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drwFischerFan2

03-21-2003, 06:24 PM

Just for the fun of it tell who you think/hope wins the following awards:

Hart - Markus Naslund or Joe Thorton
Selke - Jere Lehtinen
Art Ross - Markus Naslund
Rocket Richard - Markus Naslund
Norris - Nicklas Lidstrom
Calder - Barret Jackman or Henrik Zetterberg
Vezina - Martin Brodeur
Adams - Jacques Lemaire
Presidents - probably the Ottawa Senators, but everything is really close now so who knows.
Masterton- Steve Yzerman

I'm really unsure about who to pick for the Lady Byng, Clancy, Pearson, Jennings.

drwFischerFan2

03-21-2003, 06:24 PM

drwFischerFan2

03-21-2003, 06:24 PM

Grindline25

03-21-2003, 10:24 PM

All I know is this....

Norris: Nicklas Lidstrom all the way! (Nick for Norris!)
Calder: Henrik Zetterberg; he's on fire! Just watch him play!
Vezina: If only they knew of Manny Legace's talent....
Masterton: Steve Yzerman without a doubt.
Presidents: At this second, Ottawa. But it'll change- Detroit.
Adams: Dave Lewis...he'll win the cup during this breakthrough season.

And think, that's my unbiased opinion. :D

Grindline25

03-21-2003, 10:24 PM

Grindline25

03-21-2003, 10:24 PM

Shell

04-30-2003, 03:58 PM

NHL releases award finalists
Canadian Press
4/30/2003

New York (CP) - Markus Naslund of the Vancouver Canucks and Peter Forsberg of the Colorado Avalanche, who grew up playing against each other in Ornskoldsvik, Sweden, were named finalists for the NHL's Hart Trophy on Wednesday.

Naslund and Forsberg, born 10 days apart in July of 1973, will be up against New Jersey Devils goaltender Martin Brodeur for the award, which goes to the player deemed most valuable to his team.

It was the first Hart Trophy nomination for all three players and Forsberg or Naslund could become the first Swede to ever capture the honour.

Nominees were also released for the Norris, Calder, Vezina, Lady Byng, Jack Adams and Selke trophies. Winners are to be announced June 12 at the league's televised awards ceremony in Toronto.

There were few surprises among the nominees, except perhaps the selection of Derian Hatcher of Dallas and the omission of Washington's Sergei Gonchar for the Norris Trophy as top defenceman.

Hatcher was among four players from the Western Conference champion Stars nominated for awards, the most among any team. Others were forwards Mike Modano and Jere Lehtinen and goaltender Marty Turco.

Coach Jacques Martin was the lone member of the first-place Ottawa Senators to be nominated despite stellar seasons from forwards Daniel Alfredsson and Marian Hossa and goaltender Patrick Lalime.

On Monday, Naslund and Forsberg were named finalists for the Pearson Award - a second MVP trophy voted on by their fellow players. But the third candidate for the Pearson was Boston Bruins centre Joe Thornton instead of Brodeur.

Last year, Montreal goaltender Jose Theodore won the Hart, which is voted on by members of the Professional Hockey Writers' Association, while scoring leader Jarome Iginla of the Calgary Flames took the Pearson.

Forsberg and Naslund - with 106 points and 104 points respectively - were the league's top two scorers this season while Brodeur led the NHL with 41 victories and nine shutouts. The Devils' goalie also had a stellar 2.02 goals-against average.

Thornton was the only other player to break the 100-point barrier at 101. Also overlooked was Forsberg's teammate Milan Hejduk, the league's only 50-goal scorer this season.

Forsberg, who will get the Art Ross Trophy as league points leader, and Hejduk, who secured the Rocket Richard Trophy as goal-scoring leader, finished tied for the lead in plus-minus differential at plus-52.

Brodeur will try to make it four times in seven years that a goaltender wins both the Hart and the Vezina Trophy as top goaltender.

Dominik Hasek did it with Buffalo in 1997 and 1998 and Theodore won both last year. Before that, it has not been done since Montreal's Jacques Plante won both in 1962.

For the Vezina, Brodeur is up against Toronto's Ed Belfour, the winner in 1991 and 1993, and Turco, who replaced Belfour in Dallas this season.

Belfour, with his first Vezina nomination since 1995, set a Maple Leafs' record with 37 wins. He had a 2.26 goals-against average.

Turco, in his first full season as an NHL starter, led all goalies with a 1.72 average and a .932 save percentage on a defensively solid club.

Niklas Lidstrom of the Detroit Red Wings will be shooting for a third consecutive Norris Trophy as top defenceman.

Lidstrom and the 1999 winner, Al MacInnis of the St. Louis Blues, were each nominated for the sixth time. The third nominee was Hatcher.

Lidstrom led the NHL in ice time, averaging 29 minutes 20 seconds per game, was plus-40 and had 62 points this season.

MacInnis led NHL defencemen with 68 points while Hatcher, nominated for the first time, had 30 points and was plus-37

Gonchar had 67 points and was fourth in the league in ice time at 26:34.

Lidstrom was also nominated - for a fifth year in a row - for the Lady Byng Trophy as the league's most gentlemanly player along with first-time finalists Modano and Alexander Mogilny of the Toronto Maple Leafs. Lidstrom has yet to win the Lady Byng.

The front-runner could be Mogilny, who had 79 points and only 12 penalty minutes this season. Lidstrom had 38 minutes and Modano, who was sixth in league scoring with 85 points, had 30.

MacInnis' impressive defence partner Barret Jackman was nominated for the Calder Trophy as rookie of the year along with left-wingers Rick Nash of the Columbus Blue Jackets and Henrik Zetterberg of Detroit.

Jackman had only three goals and 16 assists, but was a solid plus-23 in a strictly defensive role. Nash, drafted first overall last spring, had 17 goals and 22 assists for Columbus, while Zetterberg, selected 210th overall in 1999, had 22 goals and 22 assists for Detroit.

Lehtinen is in the running for his third Selke Trophy as the best defensive forward against John Madden of New Jersey and Wes Walz of the Minnesota Wild.

Lehtinen, who won in 1998 and 1999 and who was nominated two other times, was a 31-goal scorer and led the Stars at plus-39. Madden, who won the Selke in 2001, had a career-high 41 points and was plus-13.

Walz, in his first nomination, had 32 points and was plus-11.

Walz's coach Jacques Lemaire, whose tight defensive system lifted Minnesota into the playoffs in only its third season and whose team ousted defending champion Detroit in the first round, was nominated for the Jack Adams Award as coach of the year.

Other Adams nominees are Martin and John Tortorella, who led the Tampa Bay Lightning to a surprise playoff berth.

Lemaire won the Adams in 1994 with New Jersey while Martin, a finalist for the fourth time in seven years, took it in 1999.

Hockey writers from each NHL city vote on the Hart, Norris, Selke, Calder and Lady Byng trophies, while the NHL Broadcasters' Association selects the Adams winner and NHL general managers vote on the Vezina Trophy.

Alicia

04-30-2003, 04:17 PM

Walz's coach Jacques Lemaire, whose tight defensive system lifted Minnesota into the playoffs in only its third season and whose team ousted defending champion Detroit in the first round, was nominated for the Jack Adams Award as coach of the year.

Wasn't that the Ducks, or did I miss something?

Turbulence

04-30-2003, 04:44 PM

'Twas the Ducks...the Wild ousted the Avs...still an impressive feat.

Alicia

04-30-2003, 04:50 PM

I think their fact-checker fell asleep before the end of that article.

http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/l0/sleepzz.gif

Shell

04-30-2003, 07:00 PM

hopefully this is a typo too then...

Lidstrom was also nominated - for a fifth year in a row - for the Lady Byng Trophy as the league's most gentlemanly player along with first-time finalists Modano and Alexander Mogilny of the Toronto Maple Leafs. Lidstrom has yet to win the Lady Byng.

drwFischerFan2

04-30-2003, 07:08 PM

Shell

04-30-2003, 07:20 PM

Not a stupid question, and realized I should have said as soon as I hit submit, but I'm lazy ;)

I have no problem at all with Lidstrom's nomination. I'm currently annoyed with Modano over his lil boy tantrums. Maybe this is way out of the ordinary for him, but since he is on a western conference team, I don't know as much about him. Anyhow, whining isn't gentlemanly and that's what he is doing now (on the other side of that, I have enjoyed his Jocks to GIs emails). I do like Mogilny, but I think he just seems tamer with all those nasty leafs around ;) Seems like there are an awful lot of great guys in the league to choose from.

drwFischerFan2

04-30-2003, 07:36 PM

SouthernHockeyChick

04-30-2003, 07:44 PM

Okay I understand now. :) I have to agree that Modano doesn't exactly deserve the Lady Byng b/c of his whining. I really don't care if Lidstrom or Moginly win because I think they are both deserving but I don't know about Modano.

I agree with you. I don't know much about Modano's off-ice activities though so maybe there is a good reason I don't know about. But I can agree with Lidstrom and Mogilny. I've read a lot this year about Mogilny's charitable activities so even though he is a Leaf *gak* I can understand, I guess.

I don't know how they narrow it down for any of these awards though. I think Belfour for the Vezina is a little off....what about Lalime? What about Giguere....he had a good regular season as well. Heck! What about Cechmanek?

talkingcanes

04-30-2003, 07:51 PM

I think Belfour got a lot of credit for keeping the Leafs in the regular season. Aren't the awards based on regular season performance? Not that I want to defend a Leaf (Wesley and maybe Mogilny are exceptions), but I heard a lot during the season that once he settled in, Belfour was a huge part of their success.

didn't turn out that way in the playoffs though ;)

StJacquesRulz25

04-30-2003, 09:32 PM

i know not too many people like roman but come on now he had one of the best goals against average regardless and him and brodeur tied for the jennings trophy so he had to be doing something right and atleast deserved to be nominated but this is just my opinion and i am not taking anything away for the goalies who were nominated because they were good too

drwFischerFan2

04-30-2003, 09:34 PM

Shell

04-30-2003, 09:51 PM

on the other hand, I have read the truly great inspiring stories over this year too.,. such as Big men, little buddies (http://www.freep.com/sports/redwings/mitch7_20030307.htm)

nccanes

04-30-2003, 10:08 PM

This quote from Mogilny about the Lady Byng is hilarious:
"I don't want it," Mogilny told The Star. "Lady Byng, are you kidding me? If they give it to me I won't show up. They'll have to kidnap me to make me go to the awards ceremony."

That is funny I suppose, but I certainly hope he doesn't win it now. Maybe he's afraid that the rest of the Leafs will kick his *ss if he were to win such a thing. :roll: :roll: :sick:

drwFischerFan2

04-30-2003, 10:10 PM

According to this Leafs fan that posts on LetsGoWings, Mogilny was being sarcastic. And I believe the quote is from awhile ago.

nccanes

04-30-2003, 10:11 PM

According to this Leafs fan that posts on LetsGoWings, Mogilny was being sarcastic. And I believe the quote is from a couple weeks ago.

Makes no real difference to me.

Shell

04-30-2003, 10:14 PM

Mogilny: A no-show for NHL awards ceremony?
Apr. 30, 2003. 01:00 AM
Thumbing nose at Lady Byng Trophy
waymoresports.com

Leafs' Belfour could be up for Vezina and Hart

Alexander Mogilny said that if he wins the Lady Byng Trophy he won't show up to claim it, but the Maple Leafs winger should get his invitation today.

The NHL will announce at noon today the three finalists for seven major trophies that will be presented June 12 at the Metro Toronto Convention Centre. Mogilny is one of the favourites for the Byng, which is awarded annually for sportsmanship and gentlemanly conduct combined with a high standard of playing ability. Mogilny topped the Leafs with 79 points but had only 12 penalty minutes.

"I don't want it," Mogilny told The Star last month. "Lady Byng, are you kidding me? If they give it to me I won't show up. They'll have to kidnap me to make me go to the awards ceremony."

Another Leaf with a good chance to be among the award finalists is goaltender Ed Belfour. He should merit serious consideration for the Vezina Trophy and he likely also received votes for the Hart Trophy as most valuable to his team. Belfour was the backbone of the Leafs this season, while setting a franchise record for wins with 37.

The most likely finalists for the Hart Trophy will be three of Peter Forsberg, Markus Naslund, Martin Brodeur, Todd Bertuzzi and Joe Thornton.

SouthernHockeyChick

04-30-2003, 10:25 PM

Yeah, that doesn't seem like the exhibition of gentlemanly conduct to me. :roll:

Stormbringer

04-30-2003, 10:33 PM

According to this Leafs fan that posts on LetsGoWings, Mogilny was being sarcastic. And I believe the quote is from a couple weeks ago.

Makes no real difference to me.

Yeah, that doesn't seem like the exhibition of gentlemanly conduct to me.

Well, we are talking about a Toronto Maple Leaf afterall...I was a bit surprised to hear that Mogilny was one of the finalists for the Lady Byng. IMO, the only Leaf that could and should have qualified for the Lady Byng is Glen Wesley...then again, he's also the only Leaf I like for obvious reasons.

Jeff O Rocks

04-30-2003, 11:20 PM

Mogilny sucks....to go from the 2003 Recipient being Ronnie to giving it to him...that makes me ... :sick: You would think that a player would be thrilled about even being nominated for an award that showed class and great sportmanship....oh I forgot..we are talking about a Leaf!! :mad:

nccanes

06-12-2003, 08:22 AM

The awards are on tonight on ESPN at 8pm.

TORONTO - Hockey fans now know the Stanley Cup will have a New Jersey mailing address for the next year and that the Herculean efforts of Mighty Ducks goaltender Jean-Sebastien Giguere were rewarded with the Conn Smythe Trophy, and there are few unknowns left in the 2002-03 season.

And the last of these questions will be answered Thursday night at the 2003 NHL Awards Television Special where the winners of the League's seven annual postseason awards -- the Hart, Norris, Selke, Calder, Lady Byng, Adams and Vezina trophies will be announced. The Awards show will be broadcast nationally in Canada on CBC and in the United States on ESPN2 from 8-9:30 p.m., ET.

From NHL.com http://www.nhl.com/hockeyu/history/trophies/awards_preview061103.html

SouthernHockeyChick

06-12-2003, 08:43 PM

So far......

Alexander Mogilny is a disgrace to the Lady Byng. I don't care what he's done....not showing up and his comments about not wanting it should automatically have made him inelligible, IMO. (and I can't believe Pat Quinn was able to touch it without the world imploding!)

Yzerman continues to be the class act we always knew he was. What a great guy. And you know what? He doesn't have one of those blonde, bimbo, trophy wives the others do. She's beautiful but in a totally non-traditional sort of way. Stevie rocks!

Glad Brodeur FINALLY got that Vezina, hate that Jackman got the Calder (even though I admit he deserved it...think we could steal him away from St Louis anytime soon?) and glad Lehtinen got the Selke.

Stormbringer

06-12-2003, 08:47 PM

Alexander Mogilny is a disgrace to the Lady Byng. I don't care what he's done....not showing up and his comments about not wanting it should automatically have made him inelligible, IMO. (and I can't believe Pat Quinn was able to touch it without the world imploding!)

Amen and preach on SHC...how on Earth did Mogilny earn the Lady Byng anyway? That should be given for MORE than just having the fewest penalty minutes...

folgersnyourcup

06-12-2003, 09:50 PM

What the....I forgot to turn on the awards. But Mogilny got the Lady Byng???? HAHAHAHAHAHA!

That's just not right. Of the candidates, Lidstrom certainly deserved that award.

puckin_A

06-12-2003, 10:17 PM

I agree about Modano not deserving because of his whining and I have
always been a huge Modano fan.....he really disappointed me this post
season.

Stormbringer

06-12-2003, 10:28 PM

What the....I forgot to turn on the awards. But Mogilny got the Lady Byng???? HAHAHAHAHAHA!

That's just not right. Of the candidates, Lidstrom certainly deserved that award.

Again, amen and preach on Folgers...who were the other candidates besides Mogilny and Lidstrom? Unless there's another choice in there I might agree with, Lidstrom would have been my pick too...

drwFischerFan2

06-12-2003, 10:42 PM

Full list of winners:

Calder (rookie): Barrett Jackman, St. Louis.

Vezina (best goalie): Martin Brodeur, New Jersey.

Lady Byng (gentlemanly play): Alexander Mogilny, Toronto. :sick:

Selke (best defensive forward): Jere Lehtinen, Dallas.

Maurice Richard (most goals): Milan Hedjuk, Colorado.

Art Ross (most points): Peter Forsberg, Colorado.

Hart (MVP): Forsberg, Colorado.

Lester B. Pearson (PA's MVP): Markus Naslund, Vancouver.

Jack Adams (coach): Jacques Lemaire, Minnesota.

Jennings (Lowest team GAA): Bob Esche, Philadelphia, and Martin Brodeur, New Jersey.

King Clancy (charity work): Brendan Shanahan, Detroit Red Wings.

Masterton (perseverance and dedication to hockey): Steve Yzerman, Detroit Red Wings.

Norris (best defenceman): Nicklas Lidstrom, Detroit Red Wings.

I was pretty happy with the results, except for the Lady Byng. I didn't really take Mogilny's comment seriously at first, but b/c of that it makes you wonder why he wasn't at the awards.
Forsberg's comment about the Penguin's and Mario Lemieux was pretty crappy too.

folgersnyourcup

06-12-2003, 11:26 PM

What did Forsberg say? I couldn't find the quote anywhere and I missed the awards.

drwFischerFan2

06-12-2003, 11:41 PM

Something along the lines of he thought Mario was going to win earlier this season, but unfortunately he had to trade his whole team away.

Shell

06-12-2003, 11:49 PM

I agree. He was sitting there waiting for laughter and everyone just sat there pretty much. How disrespectful and rude was that??? I don't think it was intentional but he missed the funny bone on that one

drwFischerFan2

06-13-2003, 12:06 AM

Yeah, I don't think it was an intentional blow but he ended up looking like foolish.

Canesluver

06-13-2003, 10:18 AM

Maybe it sounded better in Swedish when he was practicing in his hotel room, and didn't translate well. . . . :roll:

And since nobody else has mentioned it: What was up with that crappy awful opening "rap" act to start off the show? That was god awful.

Stormbringer

06-13-2003, 10:41 AM

And since nobody else has mentioned it: What was up with that crappy awful opening "rap" act to start off the show? That was god awful.

A "rap" act at the NHL awards?! Oooookay...such an act I can understand being at basketball or football related events, but hockey?! You know the NHL is desperate when they're resorting to stuff like that... :roll:

Jeff O Rocks

06-13-2003, 10:49 AM

Mogilny sounds like a total as*munch....a "good guy" award and he says he doesn't want it and doesn't bother to show up...hmmmmmmmm...makes sense to me!! :roll:

nccanes

06-13-2003, 11:02 AM

And since nobody else has mentioned it: What was up with that crappy awful opening "rap" act to start off the show? That was god awful.

I was waiting for someone to comment too. It was horrible, horrible, and I didn't even watch the whole thing. I changed the channel (was recording it) and couldn't believe it was still going when I switched back.

I heard Chris Clark on 850 talking about having KC and the Sunshine band at the half during the NBA playoffs and I'll have to agree with his sentiment: if you have to resort to "B" or lower acts (I don't know WHAT you'd call that guy last night - "X"?) then it's a sign that you shouldn't have them at all.

I know the awards have a decidely Canadian slant, but surely there are more talented Canadian performers that would be willing to perform?

That was totally horrific.

nccanes

06-13-2003, 11:03 AM

A "rap" act at the NHL awards?! Oooookay...such an act I can understand being at basketball or football related events, but hockey?! You know the NHL is desperate when they're resorting to stuff like that... :roll:

And it was terrible rap. I bet real rappers wouldn't claim it.

SouthernHockeyChick

06-13-2003, 11:41 AM

And since nobody else has mentioned it: What was up with that crappy awful opening "rap" act to start off the show? That was god awful.

Thanks for bringing that up. I was trying to block it out. I thought it was never going to end last night. I mean, I can appreciate a song about hockey....but that sucked.

It was Buck 65 preforming, BTW. I thought I'd heard he was pretty good. If that's the best he's got....someone is mistaken. Sam Roberts also performed. Now him I like.

I wish they'd get Tragically Hip every year. I guess I should be happy they don't have Shania Twain....especially after her hockey fashion show this year (which they did reference...with pictures).

Stormbringer

06-13-2003, 12:08 PM

I wish they'd get Tragically Hip every year. I guess I should be happy they don't have Shania Twain....especially after her hockey fashion show this year (which they did reference...with pictures).

Dang...first Mogilny not showing up for his Lady Byng as he promised (Should have said this earlier, but Mogilny and Lady Byng in the same sentence is an oxymoron.), then a hockey rap, and now a "hockey fashion show" by Shania Twain? I always miss the "good" stuff...what sort of fashions were on display at the hockey fashion show? Not sure I want to find out, but I can't help being curious.

Also, about musical acts that should be at the NHL awards, how about the Barenaked Ladies? Not only did they do some of the music on EA's NHL 2002 video game, but they've shown their appreciation for hockey quite a few times at their concerts. A couple of those times I happened to hear online and really enjoy...one of the members is a Caps fan and was forced to name all Capitals off the top of his head. He does fine until he mentions Ronnie and the members of Fleetwood Mac. :D Also, the Barenaked Ladies talked about getting a box of old hockey cards, (One of the players mentioned is Willy Lindstrom, one of the Canes' talent scouts.) and how they saw Lanny McDonald on a train in Alberta. That goes into a song one of the Ladies "made up" about McDonald, which only lasts a few seconds, (And consists of "Lanny McDonald" being sung over and over to a hockey organ synth and bass.) and then the same Lady admits that he stole it from "Molly McButter". :D

Anyway, the Barenaked Ladies (Are they still together?) would be awesome, as would Rush...that is, if Rush or at least one of its members happens to like hockey.

nccanes

06-13-2003, 12:14 PM

I always miss the "good" stuff...what sort of fashions were on display at the hockey fashion show? Not sure I want to find out, but I can't help being curious.

SHC was being a tad sarcastic ;) as it wasn't a "fashion show" per se. Apparently Shania Twain wore outfits paying tribute to the 6 Canadian NHL teams when she hosted the JUNO awards (Canada's grammys). They showed clips of each outfit from the show.

You can get a glimpse of the Montreal thing on the main page:
http://www.juno-awards.ca/site/homepage/homepage.php

It was all very strange actually.

SouthernHockeyChick

06-13-2003, 12:55 PM

SHC was being a tad sarcastic ;) A tad? You mean you didn't choke on the sarcasm? I'll try harder next time. ;)

It was all very strange actually. Strange doesn't even cover it. :crazy:

Shell

06-13-2003, 12:59 PM

You can always have Phish sing instead ;) They have done the national anthem at several hockey games and the Congressional Record has even praised them on their performance of the National Anthem. Plus, they are huge hockey fans (even if the Flyer's are their team) and the Flyer's likewise go to Phish show (especially LeClair).. Sounds like a match to me! LOL.

StormShaman

06-13-2003, 03:10 PM

And since nobody else has mentioned it: What was up with that crappy awful opening "rap" act to start off the show? That was god awful.

That was Buck 65--who Nova Scotia can keep, thank you very much.

And people made fun of Snow for being a white rapper--at least Snow (Torontonian though he is) was good, not like this yokel.

Sam Roberts was terrific though. I wish they'd get Great Big Sea sometime, too. They would be absolutely rockin'. :)

talkingcanes

06-13-2003, 06:29 PM

I thought the rap was horrible at the beginning.

I want the presenters to read their lines in advance so they can at least sound like they know what they are doing.

And there were other winners not present besides Mogilny. I think his comments were tongue in cheek. Maybe his sense of humor doesn't translate, but that doesn't make him a bad guy.

1Irbegirlforever

06-13-2003, 11:26 PM

I totally missed the awards...http://www.websmileys.de/conf45.gif...i'm so mad at myself. sounds like it was a little crazy with the opening "rap" song...maybe i'm glad i missed that part.

sounds like forsberg put his foot in his mouth...ouch...i like mario, so that was kind of rude for him to say that. oh well, like we all haven't said something a little off in front of thousands of viewers... :roll:

nccanes

06-14-2003, 09:20 AM

Byng tickles absent Almo
Tells his agent he is 'thrilled' ... from California
By LANCE HORNBY, TORONTO SUN

The Maple Leafs haven't won so many National Hockey League awards the past 40 years that they should be skipping the ceremonies when nominated. But Alex Mogilny stood by his promise last night and was a no-show when announced as the winner of the Lady Byng Trophy as the NHL's most gentlemanly player this season. The free-spirit winger, who was at his off-season home in California, was informed he had won the Lady Byng by his agent, J.P. Barry.

"He is thrilled, but he stands by his decision (not to come)," Barry said last night. "He believes more in team awards than individual honours. He realizes great players have won this award, but he just didn't want to stay."

Leafs general manager/coach Pat Quinn accepted on his behalf.

"He's in good company," Quinn said of past winners Ron Francis, Joe Sakic, Red Kelly and Dave Keon. "And he deserves it."

Mogilny, who had just six minor penalties while leading the Leafs with 79 points, edged out Nicklas Lidstrom of the Red Wings by a few third and fourth-place votes in the closest trophy race of the night.

He is the first Leaf since Doug Gilmour took the Frank Selke Trophy (top defensive forward) in 1993 to win an award and the first Byng winner from Toronto since Keon went back-to-back in 1962 and '63 with just one minor penalty in each year.

Mogilny wasn't the only absentee as Dallas Stars' Jere Lehtinen skipped his third Selke, while Jacques Lemaire, the Jack Adams Trophy winner as coach of the year, stayed home to help organize his daughter's wedding.

Doesn't sound like he was the wise-ass he was portrayed to be, but how can he "be thrilled" and "not believe in individual awards" at the same time?

Shell

06-14-2003, 10:51 AM

*shrug* I believe his own quotes over his agent, and there has been several. Also, say he were to win the Hart, do you think he would turn that down as well?

talkingcanes

06-14-2003, 11:32 AM

*shrug* I believe his own quotes over his agent, and there has been several. Also, say he were to win the Hart, do you think he would turn that down as well?

I didn't get the impression he turned it down, just that he wasn't there to accept it in person.

Shell

06-14-2003, 01:43 PM

well, turn it down was the wrong choice of words. Change that to "Had no interest in it and did not want it"

SouthernHockeyChick

06-14-2003, 09:19 PM

Yeah, he flat out stated that he didn't want it when he was nominated and that they would "have to kidnap him" to get him there. That quote from his agent sounds like a good attempt at PR to me. Who knows....but he sure came off as a jerk about it to me (admittedly biased against the Leafs as I am).

nccanes

06-14-2003, 09:34 PM

Couple of things that would have helped us all understand his true feelings. If the remarks about not wanting it were misconstrued:

"I don't want it," Mogilny told The Star. "Lady Byng, are you kidding me? If they give it to me I won't show up. They'll have to kidnap me to make me go to the awards ceremony."

Then where were the quotes following this up with "my remarks were off the cuff and not serious".

Or, if he really dislikes individual awards, he could have withdrawn his name from consideration. If for some odd reason they don't allow that (even the Emmys allow for that), then he could have clarified his desire to do so or said something to make us feel a little better about his feelings/intentions.

Of course, it's just MHO. I think this particular award is something that makes his comments all the more annoying.

Jeff O Rocks

06-15-2003, 12:49 AM

Of course, it's just MHO. I think this particular award is something that makes his comments all the more annoying.

I totally agree on this Eileen...of all the awards the Lady Byng deserves to be accepted by someone with class and dignity...not someone that says they would have to be kidnapped to accept it...What a shame..last year Ronnie..this year... a total turd! :mad: