2008 Off Season U/R-FA discussion/signings [Archive]

SoCalcaniac

05-01-2008, 02:50 PM

I think retirement also needs to be thrown into the mix. He was flat out horrendous this season. who knows who's going to offer a slow guy who had a terrible season a contract (though, hey it worked for Roenick)

Agreed on retiring puck_it. Although I think the whole we'll trade you if you don't waive thing in STL probably really contributed to his woes- I would LOVE to see DW go out right- and not on a sour note; revived, a la J.R. and do things on his terms- the ANA thing was clearly them wanting to unload MacDonald's salary- and they found a dance partner in STL- and Burke likes Weight and took him which I can appreciate, I just think the ANA system stinks to high heaven and it's not for DW, so, because I have such a soft spot for that guy, I'd love to see him go one more year and out like the champ that he is...... just me though....

puck_it

05-01-2008, 02:52 PM

not to mentions he's a normal seasons worth of points away from being like the 7th US born to crack 1000 pts

corylav

05-01-2008, 03:01 PM

PHX is so stacked up front with young guys ... I doubt they'd want him either. Hanzal, Mueller and Turris should all be at center next year. Then Reinprecht, Winnik, J. Perrault all as natural centers ... PLUS Chad Kolarik was on fire playing with Kevin Porter in San Antonio after their Frozen Four run with Michigan. That's a lot of centers already... I'm thinking it's prolly the end of the line for Doug unless he wants to be a third-line center somewhere like TB. *shudder*

car3hur

05-02-2008, 08:46 AM

Eklund's UFA list...top 140 by position

(I bolded a couple of defenseman that may fit in well here..)

1. Mats Sundin
2. Daymond Langkow
3. Vinny Prospal
4. Joe Sakic
5. Peter Forsberg
6. Jason Williams
7. Sergei Fedorov
8. Doug Weight
9. Stephane Yelle
10. Martin Straka
11. Brendan Morrison
12. Jeremy Roenick
13. Michael Peca
14. Stu Barnes
15. Chris Kelly
16. Craig Conroy
17. Bryan Smolinski
18. Chris Gratton
19. Yanic Perreault
20. Jimmy Dowd
21. Randy Robitaille
22. Bobby Holik
23. Erik Rasmussen
24. Marty Reasoner
25. Josef Vasicek
26. Niko Kapanen
27. Jaro Hlinka
28. Steven Rucchin
29. Kevyn Adams
30. Glen Metropolit

EKLUND'S TOP 21 UFA LEFT WINGS

1. Kristian Huselius
2. Ryan Malone
3. Andrew Brunette
4. Brendan Shanahan
5. Markus Naslund
6. Sean Avery
7. Ruslan Fedotenko
8. Niklas Hagman
9. Cory Stillman
10. Gary Roberts
11. Matt Cooke
12. Pascal Dupuis
13. Jay Pandolfo
14. Ladislav Nagy
15. Jarkko Ruutu
16. Brad Isbister
17. Jan Hlavac
18. Martin Gelinas
19. Martin Rucinsky
20. Jody Shelley
21. Mike York

EKLUND'S TOP 24 UFA RIGHT WINGS

1. Marian Hossa
2. Brian Rolston
3. Radim Vrbata
4. Pavol Demitra
5. Teemu Selanne
6. Michael Ryder
7. Mark Recchi
8. Antii Miettinen
9. Miro Satan
10. David Vyborny
11. George Laraques
12. Trevor Letowski
13. Owen Nolan
14. Matt Bradley
15. Dallas Drake
16. Martin Lapointe
17. Branko Radivojevic
18. Keith Aucoin
19. Brian Willsie
20. Mike Johnson
21. Arron Asham
22. Shean Donovan
23. Jesse Boulerice
24. Aaron Downey

EKLUND'S TOP 40 UFA DEFENSEMEN

1. Mark Streit
2. Brian Campbell
3. Michal Rozsival
4. Wade Redden
5. John-Michael Liles
6. Rob Blake
7. Ron Hainsey
8. Steve Montador
9. Jeff Finger
10. Mark Eaton
11. Adam Foote
12. Bryan Berard
13. Brad Stuart
14. Mattias Norstrom
15. Jasen Cullimore
16. Paul Mara
17. Bret Hedican
18. Aaron Ward
19. Teppo Numminen
20. Dmitri Kalinin
21. Jason Smith
22. Andreas Lilja
23. Sean Hill
24. Marek Malik
25. Karel Rachunek
26. Aaron Miller
27. Dick Tarnstrom
28. Wade Belak
29. Jim Vandermeer
30. Mike Commodore
31. Brooks Orpik
32. Petteri Nummelin
33. Patrice Brisbois
34. Andrei Zyuzin
35. Nolan Pratt
36. Keith Carney
37. Jaroslav Modry
38. Luke Richardson
39. Glen Wesley
40. David Hale

EKLUND'S TOP 25 UFA GOALIES

1. Cristobal Huet
2. Dan Ellis
3. Jose Theodore
4. Dominik Hasek
5. Ty Conkilin
6. Wade Dublieleiwcz
7. Johan Hedberg
8. Mika Noranen
9. Patrick Lalime
10. Curtis Sanford
11. Olaf Kolzig
12. Brian Boucher
13. Robert Esche
14. Alex Auld
15. Curtis Joseph
16. Johan Holmqvist
17. David Aebischer
18. JS Aubin
19. Jocelyn Thibeault
20. John Grahame
21. Steve Valiquette
22. Scott Clemenson
23. Yann Danis
24. Mike Morrison
25. Wade Flaherty

corylav

05-02-2008, 09:06 AM

I actually like the idea of Montador ... he fills the growing trend of a d-man who can play up front. Plus he's a fighter.

Always take Ek w/ a grain of salt ... but Commodore all the way down to No. 30? Wow. And how is Jason Smith not higher???

Edit: Another Ek favorite of mine ... constant misspellings. Two S's in Jassen, ass.

Mona2006

05-02-2008, 09:34 AM

I would love to have Redden here ..even though he had a poor past season. He is a hard worker and leader. Bring him in with Aaron.. if Wes and Hedi decide to go.

I always liked Cujo for some reason. Even when he played for the Leafs. And although Theo would add to the "decoration" of the team, not sure if he can be the goalie he was a few seasons ago.

nccanes

05-05-2008, 03:17 PM

Once again I just search Perez's list for the letters "Car". This one is a new one:

Marik Malik CAR (e2), Mon (e1), Tor (e2)

SoCalcaniac

05-05-2008, 07:02 PM

Once again I just search Perez's list for the letters "Car". This one is a new one:

Marik Malik CAR (e2), Mon (e1), Tor (e2)

:laugh::crazy::laugh:Yes, because he's spent the last 2 MONTHS in the press box, and he would do a good job keeping Frank company??? Hilarious.

grain of salt iindeed.......

StormShaman

05-05-2008, 08:03 PM

:roll:

atlflames

05-06-2008, 12:16 PM

Once again I just search Perez's list for the letters "Car". This one is a new one:

Marik Malik CAR (e2), Mon (e1), Tor (e2)

That would fill out our shut down pairing of The Sheik and Frank the Tank!

corylav

05-07-2008, 09:40 AM

Belak and Kreps re-sign with Florida. I'd have to guess that means goodbye to Montador.

livinthedream

05-09-2008, 09:15 PM

As suspected, Kolzig won't be returning to the Caps:

A Net Loss For Washington
After 16 Seasons, Kolzig Says He Won't Return to the Capitals

By Tarik El-Bashir (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/staff/email/tarik+el-bashir/)
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 9, 2008; Page E01

Olie Kolzig (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Olie+Kolzig?tid=informline), the Washington Capitals (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Washington+Capitals?tid=informline) goaltender through some of the best and worst moments in the team's history, confirmed yesterday what had been suspected for weeks: He has played his final game for the franchise that drafted him in 1989.

Kolzig's only regret, he said over lunch, is that his tenure did not end the way he always had envisioned it: with him hoisting the Stanley Cup (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Stanley+Cup?tid=informline) and skating around the ice at Verizon Center (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Verizon+Center?tid=informline). Instead, his Capitals career came to an abrupt conclusion April 22, when the free-agent-to-be watched from the bench as the Philadelphia Flyers (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Philadelphia+Flyers?tid=informline) vanquished Washington in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference quarterfinals.

"For me, it was disappointing the way it ended," said Kolzig, who led the Capitals to their only Stanley Cup finals appearance in 1998. "It's unfortunate, because they have a good team here now. It's a fantastic team, fantastic group of guys. Not to be a part of that is going to be tough, especially after 17 years and three years of what we went through post-lockout."

much more at
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/08/AR2008050802977.html

Captain Slack

05-10-2008, 07:47 AM

End of an era. :(

If Leighton doesn't make the cut as Cam's backup, I'd love to have Olie instead.

caneshockeychick

05-10-2008, 08:50 AM

I knew when the Craps drafted Huet that Kolzig's time was done there. I don't think he could have sat backup to the team he carried over the years and if Wash had never had Kolzig, they would have never won half the games they won.

I've always been a huge fan of Kolzig, not only for his on ice skills but how he's talked about his personal life and son, and being there for other players in that situation. If he doesn't hang'em up, I hope he does go to a contender.

nccanes

05-13-2008, 10:02 PM

From a few days ago

On the free agent front, Chiarelli said that the team is negotiating with unrestricted free agents Aaron Ward and Glen Metropolit and restricted free agents Wideman and Chuck Kobasew.

evan

05-13-2008, 10:12 PM

I have always had a profound appreciation for the guys who stuck with their teams through thick and thin and bled the colors of their team. Ollie The Goalie is definitely one of those guys.

nccanes

05-20-2008, 09:26 AM

From the 5/18

The Bruins have offers out to Aaron Ward and Glen Metropolit, but it's a good bet that they are only one-year offers. Unless they get at least another year, they'll probably opt to see what's out there in the free agent market . . .

Guyute

05-20-2008, 01:30 PM

Doesn't seem like Anybody is taking 1 year deals anymore.

corylav

05-20-2008, 03:15 PM

posted this on the Canes thread too... Ward staying with B's:

The Boston Bruins announced Tuesday that the club has signed defenceman Aaron Ward to a multi-year contract extension.

Per club policy, terms of the deal will not be disclosed.

Ward, 35, appeared in 65 regular season games for the Bruins last year and registered five goals and 13 points.

The Ottawa native was originally drafted fifth overall in the 1991 NHL Entry Draft by the Winnipeg Jets and was traded from Winnipeg to Detroit where he won back-to-back Stanley Cups during the 1996-1997 and 1997-1998 campaigns.

Ward had his best season statistically during Carolina's 2006 championship season, as he notched career bests in goals (six), assists (19) and points (25). He then signed with the New York Rangers as a free agent following the '05-'06 season before being traded to the Bruins

Ward has played in 697 regular season games in his career, tallying 128 points and 630 penalty minutes. In 84 postseason contests, he recorded nine points and 71 penalty minutes.

caneshockeychick

05-20-2008, 03:20 PM

Again....Damn!!! :(

Guyute

05-20-2008, 03:21 PM

Bummer. I'd have liked to have him back.

Canesluver

05-20-2008, 03:58 PM

Maybe he's grown fond of their baked beans...... or...... cream pies?

:smoke:

nccanes

05-21-2008, 09:18 AM

Here's the leaked contract details

According to an NHL source, Ward signed a two-year, $5 million contract. His annual cap hit will be $2.5 million.

SoCalcaniac

05-21-2008, 11:48 AM

I'm not a Scott Cullen fan on TSN, but I thought at least he did his homework this time- from the TSN.ca Off Season Game Plan column lots of things to discuss here:

Off Season Game Plan:Hurricanes

Hit hard by injuries, the Carolina Hurricanes missed the playoffs for the second straight season following their 2006 Stanley Cup win.
Off-Season Game Plan examines Carolina's talented roster and what they could do to get back into the postseason.
"It's an empty pit-woulda, coulda, shoulda's," coach Peter Laviolette told reporters at season's end. "It's a very difficult pill to swallow for everybody."
Looking at the crucial players who missed time due to injury -- most notably, Ray Whitney (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=1546) (16 games), Rod Brind'Amour (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=269) (23 games), Matt Cullen (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=424) (23 games), Scott Walker (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=740) (24 games) and Justin Williams (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=2150) (45 games) -- it's easy enough to project a healthier Hurricanes team into the playoffs.
However, Carolina can't only attribute their shortfall to injuries as they didn't have a capable power play quarterback defenceman until they traded for Joe Corvo (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=879) in February and addressing that glaring need sooner could have easily been enough to make up the two points to get into the playoffs.
Or, playing in the worst division in hockey, the 'Canes could have secured one more win in the final couple of weeks of the season when facing their divisional rivals.
That's what happens when there is such a small difference between making the playoffs and missing out; any number of small factors could make the difference.
It's up to the management to prepare contingency plans so that they can deal with factors like injuries and slumps and still make the playoffs and that's the challenge that falls on the Hurricanes this summer, because the core is still talented enough for the 'Canes to be playoff contenders.

Whole thing:

http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/scott_cullen/?id=238392&lid=headline&lpos=secStory_nhl

hyena

05-21-2008, 01:54 PM

from ESPN.com:

Roenick will play another season with San Jose

San Jose Sharks forward Jeremy Roenick has agreed to terms on a contract and will return for the 2008-09 season, the team said Wednesday.

TSN of Canada reported on its Web site the contract was worth about $1 million.

"Jeremy Roenick was a warrior for our team on and off the ice this past season," Sharks executive vice president Doug Wilson said.

Roenick scored 14 goals and added 19 assists in 69 games for the Sharks last season. He scored 10 game-winning goals, second-most in the NHL, as well as three shootout winners.

In 1,321 games over 19 seasons, Roenick has 509 goals and 694 assists with 1,439 penalty minutes.

Canesluver

05-21-2008, 01:56 PM

:nanner: I love JR! :D I want him to hoist that CUP!!

Guyute

05-21-2008, 02:20 PM

yep. I don't think there's a player I'd like to see win a Cup more than JR at this point.

Deke

05-21-2008, 02:33 PM

yep. I don't think there's a player I'd like to see win a Cup more than JR at this point.

Same here. It will be a shame if he doesn't get to lift it before he retires.

Canesluver

05-21-2008, 02:38 PM

You know... if next year.... near the trade deadline... and if the 'Canes are hot, and the Sharks are not.... I wouldn't mind getting JR for a rental, if we didn't give up much to get him. We made Dougie's dream come true-- why not JR's? :D

puck_it

05-21-2008, 04:32 PM

i agree with the previous few comments. I'd love to see JR in our sweater.

However, we'd have to be pretty fricken good for him to ask for a trade. Leaving a team with Joe Thornton on it is nuts if you think about it.

hyena

05-21-2008, 08:49 PM

nccanes

05-22-2008, 07:16 AM

I have a question.

I heard on XM recently (and read it somewhere, but think it was a fan blog so still not a legit source) that Jack Johnson is already going into year 3 of his Entry Level Contract. Now, he didn't play that many games after he left UM to play for them right? If you look up his stats he played 5 games. Does that really burn year 1 of his ELC? Or does it all work differently because he wasn't a Jr player. Or was this simply a contract negotation point (if that's even possible). I'm confused.

In any event, it seems like he's going to get to negotiate again a year from now. Interesting.

SoCalcaniac

05-22-2008, 08:37 AM

E, I heard that same interview on XM while on the way up to PIT, it was with Dean Lombardi- Kings GM- yep, he played those 5 games, and that did burn the year on his ELC, I was/am kinda confused on it, and you just jarred my memory to go back and look at my copy of the CBA- it might be an age related glitch in the CBA or something else related to the 5 games and no postseason time(?) I'm reaching, so I better go look it up, lol.

nccanes

05-22-2008, 08:39 AM

Ok - at least I'm not crazy.

IF (and that's a big IF), that was a negotiating tactic to burn a year, then JJ is starting out playing hardball. I mean, 5 games for a team that KNOWS it's not going to the playoffs, and you have to eat a year of his RFA life?

SoCalcaniac

05-22-2008, 10:11 AM

Ok E, so I did my nerd impression and went in and looked it up during a mind numbing conference call that went on and on for an hour when it was supposed to just be 30min.

So here's the deal on SPC's for EL players and that 10 games provision. According to Article 9- Entry Level Compensation, page 23 (article (d) (i) ) that provision for players who do not play at least 10 games, and extending the contract only applies to the kids who sign at age 18 and 19.
Mr. Johnson signed his ELC at age 20, so the proviso doesn't apply; he played the 5 games, that burned his first year and apparently you can have it written in the contract that if the player only plays under 10 games you can extend it into another year- but it has to be added in there for over age 20. There are all these interesting items in here for ELC's for European players, etc. and now I figured out why the Fabian Brunstrumm contract with Dallas is the way it is.

So anyway, there it is. and yep hardball indeed.

Captain Slack

05-22-2008, 01:21 PM

The more I learn about JJ, the better the Gleason trade looks. :crazy:

Guyute

05-22-2008, 01:38 PM

Hmm. He certainly appears to be a piece of work...

SoCalcaniac

05-22-2008, 02:27 PM

Looks like the Caps have signed that Karl Alzner kid their first rounder from the CLB draft. Word is they expect him to make the team out of camp- and he's quite a player; I recall overhearing some people at the hotel when we were in Columbus talking about him and 'whoever gets him'

So the Caps days in the basement are slowly starting to payoff......

Arlington, VA (Sports Network) - The Washington Capitals signed defenseman Karl Alzner (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=6208) to a three-year entry-level contract on Thursday.
Per team policy, terms of the deal were not disclosed.
The 19-year-old Alzner, who was the fifth overall selection in the 2007 NHL Entry Draft, recently completed his fourth season with the Calgary Hitmen of the Western Hockey League and was named the WHL Player of the Year and Defenseman of the Year in 2007-08 after recording 36 points (seven goals, 29 assists) in 60 games.
"We're very excited for Karl as today marks the start of his pro career," said Hitmen coach Kelly Kisio. "Not only has Karl been an excellent defenseman for the Calgary Hitmen but his leadership off the ice will leave a lasting impact in our dressing room."

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c-girl

05-23-2008, 11:16 AM

Uh oh. From Luke's blog:

Tim Gleason's agent, Pat Morris, said Friday that negotiations over the restricted free agent's contract have stalled.
"Things have ground to a halt," Morris said. "They're staring at us and we're staring at them. We're not prepared to do a deal at their numbers and they're not prepared to do a deal at our numbers."
[More:]
Wednesday, Hurricanes general manager Jim Rutherford said the two sides were engaged in bargaining (http://www.newsobserver.com/796/story/1081204.html)over the length of the deal: a two-year contract that takes him up to his eligibility for unrestricted free agency or a longer deal that buys him out of a year or two of free agency.
If he isn't re-signed by July 1, Gleason could be the target of offer sheets from other teams. While the Hurricanes retain matching rights, they would only receive draft picks in return if they chose not to match any offers.
Morris said he hasn't seriously discussed the offer-sheet process with Gleason yet, but that the negotiations with Carolina have run out of common ground.
"I'd call it breathing space," Morris said. "We'll re-evaluate our positions, but at this point there are no future talks. The objective is still to get Tim signed."
Morris also represents Chad LaRose, another restricted free agent, and said negotiations on his contract were just beginning.

nccanes

05-23-2008, 11:18 AM

Thanks for posting this C-girl.

I think I'm going to post this in its own thread in the Hurricanes Forum.

nccanes

05-23-2008, 12:39 PM

Don't read this (http://bruins.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=364056) if you have a tendency to miss Aaron Ward. Love reading all his quotes. But I'm glad he's happy and excited about his new contract.

corylav

05-23-2008, 12:43 PM

Captain Slack

05-28-2008, 09:26 AM

Minor trade between Bruins & Jackets:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=239027&lid=sublink02&lpos=headlines_nhl

nccanes

06-15-2008, 07:01 AM

This from Andy Strickland...a media person in St. Louis (and hockeybuzz blogger)

Doug Weight would still like to play another 2-3 seasons and is looking forward to this fall. You can expect Weight to hear from several teams including the New York Islanders and possibly Tampa Bay come early July.

There will be some clubs needing to add depth up the middle or looking for a power play specialist.

Don’t count this guy out, several people learned their lesson by saying Jeremy Roenick was done prior to him coming back to life this past season.

puck_it

06-15-2008, 02:19 PM

yikes, 2-3 seasons? love his game, but i'm not sure he can pull 3 seasons. That said i think this year was an anomaly, he wasnt exactly in a system that suits his style of play. I hope he gets a decent contract, and does well.

KaniacFever

06-16-2008, 01:58 PM

I know Eklund makes crap up, but is he really that stupid. Atleast make sense when you make stuff up:

Ray Emery-Possibility of getting moved 60%...Teams interested inlude...Washington, Chicago, LA, and Carolina.

I can give 3 reasons why Carolina is NOT interested in Emery

SoCalcaniac

06-16-2008, 02:17 PM

The number 1 being that Ecklund is an idiot and makes sh*t up and when he feels like he's not shining a spotlight on a team, he'll pick our team out of the hat cause he has NO "contacts" down here and needs to make it look like he pays any attention to the rest of the league and not the teams within driving distance from his cardboard box residence under a bridge in Philly or wherever he pretends to live.

Earth to Ek- we signed our backup goalie and we don't deal with cancer types much. Find another team to tag him to.

Have I said enough how much that tool irks me? :lol:

SouthernHockeyChick

06-16-2008, 03:44 PM

Aw, now, c'mon. You know Eklund has a contact down here. It's just that it's rough going in the off-season cause they shut those Nutty Bavarian carts down, so it's sorta hard for the nut-roaster to get much insider info.

nccanes

06-16-2008, 04:04 PM

The most annoying part of Perez Eklund's schtick is the "oh so obvious make this sh1t up and get more hits" variety of story.

Remember the whole "Feaster and Tortorella to TO as a package deal"? Didn't he recently have a Malkin to TO rumor?

My personal favorites are the "pre UFA status" rumors about player X and new team Y. How on earth can anyone even leak info about negotiations that aren't allowed to take place.

StormShaman

06-16-2008, 06:03 PM

It's simple--he just trawls messageboards (like those at hfboards) and steals all the trolls' BS so he can pass it off as his own.

puck_it

06-16-2008, 06:28 PM

It's simple--he just trawls messageboards (like those at hfboards) and steals all the trolls' BS so he can pass it off as his own.

:deadhorse:

KaniacFever

06-16-2008, 08:05 PM

Remember the whole "Feaster and Tortorella to TO as a package deal"? Didn't he recently have a Malkin to TO rumor?

He did. It went from Malkin to LaCavalier to now Jokinen. Like Toronto has anybody worth a damn to give up for these guys

livinthedream

06-17-2008, 07:24 AM

And still people spend their valuable time and electrons visiting his site. :huh:

I don't know very much about the whole RFA/arbitration thing, but in the lastest emailing from the Pens, looks like that's where Fleury is headed:

The Pittsburgh Penguins have elected to file for salary arbitration with goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury, it was announced Friday by Executive Vice President and General Manager Ray Shero.

Arbitration hearings are set by the National Hockey League and take place from July 20 to August 4. Both sides can continue to negotiate a contract until that time. As a result of the filing, the Penguins retain his rights and he will not become a restricted free agent on July 1.

"By filing for salary arbitration it gives us extra time to continue to negotiate a contract with Marc-Andre," stated Ray Shero. "As a result of the filing, Penguins' fans are assured that Marc-Andre will be under contract to our club for next season. Marc-Andre has done a tremendous job for us. We remain committed to negotiating a contract with him in the near future."

SoCalcaniac

06-17-2008, 07:31 AM

LTD- I think it's a pardon the pun stall tactic, to hold up the "offer sheet" that could go to Fleury when July 1 comes-so they can continue to negotiate the terms up until arbitration day (most of the arbitrations scheduled never get to the arbitrator cause the team and the player can negotiate all the way up to that day)

Anyhoo, the Penguins should figure this thing out fast. From the minute they drafted Fleury- no check that- the day he came to camp at 18, up to right now, the way they have handled MAF from that whole play him for 9 games so his contract doesn't start when he was 18, sending him to the World Jrs, then back to his junior team in Cape Breton and on and on, they have really handled everything about their #1 pick in the Eric Staal draft horribly. I mean like crap. So they better get this done right, and hope that it doesn't go in front of the arbitrator- nothing good comes from the whole sit down with the arbitrator thing. Just ask any guy who has to go through it.

The intrigue for me is who is getting bought out. They only have til Friday correct???

livinthedream

06-17-2008, 07:45 AM

That's what Mr. LTD said too, that they are just buying more time. It's obvious they have no intentions of giving Fleury up. Does this scenario happen often? Seems to me that with a hot commodity like Fleury, the risk of another team tendering an offer would be higher than the risk of making it to the arbitration date without a negotiated contract.

nccanes

06-17-2008, 08:03 AM

SoCalcaniac

06-17-2008, 08:05 AM

LTD- I don't recall in the last couple years this specific thiing happening- but this is more unique because he's a clear high end player- so they had to protect that asset because Fleury would likely get an offer sheet, they're clearly protecting him. I don't know that we've had a high enough profile guy to see it happen, but I'd bet that Philly might be next with Jeff Carter another RFA who'd likely get a nice offer sheet- and some team wanting to pay the favor back for what B. Clarke did with Ryan Kesler a couple seasons ago.

ontheboards

06-17-2008, 10:29 AM

I don't recall that being used in the past. Seems like a HUGE loophole that circumvents the idea of RFA status.

If both sides agree to it, then I'm fine with it, but if a club does it to 'protect' a player, that seems like it violates the spirit of RFA status.

Isn't there a limit, though, to the # of times a team can file for arb with a player?

The NY Rangers did it with Lundquist a year or two ago to keep him in the fold. The Rangers were worried about an offer on Lundquist and wanted the time to develop a longer term deal and address their cap issues, thus brought him to arbitration. I don't remember if they actually went through it or were able to work out a one year deal while they rememdied cap issues. It's the same intent with Fleury.

nccanes

06-18-2008, 02:22 PM

Guess Prospal's headed back to Hockeybay USA (lol)

The Philadelphia Flyers announced Wednesday that they have traded the rights to forward Vaclav Prospal to the Tampa Bay Lightning in exchange for a seventh round pick in the 2008 NHL Entry Draft and a conditional pick in the 2009 NHL Entry Draft.

"Vinny really didn't express much of an interest in coming back and playing for us next season," said General Manager Holmgren in making the announcement. "His heart is elsewhere."

SoCalcaniac

06-18-2008, 02:32 PM

Is there a record on how many times a dude can go back to his 'old' team? :lol: Good lord, it's so dysfunctional.

nccanes

06-18-2008, 02:50 PM

I say Vinnie doesn't sign with them and then he'll REALLY have "shove it up to someone's butt". :lol:

But alas, the butt he wants to shove something up to is Torts and he's a goner.

Does make you wonder how much Tampa is going to evolve after last season if it's old home off-season again.

nccanes

06-18-2008, 09:24 PM

Because I don't think Glenn Healy deserves his own thread, I'm putting this here. Let's hope he's a bit less obnoxious in his NHLPA dealings. :lol:

Glenn Healy has been named the new Director of Player Affairs for the National Hockey League Players' Association.

Healy will fulfill a wide range of responsibilities for the Players' Association. In his role, he will focus on player relations, coordinating his efforts with the NHLPA's Ombudsman and Divisional Representatives, along with working closely with the NHL Alumni office.

ontheboards

06-19-2008, 04:45 AM

Because I don't think Glenn Healy deserves his own thread, I'm putting this here. Let's hope he's a bit less obnoxious in his NHLPA dealings. :lol:
He'll only be less obnoxious becasue he won't have a microphone or TV camera in front of him as often and thus, I won't have to watch him.

SoCalcaniac

06-19-2008, 07:23 AM

Amen and double amen. Glenn Healey needs no thread for himself- he's already a legend in his own mind; no need for us to contribute to it.

No "Heals" FANTASTIC. I heard that news the other day and broke out into a dance of joy.

Kelly Hrudey is my favorite, favorite analyst on any hockey broadcast and Healey is easily the dude I can't stand - not today not ever. He is the most caustic person ever. Put it this way, I'd endure 24 straight hours of Tripp talkin' his crazy talk than to hear Glenn Healey whine and berate players and never shut up in a broadcast.

Anyway, heaven help the members of the PA if Healey is involved. I guess it's better than him being the Leafs new GM or maybei it's all the same. :lol:

SoCalcaniac

06-25-2008, 07:31 AM

I think this was posted in the Canes off-season thread- but I'll move it here - Darcy Tucker is being bought out- as is Wellwood and Raycroft:

Kevin McGran
SPORTS REPORTER

Darcy Tucker and Kyle Wellwood are finished as Maple Leafs, and Andrew Raycroft's future is equally in doubt as GM Cliff Fletcher starts fulfilling his promise to clean house.
"We've begun the process," said Fletcher. That process, however, could be hamstrung by Bryan McCabe's huge salary. "We will not be buying out Bryan McCabe."
Fletcher informed Tucker – who had refused to waive his no-movement clause – that he intends to buy out the remaining three years of his contract, for which he was owed $9 million (all figures U.S.). Under the terms of the collective agreement, the Leafs will pay Tucker $6 million and be charged $1 million a year for the next six years under the salary cap.
"We called Darcy, we had a talk and said we'd begin the process of buying him out," said Fletcher. "Darcy's a real professional. He anticipated something was coming. He's looking forward to getting his career back on track somewhere else."
Tucker's agent Carlos Sosa said his client was disappointed to be leaving the Maple Leafs. "He'd like to be a Leaf, but it was a business decision," said Sosa. "He loves Toronto. That's where he's going to live when he's finished playing. He's got lots of hockey left in him."
Earlier yesterday, Fletcher put Wellwood and Raycroft on waivers, giving the other 29 teams until noon today to claim either of them.
In Wellwood's case, it means his career as a Maple Leaf is over. If another team doesn't claim him, the Leafs won't make him a qualifying offer prior to July 1, making Wellwood an unrestricted free agent.
In Raycroft's case, he may yet return to the club if he clears waivers. The Leafs may buy him out, or send him to the minors, clearing $2 million in cap space.
In his moves, Fletcher has focused on the team's biggest underachievers. Tucker had a horrible season, his first on a four-year, $12 million contract. The winger wasn't nearly as feisty as he usually was, losing his spot on the power play, and saw his offensive numbers drop to 18 goals, 16 assists in 74 games.
Wellwood earned $950,000 last year, but the Leafs are no longer interested in the diminutive, often out-of-shape and often hurt playmaker.
The 25-year-old Wellwood had eight goals and 13 assists in 59 games last year, having twice undergone hernia surgery and currently has a broken foot. Wellwood often drew the ire of former coach Paul Maurice, and was singled out for lacking fitness.
"They didn't see a spot for me to play," Wellwood told The FAN 590. "It's partly my own fault that I didn't play well enough last year."
Raycroft lost the starting job to Vesa Toskala in 2007-08 and was limited to 19 games. The 29-year-old went 2-9-5 with a 3.92 GAA.
The Leafs got the former Calder Trophy winner two years ago – in a trade with Boston that cost the Leafs highly-touted goaltending prospect Tuukka Rask. Raycroft tied a team record with 37 wins in 2006-07, but his season was uneven and confidence appeared shot.
Another team may claim him, the Leafs may buy him out turning him into a free agent, or he may end up with the AHL Marlies.
"Andrew's an NHL goalie," said Fletcher. "But Toskala is probably going to play in the area of 60 games. I'm sure Andrew would rather be in a better situation than that."
McCabe dodges the bullet largely because the salary cap hit would be too prohibitive to buy him out. The Leafs would be stuck for about $3 million (all figures U.S.) a year for the next three years and $1.6 million a year for an additional three years if they bought out McCabe.
The Islanders are said to be interested in McCabe if he waives his no-movement clause, but agent Ian Pulver says his client wants to remain with the Maple Leafs.
"Believe it or not, Bryan likes it in Toronto," said Pulver. As things stand, the Leafs have about $40 million committed to 18 players, including Raycroft, leaving them about $16 million under the expected 2008-09 salary cap.
Mats Sundin's negotiating rights remain exclusively with the Montreal Canadiens, despite erroneous reports that the New York Rangers were also in on the bargaining.

Guyute

06-25-2008, 10:46 AM

I really thought Wellwood was going to be a force. Injuries are one thing, but not caring enough to get/stay in shape? Unacceptable. A real shame. I wish I had that kind of talent. To throw it away... sheesh.

apolinar

06-25-2008, 11:32 AM

Ok, since hordichuk didn't sign, darcy tucker for 1 year at 1 million since he is getting 6 now. make him a dastardly cane.

corylav

06-25-2008, 11:51 AM

Stumpel getting bought out ...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=241638

corylav

06-25-2008, 12:05 PM

Something to think about with Anderson being officially named the Thrashers coach ...

Barry Melrose — 220 NHL regular season games coached (nearly 15 years ago)
John Anderson — 0 NHL games coached
Peter DeBoer — 0 NHL games coached
Bruce Boudreau — 61 NHL games coached

Peter Laviolette — 461 NHL games coached

Only DeBoer (39) is younger than Peter.

Captain Slack

06-25-2008, 12:54 PM

Canucks claim Wellwood. Hopefully Vignault can get him to shape up.

CANUCKS CLAIM CENTRE WELLWOOD OFF WAIVERS

TSN.ca Staff
6/25/2008 12:45:33 PM

The Vancouver Canucks added some depth down the middle for next season, claiming soon-to-be restricted free agent centre Kyle Wellwood off waivers from the Toronto Maple Leafs.

The Canucks can retain his rights by giving him a qualifying offer and he would not become an unrestricted free agent. "I was really excited," Wellwood told CKNW radio in Vancouver. "I wasn't sure what was going to happen and what other teams in the NHL would think of me, but for Vancouver to take a chance and pick me up - I'm really happy."

Last season, Wellwood struggled through an injury-riddled campaign as he dealt with a nagging groin injury. Tabbed as a second-line player with the Maple Leafs out of training camp, the playmaking centre finished with just 21 points in 59 games.

In 2006-07, Wellwood missed 33 games after undergoing surgery to repair a sports hernia.

corylav

06-25-2008, 12:59 PM

Doesn't he kinda look like Kyle Busch?

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/06/25/wellwood_kyle_courtesy_400.jpg

http://www.kylebusch.org/images/kyle-busch-pic1.jpg

Captain Slack

06-25-2008, 02:47 PM

'Yotes acquire McGrattan from Sens.

COYOTES ACQUIRE MCGRATTAN FROM SENATORS

TSN.ca Staff
6/25/2008 3:03:59 PM

The Arizona Republic reports that the Phoenix Coyotes have acquired forward Brian McGrattan from the Ottawa Senators for a a fifth-round pick in 2009.

McGrattan is set to become a restricted free agent on July 1.

The 26-year-old has played parts of the past three seasons with the Senators, scoring 10 points and 287 penalty minutes in 143 games.

McGrattan was the Los Angeles Kings' fourth-round pick (No. 104 overall) in 1999.

SouthernHockeyChick

06-25-2008, 04:32 PM

Ok, since hordichuk didn't sign, darcy tucker for 1 year at 1 million since he is getting 6 now. make him a dastardly cane.

:D

apolinar

06-25-2008, 05:35 PM

Yes that was for you and E.

puck_it

06-25-2008, 05:41 PM

****. is that all that it would have taken for McGrattan? Man.... I'd have done that in a heart beat. forget hordichuk.

dakuwan

06-25-2008, 06:03 PM

Just saw on the ESPN ticker that the Lightning have signed Lecavalier to a 9 year, $77 million dollar deal.

According to THN.com they cant announce the extension until July because of the CBA, but its a done deal.
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/16817-New-Lightning-owners-making-things-happen-including-keeping-Lecavalier.html

Also mentions Prospal gets a 4 year, $14 million dollar deal.

svandijk1

06-25-2008, 09:18 PM

****. is that all that it would have taken for McGrattan? Man.... I'd have done that in a heart beat. forget hordichuk.

Maybe that's what it took to get it done with a Western Conference team.

nccanes

06-25-2008, 09:19 PM

Yes that was for you and E.

And we appreciate it!

Someone at work walked by this afternoon and said "so are you fired up the Canes signed Tucker" and I started to say "ha ha ha" and then I paused to wonder "did they?" and then he admitted he was joking.

I still have my "Darcy Tucker is making people miserable" photo from an old ESPN magazine on my cube wall.

http://home.nc.rr.com/united91/canes/tucker.JPG

puck_it

06-25-2008, 09:28 PM

Maybe that's what it took to get it done with a Western Conference team.

true... that, and they're prolly pissed Stillman and Commie didnt win them a Cup :evil:

SoCalcaniac

06-26-2008, 08:17 AM

Talk about don't let the door hit ya on the way out- :lol: I wonder what would happen if one of our ticket reps did this??? From today's Miami Herald and Olli Jokinen's #1 fan- David J Neal.:

Email maligns Jokinen's desire
BY DAVID J. NEAL
Miami Herald
An e-mail sent to some Panthers season-ticket holders by a Panthers account executive excoriated recently traded Panthers captain Olli Jokinen as playing ''with little heart or passion'' and showing ``no leadership or improvement.''
This two-hand slash to the character of Jokinen, Panthers captain from October 2003 until his trade to Phoenix on Saturday for two defensemen and a second-round draft pick, came in a three-paragraph e-mail Tuesday morning from Ryan Powers, an account executive for Sunrise Sports & Entertainment. Recent major personnel moves have been followed by e-mails to season-ticket holders explaining the Panthers' case for making the move. Those usually happen with the combined efforts of several parties in the organizational chain of command, something that apparently didn't happen this time.
''When I heard about it, I was shocked and surprised,'' Panthers chief executive officer Michael Yormark said Wednesday morning by phone. ``This is not the kind of communication we condone and is unacceptable. We've addressed the issue with the individual. Not only with the individual, but with the entire staff. I can assure you this is not the kind of communication you will see in the future.''
Yormark said that in his five years with the Panthers, this is the first time he has heard of such an incident.
In the first paragraph of Powers' e-mail, Powers discussed what he believed defensemen Nick Boynton and Keith Ballard would bring to the Panthers. The second paragraph took several runs at Jokinen (the paragraph is presented verbatim):
``Olli is a great player, but he has shown no leadership or improvement, and he never came through for us when we needed him the most. As a stat, Jokinen scored 5 goals in the last 24 games, this is not acceptable for a Captain of an NHL organization. He played with little heart or passion and never had the determination to reach the playoffs. This move was done for one reason only, to make the postseason and return the passion and energy into this arena.''
Jokinen, the No. 3 overall pick in the 1997 NHL Draft, turned his career around with the Panthers. After two seasons with the Panthers and just more than three in the NHL, Jokinen had 35 goals and 52 assists for 87 points in 314 games. During the next five seasons, he would roll up four 30-goal seasons and two 50-assist seasons and become the Panthers' all-time leader in goals, assists and points.
In the 11 games before the Panthers lost the March 20 game to Carolina -- which the franchise promoted as the biggest game since their last playoff appearance, in 2000 -- Jokinen had three goals and seven assists as the Panthers got back into playoff contention. The Panthers missed the playoffs in each of his seven seasons. ''Of course I'm disappointed if somebody has said that,'' Jokinen said in a text message after a message was left on his phone. ``I honestly tried my best in all areas, whether it was on ice or outside the rink.''

corylav

06-26-2008, 08:36 AM

I saw that SoCal ... brutal.

Now this interests me:

A question to ponder: Might the Predators’ glut of defensemen lead to a trade of Marek Zidlicky?

It’s worth some consideration, given that the no-trade portion of Zidlicky’s contract runs out at the end of this month.

While it’s true that Zidlicky has averaged 44 points over the past four seasons, a number matched by few other defensemen, it’s also true that his production has dipped the past couple of seasons. He notched 53 and 49 points his first two seasons, 30 and 43 points over the last two years.

In particular, Zidlicky’s goal-scoring has dropped. He posted 14 goals during his first season and 12 in his second, but has totaled just four and five, respectively, over the last two seasons.

Zidlicky is considered a key component of the power play (he led the team with 25 man-advantage points last season), but the Predators’ power play finished 27th in the league last season and he has to shoulder some responsibility there.

I thought his defensive play improved last year over 2006-07, but he’s still a risk taker who finds himself out of position at times.

It might be interesting to see what Zidlicky would fetch on the trade market, considering he would clear $3.35 million worth of cap room. Is there a talented forward that might be snared in a deal? If so, would a player like Ville Koistinen be able to pick up Zidlicky’s power-play time?

Just a little food for thought.

FWIW, Zidlicky is signed through next season at a cost of $3.5M per year.

Edit add: They also have a d-man, Alexander Sulzer, that's ready to make the jump to the NHL. If JR is willing to take a risk on an unproven guy, he could be a nice find, too.

puck_it

06-26-2008, 09:37 AM

I wonder if they'll take Vasicek.

puckin_A

06-26-2008, 09:55 AM

****. is that all that it would have taken for McGrattan? Man.... I'd have done that in a heart beat. forget hordichuk.

me too!!!

Mona2006

06-26-2008, 11:35 AM

Email maligns Jokinen's desire
BY DAVID J. NEAL
Miami Herald
An e-mail sent to some Panthers season-ticket holders by a Panthers account executive excoriated recently traded Panthers captain Olli Jokinen as playing ''with little heart or passion'' and showing ``no leadership or improvement.''

Except when he played against us! Little sh*t knew good and well when he left our place in April they wouldn't beat the Caps. Guess that comes from all the times they got the middle finger when leaving. :D

I hope the WC teams beat the sh*t out of him on a regular basis. :evil:

corylav

06-27-2008, 12:17 PM

Some waivers, most notably Bertuzzi. Also, the Isles put Shawn Bates on waivers.

nccanes

06-27-2008, 03:46 PM

Wow, I know Jeff Carter is valuable. But 3yrs/15 million dollars....wow!

Everytime I see someone getting these numbers I just keep thinking that either the Canes or me (or both) will get priced out of seeing Eric Staal play (in a Canes jersey) pretty soon.

ontheboards

06-27-2008, 04:42 PM

Everytime I see someone getting these numbers I just keep thinking that either the Canes or me (or both) will get priced out of seeing Eric Staal play (in a Canes jersey) pretty soon.

you and me both, sister...you and me both

Caniac4ever

06-29-2008, 08:46 PM

No Liles for us Canes... Just resigned with the Avs for 4 years...:cry:

puck_it

06-29-2008, 09:37 PM

damn

SoCalcaniac

06-30-2008, 07:40 AM

Wow, folks have been busy overnight. Now if the Lightning sign Rolston- then good lord, that could change some things. It's funny how this whole trade the-right-to-negotiate thing is all the rage this year. I'm sure the MN fans are ticked though and surely that's a typo in his age- Rolston looks young but no way is he "25", with 12 NHL seasons under his belt. lol :

The Minnesota Wild traded forward Brian Rolston (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=230)'s rights to the Tampa Bay Lightning in exchange for a conditional draft pick in either the 2009 or 2010 NHL Entry Draft.
The Wild will get a selection in either the 2009 or 2010 draft. The pick will depend on whether Tampa Bay re-signs Rolston before they know what pick Minnesota will get in the deal.
The 25-year-old Flint, Michigan native has 12 NHL seasons under his belt with stints in New Jersey, Colorado, Boston and Minnesota.
The acquisition to the rights of Rolston is the latest move by new Lightning ownership since taking over the team. After drafting Steve Stamkos first overall, Tampa Bay bolstered their lineup by adding Ryan Malone (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=2918) on Saturday as they continue to try to improve on last season's disappointing campaign.
"As we said earlier this week and we are trying to prove after making our deal with Pittsburgh (Saturday), we will work feverishly to improve the Lightning team for the 2008-09 season," owners Oren Koules and Len Barrie said in a joint statement.
"We believe getting the Lightning a head start in the negotiating and signing process can help us secure the players we are targeting. Nothing is guaranteed here, but we hope to have a chance to get another quality player in a Lightning uniform sooner rather than later."
A 1st round, 11th overall draft selection by the Devils in 1991, Rolston's put up 286 goals and 348 assists in 977 NHL games played.
Last season, he tallied 31 goals and 28 assists in 81 games.

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nccanes

06-30-2008, 08:14 AM

I guess OK Hockey doesn't mind covering any losses, because that payroll is going to be large, am I right?

Buy geez, they've got a "presto 2nd line" and scoring with Stamkos, Malone, Rolston (Erik Erlendsson, beat writer, said he expects the signing to be announced today).

KaniacFever

06-30-2008, 08:18 AM

I figured Tampa wanted to make a splash but holy crap. And why are all these players wanting to play with Melrose :lol:

Also last night, Edmonton acquired defenseman Visnovsky. Speculated that with this acquisition, Pitkanen is gone for a scoring forward. Pitkanen has been rumored to LA for Cammalerri (sp) and Carolina for Cole. Speculation that a trade of Pitkanen could go down today. Interesting to see where. Although, both the LA and Carolina rumors came from Perez, so he'll probably end up in Buffalo or something.

EDMONTON SUN: Robert Tychkowski and Terry Jones both report the Oilers acquisition of Visnovsky from the Kings is a prelude to another trade that could see RFA blueliner Joni Pitkanen shopped for a scoring forward. Both reporters suggest such a move could come as early as today.

SPECTOR'S NOTE: Oilers GM Kevin Lowe resisted trading Pitkanen as it was believed he was hoping of getting him under contract for less than $5 million per season, but if the blueliner is unsigned by tomorrow he could be signed away by an offer sheet which Lowe might be unwilling to match, leaving him with nothing to show for his acquisition of Pitkanen last summer. Visnovsky's salary is a big cap hit but with the Oilers new owner Darryl Katz willing to spend up to the cap ceiling of $56.7 million and the strength of the Canadian dollar money obviously isn't a problem for the Oilers. Watch for the "Pitkanen for Erik Cole" rumors with the Hurricanes to flash up again.

SoCalcaniac

06-30-2008, 08:22 AM

Yeah, E- OK Hockey seems to be fine with spending freely.

Michael Russo the beat writer for the Wild in the Star-Tribune has probably the best Blog in hockey - and he said something to the effect that Rolston's gonna be playing in Florida too. His blog had a blow by blow of the right's trading bit, the Brian Lawton connection, etc. and he even included text message quotes from Rolston, lol.

I am SO not looking forward to seeing Rolston and that shot of his in our division. The Lightning's power play just got tons better. However, they still have just Dan Boyle and his 35 minutes a night on D.

59- it's not Melrose- it's the Brian Lawton connection. Kinda scary, but it's true. Lawton had all the connections back when he was an agent- and the Minnesota born factor probably came into play with Rolston and I think he was Rolston's agent before he left Octagon.

nccanes

06-30-2008, 08:36 AM

Also last night, Edmonton acquired defenseman Visnovsky. Speculated that with this acquisition, Pitkanen is gone for a scoring forward. Pitkanen has been rumored to LA for Cammalerri (sp) and Carolina for Cole. Speculation that a trade of Pitkanen could go down today. Interesting to see where. Although, both the LA and Carolina rumors came from Perez, so he'll probably end up in Buffalo or something.

Well, if LA pulls off getting Pitkanen for Cammalleri, then PROPS to them. :lol:

nccanes

06-30-2008, 08:38 AM

Ok - this is the annual, what time does the FA period begin question? Is it midnight tonight? (Why can't I ever remember that?)

StormShaman

06-30-2008, 08:38 AM

Pitkanen has been rumored to LA for Cammalerri (sp) and Carolina for Cole. Speculation that a trade of Pitkanen could go down today. Interesting to see where. Although, both the LA and Carolina rumors came from Perez, so he'll probably end up in Buffalo or something.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Further proof that Perez Eklund is a clownshoe: Camalleri hasn't been a King since the Draft!

SoCalcaniac

06-30-2008, 09:07 AM

Ok - this is the annual, what time does the FA period begin question? Is it midnight tonight? (Why can't I ever remember that?)

:lol: I do seem to recall you asking last year, lol. It's' NOON EST/9am Pacifc, tommorow 7/1.

And LMAO if Perez said Camalleri for Pitkanen. HeL-Lo??? We know the west coast is far and all, and we "never get to see anybody from the west" but at least keep up, lol.

nccanes

06-30-2008, 09:21 AM

Thanks SoCal. I actually found a link in my bookmarks to TSN's UFA signings page from last year. The first post was 1:47pm, so I guess we've got some time to go, lol. BTW, I counted the posts and there were 24 signings on July 1 (including our blockbuster Jeff Hamilton signing at 5:59pm! lol).

KaniacFever

06-30-2008, 09:28 AM

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Further proof that Perez Eklund is a clownshoe: Camalleri hasn't been a King since the Draft!

He is a clownshoe, but that rumor was before the draft.

And speaking of the clown, here's his latest:

A great source has told me that Edmonton may be moving Pitkanen shortly to a Canadian Team..stay tuned for that

Another source in Carolina has informed me that the Hurricanes may be in on the Pitkanen for Cole +, but it may not go down until after July 1 if that's the case

Now he's claiming to actually have a source in Carolina :lol:

Its a shame the other bloggers over there are actually decent, they should all come together and start their own web page.

StormShaman

06-30-2008, 11:17 AM

He has no source in Carolina, unless he's talking about his pet 'Canes blogger. Eklund made that rumour up out of whole cloth after overhearing half a phone conversation between two people that don't work for Edmonton OR Carolina.

nccanes

06-30-2008, 11:20 AM

Eklund made that rumour up out of whole cloth after overhearing half a phone conversation between two people that don't work for Edmonton OR Carolina.

Too much credit. He's just retreading the same rumors we've heard since last summer imo.

I did enjoy him actually thinking he was the first person to ever utter the words "free agent frenzy".

OswegoExpress

06-30-2008, 11:28 AM

We can't get Liles now....
June 29, 2008 | 10:00pm ET
Avs re-sign Liles, Foote
TheFourthPeriod.com
According to TSN, the Colorado Avalanche has re-signed unrestricted free agent defensemen John-Michael Liles and Adam Foote.
Liles has agreed to terms on a four-year contract worth just over $4 million per season, while Foote received a two-year, $6 million deal.

Liles, 28, registered six goals and 26 assists for 32 points in 81 games with the Avalanche last season.

In 313 career games, Liles has accumulated 44 goals and 115 assists.

Foote, 36, was re-acquired by the Avalanche at the trade deadline from the Columbus Blue Jackets. He scored one goals and added 15 assists for 16 points with both teams last season.
In 998 career games, Foote has accumulated 65 goals and 219 assists.

StormShaman

06-30-2008, 11:33 AM

Too much credit. He's just retreading the same rumors we've heard since last summer imo.

A rumour that he started after overhearing a conversation during the 06 SCF.

Just sayin'.

nccanes

06-30-2008, 12:23 PM

Auld or Kolzig to Tampa (e4)

If Tampa gets Kolzig, I'll be annoyed. (no offense Leighton) And I'd be REALLY curious about what they pay him.

caneshockeychick

06-30-2008, 12:28 PM

I won't be annoyed...I'll be livid :mad: (about Kolzig that is. Auld I don't care)

corylav

06-30-2008, 06:58 PM

I was kind of hoping we could maybe swing a deal to get Ramholt from Calgary as a possible sleeper top-six defenseman ... but Philly got him. :(

car3hur

07-01-2008, 07:19 AM

We can't get Liles now....

Saw that scroll across the bottom line on ESPN last night....GRRRRRRRR. >:|

caveman

07-01-2008, 07:55 AM

scratch another name off the rumor mill, Lilja re-signs with Detroit, 2-year deal.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3468500

puck_it

07-01-2008, 08:01 AM

car3hur

07-01-2008, 08:05 AM

scratch another name off the rumor mill, Lilja re-signs with Detroit, 2-year deal.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3468500

Roszival I think COULD happen...and weren't we talking trade with Vancouver about Bieksa?

Also heard Dan Boyle from Tampa may go as well via trade...too bad it's considered passé to trade within your own division. :(

caveman

07-01-2008, 08:29 AM

for dan boyle, 4 words: not worth his salary. and 3 more: not going anywhere.

KaniacFever

07-01-2008, 09:17 AM

Caps sign Mike Green

TIME (ET) TRANSACTION
8:45AM Washington re-signs defenceman Mike Green to a four-year deal worth $5.25-million a season.

Captain Slack

07-01-2008, 09:17 AM

And Green signs with wash:

The Washington Capitals have agreed to terms with restricted free agent defenceman Mike Greeen. Sources tell TSN it's a four year deal with an average annual salary of $5.25 million.

Wow, are they taking a risk there! 5.25 mil isn't chump change especially considering you have no guarantee that Green will repeat last season's performance.

svandijk1

07-01-2008, 09:29 AM

scratch another name off the rumor mill, Lilja re-signs with Detroit, 2-year deal.

Why would a guy signing rule out the possibility of that guy coming here? Sure it reduces the odds, probably even vastly, but sometimes a guy is signed in order to make him more tradable? And JR has even stated that he's way more likely to go the trade route in addressing the team's needs than go the free agent market route.

svandijk1

07-01-2008, 09:31 AM

And Green signs with wash:

Ok, in this case, I don't think Washington signed him in order to make him more tradable. ;)
Him you can definitely scratch off the list. :lol:

KaniacFever

07-01-2008, 09:43 AM

Devils re-sign Salvador:

10:21AM New Jersey re-signs defenceman Bryce Salvador to a four-year deal worth $11.6 million (average of $2.9 million per season).

caveman

07-01-2008, 09:50 AM

Why would a guy signing rule out the possibility of that guy coming here? Sure it reduces the odds, probably even vastly, but sometimes a guy is signed in order to make him more tradable? And JR has even stated that he's way more likely to go the trade route in addressing the team's needs than go the free agent market route.

sorry, scratch him off the free agent rumor mill, that's all.

corylav

07-01-2008, 10:35 AM

so maybe not on Pitkanen:

The Edmonton Oilers have created some financial flexibility by dealing hard-hitting left winger Raffi Torres to the Columbus Blue Jackets in exchange for 21-year-old centre Gilbert Brule.

Torres, 26, is a stocky winger who relishes the physical side of the game, but missed the last 49 games of the 2007-2008 season with a knee injury, leaving him with just 11 points in 32 games, the third straight season in which his point totals dipped after he hit a career-high 46 points in 67 games with the Oilers in 2004-2005.

Brule has managed 32 points in 146 career games with Columbus, getting a trip to the AHL this season (where he scored 10 points in 16 regular season games and five points in 13 playoff games) in an effort to find the scoring touch that he had displayed in junior, when he was drafted sixth overall by the blue Jackets in 2005.

Torres has two years and $5.15-million remaining on his current contract, while Brule will earn $765,000 next season before he's a restricted free agent.

atlflames

07-01-2008, 10:37 AM

Huet headed to free agency. I hope the Caps end up with Denis in goal...

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/07/01/huet_rolston/

SoCalcaniac

07-01-2008, 10:39 AM

Hmm- Columbus obviiously gave up on Brule. Funny how alot of those top 2004 draft pics (except for Ovie and Malkin of course) are already on other teams that didn't draft them- Ladd, Montoya, Brule........

Torres not in EDM will be very wierd.

nccanes

07-01-2008, 10:50 AM

For those of us not connected to XM

FA lists:http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=11074

FA tracker: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=11353

(just noticed that Kadams is on the UFA list for Chicago. Is that correct?)

KaniacFever

07-01-2008, 10:57 AM

Yeah, Kevyn Adams is a free agent in about 4 minutes. I'm surprised Chicago hasn't re-signed him yet. They seemed to talk very highly of him while he was there and even after suffering from that knee injury.

EDIT: Rumor of Cujo to Toronto as back up goalie. One year deal worth $700K

caneshockeychick

07-01-2008, 11:02 AM

It's 12:01 pm, 7/1/08. Do you know where your free agents are? :lol:

StormShaman

07-01-2008, 11:04 AM

Stuart stays with Detroit
Dupuis stays with Pittsburgh.

caveman

07-01-2008, 11:06 AM

per nhl live, all kinds of re-signs just before the deadline. pandolfo and clarkson for the devils (they decline their option on brylin), dupuis re-ups with pittsburgh.

caveman

07-01-2008, 11:06 AM

and some trades... rene borque to the flames for a future 2nd.

gilbert brule to the oilers?

corey perry re-signs with anaheim, all kinds of info trickling in.

caveman

07-01-2008, 11:08 AM

a radio report has cujo back to the leafs... the player going from the oilers to the blue jackets is raffi torres...

caveman

07-01-2008, 11:09 AM

WOW... nhl live reports cole for pitkanen is done...

caveman

07-01-2008, 12:01 PM

remember the 5th overall pick highschooler from our draft, Wheeler to Phoenix? Signed by the Bruins to an entry-level contract.

SoCalcaniac

07-01-2008, 12:12 PM

remember the 5th overall pick highschooler from our draft, Wheeler to Phoenix? Signed by the Bruins to an entry-level contract.

Yeah, didn't you hear? this happened a couple weeks ago- he rejected the offer from PHX for an ELC and became a UFA because he's a college aged player. The B's have had him in their crosshairs since it happened- flew him up to BOS and all.

Kinda shocking that he didn't wanna play for Wayne, but I guess that's the loophole in the CBA that allows the college guy to reject the contract offer and be free.

caneshockeychick

07-01-2008, 12:14 PM

Cujo back in TO

Finally....relief...TO gets on the board. :lol:

OswegoExpress

07-01-2008, 12:18 PM

Lightning signed Radim Vrbata 3 years, 9 million

KTinaY

07-01-2008, 12:26 PM

Kolzig to Tampa they are saying on NHL Live.

nccanes

07-01-2008, 01:33 PM

Ok - so Tampa's payroll continues to rise? How cheap can Kolzig be at this point?

corylav

07-01-2008, 01:44 PM

so which thread do we use .. this one or FA Frenzy ... b/c Vrbata and Kolzig are both over there.

nccanes

07-01-2008, 01:50 PM

Here.

Damn I HATE this Kolzig signing. HATE IT.

puck_it

07-01-2008, 01:50 PM

me too :(

SoCalcaniac

07-01-2008, 01:56 PM

Someone needs to change the title in the other thread to say "Canes Free Agent Frenzy" not just "free agent frenzy" - because people are likely posting there because we know today is the day; and it's simple. although we're not much of a player in the sweepstakes swirling around the league.

Real bummer about Kolzig- I'm sure he'll make the Caps pay when the Bolts play them, lol.

Meanwhile Huet is still not signed. LOL.

nccanes

07-01-2008, 01:56 PM

It forces me to pull AGAINST Olie.

WillLikeWhoa091

07-01-2008, 01:58 PM

TSN saying Theodore to Washington for 2 years.

Yeesh.

SoCalcaniac

07-01-2008, 01:59 PM

and HILARIOUSLY Jose Theodore has signed with the CAPTIALS! :lol:

Ladies, Jose is back in the east..... I can't stop laughing cause I knew this would happen when they uncermoniously dumped Olie. Just KNEW it.

corylav

07-01-2008, 01:59 PM

^ hooray! More goals for us.

Huet to .... Colorado? Ottawa? France?

corylav

07-01-2008, 02:01 PM

someone on HF saying 2 years, $9M for Theodore.

*shakes head*

caniac97

07-01-2008, 02:03 PM

someone on HF saying 2 years, $9M for Theodore.

*shakes head*

so much for the caps getting better, don't know what stopped them from signing Huet unless he said NO!

nccanes

07-01-2008, 02:06 PM

Jose did pretty well last year. I subscribe to the theory that no one can ever predict how goalies are going to do...with very few exceptions. I won't dis him pre-emptively....and I think Art would approve (on the jinx front). ;)

corylav

07-01-2008, 02:07 PM

Raycroft to Avs ... Huet to ??? Ottawa is all that's left, right???

CzechIt

07-01-2008, 02:07 PM

is anyone feeling a little shakey about us here?

I mean... except for the thashers... the southeast is getting whole lot better on paper.:crazy:

nccanes

07-01-2008, 02:10 PM

Caps didn't get better, did they? They didn't sign Fedorov yet and he was part of their final push to th div title. They haven't gotten worse, but better?

Florida got better and I missed it?

corylav

07-01-2008, 02:11 PM

is anyone feeling a little shakey about us here?

I mean... except for the thashers... the southeast is getting whole lot better on paper.:crazy:

Really? I think the SE has been a joke so far. ATL's done nothing ... TB's deals have been brutal and shortsighted, and Washington downgraded in net.

SoCalcaniac

07-01-2008, 02:11 PM

I'm not feeling shaky-I think we have a really good team. I'm not scared of any of the moves that have been made by the other SE teams. WSH didn't better, FLA is floundering- and TB? They're the Leafs-South.

You have to play the games.

corylav

07-01-2008, 02:13 PM

Ha ... and I forgot about Florida, so nothing big there. LOL.

KaniacFever

07-01-2008, 02:14 PM

I'm not feeling shaky. I think we have one of the best forwards group in the division along with Tampa (minus Vrabat...LOL). Atanta has done what? Florida, what have they done. And IMO, Washington got worse in goal.

I'm feeling good about our team right now. I'm ready for camp and the season.

Captain Slack

07-01-2008, 02:15 PM

Been a busy few minutes! Courtesy of the TSN Trade Tracker:

3:09PM Phoenix signs UFA forward Todd Fedoruk to a 3 year deal (undisclosed)
3:07PM Montreal re-signs RFA forward Andrei Kostitsyn to a 3 year deal worth $3.25-million a season
3:07PM Detroit signs UFA G Ty Conklin to a 1 year deal worth $750,000
3:07PM Montreal re-signs RFA forward Andrei Kostitsyn to a 3 year deal worth $3.25-million a season
3:03PM Colorado signs UFA G Andrew Raycroft to a 1 year deal (undisclosed)

CzechIt

07-01-2008, 02:16 PM

The achilles heel for the caps is a decent goaltender. They can do well without Federov but they cannot do anything without a legit #1 goalie. Look how much better they did with Huet in net than Kolzig. I am thinking Kolzig was just getting old and counldn't cut it anymore.

So when Huet was not signing... I was thinking the caps would be vunerable in goal again no matter how many times the O kid scored.

Well they have a decent goalie now... whether you like it or not, he is a young former Ven. trophy winner. They have sewn up goal.

So... essentially YES the caps did get better.

SoCalcaniac

07-01-2008, 02:16 PM

Todd Fedoruk? 3 years? didn't they sign Brian McGratton?

corylav

07-01-2008, 02:17 PM

I'm just glad Todd "Broken Face" Fedoruk didn't end up on our fourth line.

puck_it

07-01-2008, 02:19 PM

ekfart says Weight has an offer from isles and another team (e-janitor)

nccanes

07-01-2008, 02:27 PM

Well they have a decent goalie now... whether you like it or not, he is a young former Ven. trophy winner. They have sewn up goal.

So... essentially YES the caps did get better.

Jose had a good year last year. The 3 prior seasons were very average. Guess we'll see who shows up.

Is 32 still considered "young" in NHL terms? Not that I think it matters that he's 32. Jose doesn't put fear in me for whatever reason.

SoCalcaniac

07-01-2008, 02:31 PM

Agreed E, Jose had 3 hellacious years- and his contract year (last year) he broke back out. I'm still not sold on his run back in 2002, and he's not lived up to any of that- so for me- Jose is good- but not freak-goalie good.

Caniac

07-01-2008, 02:41 PM

And we have historically done well against him.

KaniacFever

07-01-2008, 02:44 PM

For me If I had to choose between Huet and Theodore, I'd take Huet in a heartbeat. Majority of the Cap fans think they paid Theordore too much.

Deke

07-01-2008, 02:47 PM

Per TSN - BREAKING NEWS: Cory Stillman agrees to terms with Florida on a three year deal for $10.6 million. Cristobal Huet has signed with Chicago. Details to follow.

caniac97

07-01-2008, 02:47 PM

For me If I had to choose between Huet and Theodore, I'd take Huet in a heartbeat. Majority of the Cap fans think they paid Theordore too much.

but when it comes to playing against, i would rather we play against TheOpenDoor than Huet anyday.

caneshockeychick

07-01-2008, 02:48 PM

^^Now, I'm really going to cry
:cry:

Scottysfistofdeath

07-01-2008, 02:48 PM

Per TSN - BREAKING NEWS: Cory Stillman agrees to terms with Florida on a three year deal for $10.6 million. Cristobal Huet has signed with Chicago. Details to follow.

just saw Stiller to Florida.... kindof painful, but maybe he'll just keep doing nothing

guinevere

07-01-2008, 02:49 PM

Hope he does nothing with a vengeance. :(

Captain Slack

07-01-2008, 02:49 PM

Stillman is a Panther?!?! ARgh!!!!! :mad:

corylav

07-01-2008, 02:51 PM

Voros to NYR, Godard to PIT

corylav

07-01-2008, 02:53 PM

Good luck to Cory ... dunno who he plays with, b/c I think they're locked in with Weiss-Horton-Booth on the first line.

Captain Slack

07-01-2008, 02:54 PM

Per TSN, Huet to Chicago. No terms disclosed.

KaniacFever

07-01-2008, 02:58 PM

Stillman is a Panther?!?! ARgh!!!!! :mad:

Why ol Why.

I like Stillman now he plays for those whiny cats. Well maybe with Jokinen gone they won't be so bad. Nope, I still hate the cats.

Good luck Stiller, but I won't be cheering for ya.

Caniac

07-01-2008, 02:58 PM

As long as they've still got Jacques Martin in their org, the crying will continue.

puck_it

07-01-2008, 02:59 PM

stillman doesnt sign anything :(

caveman

07-01-2008, 03:00 PM

Good luck to Cory ... dunno who he plays with, b/c I think they're locked in with Weiss-Horton-Booth on the first line.

olesz and dvorak? (zednik a LW... maybe they move either him or cory off-wing?)

Captain Slack

07-01-2008, 03:01 PM

Captain Slack

07-01-2008, 03:05 PM

Per TSN, Darcy Tucker to the Avs. Two year deal worth 4.5 mil.

corylav

07-01-2008, 03:07 PM

olesz and dvorak? (zednik a LW... maybe they move either him or cory off-wing?)

but who's the center? Maybe Mattias will be penciled into the top 6??

Captain Slack

07-01-2008, 03:16 PM

Per TSN

4:14PM Tampa Bay signs UFA goaltender Oleg Kolzig to a 1 year deal worth $1.5-million (plus bonuses).

KaniacFever

07-01-2008, 03:16 PM

So I found these post on HF funny, about Stillman signing in Florida:

I guess Cory has enough Stanley Cups?

There goes his chance at another Cup.

Hopefully Stillman likes golf tournaments

:lol: :lol:

puck_it

07-01-2008, 03:20 PM

The first offer sheet has been given... by the Canucks off all people!

3:49pm Vancouver signs RFA forward David Backes to an offer sheet, 3 years $7.5-million. St. Louis has seven days to match or accept a 2nd round draft pick as compensation.

I know nothing about Backes. Anyone have any info?

Well, I'm not entirely sure he's worth 2.5m/yr, but with the contracts floating around, I'm not sure what anyone is worth at this point. I'd say he's more of a 1.75m guy. At this point, anyway. In 3 years he might be worth beyond that. I've gotten the impression he's a good guy to have on your third line. Probably would say what we expected out of Cullen when he first came in. Solid play but nothing spectacular, but he could easily evolve into a Williams-like guy. That and he's pretty big. Defenseman big.

KaniacFever

07-01-2008, 03:27 PM

Offers for Brian Campbell are now over $70Million. I mean seriously. Am I the only one that doesn't think he is worth anywhere near that.

VandyCane

07-01-2008, 03:35 PM

No you are not 59. Even my Buffalo in-laws had issues with him when he played for them.

ontheboards

07-01-2008, 03:36 PM

Stillman's signing reminds me of the discussion on XM today-- having "retired" players sign to "play" in Florida because of the golf and weather :D Stillman was looking for a payday after arbitration bust with Tampa and the pay cut he took in Carolina-- looks like he got it... I appreciate what he did with Carolina and recognize that he's the kind of guy that makes his linemates better, but this signing has a why feeling of "settling."

Caniac

07-01-2008, 03:49 PM

Especially after all that talk about him wanting to stay close to home. So much for that...

PennsylvaniaCanesFan

07-01-2008, 03:50 PM

Wasn't Stillman linked to the Lightning this year as well? Must be something about Fla. he likes. I think he will help them a bit. They are far from a contending team with Olli gone. Hate to say it, but he was the heart and soul of that team.

corylav

07-01-2008, 03:53 PM

No you are not 59. Even my Buffalo in-laws had issues with him when he played for them.

that's just all of Buffalo ... they're never truly happy with anyone. My mother-in-law lives there still.

Anyone think of one Buffalo athlete was ever beloved? Even Flutie had the Rob Johnson/Doug Flutie split among the fans.

corylav

07-01-2008, 03:53 PM

Auld to Ottawa

puck_it

07-01-2008, 03:54 PM

that's just all of Buffalo ... they're never truly happy with anyone. My mother-in-law lives there still.

Anyone think of one Buffalo athlete was ever beloved? Even Flutie had the Rob Johnson/Doug Flutie split among the fans.

Norwood.

But he was loved by NY Giants fans.

nccanes

07-01-2008, 03:57 PM

FWIW, I don't recall Cory himself saying much about anything, other than he was looking forward to playing in OTT and that it was possible that they wouldn't "let him" get to July 1 as a UFA.

Cory's strength (and Cole talked about this on XM today) extends beyond the ice and he brings something they need in FLA.

I think he was probably looking for a contract to take him to close to retirement and the pay is certainly fair for his current value and I'm sure they are happy to be making it after 3 years of underpay.

caveman

07-01-2008, 04:13 PM

but who's the center? Maybe Mattias will be penciled into the top 6??

ugh, for some reason nhlnumbers had olesz as a center and i didn't reality-check it. isn't brett mclean their next-highest paid center then? or maybe they are looking to FA still for somebody else.

SoCalcaniac

07-01-2008, 04:53 PM

How on earth? Brian Campbell to CHI - 8yrs $56Million. Unbelieveable. He might be worth half of that.

Good luck to Stiller- I think he could be the new Captain of the Panthers. They need to replace goofy I mean Jokinen, and all those very young players- they need a leader like Stillman.

So Larry Kelly has just collected his hefty cut on the Brian Campbell deal, now get on the horn with JR and get Joni signed. :lol:

nccanes

07-01-2008, 04:54 PM

CL and I are going out for an evening (of soccer!) so y'all text with important signings! :lol:

caveman

07-01-2008, 04:58 PM

yay: campbell stays in the west. though he and staal did play ok together in the all star game. ah well.

caveman

07-01-2008, 04:58 PM

CL and I are going out for an evening (of soccer!) so y'all text with important signings! :lol:

railhawks vs. kansas city?

KaniacFever

07-01-2008, 05:00 PM

Just saw the Campbell signing. They way overpaid for him. No way in hell would I give him that much. I'm not sure what these GMs are seeing in him that I'm not.

JR said Kelly was busy with Campbell, now that's over, I want to come back from dinner with a Pitkanen signing.

I caugh George Richards from the Miami Hearald on XM. He was talking about the Stillman signing and said he could be the next captain. Since he mentioned it, I could see that. He also said that Florida is likely hoping that a team throws Jbo an offer sheet as that will be the only way Florida gets him locked up long term, but he thinks Jbo knows that so he won't sign any. He's pretty sure Jbo wants out of Florida and will only sign a one year deal.

nccanes

07-01-2008, 05:04 PM

railhawks vs. kansas city?

yup!

So Jeff Finger got 3 years at 3.5 each? Isn't the the guy that was in Lowell just a few seasons ago?

Don't know anything about him, but that seems like a real high number, lol.

TO - always there when you need them. :lol:

SoCalcaniac

07-01-2008, 05:06 PM

Commodore is to CLB for 5 years 18Million. Good Luck to Mike.

On Finger- yeah E, he was in Lowell. He's not even had 2 full years in the league. So Finger if you look at it is worth Tim Gleason money?

The funny of the day- James Duthie: a friend here in Toronto says "there's Toronto, giving the fans the Finger" LMAO.

caveman

07-01-2008, 05:06 PM

i figured the finger number was a misquote, and that was total for the 3 years.

commie signs with the blue jackets, 5 years, 18.75 mil.

nccanes

07-01-2008, 05:08 PM

Wow - money for Mike.

nccanes

07-01-2008, 05:09 PM

i figured the finger number was a misquote, and that was total for the 3 years.

apparently not

From the Canadian Press:

Journeyman defenceman Jeff Finger was in the ECHL the last time the Toronto Maple Leafs made the playoffs.

After signing him to a US$14-million, four-year deal on Tuesday, the Maple Leafs team are hoping that Finger can help get them back to the post-season.

Finger spent parts of the past two seasons with the Colorado Avalanche. He earned the league-minimum salary of $475,000 last season.

He has 24 points (9-15) and a plus-22 rating in 94 career NHL games.

The 28-year-old American was an eighth-round draft pick by Colorado in 1999 and spent parts of four seasons in the American Hockey League before making the jump to the NHL.

He joins a Maple Leafs team that is being rebuilt after failing to make a playoff appearance since 2004.

KaniacFever

07-01-2008, 05:09 PM

Good Luck Commie :)

SoCalcaniac

07-01-2008, 05:13 PM

Finger spent parts of the past two seasons with the Colorado Avalanche. He earned the league-minimum salary of $475,000 last season.

I almost posted the first time that I thought that Finger made the league minimum- and there it is- confirmed. Good freakin' grief. it's a disease with the Leafs. Finger, If I recall right, was a 6th d-man most of his time there- of course injuries took over last year in COL so he got more time out there- but Jeff Finger is gonna get TO "back to the postseason"??? :crazy: Seriously? What is the Silver Fox smoking please?

SoCalcaniac

07-01-2008, 05:15 PM

Brian Rolston sweepstakes is over- back to his original org, the Devils- 4 year @ 20Million. That deal makes sense. Rolston is a 30 goal scorer three years straight. That's the right deal. I think Tampa would only offer 3 yrs so they lost out.

KaniacFever

07-01-2008, 05:17 PM

Flyers sign Ossi Vaananen, 1 year $1M

As for the Rolston signing, a deal that actually makes sense and itsn't an overpayment. wow can't believe those deals are still out there.

SoCalcaniac

07-01-2008, 05:20 PM

So Hossa and Redden are still out there...............

SouthernHockeyChick

07-01-2008, 05:43 PM

And we have historically done well against him.

Correction, Erik Cole...the Oiler....has historically done well against Theodore.

How on earth? Brian Campbell to CHI - 8yrs $56Million.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: I just cannot laugh hard enough!!

commie signs with the blue jackets, 5 years, 18.75 mil.
:eek2:

Brian Rolston sweepstakes is over- back to his original org, the Devils-

NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

c-girl

07-01-2008, 05:47 PM

Commodore is to CLB for 5 years 18Million. Good Luck to Mike.

Whoa. Never saw that kind of money coming. Good for him.

KaniacFever

07-01-2008, 05:49 PM

Hordichuk signed with Vancouver, 2 years.

SoCalcaniac

07-01-2008, 06:12 PM

Patrick Lalime is a now a Slug- I know we have Lalime fans here, so that must hurt.

TSN's Free Agent Frenzy show started at 7pm says that Hossa won't be making a decision today on any of the offers out there for him.

So here is the crazy question- I heard on the first FAF show, that the Lightning were "shopping" Mike Smith(???WTF?) and I guess that's cause they have Kolzig now? :crazy:

Conklin goes to DET. and the Hawks have Huet & Khabibulin? That $12Million in goalie money. What the hell? and aren't they over the cap too?

hyena

07-01-2008, 06:14 PM

Patrick Lalime is a now a Slug- I know we have Lalime fans here, so that must hurt.

Yep this day keeps getting better and better :cry:

SoCalcaniac

07-01-2008, 06:37 PM

Per TSN's FAF Broadcast- Wade Redden to the NYR- 6 years 6.9 million per.........

Sorry Hyena- on Lalime.

PennsylvaniaCanesFan

07-01-2008, 07:07 PM

^ Wow...6 years at almost 7 mill? That's insanity.

No word on Sundin yet? At least I didn't see a signing. Interesting to see where he ends up. My bet is back with the Leafs.

LeslieK

07-01-2008, 07:30 PM

per TSN
8:06PM New York Islanders sign defenceman Mark Streit to a five-year contract worth $20.5 million

SoCalcaniac

07-01-2008, 07:37 PM

No word on Sundin yet? At least I didn't see a signing. Interesting to see where he ends up. My bet is back with the Leafs.

Sundin won't be deciding anytime soon- his agent JP Barry was on the FAF Show on TSN and said he was"eating sushi and reviewing the offers back in Stockholm" but he was going to be cautious- and remember, Sundin hasn't even said he's coming back to play hockey - my guess is he will- but still.

and I highly doubt he's going back to Canada's Team. I can see Sundin in DET or even in VAN lots of Swedes to between the two teams, and I can really see Sundin riding off into the sunset with another team after the mess he endured in TO. (at least that's my hope for the classy Sundin, lol)

In other news- Streit to the Isles- ya'll do know he was only paid $600K last season right? Amazing. Although he leaves a far better team in MTL than the Islander are!

livinthedream

07-01-2008, 08:30 PM

Brian Rolston sweepstakes is over- back to his original org, the Devils- 4 year @ 20Million.

Bobby Holik also headed back to the Devils for one year at $2.5m. Will hate seeing his mug fewer times next season.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=242195&lid=sublink02&lpos=headlines_main

livinthedream

07-01-2008, 09:24 PM

Michael Ryder to Boston 3 years x $4m:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=242206

nccanes

07-01-2008, 10:10 PM

and I highly doubt he's going back to Canada's Team.

Are you saying that the Passion does not Unite Us All?

Whoa - Redden got paid. Honestly it's hard for me to judge some of these deals because basically they are ALL ridiculous, but they got to hating him in OTT and he got a raise, right? Fun stuff.

Mona2006

07-02-2008, 07:08 AM

Patrick Lalime is a now a Slug-

:sick::hurl: How will they remove all the decency from him? I am sure Lindy has his ways! :sick:

SoCalcaniac

07-02-2008, 07:30 AM

Are you saying that the Passion does not Unite Us All?

:laugh::lol: :laugh:Girl, I needed a laugh to start the day- and that just did it for me. People think I laugh at the goofiest things- but that has me tearing up and laughing at the same time.

The Leafs ability to "unite" does one thing for sure- they make you realize that no matter how bad something is for your own team- It's hella worse in Leaf Land. LMAO. **off to go read my favorite Toronto columnist's take on yesterday**

So can someone tell me how Michael Ryder got $4million per after the horrid last two years in MTL? Does Chiarrelli know something we don't?

LeslieK

07-02-2008, 09:15 AM

I put this in the Hordichuck thread but thought I'd post it here as well.

Luke's updated his blog again - http://blogs.newsobserver.com/canes/final-chapter-hordichuk
]"I want to play in the west because there are a lot more tough guys and that's my job every night," he said. "I'm so excited. I look back at my career and some of my best games have come in front of Canadian fans because that's my style. I like to run around and hit guys and anybody who's willing to drop the gloves. I'm the kind of guy who won't back down. I know my role and any chance I get to fight Georges Laraque and some of the bigger guys out there, I like to test myself against those guys."

puck_it

07-02-2008, 10:02 AM

damn. not bad for a slow ass defenseman. Campbell 56.8m/8yrs

The most sought-after defenceman this summer has been snapped up, as free agent Brian Campbell (http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=1206) has agreed to an eight-year contract with the Chicago Blackhawks worth $7.1 million a season.
"I'm pretty elated," Chicago general manager Dale Tallon said. "It's been a long struggle the past few years. This day was always a tough day for us. We worked hard, and to come home empty-handed wasn't a very good feeling."
Campbell, 29, was among the league leaders in blueline scoring in 2007-08 with 62 points (eight goals, 54 assists) in 83 games with the Buffalo Sabres and San Jose Sharks. The Sharks acquired Campbell in a trade deadline deal for Steve Bernier (http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=2837) and a first-round pick in the 2008 draft.
The Strathroy, Ontario, native was a sixth-round selection in the 1997 entry draft by the Buffalo Sabres. In 411 games, Campbell has 35 goals and 195 points through nine seasons with Buffalo and San Jose.

PennsylvaniaCanesFan

07-02-2008, 11:40 AM

From TSN:

Hossa to the Wings for 1yr $7.4 mil.

corylav

07-02-2008, 11:49 AM

:crazy:

Canesluver

07-02-2008, 11:51 AM

Yay!!! He's not in our conference!! :nanner:

Mona2006

07-02-2008, 11:52 AM

From TSN:

Hossa to the Wings for 1yr $7.4 mil.

Tell me again why we had NO hockey in the 2004-05 season??

Like the Wings really need Hossa. :crazy:

PennsylvaniaCanesFan

07-02-2008, 12:00 PM

^ How are they finding the cap space?

Oh yeah, the cap keeps going up.

Guyute

07-02-2008, 12:00 PM

These contracts are mind-numbingly stunning. I'm honestly shocked. I shouldn't be, I know... but I am. Wasted an entire season (only sport to ever do so), for absolutely nothing.

Congrats Bettman, Owners, Players. Good job.

puck_it

07-02-2008, 12:08 PM

yep

e2ipiand1

07-02-2008, 12:29 PM

I know how everyone loves to hate on Bettman, but it's really the Fed's fault. If the dollar wasn't on par with the loony, the salary cap wouldn't be so high.

corylav

07-02-2008, 12:33 PM

I know how everyone loves to hate on Bettman, but it's really the Fed's fault. If the dollar wasn't on par with the loony, the salary cap wouldn't be so high.

Where are ye, Alan Greenspan....

puck_it

07-02-2008, 12:42 PM

clearly, the NHL is rigging the american economy so that the Penguins can afford Sidney Crosby's linemates.

puck_it

07-02-2008, 12:48 PM

Dallas Stars sign UFA Forward Sean Avery to a four-year, $15.5 million contract.

hully signed his former housemate from detroit

caveman

07-02-2008, 12:48 PM

Yay!!! He's not in our conference!! :nanner:

ditto for avery: "Dallas Stars sign UFA Forward Sean Avery to a four-year, $15.5 million contract." now, can we just get orpik shipped west...

caneshockeychick

07-02-2008, 12:48 PM

^^^Hey, at least now we know who all those speculators are ;)

:lol:

Mona2006

07-02-2008, 12:51 PM

However will Avery do without the bright lights of Broadway? :hurl:

Not sure if this was posted...sorry if I missed it and am re-posting.

Just days after the Maple Leafs bought out the final two years of his contract, Darcy Tucker was scooped up by the Colorado Avalanche

RangersCanesFan

07-02-2008, 01:14 PM

Dallas Stars sign UFA Forward Sean Avery to a four-year, $15.5 million contract.

hully signed his former housemate from detroit

Glen Sather is a f-----g idiot.

I don't understand how Sather didn't see Avery's value to the Rangers. 30 games over .500 when Avery was in the line-up. You can't replace that.

KaniacFever

07-02-2008, 01:21 PM

I read over on HF that there may be a limited NMC in the Avery contract. That's just nuts.

puck_it

07-02-2008, 01:22 PM

thats what TSN says, too.

hyena

07-02-2008, 01:22 PM

Dallas Stars sign UFA Forward Sean Avery to a four-year, $15.5 million contract.

well, bad things happen in 3's, right? this was the third bomb for me. i hate it when *******s play for teams i like

SoCalcaniac

07-02-2008, 01:24 PM

RangersCanesFan

07-02-2008, 01:29 PM

Thank GOD Avery has gone out west.

The Hossa thing- well like the header on TSN said- if you can't beat em...... that's my only guess as to why he turned down PIT's 7 years at $7 million per. :crazy:

This salary inflation thing has me just ill. We truly have no real idea who is worth what. We know what people are willing to pay, but it's all false belief. Jeff Finger? Cristobal Huet? Ryan Malone? do I have to go on? so the solution now is to just throw the crazy-ass $$ to guys, so they'll sign? I'm so baffled. but mostly annoyed.

Just wait until the CBA expires after 2011...I also think they can revisit it at the end of '09.

Unless the whole damn economy crashes and burns before then.

Right now, there's no way American teams can make money. There's no way revenue increases this year. This house of cards is about to collapse.