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Old 02-14-2012, 08:53 AM
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My favourite thread to create. Happy St. Valentine's Day!

The Hurricanes have certainly improved since Muller came on board, and the season isn't over. They currently have the fewest losses in their L10 record of any team in the East (1); unfortunately, they also have the most OTLs in their L10 of any team in the East (4). Even so, it means they have only gone pointless in one of their last 10 games, and racked up 14 points. They're going to have to keep that up, however, if not improve upon it - at that pace, they would rack up 35 points in their last 25 games, giving them 88 points - and we all know how iffy a playoff berth is for a team with 88 points.

I can't be bothered to actually look it up, but i'm going to wager to say this is the first time i've ever done this report where FLA were leading the division.

New column (gl) = games left.

http://www.letsgocanes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11470



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P.O.O.P. report - 14 February, 2012

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CONFERENCE

(entire conference)

1. NYR 54gp 36-13-5 77pts 28gl 133max
2. BOS 53gp 34-17-2 70pts 29gl 128max
3. PIT 56gp 32-19-5 69pts 26gl 121max
4. PHI 56gp 31-18-7 69pts 26gl 121max
5. NJE 55gp 31-20-4 66pts 27gl 120max
6. FLA 55gp 27-17-11 65pts 27gl 119max
7. TOR 56gp 28-22-6 62pts 26gl 114max
8. WSH 56gp 28-23-5 61pts 26gl 113max
9. OTT 58gp 28-22-8 64pts 24gl 112max
10. WPG 57gp 26-25-6 58pts 25gl 108max
11. BUF 55gp 24-25-6 54pts 27gl 108max
12. TBY 55gp 24-25-6 54pts 27gl 108max
13. NYI 55gp 23-24-8 54pts 27gl 108max
14. MTL 57gp 23-25-9 55pts 25gl 105max
15. CAR 57gp 21-25-11 53pts 25gl 103max



CAR can finish as high as 1st
CAR can finish as low as 15th

CAR - 15th in East

Games - 14 February, 2012

NYR @ BOS
BOS v NYR
PIT -idle-
PHI -idle-
NJE @ BUF
FLA -idle-
TOR @ CGY
WSH -idle-
OTT @ TBY
WPG v NYI
BUF v NJE
TBY v OTT
NYI @ WPG
MTL -idle-
CAR -idle-


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DIVISION

(entire division)

1. FLA 55gp 27-17-11 65pts 27gl 119max
2. WSH 56gp 28-23-5 61pts 26gl 113max
3. WPG 57gp 26-25-6 58pts 25gl 108max
4. TBY 55gp 24-25-6 54pts 27gl 108max
5. CAR 57gp 21-25-11 53pts 25gl 103max

CAR can finish as high as 1st
CAR can finish as low as 5th

CAR - 5th in SE

Games - 14 February, 2012

FLA -idle-
WSH -idle-
WPG v NYI
TBY v OTT
CAR -idle-
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:51 PM
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Hm. Don't look now, but the Hurricanes actually have 3 games in hand against #7 Ottawa, and 1 game in hand against #8 Toronto, with 1 game head to head with each. And 4 games head to head with Florida.
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Hurricanes finally played another game, so i do an update. Don't expect this every game, of course.

CAR are now tied with BUF in points with the same number of games played, however BUF have more wins. CAR sit only a point behind TBY and NYI, however both have a game in hand. MTL are 3 pts up, with CAR having the game in hand. All told, the worst-case scenario happened in the MTL-BUF game last night - MTL won in a skills competition (stupid slugs). As caveman pointed out, though, CAR still have enough head-to-heads with the teams that matter, however, so it's still possible.

If the Hurricanes still want to make the playoffs, and i see no sign that they don't, then tonight would be a really good time to figure out how to beat the Islanders.

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P.O.O.P. report - 18 February, 2012

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CONFERENCE

(entire conference)

1. NYR 56gp 26gl 37-14-5 79pts 131max
2. BOS 56gp 26gl 35-19-2 72pts 124max
3. PHI 57gp 25gl 32-18-7 71pts 121max
4. NJE 57gp 25gl 33-20-4 70pts 120max
5. PIT 57gp 25gl 32-20-5 69pts 119max
6. FLA 57gp 25gl 27-19-11 65pts 115max
7. WSH 57gp 25gl 29-23-5 63pts 113max
8. OTT 60gp 22gl 30-22-8 68pts 112max
9. TOR 58gp 24gl 29-23-6 64pts 112max
10. WPG 60gp 22gl 28-26-6 62pts 106max
11. TBY 57gp 25gl 25-26-6 56pts 106max
12. NYI 57gp 25gl 24-25-8 56pts 106max
13. MTL 59gp 23gl 24-25-10 58pts 104max
14. BUF 58gp 24gl 24-27-7 55pts 103max
15. CAR 58gp 24gl 22-25-11 55pts 103max

PHI & NJE have passed PIT in the p.o.o.p. standings
WSH & OTT have passed TOR in the p.o.o.p. standings
TBY, NYI, & MTL have passed BUF in the p.o.o.p. standings

CAR can finish as high as 1st
CAR can finish as low as 15th

CAR - 15th in East

Games - 18 February, 2012

NYR -idle-
BOS -idle-
PHI v PIT
NJE -idle-
PIT @ PHI
FLA -idle-
WSH @ TBY
OTT -idle-
TOR @ VAN
WPG -idle-
TBY v WSH
NYI v CAR
MTL -idle-
BUF -idle-
CAR @ NYI


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DIVISION

(entire division)

1. FLA 57gp 25gl 27-19-11 65pts 115max
2. WSH 57gp 25gl 29-23-5 63pts 113max
3. WPG 60gp 22gl 28-26-6 62pts 106max
4. TBY 57gp 25gl 25-26-6 56pts 106max
5. CAR 58gp 24gl 22-25-11 55pts 103max

CAR can finish as high as 1st
CAR can finish as low as 5th

CAR - 5th in SE

Games - 18 February, 2012

FLA -idle-
WSH @ TBY
WPG -idle-
TBY v WSH
CAR @ NYI
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:52 AM
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Playoffs are still a long shot, but consider this - at this moment, there is only a 3max difference between making the playoffs and overtaking FLA, who the Hurricanes still face 4 more times this year. Again, a long shot - but someone has to win the SE, and the Hurricanes still have the best L10 record. Contemplate that one, Bucky...

Now to pass beyond speculation, some facts -

1) If DAL defeat MTL (14th) tonight in regulation, CAR will pass MTL in the p.o.o.p. standings
2) NYI (12th) and BUF (13th) cannot both win tonight. CAR do not have enough wins to overtake either at this time, however
3) TBY (11th) play tonight
4) WPG (10th) play tonight
5) WSH (9th) are playing their worst hockey in a long while, and i'm not just talking last night


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P.O.O.P. report - 21 February, 2012

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CONFERENCE

(entire conference)

1. NYR 57gp 25gl 38-14-5 81pts 131max
2. BOS 57gp 25gl 35-20-2 72pts 122max
3. NJE 58gp 24gl 34-20-4 72pts 120max
4. PHI 58gp 24gl 32-19-7 71pts 119max
5. PIT 59gp 23gl 33-21-5 71pts 117max
6. FLA 58gp 24gl 27-20-11 65pts 113max
7. OTT 61gp 21gl 31-22-8 70pts 112max
8. TOR 59gp 23gl 29-24-6 64pts 110max
9. WSH 59gp 23gl 29-25-5 63pts 109max
10. WPG 61gp 21gl 29-26-6 64pts 106max
11. TBY 58gp 24gl 26-26-6 58pts 106max
12. NYI 59gp 23gl 25-26-8 58pts 104max
13. BUF 59gp 23gl 25-27-7 57pts 103max
14. MTL 60gp 22gl 24-26-10 58pts 102max
15. CAR 60gp 22gl 23-26-11 57pts 101max

NJE have passed PHI in the p.o.o.p. standings
OTT & TOR have passed WSH in the p.o.o.p. standings
BUF have passed MTL in the p.o.o.p. standings

CAR can finish as high as 1st
CAR can finish as low as 15th

CAR - 15th in East

Games - 21 February, 2012

NYR @ PIT
BOS -idle-
NJE @ TOR
PHI @ WPG
PIT v NYR
FLA -idle-
OTT -idle-
TOR v NJE
WSH -idle-
WPG v PHI
TBY v ANA
NYI @ BUF
BUF v NYI
MTL v DAL
CAR -idle-


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DIVISION

(entire division)

1. FLA 58gp 24gl 27-20-11 65pts 113max
2. WSH 59gp 23gl 29-25-5 63pts 109max
3. WPG 61gp 21gl 29-26-6 64pts 106max
4. TBY 58gp 24gl 26-26-6 58pts 106max
5. CAR 60gp 22gl 23-26-11 57pts 101max

CAR can finish as high as 1st
CAR can finish as low as 5th

CAR - 5th in SE

Games - 21 February, 2012

FLA -idle-
WSH -idle-
WPG v PHI
TBY v ANA
CAR -idle-
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Yeah, the key right now looks to be that we're 8 points back of Florida, with 4 games to play against them. Sweep them (yeah! though we're 0-1-1 in the first 2...) and we'd be tied, though Florida has 2 games in hand. (And we'd have to pass Winnipeg, Washington, and Tampa, too...)

We have:

4 more games vs. Florida -- we trail them by 8 points, they have 2 games in hand -- best case: tied, they have 2 games in hand

1 more game vs. Washington -- we trail them by 6 points, they have 1 game in hand -- best case: we trail by 4 points, they have 1 game in hand

2 more games vs. Tampa -- we trail them by 1 point, they have 2 games in hand -- best case: we lead by 3 points, they have 2 games in hand

2 more games vs. Winnipeg -- we trail them by 7 points, and we have 1 game in hand -- best case: we trail by 3 points, we have 1 game in hand

That's the divisional picture, and it's not terribly rosy. But it's not impossible, darn it. Still, the temptation has to be strong to deal Spacek and Allen for picks/etc. (And Ruutu for that matter, if talks aren't getting anywhere...)

For the "p.o.o.l.", Columbus has #30 on lock down, and Edmonton is making a strong case for #29. Not much room between 17-27.
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A few things went right for CAR last night, while others went wrong. It all changes with each day, however. Simply put, if CAR take care of their own business, they don't have to rely on other things going right. But each 'right' gives them a little extra cushion.

Thanks to DAL, CAR have passed MTL in the p.o.o.p. standings. This is probably the first time since about the first month of the season that CAR wasn't in dead last. WPG lost, albeit in OT. BUF beat NYI, but at least that one didn't go to OT, which puts CAR a mere p.o.o.p. behind NYI with the same number of games played. Now just imagine if NYI's sweep over CAR didn't happen...

Only two games in the East tonight, WSH @ OTT and BOS @ STL (the latter not being one that will have much impact on CAR making the playoffs, i'm afraid). As for the former, of course both teams last played on the same night, WSH being shutout by CAR and OTT shutting out NYI. Straight up, CAR will most likely have to overtake one of these teams to make the playoffs. An OTT win would be nice, but i'm mainly just hoping whoever wins does it in regulation.

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P.O.O.P. report - 22 February, 2012

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CONFERENCE

(entire conference)

1. NYR 58gp 24gl 38-15-5 81pts 129max
2. BOS 57gp 25gl 35-20-2 72pts 122max
3. NJE 59gp 23gl 35-20-4 74pts 120max
4. PHI 59gp 23gl 33-19-7 73pts 119max
5. PIT 60gp 22gl 34-21-5 73pts 117max
6. FLA 58gp 24gl 27-20-11 65pts 113max
7. OTT 61gp 21gl 31-22-8 70pts 112max
8. TOR 60gp 22gl 29-24-7 65pts 109max
9. WSH 59gp 23gl 29-25-5 63pts 109max
10. TBY 59gp 23gl 27-26-6 60pts 106max
11. WPG 62gp 20gl 29-26-7 63pts 105max
12. BUF 60gp 22gl 26-27-7 59pts 103max
13. NYI 60gp 22gl 25-27-8 58pts 102max
14. CAR 60gp 22gl 23-26-11 57pts 101max
15. MTL 61gp 21gl 24-27-10 58pts 100max

TBY have passed WPG in the p.o.o.p. standings
BUF have passed NYI in the p.o.o.p. standings
CAR have passed MTL in the p.o.o.p. standings

CAR can finish as high as 1st
CAR can finish as low as 15th

CAR - 14th in East

Games - 22 February, 2012

NYR -idle-
BOS @ STL
NJE -idle-
PHI -idle-
PIT -idle-
FLA -idle-
OTT v WSH
TOR -idle-
WSH @ OTT
TBY -idle-
WPG -idle-
BUF -idle-
NYI -idle-
CAR -idle-
MTL -idle-


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DIVISION

(entire division)

1. FLA 58gp 24gl 27-20-11 65pts 113max
2. WSH 59gp 23gl 29-25-5 63pts 109max
3. TBY 59gp 23gl 27-26-6 60pts 106max
4. WPG 62gp 20gl 29-26-7 63pts 105max
5. CAR 60gp 22gl 23-26-11 57pts 101max

CAR can finish as high as 1st
CAR can finish as low as 5th

CAR - 5th in SE

Games - 22 February, 2012

FLA -idle-
WSH @ OTT
TBY -idle-
WPG -idle-
CAR -idle-

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No changes in the rankings, so no rankings update here. Games tonight, though -

PHI @ EDM
MIN @ FLA
SJO @TOR
TBY @ WIN
ANA @ CAR

PHI - doesn't much concern us here. Mathematically it can happen, but realistically, uh, no.

FLA - even with 4 remaining head-to-heads, CAR will need some other things to fall into place in order to overtake the Panthers. Tonight could be the start of that as each team take on Western Conference teams fighting to make the playoffs.

TOR - another of those teams CAR will likely have to overtake, and one taking on a stronger Western Conference team than either FLA or CAR.

TBY/WIN - they can't both win, right? Just hope someone does it in regulation.

CAR - According to sportsclubstats, CAR need a 15-5-2 record from here on out just to have a 53.3% chance of making the playoffs - but i think we'd all like to see better odds than that. Which means they really need a win, so hopefully no Tim Peel tonight.
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Winnipeg slaughtering TBY at the moment - we pick up 1 pt - so although I don't think we move up in the p.o.o.p overall, we are only 2 points behind TBY (but they have 2 games in hand). Now we just need to go 15-5-1 to have >50% odds of making the playoffs.
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Actually it's 14-4-3 now: http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/E.../Carolina.html
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Unfortunately you're right - we don't move up in the p.o.o.p. standings. Even worse, we drop.

It was just a simple SOL, but it may have left the Hurricanes SOL. Down to a 2.7% chance on sportsclubstats.com and, as mentioned, back to last place in the p.o.o.p. standings. Each loss, whether it comes in regulation, overtime, shootout, or puckhandling around pylons, is really a nail in the coffin at this point. I'm truly hoping that everything JR does or doesn't do between now and Monday is for the team moving forward and not for their typical late-season charge, as it isn't worth investing the future on such an unlikely occurance. If Allen and Spacek are in the plans for next season, sign them... but don't keep them around just to fill Pitkanen's spot for another week so we can keep the charge going - get something for them while you still can (i'm tempted to throw Jokinen into that statement as well right about now...).

3 important games tonight as the 3 teams ahead of CAR in the p.o.o.p. standings all take on toughter opponents (well, perhaps not in the case of MTL and WSH). CAR can potentially be sitting in 14th tomorrow, 1 pt behind BUF, tied with NYI in pts but with 2 fewer wins, and 2 pts up from MTL. Or they can still be in 15th and even further behind in wins (they already have the fewest in the entire conference).

You think i'm all gloom and doom now, just imagine if they hadn't gotten the point last night...


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P.O.O.P. report - 24 February, 2012

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CONFERENCE

(entire conference)

1. NYR 58gp 24gl 38-15-5 81pts 129max
2. BOS 58gp 24gl 36-20-2 74pts 122max
3. NJE 59gp 23gl 35-20-4 74pts 120max
4. PIT 60gp 22gl 34-21-5 73pts 117max
5. PHI 60gp 22gl 33-20-7 73pts 117max
6. OTT 62gp 20gl 32-22-8 72pts 112max
7. FLA 59gp 23gl 27-20-12 66pts 112max
8. TOR 61gp 21gl 29-25-7 65pts 107max
9. WSH 60gp 22gl 29-26-5 63pts 107max
10. WPG 63gp 19gl 30-26-7 67pts 105max
11. TBY 60gp 22gl 27-27-6 60pts 105max
12. BUF 60gp 22gl 26-27-7 59pts 103max
13. NYI 60gp 22gl 25-27-8 58pts 102max
14. MTL 61gp 21gl 24-27-10 58pts 100max
15. CAR 61gp 21gl 23-26-12 58pts 100max

PIT have passed PHI in the p.o.o.p. standings
OTT have passed FLA in the p.o.o.p. standings
WPG have passed TBY in the p.o.o.p. standings
MTL have passed CAR in the p.o.o.p. standings

CAR can finish as high as 1st
CAR can finish as low as 15th

CAR - 15th in East

Games - 24 February, 2012

NYR @ NYI
BOS @ BUF
NJE v VAN
PIT -idle-
PHI -idle-
OTT -idle-
FLA -idle-
TOR -idle-
WSH v MTL
WPG -idle-
TBY -idle-
BUF v BOS
NYI v NYR
MTL @ WSH
CAR -idle-


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DIVISION

(entire division)

1. FLA 59gp 23gl 27-20-12 66pts 112max
2. WSH 60gp 22gl 29-26-5 63pts 107max
3. WPG 63gp 19gl 30-26-7 67pts 105max
4. TBY 60gp 22gl 27-27-6 60pts 105max
5. CAR 61gp 21gl 23-26-12 58pts 100max

CAR can finish as high as 1st
CAR can finish as low as 5th

CAR - 5th in SE

Games - 24 February, 2012

FLA -idle-
WSH v MTL
WPG -idle-
TBY -idle-
CAR -idle-
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Hm...

Canes vs. Jets: 9 points back, with 2 games in hand, and 2 head to head games: possible margin: 1 point

Canes vs. Florida: 8 points back, with -2 games in hand, and 4 head to head games: possible margin: 0-4 points depending on Florida's games in hand

Canes vs. Washington: 5 points back, with -1 games in hand, and 1 head to head game: possible margin: 3-5 points depending on Washington's games in hand

Canes vs. Tampa: 2 points back, with -1 games in hand, and 2 head to head games: possible margin: 0-2 points ahead depending on Tampa's game in hand

So, crazy best cases: 1 point back of Jets, tied with Florida, 3 points back of Caps, and 2 points ahead of Tampa, with 5 home games vs. Nashville, Rangers, Blues, Devils, and Montreal, and 7 road games at Sabres, Rangers, Wild, Blue Jackets, Wings, Leafs, and Senators, outside of the division.
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This thread is starting to take on two dimensions - MBR's well-established p.o.o.p. and now Caveman's new analysis: c.r.a.p. (Cane's record approaches perfection)
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sportsclubstats now has CAR with a 51% chance of making the playoffs if they can go 14-4-2. Whatcha think?

Despite the nails that have been hammered into the coffin over the past 2 games, the point still exists that the Hurricanes did pick up 2 pts and are sitting in 14th, ahead of the Montreal Coleberles in the p.o.o.p. standings. Had they won those games, they'd be sitting in 14th, ahead of the Montreal Coleberles in the p.o.o.p. standings. The difference is that they'd be sitting 1 pt behind BUF, TBY, and NYI instead of 3, and 6 behind the 8th-place Capitals instead of 8.

Not trying to resurrect any dying hopes, but the fact of the matter is that they haven't really lost that much ground. Problem is that they didn't have much ground left to lose, and they now have even less. They still need to win somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 of their remaining games, and they only have 20 opportunities to do that.

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P.O.O.P. report - 26 February, 2012

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CONFERENCE

(entire conference)

1. NYR 60gp 22gl 39-15-6 84pts 128max
2. BOS 60gp 22gl 37-20-3 77pts 121max
3. NJE 60gp 22gl 35-21-4 74pts 118max
4. PIT 61gp 21gl 35-21-5 75pts 117max
5. PHI 61gp 21gl 34-20-7 75pts 117max
6. FLA 60gp 22gl 28-20-12 68pts 112max
7. OTT 63gp 19gl 32-23-8 72pts 110max
8. WSH 62gp 20gl 31-26-5 67pts 107max
9. TOR 62gp 20gl 29-26-7 65pts 105max
10. WPG 64gp 18gl 30-26-8 68pts 104max
11. BUF 62gp 20gl 27-27-8 62pts 102max
12. TBY 61gp 21gl 27-28-6 60pts 102max
13. NYI 61gp 21gl 26-27-8 60pts 102max
14. CAR 62gp 20gl 23-26-13 59pts 99max
15. MTL 62gp 20gl 24-28-10 58pts 98max

FLA have passed OTT in the p.o.o.p. standings
WSH have passed TOR in the p.o.o.p. standings
BUF have passed TBY in the p.o.o.p. standings
CAR have passed MTL in the p.o.o.p. standings

CAR can finish as high as 1st
CAR can finish as low as 15th

CAR - 14th in East

Games - 26 February, 2012

NYR v NJE
BOS -idle-
NJE @ NYR
PIT -idle-
PHI -idle-
FLA -idle-
OTT -idle-
WSH -idle-
TOR -idle-
WPG v EDM
BUF -idle-
TBY -idle-
NYI -idle-
CAR -idle-
MTL -idle-


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DIVISION

(entire division)

7. FLA 60gp 22gl 28-20-12 68pts 112max
9. WSH 62gp 20gl 31-26-5 67pts 107max
10. WPG 64gp 18gl 30-26-8 68pts 104max
11. TBY 61gp 21gl 27-28-6 60pts 102max
15. CAR 62gp 20gl 23-26-13 59pts 99max

CAR can finish as high as 1st
CAR can finish as low as 5th

CAR - 5th in SE

Games - 26 February, 2012

FLA -idle-
WSH -idle-
WPG v EDM
TBY -idle-
CAR -idle-
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CAR currently sit in 14th, tied with NYI but losing the tiebreaker due to fewer wins (they still have the fewest wins in the East). If they fare better than NYI tonight, they will jump into 13th, and depending on what happens in other games, could feasibly be sitting a mere point behind TOR and 2 points behind TBY & BUF. The best they can manage against the teams that matter (FLA, OTT, WSH) is, respectively, 11 points down, 11 points down, and 8 points down. Of course, they lose the tiebreaker to all of those teams as well (due to having the fewest wins, they also lose the tiebreaker to every other team in the East), so let's go ahead and call it 12, 12, and 9.

On the flipside, CAR cannot be surpassed by MTL tonight, but can finish the night a mere point up, and sitting 15, 13, 10, 7, 7, 7, 6, and 2 points behind the teams above them - and, again, we'll go ahead and call those numbers 16, 14, 11, 8, 8, 8, 7, and 3 because of the tiebreaker thing.

According the sportsclubstats, CAR can still finish with a more-than-50% chance of making the playoffs if they only lose 2 more games in regulation with an additional 3 in OT/SO - but that largely depends on what happens at the top of the Southeast. Tonight's game features the two teams least-likely to win the division - but it's one that CAR really need to win if they want a legitimate shot at winning said division.

Yes, i know this is all highly unlikely at this point, but i will continue this report until even the slim mathematical hopes are silenced.

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P.O.O.P. report - 03 March, 2012

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CONFERENCE

(entire conference)

1. NYR 63gp 19gl 41-15-7 89pts 127max
2. BOS 62gp 20gl 38-21-3 79pts 119max
3. PIT 63gp 19gl 37-21-5 79pts 117max
4. PHI 63gp 19gl 35-21-7 77pts 115max
5. NJE 64gp 18gl 36-23-5 77pts 113max
6 FLA 63gp 19gl 30-21-12 72pts 110max
7. OTT 66gp 16gl 34-24-8 76pts 108max
8. WSH 64gp 18gl 32-27-5 69pts 105max
9. WPG 66gp 16gl 31-27-8 70pts 102max
10. TBY 64gp 18gl 30-28-6 66pts 102max
11. BUF 64gp 18gl 29-27-8 66pts 102max
12. TOR 64gp 18gl 29-28-7 65pts 101max
13. NYI 64gp 18gl 26-29-9 61pts 97max
14. CAR 64gp 18gl 24-27-13 61pts 97max
15. MTL 65gp 17gl 25-30-10 60pts 94max

PIT & PHI have passed NJE in the p.o.o.p. standings
WPG, TBY, & BUF have passed TOR in the p.o.o.p. standings
TBY have passed BUF in the p.o.o.p. standings

CAR can finish as high as 1st
CAR can finish as low as 15th

CAR - 14th in East

Games - 03 March, 2012

NYR -idle-
BOS v NYI
PIT @ COL
PHI -idle-
NJE -idle-
FLA v NSH
OTT -idle-
WSH -idle-
WPG -idle-
TBY @ CAR
BUF @ VAN
TOR @ MTL
NYI @ BOS
CAR v TBY
MTL v TOR


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DIVISION

(entire division)

1. FLA 63gp 19gl 30-21-12 72pts 110max
2. WSH 64gp 18gl 32-27-5 69pts 105max
3. WPG 66gp 16gl 31-27-8 70pts 102max
4. TBY 64gp 18gl 30-28-6 66pts 102max
5. CAR 64gp 18gl 24-27-13 61pts 97max

CAR can finish as high as 1st
CAR can finish as low as 5th

CAR - 5th in SE

Games - 03 March, 2012

FLA v NSH
WSH -idle-
WPG -idle-
TBY @ CAR
CAR v TBY
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17 games left, needing 27 or so points out of the possible 34. 17-0 does it, 0-0-17 doesn't. 10-0-7? 11-1-5? 12-2-3? 13-3-1? Yeah...
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17 games left, needing 27 or so points out of the possible 34. 17-0 does it, 0-0-17 doesn't. 10-0-7? 11-1-5? 12-2-3? 13-3-1? Yeah...
Caveman, you'll get a kick out of this. After Thursday night's game (that I attended with CL) we were standing outside (on a lovely warm evening) chatting before we left for our respective cars. Up walked SoCal and Mr SoCal and we were talking about the game, the loss, etc. and how perhaps it's time (or past time) to put the P-word to bed. Then CL said something like "all I can think about is how caveman will probably post - 'well, we can still make it if we go x-x-x' because he always tries to keep the faith!
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I think caveman needs to put down the crack pipe.
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I think caveman needs to put down the crack pipe.
Most years, I want to hit him with my crack pipe when he starts this thread.
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(Note -- MBR starts these threads. And I figured that by "Yeah..." it was pretty clear what I thought of the chances.)

And nccanes -- after years of LGCing there's no question that often my first thoughts on a Canes game or trade or signing is "what is everybody going to say at LGC!?"

(Though... one win down, so... 11-2-3... Hahaha...)
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Most years, I want to hit him with my crack pipe when he starts this thread.
Not caveman, MoBigRed. I must have hit the crack pipe early.
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Oh sure, blame me for starting these things. Why i oughta...

Last night helped the cause, albeit minutely. Tonight could do the same, or of course it could hurt it severely. sportsclubstats.com now has CAR needing to go 12-3-1 to have a 50% chance. "So here you go, guys - pick up 25 out of a possible 32 points over the rest of the season, and we'll flip a coin to decide if you're in or not. Anything less and you're toast." So, uh, yeah.

CAR can gain 2 points on BUF & TOR tonight, but not enough to catch either. But am i a moron to hope TOR take down PIT anyway? Sure it'll microscopically hurt CAR's playoff chances, but i wouldn't mind a few pissed off Pens fans in the world...

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P.O.O.P. report - 07 March, 2012

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CONFERENCE

(entire conference)

1. NYR 65gp 17gl 42-16-7 91pts 125max
2. PIT 65gp 17gl 39-21-5 83pts 117max
3. BOS 65gp 17gl 39-23-3 81pts 115max
4. PHI 65gp 17gl 37-21-7 81pts 115max
5. NJE 66gp 16gl 37-24-5 79pts 111max
6 FLA 65gp 17gl 31-22-12 74pts 108max
7. OTT 68gp 14gl 35-25-8 78pts 106max
8. WPG 67gp 15gl 32-27-8 72pts 102max
9. WSH 66gp 16gl 32-28-6 70pts 102max
10. TBY 66gp 16gl 31-29-6 68pts 100max
11. BUF 66gp 16gl 30-28-8 68pts 100max
12. TOR 66gp 16gl 30-29-7 67pts 99max
13. NYI 66gp 16gl 28-29-9 65pts 97max
14. CAR 66gp 16gl 25-27-14 64pts 96max
15. MTL 67gp 15gl 25-32-10 60pts 90max

PIT have passed BOS in the p.o.o.p. standings
WPG have passed WSH in the p.o.o.p. standings

CAR can finish as high as 1st
CAR can finish as low as 15th

CAR - 14th in East

Games - 07 March, 2012

NYR -idle-
PIT v TOR
BOS -idle-
PHI -idle-
NJE -idle-
FLA -idle-
OTT -idle-
WPG -idle-
WSH -idle-
TBY -idle-
BUF v CAR
TOR @ PIT
NYI -idle-
CAR @ BUF
MTL -idle-


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DIVISION

(entire division)

1 FLA 65gp 17gl 31-22-12 74pts 108max
2. WPG 67gp 15gl 32-27-8 72pts 102max
3. WSH 66gp 16gl 32-28-6 70pts 102max
4. TBY 66gp 16gl 31-29-6 68pts 100max
5. CAR 66gp 16gl 25-27-14 64pts 96max

CAR can finish as high as 1st
CAR can finish as low as 5th

CAR - 5th in SE

Games - 07 March, 2012

FLA -idle-
WPG -idle-
WSH -idle-
TBY -idle-
CAR @ BUF
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Yeah, missing the playoffs would be more tolerable if we can contribute to Buffalo missing them as well. (And that last game at Florida, boy, would love to pay them back for April 2008.)

Canes were 40-31-11 for 91 points last year and missed the playoffs by losing the last game as well, vs. Tampa. So I wouldn't mind doing Tampa's cause some injury on Thursday.

That's right. Take 'em all down with us. If I can't be optimistic, I'll be bitter.
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Caveman, I know we've both been around here awhile, so I'm hoping you "got" the spirit and the context behind my post yesterday. I share your enthusiasm, not quite as unbridled, but close.
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Yeah, no worries! But just for the record, I don't actually think any of this will happen. (I mean, I'm not actually crazy!) Doesn't stop me wanting it to happen, though. (Especially that part about beating Florida in Florida for the last game of the year to crush their hopes...)
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