popped into my mind just now though. It's definitely disrespectful though.

folgersnyourcup
03-20-2003, 10:59 PM
Speaking of booing, wasn't there a few incidents of similar sorts back in last year's Toronto/New York Islanders playoff series? I seem to remember the Canadian anthem being booed at one Islanders game after the hit on Michael Peca.....I could be wrong though, it popped into my mind just now though. It's definitely disrespectful though.

folgersnyourcup
03-20-2003, 10:59 PM
Speaking of booing, wasn't there a few incidents of similar sorts back in last year's Toronto/New York Islanders playoff series? I seem to remember the Canadian anthem being booed at one Islanders game after the hit on Michael Peca.....I could be wrong though, it popped into my mind just now though. It's definitely disrespectful though.

raleighcanesfan
03-20-2003, 11:00 PM
Oops...I hate how posts cannot show the tone of a post. I hope you didn't take my comments as harsh to you. Just angry how in the worst of times, we see what people really think.

Sad how low people can be, but I guess that's what this war's all about...

raleighcanesfan
03-20-2003, 11:00 PM
Oops...I hate how posts cannot show the tone of a post. I hope you didn't take my comments as harsh to you. Just angry how in the worst of times, we see what people really think.

Sad how low people can be, but I guess that's what this war's all about...

raleighcanesfan
03-20-2003, 11:00 PM
Oops...I hate how posts cannot show the tone of a post. I hope you didn't take my comments as harsh to you. Just angry how in the worst of times, we see what people really think.

Sad how low people can be, but I guess that's what this war's all about...

Stormbringer
03-20-2003, 11:17 PM
Speaking of booing, wasn't there a few incidents of similar sorts back in last year's Toronto/New York Islanders playoff series? I seem to remember the Canadian anthem being booed at one Islanders game after the hit on Michael Peca.....I could be wrong though, it popped into my mind just now though. It's definitely disrespectful though.

Now that you mentioned it Folgers, I seem to recall that incident myself. If they really did boo "O Canada!", that is just stupid and disrespectful. Even though I can't stand the Leafs, I would never boo "O Canada!" because of them, or anything for that matter...and the same applies to other anthems.

And RCF, I didn't find your comments too harsh...just felt the need to clarify that I do not support Montreal fans' sentiments toward our anthem AND the need to boo such a thing.

Stormbringer
03-20-2003, 11:17 PM
Speaking of booing, wasn't there a few incidents of similar sorts back in last year's Toronto/New York Islanders playoff series? I seem to remember the Canadian anthem being booed at one Islanders game after the hit on Michael Peca.....I could be wrong though, it popped into my mind just now though. It's definitely disrespectful though.

Now that you mentioned it Folgers, I seem to recall that incident myself. If they really did boo "O Canada!", that is just stupid and disrespectful. Even though I can't stand the Leafs, I would never boo "O Canada!" because of them, or anything for that matter...and the same applies to other anthems.

And RCF, I didn't find your comments too harsh...just felt the need to clarify that I do not support Montreal fans' sentiments toward our anthem AND the need to boo such a thing.

Stormbringer
03-20-2003, 11:17 PM
Speaking of booing, wasn't there a few incidents of similar sorts back in last year's Toronto/New York Islanders playoff series? I seem to remember the Canadian anthem being booed at one Islanders game after the hit on Michael Peca.....I could be wrong though, it popped into my mind just now though. It's definitely disrespectful though.

Now that you mentioned it Folgers, I seem to recall that incident myself. If they really did boo "O Canada!", that is just stupid and disrespectful. Even though I can't stand the Leafs, I would never boo "O Canada!" because of them, or anything for that matter...and the same applies to other anthems.

And RCF, I didn't find your comments too harsh...just felt the need to clarify that I do not support Montreal fans' sentiments toward our anthem AND the need to boo such a thing.

tommy
03-21-2003, 07:33 AM
Well it's no wonder. They were overdue to act like the wine-and-cheese, fair-weather, moron fans that they are. (I know the first two adjectives have nothing to do with the booing, I just felt like including them ;))

If you want to protest the war, go downtown in whatever city you're in and stop the traffic or something. Keep it out of the damn arenas.

tommy
03-21-2003, 07:33 AM
Well it's no wonder. They were overdue to act like the wine-and-cheese, fair-weather, moron fans that they are. (I know the first two adjectives have nothing to do with the booing, I just felt like including them ;))

If you want to protest the war, go downtown in whatever city you're in and stop the traffic or something. Keep it out of the damn arenas.

tommy
03-21-2003, 07:33 AM
Well it's no wonder. They were overdue to act like the wine-and-cheese, fair-weather, moron fans that they are. (I know the first two adjectives have nothing to do with the booing, I just felt like including them ;))

If you want to protest the war, go downtown in whatever city you're in and stop the traffic or something. Keep it out of the damn arenas.

Jillsdad
03-21-2003, 07:34 AM
One thing everybody must realize. The people who booed our national anthem are FRENCH Canadians and as such must be expected to pull ridiculous crap like that. Another reason we need to disown the French and anything associated with France.

Jillsdad
03-21-2003, 07:34 AM
One thing everybody must realize. The people who booed our national anthem are FRENCH Canadians and as such must be expected to pull ridiculous crap like that. Another reason we need to disown the French and anything associated with France.

Jillsdad
03-21-2003, 07:34 AM
One thing everybody must realize. The people who booed our national anthem are FRENCH Canadians and as such must be expected to pull ridiculous crap like that. Another reason we need to disown the French and anything associated with France.

nccanes
03-21-2003, 08:58 AM
Fans boo as U.S. national anthem is played
March 21, 2003
MONTREAL (AP) -- Fans booed during the playing of the U.S. national anthem before the New York Islanders' 6-3 victory over the Montreal Canadiens on Thursday night.

The sellout crowd of 21,273 at Bell Centre was asked to ``show your support and respect for two great nations'' before the singing of the American and Canadian national anthems.

But a significant portion of the crowd booed throughout ``The Star-Spangled Banner'' in an apparent display of their displeasure with the U.S.-led war against Iraq. More than 200,000 people turned out for an anti-war demonstration in Montreal last Saturday.

``I'm sure there are a lot of people against the war, but some things people can't control,'' said New York's Alexei Yashin, who is from Russia. ``They were probably showing what they feel about it.''

Teammate Mark Parrish, a native of Bloomington, Minn., was upset hearing the boos. ``I came to the game pretty pumped up, but once I heard that it really got me going,'' Parrish said. ``So I guess I can thank them a little bit for getting me more pumped up.''



I hope the Canes have a similar reaction!!

nccanes
03-21-2003, 08:58 AM
Fans boo as U.S. national anthem is played
March 21, 2003
MONTREAL (AP) -- Fans booed during the playing of the U.S. national anthem before the New York Islanders' 6-3 victory over the Montreal Canadiens on Thursday night.

The sellout crowd of 21,273 at Bell Centre was asked to ``show your support and respect for two great nations'' before the singing of the American and Canadian national anthems.

But a significant portion of the crowd booed throughout ``The Star-Spangled Banner'' in an apparent display of their displeasure with the U.S.-led war against Iraq. More than 200,000 people turned out for an anti-war demonstration in Montreal last Saturday.

``I'm sure there are a lot of people against the war, but some things people can't control,'' said New York's Alexei Yashin, who is from Russia. ``They were probably showing what they feel about it.''

Teammate Mark Parrish, a native of Bloomington, Minn., was upset hearing the boos. ``I came to the game pretty pumped up, but once I heard that it really got me going,'' Parrish said. ``So I guess I can thank them a little bit for getting me more pumped up.''



I hope the Canes have a similar reaction!!

nccanes
03-21-2003, 08:58 AM
Fans boo as U.S. national anthem is played
March 21, 2003
MONTREAL (AP) -- Fans booed during the playing of the U.S. national anthem before the New York Islanders' 6-3 victory over the Montreal Canadiens on Thursday night.

The sellout crowd of 21,273 at Bell Centre was asked to ``show your support and respect for two great nations'' before the singing of the American and Canadian national anthems.

But a significant portion of the crowd booed throughout ``The Star-Spangled Banner'' in an apparent display of their displeasure with the U.S.-led war against Iraq. More than 200,000 people turned out for an anti-war demonstration in Montreal last Saturday.

``I'm sure there are a lot of people against the war, but some things people can't control,'' said New York's Alexei Yashin, who is from Russia. ``They were probably showing what they feel about it.''

Teammate Mark Parrish, a native of Bloomington, Minn., was upset hearing the boos. ``I came to the game pretty pumped up, but once I heard that it really got me going,'' Parrish said. ``So I guess I can thank them a little bit for getting me more pumped up.''



I hope the Canes have a similar reaction!!

StormShaman
03-21-2003, 09:15 AM
One thing everybody must realize. The people who booed our national anthem are FRENCH Canadians and as such must be expected to pull ridiculous crap like that. Another reason we need to disown the French and anything associated with France.

*ahem*

Speaking as somebody with both FRENCH and FRENCH Canadian blood, I can quite unequivocally say that Quebec is not and has nothing at all to do with France--and any Quebecois that you talk to will tell you that, just as any Frenchman that you talk to will tell you the same thing.

To equate the two is sheer ignorance, not to mention more than a little insulting to the people of Quebec.

StormShaman
03-21-2003, 09:15 AM
One thing everybody must realize. The people who booed our national anthem are FRENCH Canadians and as such must be expected to pull ridiculous crap like that. Another reason we need to disown the French and anything associated with France.

*ahem*

Speaking as somebody with both FRENCH and FRENCH Canadian blood, I can quite unequivocally say that Quebec is not and has nothing at all to do with France--and any Quebecois that you talk to will tell you that, just as any Frenchman that you talk to will tell you the same thing.

To equate the two is sheer ignorance, not to mention more than a little insulting to the people of Quebec.

StormShaman
03-21-2003, 09:15 AM
One thing everybody must realize. The people who booed our national anthem are FRENCH Canadians and as such must be expected to pull ridiculous crap like that. Another reason we need to disown the French and anything associated with France.

*ahem*

Speaking as somebody with both FRENCH and FRENCH Canadian blood, I can quite unequivocally say that Quebec is not and has nothing at all to do with France--and any Quebecois that you talk to will tell you that, just as any Frenchman that you talk to will tell you the same thing.

To equate the two is sheer ignorance, not to mention more than a little insulting to the people of Quebec.

Original Six
03-21-2003, 09:16 AM
not much to add, but it is complete B.S. to boo anyone's anthem. You don't like what is being played, fine, just sit ther with your mouth shut util it is over. Hell, i remember people singing O Canada during the playoffs last season. I also remember Theodore skating away from hs line towards his goal while the US anthem played, pissed me off big time. None of the canes skated away during O Canada. :mad:

Original Six
03-21-2003, 09:16 AM
not much to add, but it is complete B.S. to boo anyone's anthem. You don't like what is being played, fine, just sit ther with your mouth shut util it is over. Hell, i remember people singing O Canada during the playoffs last season. I also remember Theodore skating away from hs line towards his goal while the US anthem played, pissed me off big time. None of the canes skated away during O Canada. :mad:

Original Six
03-21-2003, 09:16 AM
not much to add, but it is complete B.S. to boo anyone's anthem. You don't like what is being played, fine, just sit ther with your mouth shut util it is over. Hell, i remember people singing O Canada during the playoffs last season. I also remember Theodore skating away from hs line towards his goal while the US anthem played, pissed me off big time. None of the canes skated away during O Canada. :mad:

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 09:18 AM
Kind of like planting a coin in center ice (Growls at the true meaning of that) in a hockey game. Disrespect.

LOL, I think that was just for the sake of "MOJO" not an Anti-War statement. I think that booing your national anthem was very distasteful, and I would not be party to it either.

Aaryn

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 09:18 AM
Kind of like planting a coin in center ice (Growls at the true meaning of that) in a hockey game. Disrespect.

LOL, I think that was just for the sake of "MOJO" not an Anti-War statement. I think that booing your national anthem was very distasteful, and I would not be party to it either.

Aaryn

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 09:18 AM
Kind of like planting a coin in center ice (Growls at the true meaning of that) in a hockey game. Disrespect.

LOL, I think that was just for the sake of "MOJO" not an Anti-War statement. I think that booing your national anthem was very distasteful, and I would not be party to it either.

Aaryn

JaroFan
03-21-2003, 10:54 AM
I also remember people booing our anthem last year during the playoffs, right after some Canadian troops had been killed by friendly fire in Afghanistan. We talked to some very nice Toronto fans during a game who said they wouldn't dream of doing that, it was just ignorant people.

JaroFan
03-21-2003, 10:54 AM
I also remember people booing our anthem last year during the playoffs, right after some Canadian troops had been killed by friendly fire in Afghanistan. We talked to some very nice Toronto fans during a game who said they wouldn't dream of doing that, it was just ignorant people.

JaroFan
03-21-2003, 10:54 AM
I also remember people booing our anthem last year during the playoffs, right after some Canadian troops had been killed by friendly fire in Afghanistan. We talked to some very nice Toronto fans during a game who said they wouldn't dream of doing that, it was just ignorant people.

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 11:20 AM
Remember we ARE talking about Habs fans here. How bright are they really?

Aaryn

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 11:20 AM
Remember we ARE talking about Habs fans here. How bright are they really?

Aaryn

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 11:20 AM
Remember we ARE talking about Habs fans here. How bright are they really?

Aaryn

JaroFan
03-21-2003, 11:31 AM
But let Canada get attacked by someone and see who they come to asking for help.

JaroFan
03-21-2003, 11:31 AM
But let Canada get attacked by someone and see who they come to asking for help.

JaroFan
03-21-2003, 11:31 AM
But let Canada get attacked by someone and see who they come to asking for help.

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 11:41 AM
Don't go there Jaro. Just because some dumbass Habs fans were disrespectful, don't go lumping all of us Canadians together. For the most part, we just like drinkin' and being mellow.

Wouldn't it be funny to hear the distress call if we did attack someone....

"Help, we're being attacked by Canada!"
"Yeah right, is this a prank call? Just offer them some beer. they'll calm down."

Aaryn

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 11:41 AM
Don't go there Jaro. Just because some dumbass Habs fans were disrespectful, don't go lumping all of us Canadians together. For the most part, we just like drinkin' and being mellow.

Wouldn't it be funny to hear the distress call if we did attack someone....

"Help, we're being attacked by Canada!"
"Yeah right, is this a prank call? Just offer them some beer. they'll calm down."

Aaryn

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 11:41 AM
Don't go there Jaro. Just because some dumbass Habs fans were disrespectful, don't go lumping all of us Canadians together. For the most part, we just like drinkin' and being mellow.

Wouldn't it be funny to hear the distress call if we did attack someone....

"Help, we're being attacked by Canada!"
"Yeah right, is this a prank call? Just offer them some beer. they'll calm down."

Aaryn

Stormbringer
03-21-2003, 12:03 PM
Well, I don't know about being attacked by Canada...but the US once considered invading Canada after World War I...

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcanadawar.html

:crazy: (insert Twilight Zone theme here) :crazy:

Stormbringer
03-21-2003, 12:03 PM
Well, I don't know about being attacked by Canada...but the US once considered invading Canada after World War I...

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcanadawar.html

:crazy: (insert Twilight Zone theme here) :crazy:

Stormbringer
03-21-2003, 12:03 PM
Well, I don't know about being attacked by Canada...but the US once considered invading Canada after World War I...

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcanadawar.html

:crazy: (insert Twilight Zone theme here) :crazy:

MoBigRed
03-21-2003, 12:38 PM
Well, I don't know about being attacked by Canada...but the US once considered invading Canada after World War I...

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcanadawar.html

:crazy: (insert Twilight Zone theme here) :crazy:


That's just bizarre. Granted, it was really just a bunch of insane 'busypaperwork', but bizarre nonetheless. Ludicrous. The closest the US and Canada will ever come to war is if the Leafs and Wings make it to the Finals.

MoBigRed
03-21-2003, 12:38 PM
Well, I don't know about being attacked by Canada...but the US once considered invading Canada after World War I...

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcanadawar.html

:crazy: (insert Twilight Zone theme here) :crazy:


That's just bizarre. Granted, it was really just a bunch of insane 'busypaperwork', but bizarre nonetheless. Ludicrous. The closest the US and Canada will ever come to war is if the Leafs and Wings make it to the Finals.

MoBigRed
03-21-2003, 12:38 PM
Well, I don't know about being attacked by Canada...but the US once considered invading Canada after World War I...

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcanadawar.html

:crazy: (insert Twilight Zone theme here) :crazy:


That's just bizarre. Granted, it was really just a bunch of insane 'busypaperwork', but bizarre nonetheless. Ludicrous. The closest the US and Canada will ever come to war is if the Leafs and Wings make it to the Finals.

Stormbringer
03-21-2003, 12:43 PM
The closest the US and Canada will ever come to war is if the Leafs and Wings make it to the Finals.

And now that you've said that, it probably will happen... :sick:

Stormbringer
03-21-2003, 12:43 PM
The closest the US and Canada will ever come to war is if the Leafs and Wings make it to the Finals.

And now that you've said that, it probably will happen... :sick:

Stormbringer
03-21-2003, 12:43 PM
The closest the US and Canada will ever come to war is if the Leafs and Wings make it to the Finals.

And now that you've said that, it probably will happen... :sick:

lvscolencanes
03-21-2003, 12:53 PM
I dont know about yall, but that would be sweet to watch, that would be about a big of war, as the one going on now.... :mad:
Dont like either team, and dont want either one to go, except to watch them mutilate each other...
I hope some tasteful team actually make it....needed to fix that... :eek2:

lvscolencanes
03-21-2003, 12:53 PM
I dont know about yall, but that would be sweet to watch, that would be about a big of war, as the one going on now.... :mad:
Dont like either team, and dont want either one to go, except to watch them mutilate each other...
I hope some tasteful team actually make it....needed to fix that... :eek2:

lvscolencanes
03-21-2003, 12:53 PM
I dont know about yall, but that would be sweet to watch, that would be about a big of war, as the one going on now.... :mad:
Dont like either team, and dont want either one to go, except to watch them mutilate each other...
I hope some tasteful team actually make it....needed to fix that... :eek2:

Caniac
03-21-2003, 12:54 PM
Considering we're the only people protecting them, that seems a little disrespectful to me.

That's ok though. Everytime I hear the Canadian national anthem, I laugh hysterically.

Caniac
03-21-2003, 12:54 PM
Considering we're the only people protecting them, that seems a little disrespectful to me.

That's ok though. Everytime I hear the Canadian national anthem, I laugh hysterically.

Caniac
03-21-2003, 12:54 PM
Considering we're the only people protecting them, that seems a little disrespectful to me.

That's ok though. Everytime I hear the Canadian national anthem, I laugh hysterically.

lvscolencanes
03-21-2003, 12:55 PM
me too!!

lvscolencanes
03-21-2003, 12:55 PM
me too!!

lvscolencanes
03-21-2003, 12:55 PM
me too!!

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 01:30 PM
Folks, this is starting to get personal. Let's just get a little perspective before someone says something. This was an incident that I am not justifying. This was an ignorant statement by some people who were voicing an opinion at a time where respect should be paid. Let's not go bashing my fellow Canadians and I because of some dumbass Montreal Canadians fans. There is no reason for us to make this a Canada vs USA issue. The war is over in Iraq and I would hope we can leave it there and not bring it into lgc.com. Thanks.

Aaryn

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 01:30 PM
Folks, this is starting to get personal. Let's just get a little perspective before someone says something. This was an incident that I am not justifying. This was an ignorant statement by some people who were voicing an opinion at a time where respect should be paid. Let's not go bashing my fellow Canadians and I because of some dumbass Montreal Canadians fans. There is no reason for us to make this a Canada vs USA issue. The war is over in Iraq and I would hope we can leave it there and not bring it into lgc.com. Thanks.

Aaryn

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 01:30 PM
Folks, this is starting to get personal. Let's just get a little perspective before someone says something. This was an incident that I am not justifying. This was an ignorant statement by some people who were voicing an opinion at a time where respect should be paid. Let's not go bashing my fellow Canadians and I because of some dumbass Montreal Canadians fans. There is no reason for us to make this a Canada vs USA issue. The war is over in Iraq and I would hope we can leave it there and not bring it into lgc.com. Thanks.

Aaryn

crazy4canes
03-21-2003, 01:31 PM
I just hope this doesn't cause a backlash when the Maple Leafs and Canadiens come here. I would like to think our fellow caniacs will show some class and not boo the Canadian anthem just because of some ignorant jackholes in Montreal. :mad:

crazy4canes
03-21-2003, 01:31 PM
I just hope this doesn't cause a backlash when the Maple Leafs and Canadiens come here. I would like to think our fellow caniacs will show some class and not boo the Canadian anthem just because of some ignorant jackholes in Montreal. :mad:

crazy4canes
03-21-2003, 01:31 PM
I just hope this doesn't cause a backlash when the Maple Leafs and Canadiens come here. I would like to think our fellow caniacs will show some class and not boo the Canadian anthem just because of some ignorant jackholes in Montreal. :mad:

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 01:36 PM
I just hope this doesn't cause a backlash when the Maple Leafs and Canadiens come here. I would like to think our fellow caniacs will show some class and not boo the Canadian anthem just because of some ignorant jackholes in Montreal. :mad:

Amen

Aaryn

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 01:36 PM
I just hope this doesn't cause a backlash when the Maple Leafs and Canadiens come here. I would like to think our fellow caniacs will show some class and not boo the Canadian anthem just because of some ignorant jackholes in Montreal. :mad:

Amen

Aaryn

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 01:36 PM
I just hope this doesn't cause a backlash when the Maple Leafs and Canadiens come here. I would like to think our fellow caniacs will show some class and not boo the Canadian anthem just because of some ignorant jackholes in Montreal. :mad:

Amen

Aaryn

Caniac
03-21-2003, 01:38 PM
It's always those people that end up being the voice of entire nations, since normal people don't do that sort of thing.

But 200,000 people clogging streets in Montreal? Get real. If you want to do something, volunteer at a hospital or a soup kitchen or something as your form of protest. Do something good during a time when you think bad things are happening. Don't make them worse, and shut down streets and stores and anything else...

Caniac
03-21-2003, 01:38 PM
It's always those people that end up being the voice of entire nations, since normal people don't do that sort of thing.

But 200,000 people clogging streets in Montreal? Get real. If you want to do something, volunteer at a hospital or a soup kitchen or something as your form of protest. Do something good during a time when you think bad things are happening. Don't make them worse, and shut down streets and stores and anything else...

Caniac
03-21-2003, 01:38 PM
It's always those people that end up being the voice of entire nations, since normal people don't do that sort of thing.

But 200,000 people clogging streets in Montreal? Get real. If you want to do something, volunteer at a hospital or a soup kitchen or something as your form of protest. Do something good during a time when you think bad things are happening. Don't make them worse, and shut down streets and stores and anything else...

Shell
03-21-2003, 01:55 PM
People are people and people are dumb everywhere. I was just as appalled to hear the Canadian anthem booed in the playoffs in NY last summer. That is horrid. As far as protesters, San Fran had 300 protestors show up for a "vomit in" and they all threw up to prove that war made them sick yesterday. You can't judge a nation by some of it's people. I can guarantee you that if anyone boos the Canadian anthem near us that there will be problems. Have Respect!!

and yes, I say this even though I am disappointed in what I have been reading in the Globe and Mail regarding the war.

Shell
03-21-2003, 01:55 PM
People are people and people are dumb everywhere. I was just as appalled to hear the Canadian anthem booed in the playoffs in NY last summer. That is horrid. As far as protesters, San Fran had 300 protestors show up for a "vomit in" and they all threw up to prove that war made them sick yesterday. You can't judge a nation by some of it's people. I can guarantee you that if anyone boos the Canadian anthem near us that there will be problems. Have Respect!!

and yes, I say this even though I am disappointed in what I have been reading in the Globe and Mail regarding the war.

Shell
03-21-2003, 01:55 PM
People are people and people are dumb everywhere. I was just as appalled to hear the Canadian anthem booed in the playoffs in NY last summer. That is horrid. As far as protesters, San Fran had 300 protestors show up for a "vomit in" and they all threw up to prove that war made them sick yesterday. You can't judge a nation by some of it's people. I can guarantee you that if anyone boos the Canadian anthem near us that there will be problems. Have Respect!!

and yes, I say this even though I am disappointed in what I have been reading in the Globe and Mail regarding the war.

Shell
03-21-2003, 01:58 PM
But 200,000 people clogging streets in Montreal? Get real.

Anti-War Demonstrations Cause Mayhem

Friday March 21, 2003 6:10 PM


SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Anti-war activists rolled out another wave of demonstrations Friday in their campaign against the war on Iraq that includes sit-ins in the streets and at federal buildings, mass rallies and quiet vigils. Hundreds have been arrested.

Vowing to shut down the city for the second day in a row, anti-war protesters descended upon the streets of San Francisco's financial district Friday morning. Some 80 to 100 protesters were arrested. In East Lansing, Mich., about 100 protesters, including some who were chained together, blocked a main road near Michigan State University. Police arrested 14.

About 70 protesters dropped to the ground Friday outside a federal courthouse in Baltimore; 30 were arrested. One protester held a sign saying ``This is what war looks like.'' Three hundred people rallied, and 15 were arrested, in Chicago's Federal Plaza. In Minneapolis, 200 people, some carrying a giant coffin, staged a ``die-in'' at the federal courthouse.

The war has stirred one of the broadest rounds of anti-government protesting in years, with demonstrations and civil disobedience in dozens of cities coast to coast. However, the outbreak of fighting has also given rise to cross-country counterdemonstrations and rallies to support American soldiers.

On Thursday, San Francisco police wearing helmets and carrying nightsticks arrested about 1,400 people Thursday as a shifting mass of thousands of anti-war protesters commandeered the streets and paralyzed the evening commute.

Traffic was snarled Thursday in cities from Los Angeles to Washington, D.C., as anti-war protesters blocked off major intersections, some chaining themselves together. Scores of high school and college students walked out of class. In all, more than 1,800 people were arrested.

``The United States is acting in a completely aggressive way,'' said Howard Lisnoff, who donned a rubber President Bush mask at a protest in Providence, R.I., and held a sign reading ``War Criminal.''

Thousands of counterdemonstrators included some 2,000 who gathered outside the state Capitol in Mississippi.

Marlena Puckett, who is engaged to a Marine in the war zone, fought back tears as she watched people waving American flags and carrying handmade signs with slogans like ``God bless our troops'' and ``Let's roll.''

Sheila Murphy attended a rally in Lincoln, Neb., where more than 200 people sang, cheered and prayed. ``This is a time they need to know that everyone is behind the troops and supporting the troops,'' she said.

Though most of the anti-war rallies were peaceful, pockets of protesters in San Francisco scuffled with police, broke windows and heaved newspaper racks and debris into streets. Some protesters hurled rocks at trains, briefly halting service at a station in nearby Oakland.

``We went from what I would call legal protests to absolute anarchy,'' Assistant Police Chief Alex Fagan Sr. said.

One protester died after tumbling from the Golden Gate Bridge. Authorities were investigating the death as a possible suicide.

In Portland, Ore., protesters smashed in three windows at a McDonald's restaurant, set a flag on fire and sprayed graffiti on a sign at a Shell gas station. More than 100 people were arrested.

``I like the idea of shutting down commerce and the city to counteract Bush's economic motives for this war,'' said Eric Anholt, 19, of Portland.

About 1,000 anti-war protesters demonstrated outside the West Los Angeles Federal Building, briefly clashing with police and forcing the closure of one of the city's busiest intersections at rush hour. At least 14 were arrested, and 50 were arrested in Santa Rosa for blocking traffic.

Several thousand marchers snarled afternoon rush-hour traffic along Chicago's main arteries, repeatedly breaking through lines of police on horseback or in riot gear.

In Washington, D.C., dozens of activists temporarily shut down inbound lanes of a Potomac River crossing, holding up the morning commute. Outside the White House, about 50 shouted, ``No blood for oil!'' Anti-war activists in Philadelphia blocked entrances to the downtown federal building, forcing police to detour motorists away from the area. More than 200 people were arrested in protests across Pennsylvania.

In New York, protesters snarled traffic in Times Square; crowd estimates varied from several hundred to several thousand. Police arrested 36 people.

Counterdemonstrators gathered alongside anti-war protesters in many places, shouting patriotic slogans and encouraging support of the president.

``The debate is over, we've had the debate,'' Robert Strickland, an Army veteran, said as he waved an American flag in Louisville, Ky. ``It's time to rally around our troops and rally around our leaders.''

Dennise Linville, 33, stood at the edge of a rally in Cleveland, with a placard declaring President Bush a hero.

``I have children and if this (Iraq) is not taken care of now, in five or 10 years they're going to be the ones who will have to go in the military and take care of it,'' Linville said.

Some anti-war demonstrators took pains to express their support for U.S. troops as they denounced the policy that sent them into Iraq.

``We support them so much that we don't want one to die in an unjust war,'' said Mike Slaton, who demonstrated in Louisville, Ky.

Students walked out of class at some high schools, while protests were held at several colleges.

At the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, in Cambridge, about 600 students converged on the student center, some chanting and wearing mock biochemical protective suits. A protest and sit-in at the University of California at Berkeley, led to 110 arrests.

In Texas, several hundred University of Texas at Austin students linked arms and sat down in a busy street. Several hundred people blocked traffic in Asheville, N.C., and about 20 were arrested.

In St. Louis, as many as 1,000 anti-war protesters linked arms to form a human chain around the federal courthouse. Peaceful marches of about 2,000 people were held in Seattle and Madison, Wis.

Other demonstrations were solemn, with the reciting of Christian, Jewish and Muslim prayers through a bullhorn at a federal building in Pittsburgh.

Shell
03-21-2003, 01:58 PM
But 200,000 people clogging streets in Montreal? Get real.

Anti-War Demonstrations Cause Mayhem

Friday March 21, 2003 6:10 PM


SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Anti-war activists rolled out another wave of demonstrations Friday in their campaign against the war on Iraq that includes sit-ins in the streets and at federal buildings, mass rallies and quiet vigils. Hundreds have been arrested.

Vowing to shut down the city for the second day in a row, anti-war protesters descended upon the streets of San Francisco's financial district Friday morning. Some 80 to 100 protesters were arrested. In East Lansing, Mich., about 100 protesters, including some who were chained together, blocked a main road near Michigan State University. Police arrested 14.

About 70 protesters dropped to the ground Friday outside a federal courthouse in Baltimore; 30 were arrested. One protester held a sign saying ``This is what war looks like.'' Three hundred people rallied, and 15 were arrested, in Chicago's Federal Plaza. In Minneapolis, 200 people, some carrying a giant coffin, staged a ``die-in'' at the federal courthouse.

The war has stirred one of the broadest rounds of anti-government protesting in years, with demonstrations and civil disobedience in dozens of cities coast to coast. However, the outbreak of fighting has also given rise to cross-country counterdemonstrations and rallies to support American soldiers.

On Thursday, San Francisco police wearing helmets and carrying nightsticks arrested about 1,400 people Thursday as a shifting mass of thousands of anti-war protesters commandeered the streets and paralyzed the evening commute.

Traffic was snarled Thursday in cities from Los Angeles to Washington, D.C., as anti-war protesters blocked off major intersections, some chaining themselves together. Scores of high school and college students walked out of class. In all, more than 1,800 people were arrested.

``The United States is acting in a completely aggressive way,'' said Howard Lisnoff, who donned a rubber President Bush mask at a protest in Providence, R.I., and held a sign reading ``War Criminal.''

Thousands of counterdemonstrators included some 2,000 who gathered outside the state Capitol in Mississippi.

Marlena Puckett, who is engaged to a Marine in the war zone, fought back tears as she watched people waving American flags and carrying handmade signs with slogans like ``God bless our troops'' and ``Let's roll.''

Sheila Murphy attended a rally in Lincoln, Neb., where more than 200 people sang, cheered and prayed. ``This is a time they need to know that everyone is behind the troops and supporting the troops,'' she said.

Though most of the anti-war rallies were peaceful, pockets of protesters in San Francisco scuffled with police, broke windows and heaved newspaper racks and debris into streets. Some protesters hurled rocks at trains, briefly halting service at a station in nearby Oakland.

``We went from what I would call legal protests to absolute anarchy,'' Assistant Police Chief Alex Fagan Sr. said.

One protester died after tumbling from the Golden Gate Bridge. Authorities were investigating the death as a possible suicide.

In Portland, Ore., protesters smashed in three windows at a McDonald's restaurant, set a flag on fire and sprayed graffiti on a sign at a Shell gas station. More than 100 people were arrested.

``I like the idea of shutting down commerce and the city to counteract Bush's economic motives for this war,'' said Eric Anholt, 19, of Portland.

About 1,000 anti-war protesters demonstrated outside the West Los Angeles Federal Building, briefly clashing with police and forcing the closure of one of the city's busiest intersections at rush hour. At least 14 were arrested, and 50 were arrested in Santa Rosa for blocking traffic.

Several thousand marchers snarled afternoon rush-hour traffic along Chicago's main arteries, repeatedly breaking through lines of police on horseback or in riot gear.

In Washington, D.C., dozens of activists temporarily shut down inbound lanes of a Potomac River crossing, holding up the morning commute. Outside the White House, about 50 shouted, ``No blood for oil!'' Anti-war activists in Philadelphia blocked entrances to the downtown federal building, forcing police to detour motorists away from the area. More than 200 people were arrested in protests across Pennsylvania.

In New York, protesters snarled traffic in Times Square; crowd estimates varied from several hundred to several thousand. Police arrested 36 people.

Counterdemonstrators gathered alongside anti-war protesters in many places, shouting patriotic slogans and encouraging support of the president.

``The debate is over, we've had the debate,'' Robert Strickland, an Army veteran, said as he waved an American flag in Louisville, Ky. ``It's time to rally around our troops and rally around our leaders.''

Dennise Linville, 33, stood at the edge of a rally in Cleveland, with a placard declaring President Bush a hero.

``I have children and if this (Iraq) is not taken care of now, in five or 10 years they're going to be the ones who will have to go in the military and take care of it,'' Linville said.

Some anti-war demonstrators took pains to express their support for U.S. troops as they denounced the policy that sent them into Iraq.

``We support them so much that we don't want one to die in an unjust war,'' said Mike Slaton, who demonstrated in Louisville, Ky.

Students walked out of class at some high schools, while protests were held at several colleges.

At the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, in Cambridge, about 600 students converged on the student center, some chanting and wearing mock biochemical protective suits. A protest and sit-in at the University of California at Berkeley, led to 110 arrests.

In Texas, several hundred University of Texas at Austin students linked arms and sat down in a busy street. Several hundred people blocked traffic in Asheville, N.C., and about 20 were arrested.

In St. Louis, as many as 1,000 anti-war protesters linked arms to form a human chain around the federal courthouse. Peaceful marches of about 2,000 people were held in Seattle and Madison, Wis.

Other demonstrations were solemn, with the reciting of Christian, Jewish and Muslim prayers through a bullhorn at a federal building in Pittsburgh.

Shell
03-21-2003, 01:58 PM
But 200,000 people clogging streets in Montreal? Get real.

Anti-War Demonstrations Cause Mayhem

Friday March 21, 2003 6:10 PM


SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Anti-war activists rolled out another wave of demonstrations Friday in their campaign against the war on Iraq that includes sit-ins in the streets and at federal buildings, mass rallies and quiet vigils. Hundreds have been arrested.

Vowing to shut down the city for the second day in a row, anti-war protesters descended upon the streets of San Francisco's financial district Friday morning. Some 80 to 100 protesters were arrested. In East Lansing, Mich., about 100 protesters, including some who were chained together, blocked a main road near Michigan State University. Police arrested 14.

About 70 protesters dropped to the ground Friday outside a federal courthouse in Baltimore; 30 were arrested. One protester held a sign saying ``This is what war looks like.'' Three hundred people rallied, and 15 were arrested, in Chicago's Federal Plaza. In Minneapolis, 200 people, some carrying a giant coffin, staged a ``die-in'' at the federal courthouse.

The war has stirred one of the broadest rounds of anti-government protesting in years, with demonstrations and civil disobedience in dozens of cities coast to coast. However, the outbreak of fighting has also given rise to cross-country counterdemonstrations and rallies to support American soldiers.

On Thursday, San Francisco police wearing helmets and carrying nightsticks arrested about 1,400 people Thursday as a shifting mass of thousands of anti-war protesters commandeered the streets and paralyzed the evening commute.

Traffic was snarled Thursday in cities from Los Angeles to Washington, D.C., as anti-war protesters blocked off major intersections, some chaining themselves together. Scores of high school and college students walked out of class. In all, more than 1,800 people were arrested.

``The United States is acting in a completely aggressive way,'' said Howard Lisnoff, who donned a rubber President Bush mask at a protest in Providence, R.I., and held a sign reading ``War Criminal.''

Thousands of counterdemonstrators included some 2,000 who gathered outside the state Capitol in Mississippi.

Marlena Puckett, who is engaged to a Marine in the war zone, fought back tears as she watched people waving American flags and carrying handmade signs with slogans like ``God bless our troops'' and ``Let's roll.''

Sheila Murphy attended a rally in Lincoln, Neb., where more than 200 people sang, cheered and prayed. ``This is a time they need to know that everyone is behind the troops and supporting the troops,'' she said.

Though most of the anti-war rallies were peaceful, pockets of protesters in San Francisco scuffled with police, broke windows and heaved newspaper racks and debris into streets. Some protesters hurled rocks at trains, briefly halting service at a station in nearby Oakland.

``We went from what I would call legal protests to absolute anarchy,'' Assistant Police Chief Alex Fagan Sr. said.

One protester died after tumbling from the Golden Gate Bridge. Authorities were investigating the death as a possible suicide.

In Portland, Ore., protesters smashed in three windows at a McDonald's restaurant, set a flag on fire and sprayed graffiti on a sign at a Shell gas station. More than 100 people were arrested.

``I like the idea of shutting down commerce and the city to counteract Bush's economic motives for this war,'' said Eric Anholt, 19, of Portland.

About 1,000 anti-war protesters demonstrated outside the West Los Angeles Federal Building, briefly clashing with police and forcing the closure of one of the city's busiest intersections at rush hour. At least 14 were arrested, and 50 were arrested in Santa Rosa for blocking traffic.

Several thousand marchers snarled afternoon rush-hour traffic along Chicago's main arteries, repeatedly breaking through lines of police on horseback or in riot gear.

In Washington, D.C., dozens of activists temporarily shut down inbound lanes of a Potomac River crossing, holding up the morning commute. Outside the White House, about 50 shouted, ``No blood for oil!'' Anti-war activists in Philadelphia blocked entrances to the downtown federal building, forcing police to detour motorists away from the area. More than 200 people were arrested in protests across Pennsylvania.

In New York, protesters snarled traffic in Times Square; crowd estimates varied from several hundred to several thousand. Police arrested 36 people.

Counterdemonstrators gathered alongside anti-war protesters in many places, shouting patriotic slogans and encouraging support of the president.

``The debate is over, we've had the debate,'' Robert Strickland, an Army veteran, said as he waved an American flag in Louisville, Ky. ``It's time to rally around our troops and rally around our leaders.''

Dennise Linville, 33, stood at the edge of a rally in Cleveland, with a placard declaring President Bush a hero.

``I have children and if this (Iraq) is not taken care of now, in five or 10 years they're going to be the ones who will have to go in the military and take care of it,'' Linville said.

Some anti-war demonstrators took pains to express their support for U.S. troops as they denounced the policy that sent them into Iraq.

``We support them so much that we don't want one to die in an unjust war,'' said Mike Slaton, who demonstrated in Louisville, Ky.

Students walked out of class at some high schools, while protests were held at several colleges.

At the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, in Cambridge, about 600 students converged on the student center, some chanting and wearing mock biochemical protective suits. A protest and sit-in at the University of California at Berkeley, led to 110 arrests.

In Texas, several hundred University of Texas at Austin students linked arms and sat down in a busy street. Several hundred people blocked traffic in Asheville, N.C., and about 20 were arrested.

In St. Louis, as many as 1,000 anti-war protesters linked arms to form a human chain around the federal courthouse. Peaceful marches of about 2,000 people were held in Seattle and Madison, Wis.

Other demonstrations were solemn, with the reciting of Christian, Jewish and Muslim prayers through a bullhorn at a federal building in Pittsburgh.

JaroFan
03-21-2003, 02:02 PM
Abnormal, meant no disrespect to the Canadian people in general, just the few (and wasn't it only a handful at the Habs game) that felt the urge to boo. 90% are still on my good side!

JaroFan
03-21-2003, 02:02 PM
Abnormal, meant no disrespect to the Canadian people in general, just the few (and wasn't it only a handful at the Habs game) that felt the urge to boo. 90% are still on my good side!

JaroFan
03-21-2003, 02:02 PM
Abnormal, meant no disrespect to the Canadian people in general, just the few (and wasn't it only a handful at the Habs game) that felt the urge to boo. 90% are still on my good side!

JaroFan
03-21-2003, 02:07 PM
Just wanted to comment on that article you posted, and this should probably go somewhere else but you can take it off if you'd like. That idiotic comment about "war for oil". The US doesn't get our oil from Iraq, nor have we ever tried to take their oil fields. Some people will say anything without thinking first.

JaroFan
03-21-2003, 02:07 PM
Just wanted to comment on that article you posted, and this should probably go somewhere else but you can take it off if you'd like. That idiotic comment about "war for oil". The US doesn't get our oil from Iraq, nor have we ever tried to take their oil fields. Some people will say anything without thinking first.

JaroFan
03-21-2003, 02:07 PM
Just wanted to comment on that article you posted, and this should probably go somewhere else but you can take it off if you'd like. That idiotic comment about "war for oil". The US doesn't get our oil from Iraq, nor have we ever tried to take their oil fields. Some people will say anything without thinking first.

MoBigRed
03-21-2003, 02:37 PM
Folks, this is starting to get personal. Let's just get a little perspective before someone says something. This was an incident that I am not justifying. This was an ignorant statement by some people who were voicing an opinion at a time where respect should be paid. Let's not go bashing my fellow Canadians and I because of some dumbass Montreal Canadians fans. There is no reason for us to make this a Canada vs USA issue. The war is over in Iraq and I would hope we can leave it there and not bring it into lgc.com. Thanks.

Aaryn


What he said. The fact there are some classless fans in Montreal and on Long Island shouldn't cause animosity here.

MoBigRed
03-21-2003, 02:37 PM
Folks, this is starting to get personal. Let's just get a little perspective before someone says something. This was an incident that I am not justifying. This was an ignorant statement by some people who were voicing an opinion at a time where respect should be paid. Let's not go bashing my fellow Canadians and I because of some dumbass Montreal Canadians fans. There is no reason for us to make this a Canada vs USA issue. The war is over in Iraq and I would hope we can leave it there and not bring it into lgc.com. Thanks.

Aaryn


What he said. The fact there are some classless fans in Montreal and on Long Island shouldn't cause animosity here.

MoBigRed
03-21-2003, 02:37 PM
Folks, this is starting to get personal. Let's just get a little perspective before someone says something. This was an incident that I am not justifying. This was an ignorant statement by some people who were voicing an opinion at a time where respect should be paid. Let's not go bashing my fellow Canadians and I because of some dumbass Montreal Canadians fans. There is no reason for us to make this a Canada vs USA issue. The war is over in Iraq and I would hope we can leave it there and not bring it into lgc.com. Thanks.

Aaryn


What he said. The fact there are some classless fans in Montreal and on Long Island shouldn't cause animosity here.

nccanes
03-21-2003, 03:30 PM
I didn't really listen at length, but I was in and out of the car during Jim Rome's show today and it appeared that most of the discussion and callers were discussing this very issue.

I presume the Canes fans will be bright enough on Tuesday to realize that a) we will be playing the Leafs, not the Habs and b) reacting in any manner other than silence or singing O Canada would be behaving in the same manner that insulted us in the first place.

I hope everyone at the RBC realizes that disrespect to an anthem is disrespect. You don't get a free pass because they did it first or you think you have a better reason to boo or laugh. It's either your principle or it's not.

Just my 2 cents.

nccanes
03-21-2003, 03:30 PM
I didn't really listen at length, but I was in and out of the car during Jim Rome's show today and it appeared that most of the discussion and callers were discussing this very issue.

I presume the Canes fans will be bright enough on Tuesday to realize that a) we will be playing the Leafs, not the Habs and b) reacting in any manner other than silence or singing O Canada would be behaving in the same manner that insulted us in the first place.

I hope everyone at the RBC realizes that disrespect to an anthem is disrespect. You don't get a free pass because they did it first or you think you have a better reason to boo or laugh. It's either your principle or it's not.

Just my 2 cents.

nccanes
03-21-2003, 03:30 PM
I didn't really listen at length, but I was in and out of the car during Jim Rome's show today and it appeared that most of the discussion and callers were discussing this very issue.

I presume the Canes fans will be bright enough on Tuesday to realize that a) we will be playing the Leafs, not the Habs and b) reacting in any manner other than silence or singing O Canada would be behaving in the same manner that insulted us in the first place.

I hope everyone at the RBC realizes that disrespect to an anthem is disrespect. You don't get a free pass because they did it first or you think you have a better reason to boo or laugh. It's either your principle or it's not.

Just my 2 cents.

opuntia
03-21-2003, 04:07 PM
Just wanted to comment on that article you posted, and this should probably go somewhere else but you can take it off if you'd like. That idiotic comment about "war for oil". The US doesn't get our oil from Iraq, nor have we ever tried to take their oil fields. Some people will say anything without thinking first.

Actually, one of the reasons France is against the war in Iraq is because they had a sweet oil deal with Saddam that will not be honored if he is deposed. So much for the great humanitarian reasons for their government's protesting the war.

Sorry to get so far off topic. Anyone who boos another country's national anthem for any reason is ignorant, disrespectful and foolish.

opuntia
03-21-2003, 04:07 PM
Just wanted to comment on that article you posted, and this should probably go somewhere else but you can take it off if you'd like. That idiotic comment about "war for oil". The US doesn't get our oil from Iraq, nor have we ever tried to take their oil fields. Some people will say anything without thinking first.

Actually, one of the reasons France is against the war in Iraq is because they had a sweet oil deal with Saddam that will not be honored if he is deposed. So much for the great humanitarian reasons for their government's protesting the war.

Sorry to get so far off topic. Anyone who boos another country's national anthem for any reason is ignorant, disrespectful and foolish.

opuntia
03-21-2003, 04:07 PM
Just wanted to comment on that article you posted, and this should probably go somewhere else but you can take it off if you'd like. That idiotic comment about "war for oil". The US doesn't get our oil from Iraq, nor have we ever tried to take their oil fields. Some people will say anything without thinking first.

Actually, one of the reasons France is against the war in Iraq is because they had a sweet oil deal with Saddam that will not be honored if he is deposed. So much for the great humanitarian reasons for their government's protesting the war.

Sorry to get so far off topic. Anyone who boos another country's national anthem for any reason is ignorant, disrespectful and foolish.

opuntia
03-21-2003, 04:51 PM
Further proof that people on ch.com are, well, let's say not up to lgc standards. There is actually a thread urging people to boo the Canadian national anthem at the games. I posted a competing thread telling people to not be idiots and if they feel the need to let off steam, why not chant USA (after the anthems, not during, of course).

And may I say hooray for the moderators on lgc - the guy on ch comes across as huffy at least, a jerk at most. Maybe he should hire some help...

opuntia
03-21-2003, 04:51 PM
Further proof that people on ch.com are, well, let's say not up to lgc standards. There is actually a thread urging people to boo the Canadian national anthem at the games. I posted a competing thread telling people to not be idiots and if they feel the need to let off steam, why not chant USA (after the anthems, not during, of course).

And may I say hooray for the moderators on lgc - the guy on ch comes across as huffy at least, a jerk at most. Maybe he should hire some help...

opuntia
03-21-2003, 04:51 PM
Further proof that people on ch.com are, well, let's say not up to lgc standards. There is actually a thread urging people to boo the Canadian national anthem at the games. I posted a competing thread telling people to not be idiots and if they feel the need to let off steam, why not chant USA (after the anthems, not during, of course).

And may I say hooray for the moderators on lgc - the guy on ch comes across as huffy at least, a jerk at most. Maybe he should hire some help...

nccanes
03-21-2003, 05:12 PM
Further proof that people on ch.com are, well, let's say not up to lgc standards. There is actually a thread urging people to boo the Canadian national anthem at the games. I posted a competing thread telling people to not be idiots and if they feel the need to let off steam, why not chant USA (after the anthems, not during, of course).

And may I say hooray for the moderators on lgc - the guy on ch comes across as huffy at least, a jerk at most. Maybe he should hire some help...

Just to clarify. One person, who was obviously a youngster, suggested it. They began the thread and I think every post rebuffed the suggestion.

As far as the mod? I'm sure if he was able to hire help he would. You cannot expect the person who is responsible for content (like Watt's bio) to be able to police the message boards. And really, he's had much more patience with the Leaf dude than any of the message board posters have. He's treated that little twit with respect, imo.

nccanes
03-21-2003, 05:12 PM
Further proof that people on ch.com are, well, let's say not up to lgc standards. There is actually a thread urging people to boo the Canadian national anthem at the games. I posted a competing thread telling people to not be idiots and if they feel the need to let off steam, why not chant USA (after the anthems, not during, of course).

And may I say hooray for the moderators on lgc - the guy on ch comes across as huffy at least, a jerk at most. Maybe he should hire some help...

Just to clarify. One person, who was obviously a youngster, suggested it. They began the thread and I think every post rebuffed the suggestion.

As far as the mod? I'm sure if he was able to hire help he would. You cannot expect the person who is responsible for content (like Watt's bio) to be able to police the message boards. And really, he's had much more patience with the Leaf dude than any of the message board posters have. He's treated that little twit with respect, imo.

nccanes
03-21-2003, 05:12 PM
Further proof that people on ch.com are, well, let's say not up to lgc standards. There is actually a thread urging people to boo the Canadian national anthem at the games. I posted a competing thread telling people to not be idiots and if they feel the need to let off steam, why not chant USA (after the anthems, not during, of course).

And may I say hooray for the moderators on lgc - the guy on ch comes across as huffy at least, a jerk at most. Maybe he should hire some help...

Just to clarify. One person, who was obviously a youngster, suggested it. They began the thread and I think every post rebuffed the suggestion.

As far as the mod? I'm sure if he was able to hire help he would. You cannot expect the person who is responsible for content (like Watt's bio) to be able to police the message boards. And really, he's had much more patience with the Leaf dude than any of the message board posters have. He's treated that little twit with respect, imo.

opuntia
03-21-2003, 05:16 PM
As I posted elsewhere, I take back about the mod. I feel really bad for him. I hope he gets paid to put up with all that (and if I were him, I would probably quit no matter what they paid!).

opuntia
03-21-2003, 05:16 PM
As I posted elsewhere, I take back about the mod. I feel really bad for him. I hope he gets paid to put up with all that (and if I were him, I would probably quit no matter what they paid!).

opuntia
03-21-2003, 05:16 PM
As I posted elsewhere, I take back about the mod. I feel really bad for him. I hope he gets paid to put up with all that (and if I were him, I would probably quit no matter what they paid!).

raleighcanesfan
03-21-2003, 05:18 PM
You better watch out optunia...crazy leaf guy just made a comment about you using the word "idiot" in your post...

I would leave that whole situation alone...

raleighcanesfan
03-21-2003, 05:18 PM
You better watch out optunia...crazy leaf guy just made a comment about you using the word "idiot" in your post...

I would leave that whole situation alone...

raleighcanesfan
03-21-2003, 05:18 PM
You better watch out optunia...crazy leaf guy just made a comment about you using the word "idiot" in your post...

I would leave that whole situation alone...

JaroFan
03-21-2003, 05:19 PM
I was wondering what curse word he was referring to. That moderator is giving him so much more time than I ever would.

JaroFan
03-21-2003, 05:19 PM
I was wondering what curse word he was referring to. That moderator is giving him so much more time than I ever would.

JaroFan
03-21-2003, 05:19 PM
I was wondering what curse word he was referring to. That moderator is giving him so much more time than I ever would.

opuntia
03-21-2003, 05:24 PM
Haven't touched it RCF (although I found it funny that he picked on the second use of the word and not the first).

I will not encourage the troll or acknowledge his existence in any way, no matter what the provocation. (I repeat this to myself.)

opuntia
03-21-2003, 05:24 PM
Haven't touched it RCF (although I found it funny that he picked on the second use of the word and not the first).

I will not encourage the troll or acknowledge his existence in any way, no matter what the provocation. (I repeat this to myself.)

opuntia
03-21-2003, 05:24 PM
Haven't touched it RCF (although I found it funny that he picked on the second use of the word and not the first).

I will not encourage the troll or acknowledge his existence in any way, no matter what the provocation. (I repeat this to myself.)

raleighcanesfan
03-21-2003, 05:27 PM
It's tough! Be strong! LOL!! I'll be your support network...I need help too!

*I am surprised our great mods left this go on here for this long. I am making a citizen's arrest of my own post...Smells like spam.

raleighcanesfan
03-21-2003, 05:27 PM
It's tough! Be strong! LOL!! I'll be your support network...I need help too!

*I am surprised our great mods left this go on here for this long. I am making a citizen's arrest of my own post...Smells like spam.

raleighcanesfan
03-21-2003, 05:27 PM
It's tough! Be strong! LOL!! I'll be your support network...I need help too!

*I am surprised our great mods left this go on here for this long. I am making a citizen's arrest of my own post...Smells like spam.

nccanes
03-21-2003, 05:30 PM
Okay, I'll get us back on track.

Since we're all respectful Canes fans. We will:

a) sing the US Nat'l Anthem
b) sing the Canadian Nat'l Anthem
and possibly (by Opuntia's suggestion)
c) chant USA, USA, USA after completion of O, Canada!

(oh, and d) yell "DIIIIIVER, DIIIIIVER, DIIIIIVER" everytime McCabe touches the puck!) :D

nccanes
03-21-2003, 05:30 PM
Okay, I'll get us back on track.

Since we're all respectful Canes fans. We will:

a) sing the US Nat'l Anthem
b) sing the Canadian Nat'l Anthem
and possibly (by Opuntia's suggestion)
c) chant USA, USA, USA after completion of O, Canada!

(oh, and d) yell "DIIIIIVER, DIIIIIVER, DIIIIIVER" everytime McCabe touches the puck!) :D

nccanes
03-21-2003, 05:30 PM
Okay, I'll get us back on track.

Since we're all respectful Canes fans. We will:

a) sing the US Nat'l Anthem
b) sing the Canadian Nat'l Anthem
and possibly (by Opuntia's suggestion)
c) chant USA, USA, USA after completion of O, Canada!

(oh, and d) yell "DIIIIIVER, DIIIIIVER, DIIIIIVER" everytime McCabe touches the puck!) :D

raleighcanesfan
03-21-2003, 05:32 PM
Well..for my set of pipes, I think the respectful thing for me to do is just stand quietly while others sing it.

I'm really excited to hear what people do for McCabe. I have some great hecklers (very loud and booming according to Folgers) who also give the players/refs a hard time. Will be fun!

raleighcanesfan
03-21-2003, 05:32 PM
Well..for my set of pipes, I think the respectful thing for me to do is just stand quietly while others sing it.

I'm really excited to hear what people do for McCabe. I have some great hecklers (very loud and booming according to Folgers) who also give the players/refs a hard time. Will be fun!

raleighcanesfan
03-21-2003, 05:32 PM
Well..for my set of pipes, I think the respectful thing for me to do is just stand quietly while others sing it.

I'm really excited to hear what people do for McCabe. I have some great hecklers (very loud and booming according to Folgers) who also give the players/refs a hard time. Will be fun!

nccanes
03-21-2003, 11:23 PM
Canadiens president apologizes for fans who booed U.S. anthem


March 21, 2003
MONTREAL (AP) -- The president of the Montreal Canadiens apologized Friday for fans who booed the U.S. national anthem before Thursday night's game against the New York Islanders.

``The Montreal Canadiens organization has always held a high respect for its neighbors and friends in the United States, and we look forward to maintaining this strong and positive relationship,'' Pierre Boivin said in a statement.

``We apologize to anyone who may have been offended by this incident, and would encourage all fans at the Bell Centre to conduct themselves in a manner worthy of our game and our two great nations.''


Despite the apology, there was a small amount of retribution on the U.S. side Friday night. About 20 people at the Ottawa Senators-Atlanta Thrashers game booed during the opening lines of ``O Canada.'' But the boos died down, and there was applause at the end.
There was no such reaction when the Canadian anthem was before the Toronto Raptors-Miami Heat NBA game.

Before Thursday night's game in Montreal, the sellout crowd of 21,273 was asked to ``show your support and respect for two great nations'' before the singing of the American and Canadian national anthems. But many fans booed throughout ``The Star-Spangled Banner,'' apparently expressing their displeasure with the U.S.-led war against Iraq.

``It is our firm belief that this kind of behavior has no place in the context of professional sports,'' Boivin said.

The Islanders won the game 6-3, and afterward New York's Mark Parrish -- who's from Minnesota -- expressed disappointment with the booing.

``I came to the game pretty pumped up, but once I heard that, it really got me going,'' he said. ``So I guess I can thank them a little bit for getting me more pumped up.''

Gary Meagher, a league spokesman in Toronto, said the fans' behavior was disappointing but did not reflect widespread resentment.

``We don't expect it's going to turn into a league-wide issue,'' Meagher said. ``We're working with the Canadiens today, working through some things to try and deal with the situation. It certainly is an isolated one at this point.''

Meagher said the national anthem began being played at hockey games in 1946 to show respect for players returning from World War II. At that time, usually only the home anthem was played.

It wasn't until the 1960s that both anthems were played. It was 1987 before the NHL introduced a rule saying both anthems had to be performed before games involving American and Canadian teams.

nccanes
03-21-2003, 11:23 PM
Canadiens president apologizes for fans who booed U.S. anthem


March 21, 2003
MONTREAL (AP) -- The president of the Montreal Canadiens apologized Friday for fans who booed the U.S. national anthem before Thursday night's game against the New York Islanders.

``The Montreal Canadiens organization has always held a high respect for its neighbors and friends in the United States, and we look forward to maintaining this strong and positive relationship,'' Pierre Boivin said in a statement.

``We apologize to anyone who may have been offended by this incident, and would encourage all fans at the Bell Centre to conduct themselves in a manner worthy of our game and our two great nations.''


Despite the apology, there was a small amount of retribution on the U.S. side Friday night. About 20 people at the Ottawa Senators-Atlanta Thrashers game booed during the opening lines of ``O Canada.'' But the boos died down, and there was applause at the end.
There was no such reaction when the Canadian anthem was before the Toronto Raptors-Miami Heat NBA game.

Before Thursday night's game in Montreal, the sellout crowd of 21,273 was asked to ``show your support and respect for two great nations'' before the singing of the American and Canadian national anthems. But many fans booed throughout ``The Star-Spangled Banner,'' apparently expressing their displeasure with the U.S.-led war against Iraq.

``It is our firm belief that this kind of behavior has no place in the context of professional sports,'' Boivin said.

The Islanders won the game 6-3, and afterward New York's Mark Parrish -- who's from Minnesota -- expressed disappointment with the booing.

``I came to the game pretty pumped up, but once I heard that, it really got me going,'' he said. ``So I guess I can thank them a little bit for getting me more pumped up.''

Gary Meagher, a league spokesman in Toronto, said the fans' behavior was disappointing but did not reflect widespread resentment.

``We don't expect it's going to turn into a league-wide issue,'' Meagher said. ``We're working with the Canadiens today, working through some things to try and deal with the situation. It certainly is an isolated one at this point.''

Meagher said the national anthem began being played at hockey games in 1946 to show respect for players returning from World War II. At that time, usually only the home anthem was played.

It wasn't until the 1960s that both anthems were played. It was 1987 before the NHL introduced a rule saying both anthems had to be performed before games involving American and Canadian teams.

nccanes
03-21-2003, 11:23 PM
Canadiens president apologizes for fans who booed U.S. anthem


March 21, 2003
MONTREAL (AP) -- The president of the Montreal Canadiens apologized Friday for fans who booed the U.S. national anthem before Thursday night's game against the New York Islanders.

``The Montreal Canadiens organization has always held a high respect for its neighbors and friends in the United States, and we look forward to maintaining this strong and positive relationship,'' Pierre Boivin said in a statement.

``We apologize to anyone who may have been offended by this incident, and would encourage all fans at the Bell Centre to conduct themselves in a manner worthy of our game and our two great nations.''


Despite the apology, there was a small amount of retribution on the U.S. side Friday night. About 20 people at the Ottawa Senators-Atlanta Thrashers game booed during the opening lines of ``O Canada.'' But the boos died down, and there was applause at the end.
There was no such reaction when the Canadian anthem was before the Toronto Raptors-Miami Heat NBA game.

Before Thursday night's game in Montreal, the sellout crowd of 21,273 was asked to ``show your support and respect for two great nations'' before the singing of the American and Canadian national anthems. But many fans booed throughout ``The Star-Spangled Banner,'' apparently expressing their displeasure with the U.S.-led war against Iraq.

``It is our firm belief that this kind of behavior has no place in the context of professional sports,'' Boivin said.

The Islanders won the game 6-3, and afterward New York's Mark Parrish -- who's from Minnesota -- expressed disappointment with the booing.

``I came to the game pretty pumped up, but once I heard that, it really got me going,'' he said. ``So I guess I can thank them a little bit for getting me more pumped up.''

Gary Meagher, a league spokesman in Toronto, said the fans' behavior was disappointing but did not reflect widespread resentment.

``We don't expect it's going to turn into a league-wide issue,'' Meagher said. ``We're working with the Canadiens today, working through some things to try and deal with the situation. It certainly is an isolated one at this point.''

Meagher said the national anthem began being played at hockey games in 1946 to show respect for players returning from World War II. At that time, usually only the home anthem was played.

It wasn't until the 1960s that both anthems were played. It was 1987 before the NHL introduced a rule saying both anthems had to be performed before games involving American and Canadian teams.

nccanes
03-21-2003, 11:33 PM
I found this on the TSN site. It's a video clip covering this story. Interviews with Islanders and Canadiens players as well as a few from other teams (including Gelinas).

The thing that I gained from it, was that there were people in the stands trying to counter the boos with cheers. Snow acknowledged that and appreciated it. Worth a look:

http://www.tsn.ca/audio_video/main.asp

It's the one entitled Politics Hits the Rinks.

nccanes
03-21-2003, 11:33 PM
I found this on the TSN site. It's a video clip covering this story. Interviews with Islanders and Canadiens players as well as a few from other teams (including Gelinas).

The thing that I gained from it, was that there were people in the stands trying to counter the boos with cheers. Snow acknowledged that and appreciated it. Worth a look:

http://www.tsn.ca/audio_video/main.asp

It's the one entitled Politics Hits the Rinks.

nccanes
03-21-2003, 11:33 PM
I found this on the TSN site. It's a video clip covering this story. Interviews with Islanders and Canadiens players as well as a few from other teams (including Gelinas).

The thing that I gained from it, was that there were people in the stands trying to counter the boos with cheers. Snow acknowledged that and appreciated it. Worth a look:

http://www.tsn.ca/audio_video/main.asp

It's the one entitled Politics Hits the Rinks.

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 11:35 PM
Okay, I'll get us back on track.

Since we're all respectful Canes fans. We will:

a) sing the US Nat'l Anthem
b) sing the Canadian Nat'l Anthem
and possibly (by Opuntia's suggestion)
c) chant USA, USA, USA after completion of O, Canada!

(oh, and d) yell "DIIIIIVER, DIIIIIVER, DIIIIIVER" everytime McCabe touches the puck!) :D

DAMN STRAIGHT! NCCANES, I might not be in front of a TV when the puck drops tomorrow. But, I will be hoping that the Canes fans have more class than the Habs fans. Keep in mind, I wil be amongst many Leafs fans and some Habs fans, as I will be attendance of my cousin's stag and doe. REST ASSURED I will be wearing a Hurricanes jersey as a statement! Anyone who disobeys your "rules" will answer to me. Those of you who have paid attention know, there will be gloves dropped and differences settled rather quickly if it gets that far.

Aaryn

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 11:35 PM
Okay, I'll get us back on track.

Since we're all respectful Canes fans. We will:

a) sing the US Nat'l Anthem
b) sing the Canadian Nat'l Anthem
and possibly (by Opuntia's suggestion)
c) chant USA, USA, USA after completion of O, Canada!

(oh, and d) yell "DIIIIIVER, DIIIIIVER, DIIIIIVER" everytime McCabe touches the puck!) :D

DAMN STRAIGHT! NCCANES, I might not be in front of a TV when the puck drops tomorrow. But, I will be hoping that the Canes fans have more class than the Habs fans. Keep in mind, I wil be amongst many Leafs fans and some Habs fans, as I will be attendance of my cousin's stag and doe. REST ASSURED I will be wearing a Hurricanes jersey as a statement! Anyone who disobeys your "rules" will answer to me. Those of you who have paid attention know, there will be gloves dropped and differences settled rather quickly if it gets that far.

Aaryn

AbNormal27
03-21-2003, 11:35 PM
Okay, I'll get us back on track.

Since we're all respectful Canes fans. We will:

a) sing the US Nat'l Anthem
b) sing the Canadian Nat'l Anthem
and possibly (by Opuntia's suggestion)
c) chant USA, USA, USA after completion of O, Canada!

(oh, and d) yell "DIIIIIVER, DIIIIIVER, DIIIIIVER" everytime McCabe touches the puck!) :D

DAMN STRAIGHT! NCCANES, I might not be in front of a TV when the puck drops tomorrow. But, I will be hoping that the Canes fans have more class than the Habs fans. Keep in mind, I wil be amongst many Leafs fans and some Habs fans, as I will be attendance of my cousin's stag and doe. REST ASSURED I will be wearing a Hurricanes jersey as a statement! Anyone who disobeys your "rules" will answer to me. Those of you who have paid attention know, there will be gloves dropped and differences settled rather quickly if it gets that far.

Aaryn

nccanes
03-21-2003, 11:51 PM
From the reading I've done, I won't be surprised if the Montreal crowd is a little better behaved tomorrow night. Certainly all eyes will be on the game from this perspective.

Here's a few more comments from another article.

When Canadiens fans booed "The Star-Spangled Banner" before Tuesday's game, Devils goaltender Martin Brodeur, a native of Montreal and a player on the Canadian national team that won the gold medal at the 2002 Olympics, said he was shocked.

"I'm very conflicted about what happened," Brodeur said Tuesday. "I'm from Montreal, and I'm proud to be a Canadian, but my children are American, so it puts me in a weird position. I wish it could be kept out of sports."

nccanes
03-21-2003, 11:51 PM
From the reading I've done, I won't be surprised if the Montreal crowd is a little better behaved tomorrow night. Certainly all eyes will be on the game from this perspective.

Here's a few more comments from another article.

When Canadiens fans booed "The Star-Spangled Banner" before Tuesday's game, Devils goaltender Martin Brodeur, a native of Montreal and a player on the Canadian national team that won the gold medal at the 2002 Olympics, said he was shocked.

"I'm very conflicted about what happened," Brodeur said Tuesday. "I'm from Montreal, and I'm proud to be a Canadian, but my children are American, so it puts me in a weird position. I wish it could be kept out of sports."

nccanes
03-21-2003, 11:51 PM
From the reading I've done, I won't be surprised if the Montreal crowd is a little better behaved tomorrow night. Certainly all eyes will be on the game from this perspective.

Here's a few more comments from another article.

When Canadiens fans booed "The Star-Spangled Banner" before Tuesday's game, Devils goaltender Martin Brodeur, a native of Montreal and a player on the Canadian national team that won the gold medal at the 2002 Olympics, said he was shocked.

"I'm very conflicted about what happened," Brodeur said Tuesday. "I'm from Montreal, and I'm proud to be a Canadian, but my children are American, so it puts me in a weird position. I wish it could be kept out of sports."

nccanes
03-22-2003, 12:08 AM
Another take on the Thrashers game.

(I swear I'm not fixated on this, but I'm a little bored tonight and this certainly seem to be the story of the day in the NHL.)

Interesting that there seems to be no such issue with the Raptors/Heat NBA game.

By Jon A. Dolezar, SI.com

ATLANTA -- A handful of fans at Philips Arena jeered O Canada prior to the start of Friday's Senators-Thrashers game.

This was a response to the booing of The Star Spangled Banner at the Bell Centre in Montreal on Thursday by Habs fans who were protesting the United States' lead role in the war on Iraq.

With the arena less than half full at the beginning of the game due to very tight security, only a very small portion of the crowd took part in the vocal protest during the Canadian national anthem. Seemingly embarrassed by the protests of this faction of fans, the remainder of the crowd cheered following the completion of O Canada.

The Star Spangled Banner was then greeted with hearty cheers by the sparse crowd.

"The entire Atlanta Thrashers organization regrets the actions of a small number of fans that behaved disrespectfully during the Canadian Anthem tonight prior to the Thrashers' game against the Ottawa Senators," the Thrashers said in a statement released after the second period.

"The Thrashers' organization firmly believes this type of behavior has no place in professional sports. We hope that this was an isolated incident and apologize to anyone who was offended, including the Canadian-born members of both teams."

Fans attending the Raptors-Heat game in Miami offered no negative reaction to the Canadian anthem.

nccanes
03-22-2003, 12:08 AM
Another take on the Thrashers game.

(I swear I'm not fixated on this, but I'm a little bored tonight and this certainly seem to be the story of the day in the NHL.)

Interesting that there seems to be no such issue with the Raptors/Heat NBA game.

By Jon A. Dolezar, SI.com

ATLANTA -- A handful of fans at Philips Arena jeered O Canada prior to the start of Friday's Senators-Thrashers game.

This was a response to the booing of The Star Spangled Banner at the Bell Centre in Montreal on Thursday by Habs fans who were protesting the United States' lead role in the war on Iraq.

With the arena less than half full at the beginning of the game due to very tight security, only a very small portion of the crowd took part in the vocal protest during the Canadian national anthem. Seemingly embarrassed by the protests of this faction of fans, the remainder of the crowd cheered following the completion of O Canada.

The Star Spangled Banner was then greeted with hearty cheers by the sparse crowd.

"The entire Atlanta Thrashers organization regrets the actions of a small number of fans that behaved disrespectfully during the Canadian Anthem tonight prior to the Thrashers' game against the Ottawa Senators," the Thrashers said in a statement released after the second period.

"The Thrashers' organization firmly believes this type of behavior has no place in professional sports. We hope that this was an isolated incident and apologize to anyone who was offended, including the Canadian-born members of both teams."

Fans attending the Raptors-Heat game in Miami offered no negative reaction to the Canadian anthem.

nccanes
03-22-2003, 12:08 AM
Another take on the Thrashers game.

(I swear I'm not fixated on this, but I'm a little bored tonight and this certainly seem to be the story of the day in the NHL.)

Interesting that there seems to be no such issue with the Raptors/Heat NBA game.

By Jon A. Dolezar, SI.com

ATLANTA -- A handful of fans at Philips Arena jeered O Canada prior to the start of Friday's Senators-Thrashers game.

This was a response to the booing of The Star Spangled Banner at the Bell Centre in Montreal on Thursday by Habs fans who were protesting the United States' lead role in the war on Iraq.

With the arena less than half full at the beginning of the game due to very tight security, only a very small portion of the crowd took part in the vocal protest during the Canadian national anthem. Seemingly embarrassed by the protests of this faction of fans, the remainder of the crowd cheered following the completion of O Canada.

The Star Spangled Banner was then greeted with hearty cheers by the sparse crowd.

"The entire Atlanta Thrashers organization regrets the actions of a small number of fans that behaved disrespectfully during the Canadian Anthem tonight prior to the Thrashers' game against the Ottawa Senators," the Thrashers said in a statement released after the second period.

"The Thrashers' organization firmly believes this type of behavior has no place in professional sports. We hope that this was an isolated incident and apologize to anyone who was offended, including the Canadian-born members of both teams."

Fans attending the Raptors-Heat game in Miami offered no negative reaction to the Canadian anthem.

nccanes
03-22-2003, 09:54 PM
And happily I post the final chapter in this ugly little saga. :)

MONTREAL (AP) -- Montreal Canadiens fans cheered during the final verse of the U.S. national anthem Saturday night following a video address by Hall of Famer Jean Beliveau.

In a recorded statement, Beliveau asked the Bell Centre crowd to respect the playing of both national anthems before the game against Carolina. Only a handful of people booed as Charles Prevost-Linton sang ``The Star-Spangled Banner'' in virtual silence before the crowd applauded during the final verse.

On Thursday night, a large number of Montreal fans, voicing displeasure with the war in Iraq, booed throughout the anthem before a game against the New York Islanders.


Canadiens president Pierre Boivin issued a statement Friday, apologizing on behalf of the organization for the conduct of ``certain fans.''

On Saturday, the team asked Beliveau to record statements in French and English, which were played on the arena's video scoreboard before the singing of both anthems.

``During these difficult times, many have an opinion on world affairs,'' Beliveau said. ``Nevertheless, the Montreal Canadiens have been proud to honor both Canada and the United States prior to games for over 50 years, and they hope to maintain this outstanding display of sportsmanship.

``Please, join us here at the Bell Centre in the singing of both national anthems to celebrate the game of hockey. Thank you, and have a good evening.''

Also Saturday night, fans in Toronto cheered during the anthem before the Maple Leafs played Buffalo.

nccanes
03-22-2003, 09:54 PM
And happily I post the final chapter in this ugly little saga. :)

MONTREAL (AP) -- Montreal Canadiens fans cheered during the final verse of the U.S. national anthem Saturday night following a video address by Hall of Famer Jean Beliveau.

In a recorded statement, Beliveau asked the Bell Centre crowd to respect the playing of both national anthems before the game against Carolina. Only a handful of people booed as Charles Prevost-Linton sang ``The Star-Spangled Banner'' in virtual silence before the crowd applauded during the final verse.

On Thursday night, a large number of Montreal fans, voicing displeasure with the war in Iraq, booed throughout the anthem before a game against the New York Islanders.


Canadiens president Pierre Boivin issued a statement Friday, apologizing on behalf of the organization for the conduct of ``certain fans.''

On Saturday, the team asked Beliveau to record statements in French and English, which were played on the arena's video scoreboard before the singing of both anthems.

``During these difficult times, many have an opinion on world affairs,'' Beliveau said. ``Nevertheless, the Montreal Canadiens have been proud to honor both Canada and the United States prior to games for over 50 years, and they hope to maintain this outstanding display of sportsmanship.

``Please, join us here at the Bell Centre in the singing of both national anthems to celebrate the game of hockey. Thank you, and have a good evening.''

Also Saturday night, fans in Toronto cheered during the anthem before the Maple Leafs played Buffalo.

nccanes
03-22-2003, 09:54 PM
And happily I post the final chapter in this ugly little saga. :)

MONTREAL (AP) -- Montreal Canadiens fans cheered during the final verse of the U.S. national anthem Saturday night following a video address by Hall of Famer Jean Beliveau.

In a recorded statement, Beliveau asked the Bell Centre crowd to respect the playing of both national anthems before the game against Carolina. Only a handful of people booed as Charles Prevost-Linton sang ``The Star-Spangled Banner'' in virtual silence before the crowd applauded during the final verse.

On Thursday night, a large number of Montreal fans, voicing displeasure with the war in Iraq, booed throughout the anthem before a game against the New York Islanders.


Canadiens president Pierre Boivin issued a statement Friday, apologizing on behalf of the organization for the conduct of ``certain fans.''

On Saturday, the team asked Beliveau to record statements in French and English, which were played on the arena's video scoreboard before the singing of both anthems.

``During these difficult times, many have an opinion on world affairs,'' Beliveau said. ``Nevertheless, the Montreal Canadiens have been proud to honor both Canada and the United States prior to games for over 50 years, and they hope to maintain this outstanding display of sportsmanship.

``Please, join us here at the Bell Centre in the singing of both national anthems to celebrate the game of hockey. Thank you, and have a good evening.''

Also Saturday night, fans in Toronto cheered during the anthem before the Maple Leafs played Buffalo.

nccanes
03-23-2003, 09:06 PM
Don Cherry is pissed too:

Cherry mad over booing of American anthem
March 23, 2003
Canadian Press

They cheered the American national anthem in Montreal on Saturday, but Don Cherry was still seething from Canadiens fans booing The Star Spangled Banner two nights earlier.

Cherry, wearing a tie emblazoned with U.S. colors, apologized on behalf of Canadians during Saturday's Coach's Corner on CBC's Hockey Night In Canada, saying that "years of pride went down the drain" with Habs fans' behavior Thursday in Montreal.

Cherry also went at it with co-host Ron MacLean over the war in Iraq, chiding the Canadian government for its "lack of support to our American friends."

"I hate to see them go it alone. We have a country that comes to our rescue, and we're just riding their coat-tails," Cherry said.

MacLean stood firm that it was Canada's right not to go.

"Why attack Iraq if they haven't attacked you?" MacLean said.

While fans at the Bell Centre in Montreal cheered the American anthem before the Canadiens' win over the Carolina Hurricanes on Saturday, O Canada drew steady booing in Sunrise, Fla., before the Ottawa Senators' victory over the Florida Panthers.

The Panthers released a statement in which they expressed "regrets that a number of fans behaved disrespectfully during the playing of the Canadian anthem."

The applause in Montreal was a reversal from the booing that greeted the American anthem before Thursday's game against the New York Islanders. The fans' actions were reported on newscasts across North America with other manifestations of anti-war sentiment around the world.

On Sunday, fans at the Air Canada Centre cheered when both the Canadian and American anthems were performed prior to the Toronto Raptors' home game against the Philadelphia 76ers.

That also was the case the night before when fans attending the Toronto Maple Leafs' 3-2 overtime win over Buffalo at the ACC cheered during the American anthem.

"There was a standing ovation here (Toronto) tonight. I don't think that's going to make CNN," Cherry said.

The Star Spangled Banner also was greeted warmly in Edmonton before the Oilers beat the Washington Capitals, and in Calgary prior to the Flames' draw with the Nashville Predators.

As Charles Prevost-Linton began to sing the U.S. anthem in Montreal, one or two fans who tried to boo were quickly hushed by those around them.

Many fans sang along and there was enthusiastic cheering when Prevost-Linton finished.

A videotaped message from former Habs great Jean Beliveau was played on the scoreboard before the American and Canadian anthems.

The Hall of Fame center and 10-time Stanley Cup winner did not ask fans not to boo. But he invited them to join in singing both the Canadian and U.S. anthems "to celebrate the game of hockey."

"During these difficult times, many have an opinion on world affairs," said Beliveau. "Nevertheless, the Montreal Canadiens have been proud to honor both Canada and the United States prior to games for over 50 years and they hope to maintain this outstanding display of sportsmanship."

After Thursday's game, Canadiens president Pierre Boivin issued a statement expressing "deep regret" for the booing.

nccanes
03-23-2003, 09:06 PM
Don Cherry is pissed too:

Cherry mad over booing of American anthem
March 23, 2003
Canadian Press

They cheered the American national anthem in Montreal on Saturday, but Don Cherry was still seething from Canadiens fans booing The Star Spangled Banner two nights earlier.

Cherry, wearing a tie emblazoned with U.S. colors, apologized on behalf of Canadians during Saturday's Coach's Corner on CBC's Hockey Night In Canada, saying that "years of pride went down the drain" with Habs fans' behavior Thursday in Montreal.

Cherry also went at it with co-host Ron MacLean over the war in Iraq, chiding the Canadian government for its "lack of support to our American friends."

"I hate to see them go it alone. We have a country that comes to our rescue, and we're just riding their coat-tails," Cherry said.

MacLean stood firm that it was Canada's right not to go.

"Why attack Iraq if they haven't attacked you?" MacLean said.

While fans at the Bell Centre in Montreal cheered the American anthem before the Canadiens' win over the Carolina Hurricanes on Saturday, O Canada drew steady booing in Sunrise, Fla., before the Ottawa Senators' victory over the Florida Panthers.

The Panthers released a statement in which they expressed "regrets that a number of fans behaved disrespectfully during the playing of the Canadian anthem."

The applause in Montreal was a reversal from the booing that greeted the American anthem before Thursday's game against the New York Islanders. The fans' actions were reported on newscasts across North America with other manifestations of anti-war sentiment around the world.

On Sunday, fans at the Air Canada Centre cheered when both the Canadian and American anthems were performed prior to the Toronto Raptors' home game against the Philadelphia 76ers.

That also was the case the night before when fans attending the Toronto Maple Leafs' 3-2 overtime win over Buffalo at the ACC cheered during the American anthem.

"There was a standing ovation here (Toronto) tonight. I don't think that's going to make CNN," Cherry said.

The Star Spangled Banner also was greeted warmly in Edmonton before the Oilers beat the Washington Capitals, and in Calgary prior to the Flames' draw with the Nashville Predators.

As Charles Prevost-Linton began to sing the U.S. anthem in Montreal, one or two fans who tried to boo were quickly hushed by those around them.

Many fans sang along and there was enthusiastic cheering when Prevost-Linton finished.

A videotaped message from former Habs great Jean Beliveau was played on the scoreboard before the American and Canadian anthems.

The Hall of Fame center and 10-time Stanley Cup winner did not ask fans not to boo. But he invited them to join in singing both the Canadian and U.S. anthems "to celebrate the game of hockey."

"During these difficult times, many have an opinion on world affairs," said Beliveau. "Nevertheless, the Montreal Canadiens have been proud to honor both Canada and the United States prior to games for over 50 years and they hope to maintain this outstanding display of sportsmanship."

After Thursday's game, Canadiens president Pierre Boivin issued a statement expressing "deep regret" for the booing.

nccanes
03-23-2003, 09:06 PM
Don Cherry is pissed too:

Cherry mad over booing of American anthem
March 23, 2003
Canadian Press

They cheered the American national anthem in Montreal on Saturday, but Don Cherry was still seething from Canadiens fans booing The Star Spangled Banner two nights earlier.

Cherry, wearing a tie emblazoned with U.S. colors, apologized on behalf of Canadians during Saturday's Coach's Corner on CBC's Hockey Night In Canada, saying that "years of pride went down the drain" with Habs fans' behavior Thursday in Montreal.

Cherry also went at it with co-host Ron MacLean over the war in Iraq, chiding the Canadian government for its "lack of support to our American friends."

"I hate to see them go it alone. We have a country that comes to our rescue, and we're just riding their coat-tails," Cherry said.

MacLean stood firm that it was Canada's right not to go.

"Why attack Iraq if they haven't attacked you?" MacLean said.

While fans at the Bell Centre in Montreal cheered the American anthem before the Canadiens' win over the Carolina Hurricanes on Saturday, O Canada drew steady booing in Sunrise, Fla., before the Ottawa Senators' victory over the Florida Panthers.

The Panthers released a statement in which they expressed "regrets that a number of fans behaved disrespectfully during the playing of the Canadian anthem."

The applause in Montreal was a reversal from the booing that greeted the American anthem before Thursday's game against the New York Islanders. The fans' actions were reported on newscasts across North America with other manifestations of anti-war sentiment around the world.

On Sunday, fans at the Air Canada Centre cheered when both the Canadian and American anthems were performed prior to the Toronto Raptors' home game against the Philadelphia 76ers.

That also was the case the night before when fans attending the Toronto Maple Leafs' 3-2 overtime win over Buffalo at the ACC cheered during the American anthem.

"There was a standing ovation here (Toronto) tonight. I don't think that's going to make CNN," Cherry said.

The Star Spangled Banner also was greeted warmly in Edmonton before the Oilers beat the Washington Capitals, and in Calgary prior to the Flames' draw with the Nashville Predators.

As Charles Prevost-Linton began to sing the U.S. anthem in Montreal, one or two fans who tried to boo were quickly hushed by those around them.

Many fans sang along and there was enthusiastic cheering when Prevost-Linton finished.

A videotaped message from former Habs great Jean Beliveau was played on the scoreboard before the American and Canadian anthems.

The Hall of Fame center and 10-time Stanley Cup winner did not ask fans not to boo. But he invited them to join in singing both the Canadian and U.S. anthems "to celebrate the game of hockey."

"During these difficult times, many have an opinion on world affairs," said Beliveau. "Nevertheless, the Montreal Canadiens have been proud to honor both Canada and the United States prior to games for over 50 years and they hope to maintain this outstanding display of sportsmanship."

After Thursday's game, Canadiens president Pierre Boivin issued a statement expressing "deep regret" for the booing.

Jillsdad
03-24-2003, 08:28 AM
Anyone who has NHL Center Ice should watch Coaches Corner on CBC after the first period of whatever game is the early one of the doubleheader. Cherry and McLean are classic together and usually give good insight into the going on in the world of hockey. Saturday night,however, was classic. For the whole 5 to 10 minute segment the two of them went at it over Canada's position on the war and their lack os support for the US. Cherry was adamantly in favor of our position whereas McLean disagreed with the war on the grounds that Iraq had not attacked us. Quite entertaining between the two of them if I must say so with Cherry getting in the last word by asking McLean if Canada was in trouble would the want the US's help? McLean had no answer plus Cherry wouldn't let him answer anyway if you know Cherry at all.

Jillsdad
03-24-2003, 08:28 AM
Anyone who has NHL Center Ice should watch Coaches Corner on CBC after the first period of whatever game is the early one of the doubleheader. Cherry and McLean are classic together and usually give good insight into the going on in the world of hockey. Saturday night,however, was classic. For the whole 5 to 10 minute segment the two of them went at it over Canada's position on the war and their lack os support for the US. Cherry was adamantly in favor of our position whereas McLean disagreed with the war on the grounds that Iraq had not attacked us. Quite entertaining between the two of them if I must say so with Cherry getting in the last word by asking McLean if Canada was in trouble would the want the US's help? McLean had no answer plus Cherry wouldn't let him answer anyway if you know Cherry at all.

Jillsdad
03-24-2003, 08:28 AM
Anyone who has NHL Center Ice should watch Coaches Corner on CBC after the first period of whatever game is the early one of the doubleheader. Cherry and McLean are classic together and usually give good insight into the going on in the world of hockey. Saturday night,however, was classic. For the whole 5 to 10 minute segment the two of them went at it over Canada's position on the war and their lack os support for the US. Cherry was adamantly in favor of our position whereas McLean disagreed with the war on the grounds that Iraq had not attacked us. Quite entertaining between the two of them if I must say so with Cherry getting in the last word by asking McLean if Canada was in trouble would the want the US's help? McLean had no answer plus Cherry wouldn't let him answer anyway if you know Cherry at all.