Which people do you want to just go away and make the world a better place

[superdave]

Originally Posted by nccanes

I'd really love to watch a news program that goes into the whole psychology of these spineless dumbasses. I mean, John Edwards make a sex tape? Anthony Weiner sends those photos of himself, etc., etc., etc.

I guess I get the whole power/ego trip thing that allows men of power get involved with little honeys....but the fact that their common sense (these aren't dumb people) goes out the window ALONG with their character? Crazy.

For whatever reason, these guys do the stupidest things when running around with the young ladies. Who was it that said that there wasn't enough blood to operate both heads was right on the money in these cases.

[nccanes]

[superdave]

Get yer popcorn ready, this Petrino deal is going to get better.
http://deadspin.com/5901394/over-two...a-bikini-model

Petrino exchanged nearly two hundred text and picture messages with a Little Rock cell phone registered to one Alison Melder...she did a spot of modeling, at least a few years back. One modeling profile she created four years ago contains a portfolio of bikini and lingerie images... She also lists herself as winner of the 2008 Miss Bikini USA and Miss Motorcycle Mania competitions.

Keep in mind, this is all on his university supplied cell phone.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Originally Posted by superdave

Keep in mind, this is all on his university supplied cell phone.

Not that I don't TOTALLY agree with the point, this just has me thinking....

Last year, my employer decided they would no longer supply cell phones for those of us who need/have one. Instead, we began getting a monthly stipend to use to either keep our work cell phone with whatever plan we wanted to get on it or, to apply to our personal cell account and use that for work. I gave them back my dinky work phone and just apply my stipend to my personal account (drawback is my personal cell number is now available to the entire organization and yes, I have gotten calls/texts in the middle of the night when I should not have).

So, if I start having an affair with a younger man and use my phone to text and call him....would this then be reported as me doing so on my "not-for-profit healthcare system supplied cell phone"? Just curious.

[superdave]

Originally Posted by SouthernHockeyChick

Not that I don't TOTALLY agree with the point, this just has me thinking....

Last year, my employer decided they would no longer supply cell phones for those of us who need/have one. Instead, we began getting a monthly stipend to use to either keep our work cell phone with whatever plan we wanted to get on it or, to apply to our personal cell account and use that for work. I gave them back my dinky work phone and just apply my stipend to my personal account (drawback is my personal cell number is now available to the entire organization and yes, I have gotten calls/texts in the middle of the night when I should not have).

So, if I start having an affair with a younger man and use my phone to text and call him....would this then be reported as me doing so on my "not-for-profit healthcare system supplied cell phone"? Just curious.

I would think you would be in the clear. It isn't an employer cell phone "per se".

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...elder/1?csp=hf
USAToday is reporting the same info on the lingerie model.


Maybe Petrino is the Tiger Woods of college football. I wonder how long until he does an interview and claims to be a sex addict?

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Ted Nugent.

[kermelbar]

+1

[superdave]

Nadya 'Octomom' Suleman visited by police, social services
USAToday

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1?csp=obinsite

She was one of the founders of this thread.

[nccanes]

Again, I haven't followed much of her story other than via headlines lately, but I did hear a chat on some talk show about people being pissed that she's on public assistance (something I guess she said she'd never do). The kids are here....it ain't their fault their Mom created a 14 kid (or whatever it is) family with no income.

Anyway - whatever happened to the fertility Dr that went along with this debacle. He seems like the person who could have been the failsafe measure to prevent this from happening -- at least to this degree. Did he walk away with no fallout?

[superdave]

Originally Posted by nccanes

Anyway - whatever happened to the fertility Dr that went along with this debacle. He seems like the person who could have been the failsafe measure to prevent this from happening -- at least to this degree. Did he walk away with no fallout?

Yeah, I have problems (major problems) with him too. It seems unethical.

[KaniacFever]

Originally Posted by nccanes

Again, I haven't followed much of her story other than via headlines lately, but I did hear a chat on some talk show about people being pissed that she's on public assistance (something I guess she said she'd never do). The kids are here....it ain't their fault their Mom created a 14 kid (or whatever it is) family with no income.

Anyway - whatever happened to the fertility Dr that went along with this debacle. He seems like the person who could have been the failsafe measure to prevent this from happening -- at least to this degree. Did he walk away with no fallout?

I love how she claims her children were outside on the little training potties because her bathroom is fixed. So let me get this straight. You can spend $520 on your OWN hair do getting some Brazilian blow out or whatever, but you can't afford to fix your toilet.

I'm sorry but this just rubs me the wrong way. You're on welfare, yet I'm your spending $520 on your hair. I don't even spend that much money on my hair.

[superdave]

And are ridiculed by the announcer and now DEMAND AN APOLOGY.

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...p#.T5wL_6N5mSM

[kermelbar]

I saw the kid's parents on "Today" this week and THEY, IMO, have it right -- "we're trying to teach our kid that you don't always get what you want."

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Yeah, I've been VERY impressed with the kid's parents.

I'm really fine with absolutely everything that happened at the game. Oblivious or not, they caught the ball. If they wanted to keep it, I'm OK with that. It wasn't like a hockey situation where the player designated a kid to get the ball and some adult snatched it away. The player lobbed it into the crowd--it's anybody's ball. I personally would probably give something to a kid because I'm not a collector. But no one is required to do that. I'm fine with them keeping it.

It's the demanding an apology part that makes these two total douchebags.

[superdave]

Originally Posted by SouthernHockeyChick

It's the demanding an apology part that makes these two total douchebags.

That's the bell ringer.

As far as the ball goes, the player flipped it in the stands and the couple got it. To be decent, they should have handed it to the kid who was wailing and holding his hands out a foot away from them...oh, yeah, they didn't see him.

If I'm lucky enough at a hockey game to get seats within souvenir range, I always look around to see where the kids are. Same thing at a baseball game.

[kermelbar]

You can tell I have zero interest in having kids because I keep thinking, "It's never too early to teach the kid that you can't have everything." And teaching a kid that he gets a ball by wailing? *shudders* I'm just not sympathetic to the kid, especially when I feel like his parents had a good, level-headed approach to it.

I saw the video as it ran on "Today" when the kid's parents were on and I thought it was a little ridiculous how the announcer just kept going on and on about not giving the kid a ball. IMO, there's a decent chance that he is the one who stirred up the hornet's nest. I watch ZERO baseball, but does the camera and announcer ever linger that long on someone in the stands getting a ball?

[nccanes]

During the lockout, my boys (who were lets see....13 and 9) and I went to a few ECHL games. They caught a Tshirt in a pretty empty arena in Columbia SC. We laughed and then I looked them, looked at a smaller child nearby and they went and handed it to him. The parents and kid were thrilled and everyone was happy.

Those 2 people were jerks for not handing it to the kid (IMO) and bigger jerks for complaining about it.

Even if they didn't know the kids was crying about the actual ball, they saw/heard a crying preschooler in the next seat and could have given it to him...just to be nice.

As far as crying to get what you want....for his age, I'm actually pretty impressed how quickly the kid collects himself and is just sad/weepy. And the kid was just a SMIDGE at a disadvantage to beat the guy 8 times his size to the ball.

http://mlb.mlb.com/cutfour/article.j...nt_id=29693172

here's the other video of the lady "posing" with it and then someone else from the dugout sends up a ball to give to the kid. In the video clip, you can clearly see the kid sitting there watching the game with his glove at the ready hoping he could catch a ball. I'm sorry - those people are just straight up jerks.

And kudos to the fan that took the one from the dugout tossed it over to the kid! From the applause at the nearby fans, I suspect people were a bit stunned at the "grown ups" keeping it.

Do what you want, be willing to be judged for it!!

[nccanes]

Originally Posted by kermelbar

I watch ZERO baseball, but does the camera and announcer ever linger that long on someone in the stands getting a ball?

I don't watch must either, but baseball as a TON of dead time. I'm sure if they see a fan in the crowd doing something interesting (and have it on video) they use it. A little boy getting his first ball (OR in the case the opposite) is the perfect americana type stuff viewers/broadcasters eat up.

Maybe the people aren't jerks, but they are some pretty self absorbed folks. They are sitting next to a preschooler with a glove for 8 innings. They didn't notice him holding up his glove to catch a foul ball at some point?

[Jay]

Maybe it makes me a bad person, but if I catch a puck/baseball/whatever at a game -- it's my souvenir. Sorry kid, but I'm a fan too, and I like getting the cool stuff just like you do.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Originally Posted by Jay

Maybe it makes me a bad person, but if I catch a puck/baseball/whatever at a game -- it's my souvenir. Sorry kid, but I'm a fan too, and I like getting the cool stuff just like you do.

I don't think it does. I have always given stuff I've caught to the nearest kid just because I don't want it. But if an adult does want something they legitimately obtained I think they have every right to keep it. I don't consider kid sports fans more important than grown-up ones.

Now knocking a kid out of the way to get something is super uncool. And demanding an apology in this situation is just the height of idiocy, IMO.

But the ball was theirs.

[superdave]

Originally Posted by SouthernHockeyChick

demanding an apology in this situation is just the height of idiocy, IMO.

But the ball was theirs.

I didn't see the need to place them in our "thread of dishonor" until they wanted an apology.

...and Jay, I don't think it makes you a bad person, but I'd give it to a kid. I'd rather a kid have something than me. To me, it would be just another souvenir, but to a kid, it's a memory. When I was a kid, Rocky Mount had a minor league baseball team and my Grandpa took me to a lot of games on Sunday afternoons. One Sunday, a foul ball came our way and my Grandpa got it and handed it to me. l got that ball autographed by many of the players on the team. 40 years later, that baseball sits on my mantle, autographs smudged and unreadable from too many handlings. It isn't a baseball, it's a memory of my childhood with my Grandpa. I don't really care much about baseball anymore, but that's my most valuable sports souvenir.

[nccanes]

Yeah - I guess I can't voice my opinion without judging, but I guess I'm just not wired to understand why a grown adult would keep a ball over the kid that's sitting there with a glove on his hand for 8 innings. I get super annoyed at grown adults who catch T shirts at Canes game who because of their size and reach can get to it before the kid next or in front of them and then keep it. An 8 year old really doesn't have as much of a chance from some 6 foot person -- not exactly a level playing field.

And I thought about this for a bit, and as I often do, flipped the situation around in my head. Perhaps the kid was a real pain in the ass for 8 innings and the people were just not in the mood to be generous because of it. HOWEVER, given that no one can prove that they knew or did not know the kid was wanting a ball, they could easily just have said "If we had realized he was upset about the ball (or dreamed of catching a ball or it was his favorite player or whatever) OF COURSE we would have given it to him". That could be a big ol' bunch of BS or PR, but they would have come out looking good and it would have been "end of story".

[nccanes]

I realize that politics are off limits, but this is really not the politician themselves, but the groupies related (though Edwards did make his appearance in this thread I think).

I've been sorta/kinda skimming the N&O articles about the trial and kinda/sorta fascinated by Andrew Young's wife (and how they are portraying her in the articles so presumably how she's being viewed in court).

When I saw this about the courtroom laughing...I HAD to read on...and I also burst out laughing.

More than once, she broke down in tears, most times quickly collecting herself. Once, though, Judge Catherine Eagles sent the jury out of the courtroom for a few minutes after Cheri Young was unable to quickly compose herself.

Cheri Young occasionally drew laughs from the courtroom gallery while describing scenes with or about Hunter while they were moving about the country trying to hide Edwards’ pregnant mistress.

In one such incident, Cheri Young described eating in an Aspen, Colorado restaurant with her husband, their three children and Hunter. Hunter had ordered a reuben sandwich that came with a different dressing than the one she wanted.Hunter took a bite, then threw down the sandwich. She was so upset she immediately put in a long call to Bob McGovern, her spiritual adviser in California. In Hollywood, Fla, Cheri Young testified, Hunter insisted on a room change at a expensive hotel, exclaiming it didn’t have the right “energy.”

When asked by prosecutor Robert Higdon what Hunter meant by that, Cheri Young stated she had no idea.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/04/...#storylink=cpy

Cheri Young testified that when she first learned that Hunter was coming to their home to live with her family for a brief time after an incident with National Enquirer reporters in New Jersey, she quickly cleaned the house, went out and bought groceries and new sheets.

“I had a presidential candidate’s mistress coming to stay at my house, last minute,” she said.

Hunter, Cheri Young recalled, showed up with a flourish, stopping in their entryway, then spinning in that spot while announcing “I’m here.”

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/04/...#storylink=cpy

[superdave]

There's just so much about the whole Edwards/Hunter/Young thing that baffles the mind. One of the people at work bought the Jones book a while back and I read it. I realize that what he says is questionable at best, but it mostly jives with the story. There was definitely stuff in there about Hunter not being able to make a decision without calling her MindHead advisor. That must have been some GOOOOOOOD stuff to get ol' Johny Boy that wrapped up with a nut job.

Reading what Ms. Young testified, I can't put 1 and 1 together and get 2. She said that Bunny Mellon had the checks written to her decorator and then Cheri Young had to cash them in her maiden name so they couldn't be traced back to Andrew or Edwards. Then she says that Edwards assured Andrew that the donations were legal. I personally think she's dumb as a post (remember, she played along with her husband claiming paternity and then having Hunter live with them while they waited on her hand and foot).

All that crowd needs to disappear to make the world a better place.

[nccanes]

Well I agree that Cheri Young is someone I can't seem to understand, but again, they had 3 kids and she knew that if she pulled the plug, the whole house of cards (and power) would come crashing down on her head. I am enjoying her testimony (or the recaps). Last week it sounded like she was finally venting publicly about how pissed she was. edit: but yes I agree -- they are all cuckoo crazy.

However, the whole legal issue is kind of interesting -- at least from what I gathered when they first decided to move forward.

Since the money from his campaign was not used to hide/support the baby mama, is it really campaign fund misconduct? I guess we'll find out. But the funds weren't used to promote or directly further his campaign, but rather to protect his image. Perhaps that's the same thing in this day and age, but I find the whole thing fascinating.

It's not like Bunny's money was going to fund ads or promos or polls or canvasing or anything, it was just to keep his baby mama fed/clothed/and on the move.

If my rich friend paid for me to have liposuction and a nose job, or paid for you to get hair plugs - is that campaign fraud? (disclaimer: this does not imply that I need a nose job or Dave needs hairplugs! )

But yeah, of course the funneling thru the decorator and wife of your staffer -- doesn't exactly exude confidence in the up and up!

edit: I'm not sure if anyone on the national level is talking about this trial anymore (bigger fish to fry) but at the time they decided to move forward, even some of the republican talking heads said they thought it was pushing the campaign finance laws and that it was going to be an expensive trial for the govt.