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RIO
08-07-2003, 01:27 AM
For all of you computer savvy people out there, I just got hit with the Xupiter parasite and trying to get that thing off my computer has been a REAL ORDEAL. :mad: Anyone else get hit with this??!! I had to go to Enigma and follow complex directions to get Xupiter off my HD, and even then I'm not entirely sure I got it all. This thing can reinstall itself too, if not all of it has been removed. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Here's the link to Enigma:

http://www.uninstallxupiter.com/code.htm

hyena
08-07-2003, 06:10 AM
heh. "parasite" is a good word for it.

*sigh* i'm so glad i switched to Mozilla.

Shell
08-07-2003, 07:40 AM
ugh.. that most be SO annoying Rio!! Everyone should definitely have a firewall and anti-virus software!

Rio - Be VERY careful changing your registry. Make a copy first. Make sure the instructions you are following are from a reputable company! If you mess up your registry, you are FUBARed!

For those of you not familiar with Xupiter, here is what it is:

Who moved my homepage?
Anish Gangar | July 15, 2003 11:19 IST

Prevent your browser from being hijacked by unwanted ads

Your browser is behaving strangely. It crashes and closes all other programs. Soon advertisements begin to pop up on your desktop… These are signs of 'browser hijacking', a sneaky method to watch your online activity and drown you in ads.

Companies trying to make a quick buck at your expense have been releasing such browser hijacking programs, usually referred to as spyware and adware. These programs change your browser settings, dictate your surfing patterns and bombard you with advertisements.

Here's a guide that will help you avoid a browser hijack:

How browser hijacking works

It all begins with malicious software being installed on your machine without you being aware of it. Often, the rogue code gets on to a victim's machine in a 'drive-by download'. This is a download that happens while you are surfing and goes unnoticed.

Most often the unwanted software begins by changing your browser's default homepage to a page that the hijacker wants to direct traffic to. These programs can also add new shortcuts to your browser's 'Favourites' list.

From now on, the hijacking code keeps track of your surfing habits by noting the sites you visit. And without your knowledge, the program sends this information across the Internet to the server of the hijacking company that unleashed it.

The company then uses this data to swamp you with ads, links and pop-ups, all hawking products they have been paid to push.

An example of browser hijacking is the Xupiter toolbar. It works like this:

The Xupiter code installs itself as an extra toolbar on you browser
It changes your default homepage automatically
It adds gaming and adult links to your favourites menu
And to top it all, it causes frequent browser crashes
Although there are official uninstallers available for the Xupiter toolbar, they are ineffective. This is because Xupiter makes multiple entries for itself in your computer's registry in a bid to dodge attempts at uninstallation.

Another example of spyware is Gator; also known as GAIN (Gator Advertising and Information Network). It works along the same lines as Xupiter but doesn't cause as much damage and its removal instructions can be found here.

Stony Brook University has compiled a good list of problematic software.

How to prevent hijacking?

*Keep your anti-virus definitions updated. Install firewall and anti-spyware software on your system.
*Avoid opening email attachments from anonymous users.
*Avoid using file-sharing software.
*Don't download software that has no description of the company or the developer.
*Scan your system for viruses, weekly or fortnightly.
*Always send mail attachments after scanning the file.
*Always read the fine print before installing anything that is offered to you while surfing.
*Read the End User's License Agreement (EULA) carefully. They usually mention somewhere in fine print that your data will be shared with companies.
*Increase your browser's security settings by disabling ActiveX that is not signed or safe.
*Apply Windows security updates provided by Microsoft.
*A host of software that can detect spyware are also available.

Spyware Blaster: Once installed, it prohibits the installation of any spyware software and denies access to any malicious ActiveX code included in its list.

Browser Hijack Blaster: Protects your system from browser hijackers and spyware that alters your Internet Explorer settings.

Ad-aware: Awarded the best software product of 2002 by PC World Magazine, this application scans the system memory and registry to detect data-mining, advertising and malicious codes.

Jeff O Rocks
08-07-2003, 07:50 AM
Viruses are such a pain...I got something on my computer at home about a year ago, and it took me forever to get everything straigtened out. Talking on the phone for hours to a tech in India at 3 AM (our time), reloading everything, it was a nightmare. To this day, my MSN messenger rarely works!! :sad: People that create these things should be hanged from a tree by their toenails!! :mad:

Stormbringer
08-07-2003, 08:47 AM
Thankfully, I've never had to deal with Xupiter. But I've read a lot about what it does at a couple of video gaming boards I occasionally visit, and what it does doesn't sound pretty. Software that article doesn't mention that does work wonders in regards to getting rid of ads and crap like Xupiter is Norton. If you get the complete Norton package, it includes an ad blocker, (Which blocks ALL ads, including banners and Java crap, not just pop-ups.) and a Firewall that prevents attacks through backdoors and such.

Guyute
08-07-2003, 09:05 AM
Norton also tends to sit on 20%-70% of your CPU resources at any given time. Which is fine if you have a higher-end pc, but don't use it for much.

Try playing a graphics-intensive online game with the full Norton suite though, and you may be less than thrilled.

For a software Firewall, I use Zone Alarm. Very easy to use, and very thorough.

Also, if you're using a router, buy one that includes a hardware firewall. you can never have too much protection.

Shell
08-07-2003, 10:08 AM
isn't Zone Alarm basic free as well?

I know it notifies me several times again that Gator is trying to download something and do I want to let it. Duh, of course not! LOL

StormShaman
08-07-2003, 10:46 AM
heh. "parasite" is a good word for it.

*sigh* i'm so glad i switched to Mozilla.

I switched this morning. :)

Guyute
08-07-2003, 10:50 AM
yes, there is a free version of Zone Alarm. Not as robust as Pro, but it certainly does what you need it to do.

and fyi- Microsoft stuff (IE, Outlook, etc..) is THE most targetted software for viruses out there. Using Outlook as email, with the preview pane has become very dangerous. People have learned how to write scripts than don't need to be opened to run. They'll just run in the preview pane when the msg appears.
just stuff to keep in mind.

Jeff O Rocks
08-07-2003, 11:40 AM
Thanks guy .....not only do you AND Shell help me hockey wise, now I am more computer savvy thanks to you guys!! ;)

RIO
08-07-2003, 01:36 PM
where can i snag ZoneAlarm? :crazy:

Guyute
08-07-2003, 01:50 PM
www.zonelabs.com is the site.

direct link to free version is here:
http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/free/1001_cnet_zdnet/zaSetup_37_202.exe

RIO
08-07-2003, 05:19 PM
Thanks y'all ... one more question... I already run Mozilla... how do I get my computer to automatically start up with Mozilla instead of Internet Explorer?

RIO
08-07-2003, 06:17 PM
http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,57467,00.html


VERY interesting read.... :mad:


EDITED: I've discovered SpyBot Search and Destroy. I hope that helps clear things up. It located about half a million spyware parasites on my harddrive (Xupiter, HotBar, etc.) and then erased them. We'll see how it works out.

Guyute
08-08-2003, 08:36 AM
I don't know Mozilla, sorry Rio. there should be an option somewhere to either "ask to use as default browser?" or "make default browser".

In Internet Explorer... go to Tools-> Internet Options. Then click the Programs Tab.
at the very bottom will be a checkbox for "Internet Explorer should check to see whether it is default browser."

make sure that's checked. then, the next time you're prompted when IE opens. You can say NO to 'make this my default browser'... and if you want... check the box that will likely be there that asks if you want it to check with you each time.

Alicia
08-11-2003, 10:44 PM
Anyone know what virus causes your computer to continuously shut down and restart? I'm having that problem....

Stormbringer
08-11-2003, 11:42 PM
Anyone know what virus causes your computer to continuously shut down and restart? I'm having that problem....

Ah, I was just reading about that a few minutes ago...it's a very new worm that started making its presence known on the Net yesterday...

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.blaster.worm.html

And here's the patch to fix it...

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-026.asp

Shell
08-12-2003, 02:39 PM
That worm is huge Alicia :(
Though at least not nearly as devastating as the one poor Rio got

Computer Infection Snarls Global Networks
By MATT MOORE, AP Business Writer

STOCKHOLM, Sweden - An Internet-borne infection incapacitated tens of thousands of computers on Tuesday, snarling company networks and frustrating home users as it spread across the globe.

Security officials said the virus-like worm, dubbed "LovSan," was part of a coordinated electronic attack that exploited one of the most serious flaws yet discovered in Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating systems.

Maryland's Motor Vehicle Administration shut all its offices at noon as technicians cleaned the agency's network systems.

"There's no telephone service right now. There's no online service right now. There's no kiosk or express office service," spokeswoman Cheron Wicker said. "We are currently working on a fix and expect to be operational again in the morning."

The worm, which causes computers to mysteriously restart, was first reported in the United States on Monday and, while appearing not to delete files or otherwise incur permanent damage, knocked many computers offline. Non-Microsoft systems were not vulnerable.

Across Asia and Europe, it struck many businesses as they opened and workers logged on, spreading without the need for user intervention.

Graham Cluley, a senior technology consultant with Sophos PLC in Britain, said his company started getting reports about the infection from Australia and then in Europe.

In Sweden, Internet provider TeliaSonera said about 20,000 of its customers were affected after the infection clogged 40 servers that handled Internet traffic. Spokeswoman Lena Rosell said customers had their service restored by late morning.

Denmark initially reported limited problems, but "the tendency is rising and we're getting more reports of attacks," said Preben Andersen, head of Denmark's official virus watchdog agency, DK CERT. "There must be at least a couple of thousand PCs infected with this worm."

Among companies affected in Germany was automaker BMW, said spokesman Eckhard Vannieck. The problems did not affect production and the company expected it fixed by day's end.

Computers infected by LovSan were programmed to automatically launch an attack Saturday on windowsupdate.com, a Web site Microsoft uses to avail customers of software patches that can prevent such infections.

The infection was dubbed "LovSan" because of a love note left behind on vulnerable computers: "I just want to say LOVE YOU SAN!" Researchers also discovered another message hidden inside the infection that appeared to taunt Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates (news - web sites): "billy gates why do you make this possible? Stop making money and fix your software!"

Microsoft had posted a free patch on the Web site to protect Windows users after it warned on July 16 about the flaw. Nearly all versions of Windows are affected.

The high-profile alerts issued by Microsoft notwithstanding, many businesses did not initially install the patches and scrambled Tuesday to shore up their computers.

"People are too laid back. Microsoft doesn't do these warnings for fun," said Cluley. "I think a lot of people have gotten into the habit of thinking viruses only come in via e-mails."

Symantec Corp., F-Secure Corp. and other anti-virus companies have free tools for removing the worm. All users, whether their computers were infected or not, should also obtain Microsoft's fix by going to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com.%mark_on(%) They should also update any anti-virus or firewall products they have by visiting the vendors' Web sites.

S.C. Leung, spokesman for the Hong Kong Computer Emergency Response Team Coordination Center, said some home computers crashed, possibly a side effect of the infection, also dubbed "blaster."

Individual users and small businesses appeared to be at greater risk than bigger companies, which typically have firewalls that can stem such attacks. But once such a worm gets inside a firewall, unprotected computers are vulnerable.

South Korea (news - web sites)'s Information and Communication Ministry said that about 1,900 cases of the infection were reported there.

SouthernHockeyChick
08-12-2003, 02:59 PM
Alicia----I just got some info from my ISP today on how to deal with that worm. Maybe some of this will be helpful:

If your computer has not been infected, you should go to one of the web sites shown below to update your anti-virus software or install a patch to prevent infection.

Here is a Microsoft bulletin regarding this vulnerability:

http://www.microsoft.com/security/security_bulletins/ms03-026.asp

Here is an update from Symantec:

http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/security/Content/8205.html

Here is an update from McAfee:

http://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/default.asp?id=description&virus_k=100547

If your computer becomes infected and gets shut down, you will need to follow these steps (you may want to print them for future reference):


Unplug modem. (**this is from my cable internet company**)
Restart computer.
Go to Start / Search / For Files and Folders.
Confirm that Look in is set for C: drive.
Search for files and folders named: "MSBLAST.exe"
When computer finds the msblast file(s), right click on the file names and delete all copies of the file.
Shut down the machine.
Plug the modem back in.
Restart the machine.
Go directly to one of the web sites above and install the patch and/or update.

Hope that helps. And now I have a question. When I went to the Symantec site to get a patch they seemed to only have versions for Windows 2000 and XP. I'm still running 98. So does that mean I'm cool or should I maybe try to download the 2000 version?

Stormbringer
08-12-2003, 03:09 PM
Hope that helps. And now I have a question. When I went to the Symantec site to get a patch they seemed to only have versions for Windows 2000 and XP. I'm still running 98. So does that mean I'm cool or should I maybe try to download the 2000 version?

I checked Microsoft's official site, and they didn't have a patch for Windows '98 either. So, you're either fine, or it probably wouldn't hurt to try the 2000 patch...if anything, it'll probably tell you that it's not compatible with '98 (Like it did when I wasn't sure which XP I have and tried downloading the XP 64 patch for XP 32), meaning you hopefully don't have to worry SHC. If I find anything for '98, I'll post it here...

Guyute
08-12-2003, 03:11 PM
eeegads! don't run MS "hole" fixes built for 2k/xp on 98! TOTALLY different platforms.

Also, that particular worm seems only geared at 2k/xp (ie- NT based architecture), therefore, there's no need for a 98 patch.

feel free to PM me to chat if you need to.

oh, and Angie... no, you're not cool :p

SouthernHockeyChick
08-12-2003, 03:14 PM
I actually just spent 30 more seconds on it and figured out that 98 isn't at risk....I guess no one else is living in the stone-ages like me. ;) I just had to read the thing from Microsoft. :roll:

But thanks guys!

oh, and Angie... no, you're not cool http://www.tridead.net/canes/images/smilies/moon.gif

Shell
08-12-2003, 03:14 PM
You will be fine Angie..

from the government's Homeland Security website *snort*

SYSTEMS AFFECTED: Computers using the following operating systems:
Microsoft Windows NT 4.0
Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 Terminal Services Edition
Microsoft Windows 2000
Microsoft Windows XP
Microsoft Windows Server 2003

tommy
08-12-2003, 04:15 PM
I guess no one else is living in the stone-ages like me.

My middle name is Stone Age... we had Windows 3.11 up until the point where 98 came out. Scary, huh? Now we still have 98, too. And on a PC with under 7 gigs, too... lol.

Turbulence
08-12-2003, 04:27 PM
I see everyone is switching to Mozilla, which I presume to be another web browser ala IE or Netscape...Is this something I should do? Is IE at that large of a risk? http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/otn/confused/aeh.gif

SouthernHockeyChick
08-12-2003, 04:36 PM
I'd like to hear more about Mozilla as well....

Alicia
08-12-2003, 07:02 PM
Alicia----I just got some info from my ISP today on how to deal with that worm. Maybe some of this will be helpful:


Unplug modem. (**this is from my cable internet company**)
Restart computer.
Go to Start / Search / For Files and Folders.
Confirm that Look in is set for C: drive.
Search for files and folders named: "MSBLAST.exe"
When computer finds the msblast file(s), right click on the file names and delete all copies of the file.
Shut down the machine.
Plug the modem back in.
Restart the machine.
Go directly to one of the web sites above and install the patch and/or update.

Didn't work...when I tried to delete the files, I was told "Access Denied". ?????

hyena
08-12-2003, 08:55 PM
for more info on Mozilla, go to their website:

http://www.mozilla.org/

mozilla is great because:
it has fewer vulnerabilities than IE
it's open source
it has pop-up blocking
it has tabbed browsing. if you've never used tabbed browsing, you will fall in love with it. it also loads up a lot faster than IE for most people.

at the website, click on the link at the top called "why use mozilla"...there is good info there.

/pimping :D

Turbulence
08-12-2003, 09:00 PM
This is my first post using Mozilla (Actually Mozilla Firebird...don't know if it differs that much from Mozilla) and I love it...very simple and user friendly. And the Tab-browsing is awesome...Many times better than IE, that's for sure. :spin:

Guyute
08-13-2003, 07:58 AM
Didn't work...when I tried to delete the files, I was told "Access Denied". ?????

I haven't looked into this bug too much, but most of the "better" ones will set read-only attributes on the files they propegate.

Write down the locations of the "files" you are told you need to delete.
Then, reboot to "Command Prompt Only" by hitting F8 (a couple of times if you don't know the timing of it) when your PC starts booting up (pre-windows).

then, (and hopefully you are somewhat proficient at DOS-speak), go to each location of the files you need to axe, and try deleting from there. Most cases you have much more luck doing that outside of Windows.

If you still can't delete them, you may need to try and change the attributes of the file... but I don't think you should need to do that.
So try doing it in DOS (I think that used to be a t-shirt. lol ) and let us know how it goes.

Shell
08-13-2003, 03:51 PM
Microsoft Braces as Web Worm Prepares to Attack
By Bernhard Warner
Reuters European Internet Correspondent
Wednesday, August 13, 2003; 11:02 AM

LONDON (Reuters) - Like sharp-shooters armed and ready to fire, hundreds of thousands of computers are poised to let fly a potentially crippling data attack on a lone Web site belonging to software giant Microsoft Corp.

Starting on Saturday, August 16, each computer infected by the "Blaster" Internet worm will begin sending packets of data several times per second to the Microsoft site in an attempt to knock it offline.

The targeted Web site is http://www.windowsupdate.com, the site Microsoft uses to distribute updates of its Windows operating system that runs an overwhelming majority of the world's computers.

Blaster has been spreading across the Internet since Monday. On Wednesday, security experts in Europe reported that the worm, which targets computers running on Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows NT and Server 2003 software, was still infecting machines, though at a slower rate.

But the clean-up is far from over.

"Most (IT technicians) today are trying to determine what will be the impact to their systems when this attack is scheduled to go off," said Mikko Hypponen, manager of anti-virus research for Finnish computer security firm F-Secure.

HOME AND CORPORATE USERS HIT

Blaster has hit both home and corporate users, making an accurate toll of infected computers difficult to measure. But computer experts following the worm's progress estimated it had infiltrated hundreds of thousands of machines around the world. The worm, which spreads via an ordinary Internet connection, was described by various network security specialists as a "ticking bomb," though there was much debate over whether it would be a boomer or a dud.

With such a coordinated volley of data timed to deluge a single site, it leaves the overall Internet suscepitible to slowdowns, though many security professionals were playing down that scenario on Wednesday.

A shutdown of the Windows "update" site, the only place to fortify a computer against Blaster, is more likely, they said.

"It's a game of beat the clock," said Raimund Genes, European president of security firm Trend Micro. "People will be working overtime to patch their systems before Saturday to get rid of Blaster."

The worm can be eradicated by downloading the patch off www.windowsupdate.com and re-booting the machine. Microsoft said the worm may cause systems to crash at first, but did not damage the victim's computer.

Gussipekka Pispa, director of information technology at Finland's Tampere University of Technology, told Reuters he and his team were working around the clock to check hundreds of computer servers for signs of a Blaster infestation.

Should the computers start firing data requests at the Microsoft site on Saturday, it could bog down the university's network. "It's a big job," Pispa said.

Alicia
08-13-2003, 06:34 PM
Aren't I the lucky one? :roll: Couldn't I have won a multi-million dollar lottery instead?

IcyRed
08-13-2003, 07:13 PM
After spending the last week dealing with this worm....

msblast.exe is NOT the only payload this little beast delivers. There are several more files dumped into c:\windows\system32 as well. Most of the instances I have seen are TFTPxxxx, no file extension, and are either 0 byte files or 7K byte files. (the xxxx are random sequential UDP ports)

August 16 is the date the DDS attack on www.windowsupdate.com is to happen.

Interesting tidbit...in the actual worm code, is a message saying something like "Billy G, why don't you quit worrying about making money and fix your software"...LOL, I couldn't agree more.

Most hackers are VERY anti microsoft, so, if you have a choice and can, you should steer clear of MS operating systems....

The only products effected are the ones which run an RPC server, which excludes 95, 98, and 3.1/WFW's so you stone agers are safe.....this time.

Icy

roy boy
08-14-2003, 12:27 AM
Did you ever get rid of Xupiter , because I can help you out with all of that. Also if you ever have any computer questions just let me know and i can help you out.

Thank you

RIO
08-14-2003, 04:28 PM
actually, yes, I did manage to get rid of Xupiter (and a whole boatload of other adware/spyware parasites) by downloading Spybot S&D. What a fabulous stroke of genius that software is. Totally free and, so far as I've seen, totally effective. :smoke:

Are you in the computer field, Roy?

JaroFan
08-14-2003, 04:34 PM
and fyi- Microsoft stuff (IE, Outlook, etc..) is THE most targetted software for viruses out there. Using Outlook as email, with the preview pane has become very dangerous. People have learned how to write scripts than don't need to be opened to run. They'll just run in the preview pane when the msg appears.
just stuff to keep in mind.[/quote]


Is there anything I can do about that? I use Outlook & don't want to change! We have Zone Alarm, but I am getting killed with SPAM so it obviously isn't helping Outlook.

Shell
08-14-2003, 07:57 PM
well, it's better to not use the preview pane at all. I'll admit that I do as well though. However, I won't let any email with an attachment I am not expecting show in the window (especially if the file is around 140K).

Also, don't forget to download the windows patch against msblast before Saturday!! My work got nailed by it today and my department had hours of sitting around with nothing to do (100% of my work is computer based).

roy boy
08-14-2003, 08:57 PM
Yes I am RIO, Spybot S&D is a great program but I also recommend ad-ware http://download.com.com/3000-2144-10214379.html?tag=lst-0-1 that gets rid of other stuff that Spyboy did not pick up. If you have any more question let me know.

SouthernHockeyChick
08-14-2003, 09:01 PM
OK, I'm on the Ad-Aware boat....do I need Spybot as well?

Thanks for the help guys!

Shell
08-14-2003, 09:48 PM
I actually did a bunch of research on Spyware S&D after talk here and was impressed with what I saw. I did have ads that started popping up even when I was only on my own ad-free website so I did install it (it is free) and ran it and sure enough it showed me several ad-ware programs on my computer. I deleted them and have not had any unexplained ads since.

(hey Rio, you did send me that thank you card intentionally right?)

RIO
08-15-2003, 01:30 AM
I actually did a bunch of research on Spyware S&D after talk here and was impressed with what I saw. I did have ads that started popping up even when I was only on my own ad-free website so I did install it (it is free) and ran it and sure enough it showed me several ad-ware programs on my computer. I deleted them and have not had any unexplained ads since.

(hey Rio, you did send me that thank you card intentionally right?)

I simply showed my appreciation for the coolest Shell on earth!! Who loves ya baby!? lol http://jm.g.free.fr/smileys/index.php3?debut=417&fin=432

And yes, the Thanks was for your usefulness as well, missy. :smoke:

RIO
08-15-2003, 01:34 AM
Yes I am RIO, Spybot S&D is a great program but I also recommend ad-ware http://download.com.com/3000-2144-10214379.html?tag=lst-0-1 that gets rid of other stuff that Spybot did not pick up. If you have any more question let me know.


I'd heard some really great things about Adware. SO we should run both programs concurrently?

Who ever woulda thought running a computer would become so complicated. :crazy:

JaroFan
08-15-2003, 02:18 PM
well, it's better to not use the preview pane at all. I'll admit that I do as well though. However, I won't let any email with an attachment I am not expecting show in the window (especially if the file is around 140K).

Also, don't forget to download the windows patch against msblast before Saturday!! My work got nailed by it today and my department had hours of sitting around with nothing to do (100% of my work is computer based).

Dumb question, but if i'm at home with a computer with Windows 98, the virus won't hit me, right?

tommy
08-15-2003, 02:21 PM
Seems as if the spam is only concentrated on better operating systems as well, lol... my friend and I both have outlook express on our computers, but he has Windows 2000, we've got 98... he gets tons of spam, we dont get any...

JaroFan
08-15-2003, 02:24 PM
I got rid of my preview pane and it's going to take some MAJOR getting used to, but hopefully i won't get anymore Viagra or genital enlargement spam!!!!!

Guyute
08-15-2003, 02:27 PM
JaroFan, these last couple of viruses did not attack Windows 95/98, so yes, for these, you are safe. But, you should Always keep your pc protected. There's a lot of Very good info in this thread. ;)

As for spam vs Outlook... your email client or your OS really doesn't have much of anything to do with receiving spam. there's not much else to say about that. create a hotmail account solely for using to sign up on webpages. Never Ever Ever buy something from a spam-mail. And Never Ever Ever hit "unsubscribe"... it just shows them that the account is active. best you can do is delete it.

Something needs to be done by the gov't on this form of "marketing". It is SOOOO ridiculously cheap, it's no wonder spam is such a problem. You can buy into a program that for $150 will send 2.5 MILLION emails per shot. It's unbelievable. you can hit 10 Million emails in absolutely no time. and even if you only get a return on 1% of those... you've made a pretty hefty sum of money.

spam won't get ANY better until there's a bill outlawing the companies that provide the mass-mailings, and the software that will do it.

Turbulence
08-15-2003, 02:47 PM
Something needs to be done by the gov't on this form of "marketing".

Problem is, most of it is not based in the United States. I'm convinced that there will never be a stop to it, because there isn't any 'worldwide authority' that can do something about this. So I don't sign up for anything on my roadrunner account. All of my junk goes to spam51002@yahoo.com and I never have any problems.

I guess I'll have to fiddle with the settings and get rid of the preview pane now... :mad:

Lady J
08-15-2003, 06:25 PM
I got rid of my preview pane and it's going to take some MAJOR getting used to, but hopefully i won't get anymore Viagra or genital enlargement spam!!!!!

Yeah, but without the spam, I would have been ignorant of the crucial fact that my penis could be 120% larger.
http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/cepopossible.gif :vamp:

lvscolencanes
08-18-2003, 02:06 PM
I got rid of my preview pane and it's going to take some MAJOR getting used to, but hopefully i won't get anymore Viagra or genital enlargement spam!!!!!

Yeah, but without the spam, I would have been ignorant of the crucial fact that my penis could be 120% larger.
http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/cepopossible.gif :vamp:

:laugh: You are too much Lady J!! :p

RIO
08-19-2003, 12:41 AM
Yeah, but without the spam, I would have been ignorant of the crucial fact that my penis could be 120% larger.
http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/cepopossible.gif :vamp:


I thought there was something different about you. :D I'd guessed 'new hair cut', 'new shoes' and even 'being in love'. :beatup: silly me.

Jeff O Rocks
08-19-2003, 06:49 AM
I thought there was something different about you. :D I'd guessed 'new hair cut', 'new shoes' and even 'being in love'. :beatup: silly me.

J's in love?? Spill the beans...or are you talking about Shanny??? :sick: ;) Sorry OT!!

lvscolencanes
08-19-2003, 08:27 AM
I thought there was something different about you. :D I'd guessed 'new hair cut', 'new shoes' and even 'being in love'. :beatup: silly me.

J's in love?? Spill the beans...or are you talking about Shanny??? :sick: ;) Sorry OT!!

OHHH Rio, cant beleive you got that dude as your avater, I know you love him and all, but I just cant take it!!! :sick:
Just kidding.....I still love ya!! :eek2: ;)
Sorry the bad one always OT, but I have to pick on my buddy! :D :angel:

SouthernHockeyChick
08-19-2003, 03:14 PM
OK, I've gotten 15 e-mail messages so far today from places I've never heard of and they all have attachments (which I obviously haven't opened). Stuff like info@cityofmyrtlebeach.com with the subject line "You application", info@seasideinnmb.com subject line "my details". I just ran a virus scan and nothing showed up. One of the messages was even from Yahoo Groups saying they couldn't un-subscribe me from the group.....because I wasn't subscribed to begin with.

Is this some freak thing with me or does someone know what the hell is going on? Am I just suddenly being spammed to death?

Shell
08-19-2003, 03:17 PM
One of the messages was even from Yahoo Groups saying they couldn't un-subscribe me from the group.....because I wasn't subscribed to begin with.

You didn't try to unsubscribe from a spam mail did you?? If so, that is what it was probably.. that just verifies it is a valid email and they can sell your address. Also, anywhere you post (google group, forums, etc.) that shows your email makes you susceptible. There are 'harvesting' programs that crawl all the webpages and pick up any displayed email address shown, which of course they sell.

Stormbringer
08-19-2003, 03:29 PM
OK, I've gotten 15 e-mail messages so far today from places I've never heard of and they all have attachments (which I obviously haven't opened). Stuff like info@cityofmyrtlebeach.com with the subject line "You application", info@seasideinnmb.com subject line "my details". I just ran a virus scan and nothing showed up. One of the messages was even from Yahoo Groups saying they couldn't un-subscribe me from the group.....because I wasn't subscribed to begin with.

Is this some freak thing with me or does someone know what the hell is going on? Am I just suddenly being spammed to death?

SHC...you've just made my day, the exact same crap has been happening to me! Except, the e-mails I've gotten have claimed to come from Canes and sports personnel, occasional hockey fan type name/e-mail addresses, and even a few of you in there. The only odd name out hockey-wise was "jeffbuckleycommuntygroup@yahoogroups.com", something like that. Other than that detail though, the e-mails are the same...have titles like "Your application", "Thank You!", "my details", etcetera. And have been a pain to deal with because of my Norton going bonkers every few minutes. :mad: Thankfully, the e-mails have finally seem to stop.

Self-sending viruses like Klez and SoBiq are so much fun... :mad: What happened today reminds me of when there was a Klez outbreak in my comic book fan group last year...very much the same thing: we all kept getting e-mails claiming to be from each other, various comic book pros, and various comic fan/geek names and e-mail addresses.

hyena
08-19-2003, 03:33 PM
actually it's probably from the sobig.f virus that hit today....not a big problem, don't open any of the attachments. here's a link with more info:

http://news.com.com/2100-1002_3-5065494.html

Turbulence
08-19-2003, 03:36 PM
Those email finding bots can probably find email addresses from the links in profiles and at the bottoms of posts if you've made it public...I've made mine hidden because of this...
Perhaps if you want it listed you can list it as whatever[at]letsgocanes.com instead of whatever@letsgocanes.com...

Or I could be wrong about it reading the addresses off of this site...who am I to say? :spin:

Kat
08-19-2003, 03:52 PM
I think the reason for all of this (which is happening to me too) can be found here: http://www.letsgocanes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1107

-Kat

Shell
08-19-2003, 04:03 PM
Those email finding bots can probably find email addresses from the links in profiles and at the bottoms of posts if you've made it public...I've made mine hidden because of this...
Perhaps if you want it listed you can list it as whatever[at]letsgocanes.com instead of whatever@letsgocanes.com...

Or I could be wrong about it reading the addresses off of this site...who am I to say? :spin:

Your email addresses here are protected unless you post them. Most bots are smart enough to catch on to whatever[at]letsgocanes.com but you can do whateverDELETETHESECAPS@letsgocanes.com and that kindof thing

SouthernHockeyChick
08-19-2003, 09:43 PM
One of the messages was even from Yahoo Groups saying they couldn't un-subscribe me from the group.....because I wasn't subscribed to begin with.

You didn't try to unsubscribe from a spam mail did you?? If so, that is what it was probably.. that just verifies it is a valid email and they can sell your address. Also, anywhere you post (google group, forums, etc.) that shows your email makes you susceptible. There are 'harvesting' programs that crawl all the webpages and pick up any displayed email address shown, which of course they sell.

Nope, never do anything with spam but delete it and my e-mail address is not shown anywhere that I can keep it from being shown. Too many freakin' wackos out there.....I think you know who I mean. ;)

I only post regularly here, tridead, N&O and CH (not a MB hound all around....just the Canes) and NONE of them have my e-mail accessible that I know of.

RIO
08-19-2003, 09:47 PM
Too many freakin' wackos out there.....I think you know who I mean. ;)


Yeah. We all know you mean Canadians. :crazy:

oh wait... you meant me. Heh. WELL!! Just because I set up another "weather" station in your driveway (besides my other in Shell's drive) and wear a tin foil hat DOESNT mean I'm a wacko. It means I'm homeless and schizophrenic.

:p