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Lady J
08-05-2003, 11:55 PM
Well, okay, maybe not ATTACKS, but it DOES get closer. ;) I think this sort of stuff is so interesting.



Mars Ready for Close-Up, Best View in 60,000 Years
Tue Aug 5, 2:13 PM ET Add Science - Reuters to My Yahoo!


By Deborah Zabarenko

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Mars is getting ready for its close-up, with the red planet coming as near to Earth this month as it has in almost 60,000 years.

Its closest pass will come on Aug. 27 at 5:51 a.m. EDT, when Mars will be less than 34.65 million miles away.


The last time it came nearer was around Sept. 12 in 57,617 B.C. when Mars came about 25,000 miles closer, at a distance of 34.62 million miles from Earth.


"If Neanderthals had telescopes, they would have seen it a little bit better than we will on August 27," said astronomer Geoff Chester of the U.S. Naval Observatory in Washington.


To backyard observers, Mars will be the brightest natural object in the sky except for the sun and the moon, Chester said in a telephone interview. Even though it will be close, it will not look much bigger than it usually does.


"People are kind of all thinking that all you've got to do is go outside and you're going to see this big red blob that's half the size of the moon," Chester said. "That's not the case."


What people will most likely see is a brilliant pinkish object dominating the southern sky. At that point, Mars will be the brightest thing in the heavens. Venus would have shone bright if it had been visible, but it will be hidden behind the sun when Mars comes closest to Earth.


Mars will appear to be about the same size as a middling-sized crater on the moon, Chester said.


To get an idea of how big Mars will seem at its closest, the typical thumb held at arms' length covers about one degree of the sky, or 3,600 arc seconds. The moon is about half a degree of the sky, or 1,800 arc seconds. Mars at its closest will appear to be 25.11 arc seconds -- only about one more arc second than its usual 24.


Mars will get even closer to Earth on Aug. 28, 2287 -- but still not as close as it did in the Neanderthals' time.


"It is a marvelous opportunity to get people interested in astronomy and what you can see from your own backyard," said Stephen Maran, an astronomer and spokesman for the American Astronomical Society. "We hope that more and more people will get used to looking at the sky so they will be interested in efforts to cut down on light pollution."


As Earth's next-door planetary neighbor, Mars has always been a subject of fascination. Recent NASA (news - web sites) probes have sent back images suggesting water once flowed on or near the martian surface -- an exciting prospect for those curious about whether Earth-type life ever existed on Mars, since water is seen as a prerequisite for life on other planets.


On Monday, NASA selected the low-cost Phoenix probe as the first so-called Scout mission to Mars. Phoenix is expected to land on Mars in late 2008, in terrain suspected of harboring large quantities of ice within 1 foot (0.348 meter) of the surface, and then will analyze subsurface material, NASA said in a statement.

Stormbringer
08-06-2003, 12:00 AM
What else can I say but (not really) far out, man...this space/cosmic nut appreciates this. Thanks Lady. :cool:

Jeff O Rocks
08-06-2003, 07:01 AM
Space, planets and aliens intrigue me....we live in the country and you can see everything in the sky...I am always looking for something flying around up there...if I saw something, I would probably run.. :D

When there are meteor showers, it is so cool..

Do you guys believe there is life on other planets?

Guyute
08-06-2003, 07:50 AM
Do you guys believe there is life on other planets?

to put my views simply I'll say two things:
1. The universe is so unfathomably large, there's no way we're the only race.
2. Sorry, but there's no way Humans are the smartest race in existence.

jmo.

Shell
08-06-2003, 08:07 AM
When there are meteor showers, it is so cool..

Do you guys believe there is life on other planets?

Yep, agree with what guyute said. In reference to showers.. time for the best one of the year as well. Unfortunately it is at the same time as the full moon.

Make the most of the meteor show
To see the Perseids at their best, avoid the glare of the moon
By Joe Rao
SPACE.COM

Aug. 1 — August is usually regarded as “meteor month” in the Northern Hemisphere, as one of the best shooting star displays of the year reaches its peak near midmonth. The annual Perseid meteor shower is beloved by everyone from meteor enthusiasts to summer campers.

THE PERSEIDS are predicted to peak overnight on Aug. 12-13, when Earth travels through the middle of a belt of debris laid down in space by comet Swift-Tuttle.

But a major obstacle, the moon, will work against attempts to spot the fiery space dust this year. The moon will turn full on Aug. 12, severely hampering observations at just the wrong time. Bright moonlight will flood the sky all through that entire night.

All is not lost, however: Windows of potentially rewarding opportunity will come on the weekend prior to the expected peak of activity.

Scattered Perseids have been arriving since about July 17. A noticeable upswing in activity is expected to begin during the second week of August, leading up to their peak night. Perseids are typically fast, bright and occasionally leave persistent trains.

And every once in a while, a Perseid fireball will blaze forth, bright enough to be quite spectacular and more than capable to attract attention even in bright moonlight.

Perhaps the best times to look this year will be during the predawn hours several mornings before the night of full moon. That’s when the constellation Perseus (from which the meteors get their name because they appear to emanate from there) will stand high in the northeast sky.

In fact, three “windows” of dark skies will be available between moonset and the first light of dawn on the mornings of Aug. 8, 9 and 10 (conveniently on the weekend). Generally speaking, there will be about 2½ hours of completely dark skies available on the morning of the 8th. This shrinks to about 1½ hours on the 9th, and to less than a half-hour by the morning of the 10th. (Check Space.com’s timetable.)

Perhaps up to a dozen or so forerunners of the main Perseid display might appear to steak by within an hour’s watch on these mornings. Other shooting stars not associated with the Perseids could be visible, too.

In the absence of moonlight a single observer might see up to 100 meteors per hour on the peak night, a number that sadly cannot be hoped for in 2003. In fact, it appears that this year, Perseid fans will be uttering the same lament that the old Dodger fans in Brooklyn used to: “Wait till next year!”

Joe Rao serves as an instructor and guest lecturer at New York’s Hayden Planetarium. He writes about astronomy for The New York Times and other publications, and he is also an on-camera meteorologist for News 12 Westchester, New York.
© 2003 Space.com. All rights reserved.

Turbulence
08-06-2003, 08:26 AM
That's pretty cool....I'll have to drag the ol' telescope out of the attic and take a look!
And of course we aren't the smartest race in the universe...I imagine that there are folks similar to us on a planet similar to the earth somewhere...but who knows? There's also been talk of plant life on Neptune, but I guess there's no way we'll ever know.

Jeff O Rocks
08-06-2003, 08:31 AM
1. The universe is so unfathomably large, there's no way we're the only race.


My thoughts exactly....out of the entire universe, we would be foolish to think we were the only planet with life.. makes me very curious..

Jillsdad
08-06-2003, 10:31 AM
Of course we are not the only planet with life on it. We have people from another planet living amongst us right now. How else do you explain Tie Domi and Darcy Tucker.

Stormbringer
08-06-2003, 10:39 AM
Of course we are not the only planet with life on it. We have people from another planet living amongst us right now. How else do you explain Tie Domi and Darcy Tucker.

http://burns.thefinaldimension.org/otn/realhappy/xxrotflmao.gif

Not to mention Brendan Shanahan, Barry Melrose, and Kerry Frasier (Try telling me that hair is not alienesque. :crazy:)...where are the Men In Black when we need them? :D ;)

Alicia
08-06-2003, 01:15 PM
1. The universe is so unfathomably large, there's no way we're the only race.


My thoughts exactly....out of the entire universe, we would be foolish to think we were the only planet with life.. makes me very curious..

Agreed! ;)

Lady J
08-07-2003, 11:18 PM
:eek2:


Hubble Spies Big Galaxy Gobbling Little One
Thu Aug 7, 2:07 PM ET Add Science - Reuters to My Yahoo!


By Deborah Zabarenko

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A big galaxy is gobbling a tiny one, just as astronomers have long suspected, and for the first time there is photographic evidence of this kind of galactic cannibalism, snapped by the Hubble Space Telescope (news - web sites).

The orbiting telescope captured the image of the gorging galaxy as part of a much larger picture of a long-tailed galaxy that has become known as the Tadpole. This photo was one of the first to be released last year after a new advanced camera was installed aboard Hubble.

The Tadpole dominates the image, but the second-brightest object is a massive spiral galaxy seen in the lower left corner, with an apparent companion nearby that is seemingly linked to the bigger galaxy.

U.S. and Australian astronomers were intrigued by this mismatched pair of cosmic objects, but the Hubble image alone was not enough to confirm that this was a case of a dominant galaxy feeding on a much smaller dwarf galaxy.

To do this, they used the Keck Telescope in Hawaii, which was able to show plumes of stars streaming away from the dwarf galaxy's heart toward the big galaxy, the astronomers said in a statement. The galactic pair is located about 2 billion light-years from Earth. A light-year is about 6 trillion miles, the distance light travels in a year.

Their findings were published on Thursday in Science Express.

The tiny galaxy is being ripped apart by the gravitational forces of the larger one, and the dwarf galaxy's stolen stars will wind up as part of a spherical halo surrounding the flattened disk of the larger spiral galaxy, the astronomers said.

REMNANT TRAILS OF STARS


The big galaxy will continue to transform its smaller companion for billions of years, said astronomer Duncan Forbes of Swinburne University in Hawthorn, Australia.

"After a few billion years, it may be completely disrupted, leaving only a remnant trail, or relic stream or ghost, behind in the halo of the spiral," Forbes said in answer to e-mailed questions about his research.

Astronomers who study how galaxies form and transform have reckoned that such interactions between galaxies would occur, but this is the first time that a Hubble image, enhanced by observations by the ground-based Keck telescope and with the help of computer simulation, has illustrated this phenomenon.

There could be more discoveries, since Forbes and his team plan to use Hubble's Advanced Camera for Surveys next year to look at nearby spiral galaxies and globular clusters of old stars.

"Our project is to study the globular clusters around spiral galaxies, but if there are any disrupted dwarfs present, we will see them," Forbes said by e-mail.

In fact, cosmic cannibalism is taking place in Earth's general neighborhood, Forbes said.

The Milky Way, which contains Earth, is currently interacting with both the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds, two nearby galaxies that are much larger than the dwarf Forbes and his colleagues studied.

Another galaxy, called the Sagittarius dwarf, was discovered in 1994, but that dwarf is almost totally disrupted, and astronomers only detected it by its remnant trail of stars, Forbes said.

More information can be found online at http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/galaxy/dwarf.html